A terrorist network is as capable of having plants, moles or spys as a conventional state power - Why Not? They would give OBL or KSM advanced notice of an upcoming drill so the date could be used - the better question is - why was there no search to apprehend such an inside mole - it is a total possibility that this was how the attacks were able to be successful - comments?
1)Fetzer claims the WTC was brought down by a DEATH RAY religionandmorality net/multimedia/Buenos-Aires/Buenos-Aires.html 2)Claims Senator Wellstone's plane crash was a conspiracy. youtube com/w/?v=vyNzys-KutA 3) Claims the moon landing was a hoax moonmovie com 4) Claims JFK was victim of conspiracy Google "Reasoning about Assassinations" Fetzer sees conspiracy in all and has no proof Google "Thinking about 'Conspiracy Theories': 9/11 and JFK Thanks for asking!
Why is there comments telling me about the impossibility of the way the Towers fell? I'm not saying the official story is true!
So stop ridiculing me because I'm on the same side you fucking JERKS!! Just because I don't consider myself a "No planer" doesn't mean I buy into the offical story! I try and make the point instead of dividing the movement fighting about Planes and no Planes to concentrate on what we can prove which is the impossibility of the way the Towers fell crashed into dust
why can we not share ideas freely without jumping to conclusions and ridicule? There is an important phase where "I do not know and want to know" is crucial and needs to be carefully cultivated to lead to the greatest knowledge that can be shared by all
I am moving allenmart and FarmfirlJD over to the "unmet Needs" department of PaulaGloria com because of the volume of the same info and lots of labels...this is a topic that requires empathy and respect
Ten stories per second? 3 steel framed buildings fall at free fall speed? imposable! the steel would have given resistance anything offered that says they can is pure fantasy.Go to the libray and study falling bodies if you skiped that in the sixth grade.
AiresQX4 amazing how you people that attack those that differ with the official story by calling them nuts, but offer no logical evidence for why these building fell at free fall speed, and the many other anomalies that happened that day. Id say your that one thats delusional because that laws of physics weren't suspended by the goats herders on 911.
Hey HaidDeSalaami, Have you been able to see some of the 84 Pentagon videos?? Because I haven't and neither has any other American citizens!! HHHMMMM!! I wonder why they refuse to release the footage 7 years later? What is there to hide?? Nothing right?
Fetzer has been promising his adoring fans for years that he's going to get a scientific paper published in an academic journal, proving all this conspiracy horseshit.
Still waiting, Jimmy-boy. The editors of Scientific American, Nature, and the Journal of Engineering Mechanics are just DYING to go over your Deep Thoughts and scientific insights.
Maybe he's just too busy working on his other theory about how reverse-engineered weapons from Area 51 were used to collapse the WTC.
when I get comments like this from HaidDeSalaami it makes me think that maybe area 51 IS worth looking into...ha-ha stay with the open mind and open heart to obvious tragic expressions of unmet needs....
why do you still believe anything your government says after all the weird shit they have been doing over the last 50 or 60 years. IT IS PROVEN....911 was an inside job!!!!
And it comes from some Froggie fruit who believes in hijacked UFO technology ... and that Ron Paul, the second-emptiest suit on the planet, has a chance in hell of winning an election.
Keep smokin' that Konspiracy Krack, boy. When they say it rots the brain cells, it's probably just those government lies again.
that people that believe no planes hit the trade center and pentagon should be in padded cells watched over by the men in white coats? Please elaborate how everyone that was two planes erupt into a fireball were a figment of 300000000 imaginations.
James Fetzer is a CIA operative put forward by Bush&Cheney in order to discredit those who want the truth about 911. The same guy played "Jerry Falwell" for years, and had to "die" when the whole Fetzer thing took off. Those are recycled Falwell jowls you're looking at people! Wake the f up!!!
The "passengers" are being held in Gitmo, though some, I'm told, have been spotted in Dallas hunting for snipes on the grassy knoll with Elvis and Jim Morrison. But of course you won't here THAT on your braindead media channels. When are people going to wake up?
I heard that they were all executed by jim files who was executed by black dog man who was executed by badgeman...... wait i think it was malcom wallace.....damn it i forgot the chain
JFK was assassinated because NASA knew it couldn't land on the moon because of the alien artifacts there. As a result, disgruntled government employees faked the 9/11 attacks in part to destroy the secret evidence stored in the Pentagon. Of course, the Jews are behind all of this because ... well, they're behind everything, along with their Masonic & Illuminati friends in the Trilateral Commission and the CFR. Of course, it's all Bush's fault somehow.
And by the way, those planes weren't actually flying: 300 tons, in the air, _flying_, c'mon! Who's kidding whom? And where did the passengers go? disappeared? into thin air? How many times have you seen people just disappear?
the twin towers were built to withstand any impact from a plane, even multiple impacts... that is damning evidence right there, and it comes straight from the architects and engineers who designed the towers.
No they were not! They were built to withstand an impanct from a comercial jet liner, but the design parameters were a jet, lost in fog, low on fuel and going as slow as possible. NO comparison to a fully loaded jet going full speed.
the impact of a full speed jet liner is no different than the swaying you feel from strong new york winds, and the towers were built to withstand those just like jet lines crashes. so basically, the speed it was going didnt matter.
Inertia is directly related to speed and everything has a breaking point. So your statement pretty much rules you out as an "Expert". But so does saying a strong wind gust has the same damaging effect as a 100 ton aluminum dart moving at 500mph. Where do you even get an idea like that?
"The faster the jet goes, the more energy is sent out of the other side of the building rather than being absorbed by it"
Typical of the bonehead concepts swallowed by the truther goons.
Not hard to tell that this idiot never took a physics course in his entire life, and probably slept through 6th-grade science class.
By this theory, you might as well shoot a deer with a .32 short as a .308 magnum load, since all the extra energy is going to come out the other side .....
Because jets fly really slow in fog because they don't want to run a stop sign? The fireball caused on impact was the jetfuel in the tanks exploding, don't believe the nonsense about the fuel burning slowly.
My conclusion( conjecture only) is that Bush did not order these attacks,but his administration allowed it to happen.But why did they allow these attacks?They had foreknowledge of Al Qaeda's plots. "
right idea. follow the money trail. read gore vidal's Dreaming War.
ok first of all, dont try and insult me you stupid hippie mother fucker... ur no expert here either, and i never claimed i was one. i have done my research on how the towers were built and they were built flexibly to withstand the high wind gusts in the cold ny winters. since the towers were made out of steel, its resiliant, and therefore it doesnt matter what hits it, its going to sway the same amount. if you dont believe that then research urself, dont criticize me and make no point of ur own.
oh and btw nice video of o'reilly being the stupid fucking bigot he is and trying to silence fetzer. as far as i know, billy should be on his hands and knees sucking dick because he cant prove any point he makes. hes a stupid ignorant piece of shit like yourself prolly.
He is a cocksucking loufa licker, but I love how he deals with phony ass Fetzer. 10 bucks says Fetzer doesn't beleive 9-11 was a conspiracy. He's just getting air time out of it, just like he did with the moon landing and JFK. Oh and Fox pays every guest to be on the show so thats why I personaly feel that way about Fetzer and his copy cat/gay lover Alex Jones who is a johny come lately when compared to Fetzer.
well i dont like how he deals with fetzer or any of his guests he doesnt agree with. did you see what he did to jeremy glick? telling him to shut up and shit, very unprofessional. and trust me, fetzer believes in the CTs, he has been researching it like a dog, and he knows wtf hes talking about. if you are so confident about him not believing it then why only 10 bucks? lol anyway, whatever, him and alex jones are cool, and they brush off pricks like o'reilly.
I did see that! Almost forgot about that, what dick move. You may be right about Fetzer and Jones but if they are convinced of a conspiracy covering up government plans on 9-11, and JFK, and the moon landing than that is scarier than knowing its bull shit and just making some coin off of other peoples paranoia. And thats why only 10 bucks. Science almost always ends up being right tho so time will, eventually, tell.
yea, i mean i didnt believe in the CTs when i first heard them. i def thot these guys were fucking crazy loons, but you eventually have to think about what they say regardless of evidence. i dont necessarily 100 percent agree with them, but i just consider what they say. as far as other events like jfk and whatnot, those are very interesting too. idk, something has to be done in this country with the secrecy the govt gives us. just give us the full story, dont you think so? we deserve that much.
i dont think there is anything unlawful about asking questions and wanting to know everything that happened that day. maybe we who werent directly involved with 9/11 dont, but at least the victims families deserve something so they can put their loved ones to rest. its been 6 years already.
It's great to ask questions and seek out the truth if something seems fishy, but shutting out scientific explanations doesn't do anything for the families. All of the questions have been answered using actual science. Over the last six years the conspirists have been debunked on every theory, but they never give in. Have you seen screw loose change yet? Harsh name but a good rebuttal.
Thats a lot like saying you have to consider the Earth centered universe theory despite the evidence, overwhelming proof is total proof at some point.
"the secrecy the govt gives us. just give us the full story, dont you think so? we deserve that much"
Who says?
And who the fuck is this "we," asshole? Ya got a mouse in your pocket?
And I suppose your lame ass thinks we should send memos of everything we do, or plan to do, to bin Laden and that dwarf Ahmadickisdead, or whatever that Iranian fuck's name is.
'Cuz if we tell you & every other asshole in the U.S., we might as well put it on the front page of Al Jizz-bag in Damascus.
If you don't want to be criticized then don't say things that are as retarded as "steel is resiliant, so no matter what hits it it will sway the same amount." What about a half mile wide meteor? will it still sway the same amount or is that a statement worthy of criticism?
My conclusion( conjecture only) is that Bush did not order these attacks,but his administration allowed it to happen.But why did they allow these attacks?They had foreknowledge of Al Qaeda's plots.
he put on a conference in Wisconsin for which I will always thank him. How about provoking THOUGHT? Justice? Check out my work with Dyandria...punishment NEVER works. Connections of empathy always and the first step is OBSERVATION not judgment.
Rick Siegel worked for the CIA connected Law Firm (Brown and Wood) by "moving their database" out of their WTC office JUST BEFORE 911. Their 'multiple floor' office is where the "plane" hole was opened up with explosives! Siegel "just happened" to be set up to film 911 that morning also. His resulting movie 911Eyewitness set the BOGUS CD paradigm and created the 911 movement. w w w(.)putfile(.)com/pic(.)php?img=6097839
The entire 911 Movement is a COINTELPRO PSYOP of linked LIMITED HANGOUTS. Contrived infighting between factions is used to reconsolidate the 911Truth NGOs pushing controlled demo disinformation. Fetzer works 'with' Steven Jones. Fetzer also works with Rick Siegel, who is using Nico Haupt to discredit NPT and DEWT, by making it look ridiculous. They really want to keep the perp's use of DEW and NPT a secret through disinfo submersion.
bumpy111, me? I am demanding oil? LOL... I don't care about oil. I can live very good wihtout it, can you? if you can't then it is you! yes YOU that is demanding oil.
Why did they need to use jets? If the theory was that it was an inside job, why not simply blow up the building and blame it on the terrorists? They attempted in once, they could just as easily have said they simply tried again and succeeded. There is no reason to use the Jets. Also, why have 4 jets when you only needed 2? Why attack the Pentagon and crash in PA? Lastly, how did they convince the hyjackers to kill themselves? What was in it for them?
Actually, I would argue bombs would have been better. It shows much more sophistication and cunning. Using jets allowed the Gov't to demonstrate their compenency to the people every time you walk in the airport, and is a constant reminder of why we are at war.
bumpy111, you are wrong to say just bombs would have been better, because they would not have been able to take over the airports if planes had not been used, no planes were the way to go for these NWO sickos.
If you have a solid case, you should have no problem handling O'reilly, Hannity, Colmbs, or North. I personally felt North asked reasonable and rational questions.
Also, his comments about the discussion between Silverman and the NYFD implicates the NYFD as co-conspirators. Do you really want to go down that road of implicating the heroes of 911 in your baseless conspiracy theory?
the Fireman are now the ones most wanting to really understand what happened as they are now dying horrific heaths having been told the air was safe to breath. More are dying young deaths after 9/11 then during. They also don't want to loose their jobs as many climate scientists didn't when Al Gore fired any not pro man made global warming
Actually the Firefighter what was a whistle-blower would have one heck of a book deal. No matter how you spin this one, if you follow your approach you are not only making the NYFD complicit in the event, they are also complicit in the cover-up. Do you really want to use an argument that makes the NYC heroes villains? That is a question you must ask yourself. First what is the benefit? Bush is gone in another year, but the damage done if you are wrong will last a life time.
What are they saying? That they know the buildings were planned and so they still sent their firends into them knowing the outcome? If that is the case, they are criminals. Are they admitting to their role in the conspiracy? If they knew something and didn't say, they are just as guilty. Also, why talk now when Bush is still in office? ISn't that putting their lives at risk? Have any "dissapeared?"
How much time did CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC or MSNBC give Dr. Fetzer to make his case? I seriously doubt that any major news network would give Dr Fetzer as much time as Fox News does. In fact I just searched YouTube and Fox appears to be the only news network giving him an audience, and they did so multiple times. You should be thanking Fox, not demonizing them. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
Search "building collapse" on youtube to watch controlled demolitions. There are very clear signals, first of all are the tell tale synchronized explosions. Also, the explosions and puffs of smoke occur BEFORE the collapse, not after is which is what you see with bldg 7. One is the result of explosions, one is the result of compressed air being released after a floor collapses.
Watch a video of an earthquake building collapse, it to looks like a controled demolition. The reason for this is gravity pulls down, it take more energy to deflect it path downward. The path of least resistance is straight down. That is basis physics 101.
Building 7 is shown falling from only one side, and does not show the damage done to the side facing the WTC. They have audio of the fire dept saying the fire is out of control, and it has very heavy equiptment on the roof. Fire combined with shaking and debris damage would easily bring down a building. Buildings fall from earthquakes all the time. This building withstood an earthquake, fire and debris shock.
there was no damage done to the side facing the WTC, it was several blocks away if I am not mistaken. lets stay on this one.. anyone out there know about this?
I just watched a video and read a report that totally contradicts that. 1) we know it was burning 2) we know it experienced multiple huge earthquake like shocks 3) falling debris did a lot of damage 4) just look at the before image, the building was terribly top heavy. Look at all the equipment on the roof, and look where it folds. Right at the edge of the air conditioner. Coincidence? I doubt it.
Judy Wood makes several physical analyses for the unreality of a pancaking collapse. Apparently the buildings collapsed as if it were free falling through air, or as if there was no internal resistance to the overall collapse. There was also an overall pulverization of the outer structure that seem more than highly unlikely. In that treatment, she did not say why the steel center strucure disappeared simutaneously with the overall collapse.
This was a very specialized demolition in the tall buildings, probably because they were so tall. Probably that is why there was so much pulverization. Some group of people wanted to get rid of them, and they also figured they could use it to invade Iraq and appropriate the oil. Pancaking collape is mostly out of the question as the experts seem to see it.
I'm very interested in Dr. Wood's research and hate the BS she and Fetz are getting. None of it sounds 'kooky' to me, not even the anti-matter suggestions.
What appears to have happened in real life is a phenomenon similar to somebody touching another person and making their bones disintegrate and their soft tissue dissolve, while their body splashes into a kind of heap as it lands unrecognizably in a 20 gallon bucket. All this would have to occur from the top down an accelerate at the rate of gravity. i am pretty sure this must have been accomplished by evil magic. lol
thanks you...see my comment above about a childhood friend who now teaches astrophysics....they use the term all the time because these beams are a reality
Help me understand this theory in terms of motive. What was the motive of destroying the WTC, Pentagon and some field in PA? Who gained? My understading was that the WTC had a pretty high occupancy rate. I can't imagine the total loss of revenues that must have occured are on going, not to mention lives lost and ruined. Who gained?
bumpy111, who gained? Larry Silverstein for one, he gained 7 billion dollars. Bush administration gained, they got to go into Iraq that had nothing to do with 9/11 and they have been killing children ever since. Fox news has gained, their ratings went up. The NWO has gained, they are taking away your freedoms.
I spoke to a childhood friend who now teaches astrophysics at a state college. He said that it is common, almost daily talk to speak of directed energy beams. this is a sober professor..what does that have to do with America being bankrupt. It is science. Judy wood is a professor of civil engineering
I have no doubt about the existence of Lasers. In fact they are used in surgery on a daily basis. The military is experimenting with them as weapons today.If is fact they were used on the WTC, you would have easly seen them in the smoke. First it takes a very long time for a lazer to work, second it would have needed to pass through smoke and become visable. They have hours and hours of eye witnesses and film, no not one iota of evidence of a laser being used.
It would be a complete and total shame to lose records due to a fire or explosion. There is a thing called backup that is universally used and is also a simple matter given the electronic tools available to do that. If these were important documents they should have been multiply backed up.
A terrorist network is as capable of having plants, moles or spys as a conventional state power - Why Not? They would give OBL or KSM advanced notice of an upcoming drill so the date could be used - the better question is - why was there no search to apprehend such an inside mole - it is a total possibility that this was how the attacks were able to be successful - comments?
Libertymuser 2 years ago
Let's see 1)Fetzer claims the WTC was brought down by a DEATH RAY
2)Claims Senator Wellstone's plane crash was a conspiracy.
3) Claims the moon landing was a hoax
4) Claims JFK was victim of conspriracy
Fetzer sees conspiracy in all and has no proof
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
so you believe:
1) WTC came down with an airplane bumping into it
2) Senator Wellstone got into an unlucky airplane just when he was going to introduce critical legistation that no one else had the guts to do
3) we landed on the moon in 1969 and just got too busy to go back and do anything about it
4) JFK was loved by everyone and had no enemies
paulagloria 2 years ago 5
1. a 150 ton plane hitting a building with the kinetic energy at 590 MPH is not a "bump"
2. Yes
3 We landed multiple times
4.All presidents have enemies
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
paulagloria 2 years ago
James Fetzer is a fucking idiot. He can't even get his so called evidence published in the New York Times. They fucking hated bush's guts.
AmericasFan 2 years ago
@AmericasFan
what would Bush know about all this...the TV Fakery, the advanced weaponry, the massive deception
paulagloria 2 years ago
Why is there comments telling me about the impossibility of the way the Towers fell? I'm not saying the official story is true!
So stop ridiculing me because I'm on the same side you fucking JERKS!! Just because I don't consider myself a "No planer" doesn't mean I buy into the offical story! I try and make the point instead of dividing the movement fighting about Planes and no Planes to concentrate on what we can prove which is the impossibility of the way the Towers fell crashed into dust
AiresQX4 3 years ago 3
why can we not share ideas freely without jumping to conclusions and ridicule? There is an important phase where "I do not know and want to know" is crucial and needs to be carefully cultivated to lead to the greatest knowledge that can be shared by all
paulagloria 3 years ago
And one may ask why are there so many WTC videos?
brokencasket 3 years ago
so much dis-info about 911 and most is intended by the Neo con pawns...keep researching 911 and what's coming next.
Don't be fooled by those already in power for they seek to deceive and continue in power.
brokencasket 3 years ago
Tankmonster has been moved to the "Unmet Needs" department of PaulaGloria com
paulagloria 3 years ago
I am moving allenmart and FarmfirlJD over to the "unmet Needs" department of PaulaGloria com because of the volume of the same info and lots of labels...this is a topic that requires empathy and respect
paulagloria 3 years ago
What the government is saying happened to the towers that day only happens on cartoons.
allenmart 3 years ago
Ten stories per second? 3 steel framed buildings fall at free fall speed? imposable! the steel would have given resistance anything offered that says they can is pure fantasy.Go to the libray and study falling bodies if you skiped that in the sixth grade.
allenmart 3 years ago
not to mention an airplane that takes 11 frames to go through air and then also 11 frames to go through a building (WTC II)
WOWie!
/watch?v=Yd60coeZz4A&feature=email
(put youtube com before)
It's called "Killtown : Air vs Skyscraper"
tell me what you think
paulagloria 3 years ago
AiresQX4 amazing how you people that attack those that differ with the official story by calling them nuts, but offer no logical evidence for why these building fell at free fall speed, and the many other anomalies that happened that day. Id say your that one thats delusional because that laws of physics weren't suspended by the goats herders on 911.
allenmart 3 years ago
Hey HaidDeSalaami, Have you been able to see some of the 84 Pentagon videos?? Because I haven't and neither has any other American citizens!! HHHMMMM!! I wonder why they refuse to release the footage 7 years later? What is there to hide?? Nothing right?
AiresQX4 3 years ago
Fetzer has been promising his adoring fans for years that he's going to get a scientific paper published in an academic journal, proving all this conspiracy horseshit.
Still waiting, Jimmy-boy. The editors of Scientific American, Nature, and the Journal of Engineering Mechanics are just DYING to go over your Deep Thoughts and scientific insights.
Maybe he's just too busy working on his other theory about how reverse-engineered weapons from Area 51 were used to collapse the WTC.
Freakin' clown
HaidDeSalaami 3 years ago
when I get comments like this from HaidDeSalaami it makes me think that maybe area 51 IS worth looking into...ha-ha stay with the open mind and open heart to obvious tragic expressions of unmet needs....
paulagloria 3 years ago
I'd rather hear Fetzer babble about how the moon landing was faked by NASA, or how Lee Harvey Oswald's twin was one of the shooters.
Or how the satellite-based death-rays brought down the Twin Towers, though he seems a bit vague about details of these marvelous machines.
Way off in Cloud Cuckoo-land, whoring what's left of his academic reputation (not much).
HughGQuipment 3 years ago
why do you still believe anything your government says after all the weird shit they have been doing over the last 50 or 60 years. IT IS PROVEN....911 was an inside job!!!!
jeffsst 3 years ago
Hahahahahahaha
And it comes from some Froggie fruit who believes in hijacked UFO technology ... and that Ron Paul, the second-emptiest suit on the planet, has a chance in hell of winning an election.
Keep smokin' that Konspiracy Krack, boy. When they say it rots the brain cells, it's probably just those government lies again.
blueshark69 3 years ago
"IT IS PROVEN....911 was an inside job!!!!"
Yeah, but you're such a gullible fuck you believe in UFOs ... so how the fuck would you know your dick from a doorknob?
HaidDeSalaami 3 years ago 4
If you recieve your news from truffers you are the least informed
Obelisk2290 4 years ago
it's true I've learned more from the no-planers lately
paulagloria 4 years ago
that people that believe no planes hit the trade center and pentagon should be in padded cells watched over by the men in white coats? Please elaborate how everyone that was two planes erupt into a fireball were a figment of 300000000 imaginations.
Obelisk2290 4 years ago
James Fetzer is a CIA operative put forward by Bush&Cheney in order to discredit those who want the truth about 911. The same guy played "Jerry Falwell" for years, and had to "die" when the whole Fetzer thing took off. Those are recycled Falwell jowls you're looking at people! Wake the f up!!!
ronashkar 4 years ago
take a look at my latest postings on the international criminal syndicate and get back with me....
paulagloria 4 years ago
The "passengers" are being held in Gitmo, though some, I'm told, have been spotted in Dallas hunting for snipes on the grassy knoll with Elvis and Jim Morrison. But of course you won't here THAT on your braindead media channels. When are people going to wake up?
ronashkar 4 years ago
I heard that they were all executed by jim files who was executed by black dog man who was executed by badgeman...... wait i think it was malcom wallace.....damn it i forgot the chain
Obelisk2290 4 years ago
"damn it i forgot the chain"
Don't forget, the Jews and the Freemasons are the ones really behind all these plots.
Fetzer & his Konspiracy Kommandos will protect us, for sure.
HughGQuipment 3 years ago
Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory:
JFK was assassinated because NASA knew it couldn't land on the moon because of the alien artifacts there. As a result, disgruntled government employees faked the 9/11 attacks in part to destroy the secret evidence stored in the Pentagon. Of course, the Jews are behind all of this because ... well, they're behind everything, along with their Masonic & Illuminati friends in the Trilateral Commission and the CFR. Of course, it's all Bush's fault somehow.
blueshark69 3 years ago
This Molly woman seems clueless about 911. Read up.
Ewilds 4 years ago
Molly doesn't mind that, she feels that she can represent the average regular media fed person
paulagloria 4 years ago
And by the way, those planes weren't actually flying: 300 tons, in the air, _flying_, c'mon! Who's kidding whom? And where did the passengers go? disappeared? into thin air? How many times have you seen people just disappear?
ronashkar 4 years ago
Not one, not two, but three high rise towers collapsed symmetrically in one day- do you believe in magic!
Turtleproof 4 years ago 3
"three high rise towers collapsed symmetrically in one day- do you believe in magic!"
No. Do you believe in jumbo jets?
Fucking adolescent moron.
blueshark69 3 years ago 6
Jumbo jets are pretty tiny in comparison to skyscrapers. Was the firball the result of jetfuel exploding on impact, or just plain magic, too?
Did a "jumbo jet" hit Tower 7?
Turtleproof 3 years ago
People rarely talk about the gold. What's the latest research? Original reports said it belonged to Scotia Bank, I believe.
Would be nice to see Nico on H+C. Expose these bastards.
Capeech 4 years ago 2
Nico Jones?
Obelisk2290 4 years ago
Thanks Jim Fetzer for what you have done. People need to WAKE UP!!!
swaneeusa3 4 years ago 4
the twin towers were built to withstand any impact from a plane, even multiple impacts... that is damning evidence right there, and it comes straight from the architects and engineers who designed the towers.
lebroniznumba1 4 years ago
I agree
paulagloria 4 years ago
No they were not! They were built to withstand an impanct from a comercial jet liner, but the design parameters were a jet, lost in fog, low on fuel and going as slow as possible. NO comparison to a fully loaded jet going full speed.
somedirtyhippie 4 years ago
the impact of a full speed jet liner is no different than the swaying you feel from strong new york winds, and the towers were built to withstand those just like jet lines crashes. so basically, the speed it was going didnt matter.
lebroniznumba1 4 years ago
Inertia is directly related to speed and everything has a breaking point. So your statement pretty much rules you out as an "Expert". But so does saying a strong wind gust has the same damaging effect as a 100 ton aluminum dart moving at 500mph. Where do you even get an idea like that?
somedirtyhippie 4 years ago
Speaking of inertia, how much inertia does a skyscraper have? At least 1,000 times more than a jet.
The faster the jet goes, the more energy is sent out of the other side of the building rather than being absorbed by it.
Turtleproof 3 years ago
"The faster the jet goes, the more energy is sent out of the other side of the building rather than being absorbed by it"
Typical of the bonehead concepts swallowed by the truther goons.
Not hard to tell that this idiot never took a physics course in his entire life, and probably slept through 6th-grade science class.
By this theory, you might as well shoot a deer with a .32 short as a .308 magnum load, since all the extra energy is going to come out the other side .....
Not.
TankMonster105 3 years ago 3
Your full of shit from MIT
allenmart 3 years ago
Because jets fly really slow in fog because they don't want to run a stop sign? The fireball caused on impact was the jetfuel in the tanks exploding, don't believe the nonsense about the fuel burning slowly.
Turtleproof 3 years ago
Molly is Kinda hot in a way
ishredu 4 years ago
" ignitionrod (4 hours ago) Marked as spam
My conclusion( conjecture only) is that Bush did not order these attacks,but his administration allowed it to happen.But why did they allow these attacks?They had foreknowledge of Al Qaeda's plots. "
right idea. follow the money trail. read gore vidal's Dreaming War.
lordofendsville 4 years ago
Way to ride the fence. Too bad that theory doesn't make sence. Read green eggs and ham.
somedirtyhippie 4 years ago
ok first of all, dont try and insult me you stupid hippie mother fucker... ur no expert here either, and i never claimed i was one. i have done my research on how the towers were built and they were built flexibly to withstand the high wind gusts in the cold ny winters. since the towers were made out of steel, its resiliant, and therefore it doesnt matter what hits it, its going to sway the same amount. if you dont believe that then research urself, dont criticize me and make no point of ur own.
lebroniznumba1 4 years ago
oh and btw nice video of o'reilly being the stupid fucking bigot he is and trying to silence fetzer. as far as i know, billy should be on his hands and knees sucking dick because he cant prove any point he makes. hes a stupid ignorant piece of shit like yourself prolly.
lebroniznumba1 4 years ago
He is a cocksucking loufa licker, but I love how he deals with phony ass Fetzer. 10 bucks says Fetzer doesn't beleive 9-11 was a conspiracy. He's just getting air time out of it, just like he did with the moon landing and JFK. Oh and Fox pays every guest to be on the show so thats why I personaly feel that way about Fetzer and his copy cat/gay lover Alex Jones who is a johny come lately when compared to Fetzer.
somedirtyhippie 4 years ago
well i dont like how he deals with fetzer or any of his guests he doesnt agree with. did you see what he did to jeremy glick? telling him to shut up and shit, very unprofessional. and trust me, fetzer believes in the CTs, he has been researching it like a dog, and he knows wtf hes talking about. if you are so confident about him not believing it then why only 10 bucks? lol anyway, whatever, him and alex jones are cool, and they brush off pricks like o'reilly.
lebroniznumba1 4 years ago
I did see that! Almost forgot about that, what dick move. You may be right about Fetzer and Jones but if they are convinced of a conspiracy covering up government plans on 9-11, and JFK, and the moon landing than that is scarier than knowing its bull shit and just making some coin off of other peoples paranoia. And thats why only 10 bucks. Science almost always ends up being right tho so time will, eventually, tell.
somedirtyhippie 4 years ago
yea, i mean i didnt believe in the CTs when i first heard them. i def thot these guys were fucking crazy loons, but you eventually have to think about what they say regardless of evidence. i dont necessarily 100 percent agree with them, but i just consider what they say. as far as other events like jfk and whatnot, those are very interesting too. idk, something has to be done in this country with the secrecy the govt gives us. just give us the full story, dont you think so? we deserve that much.
lebroniznumba1 4 years ago
i dont think there is anything unlawful about asking questions and wanting to know everything that happened that day. maybe we who werent directly involved with 9/11 dont, but at least the victims families deserve something so they can put their loved ones to rest. its been 6 years already.
lebroniznumba1 4 years ago
It's great to ask questions and seek out the truth if something seems fishy, but shutting out scientific explanations doesn't do anything for the families. All of the questions have been answered using actual science. Over the last six years the conspirists have been debunked on every theory, but they never give in. Have you seen screw loose change yet? Harsh name but a good rebuttal.
somedirtyhippie 4 years ago
Thats a lot like saying you have to consider the Earth centered universe theory despite the evidence, overwhelming proof is total proof at some point.
somedirtyhippie 4 years ago
"the secrecy the govt gives us. just give us the full story, dont you think so? we deserve that much"
Who says?
And who the fuck is this "we," asshole? Ya got a mouse in your pocket?
And I suppose your lame ass thinks we should send memos of everything we do, or plan to do, to bin Laden and that dwarf Ahmadickisdead, or whatever that Iranian fuck's name is.
'Cuz if we tell you & every other asshole in the U.S., we might as well put it on the front page of Al Jizz-bag in Damascus.
ReemYakrevice 3 years ago 4
If you don't want to be criticized then don't say things that are as retarded as "steel is resiliant, so no matter what hits it it will sway the same amount." What about a half mile wide meteor? will it still sway the same amount or is that a statement worthy of criticism?
somedirtyhippie 4 years ago
My conclusion( conjecture only) is that Bush did not order these attacks,but his administration allowed it to happen.But why did they allow these attacks?They had foreknowledge of Al Qaeda's plots.
ignitionrod 4 years ago
Fetzer is a agent provocateur! All the scholars moved to a new group - Scholars for truth and JUSTICE.
bones555a 4 years ago
he put on a conference in Wisconsin for which I will always thank him. How about provoking THOUGHT? Justice? Check out my work with Dyandria...punishment NEVER works. Connections of empathy always and the first step is OBSERVATION not judgment.
paulagloria 4 years ago
Rick Siegel worked for the CIA connected Law Firm (Brown and Wood) by "moving their database" out of their WTC office JUST BEFORE 911. Their 'multiple floor' office is where the "plane" hole was opened up with explosives! Siegel "just happened" to be set up to film 911 that morning also. His resulting movie 911Eyewitness set the BOGUS CD paradigm and created the 911 movement. w w w(.)putfile(.)com/pic(.)php?img=6097839
Natashathompson 4 years ago
The entire 911 Movement is a COINTELPRO PSYOP of linked LIMITED HANGOUTS. Contrived infighting between factions is used to reconsolidate the 911Truth NGOs pushing controlled demo disinformation. Fetzer works 'with' Steven Jones. Fetzer also works with Rick Siegel, who is using Nico Haupt to discredit NPT and DEWT, by making it look ridiculous. They really want to keep the perp's use of DEW and NPT a secret through disinfo submersion.
Natashathompson 4 years ago
what is NPT and DEWT?
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muhaSSCC 4 years ago
hannity and colmes are bush's wankers! hitler fucks fucking up the world! oil thirsty fucks!
AMERSIDD 4 years ago
I believe it is you that is maintaining the demand for oil, they are only doing their best to make sure you don't have to ride a horse to work.
bumpy111 4 years ago
bumpy111, me? I am demanding oil? LOL... I don't care about oil. I can live very good wihtout it, can you? if you can't then it is you! yes YOU that is demanding oil.
sunwestmovies 4 years ago
bumpy111, can you ride a bike? a horse? Do you need oil? I think it's you that are the oil whore.
sunwestmovies 4 years ago
Why did they need to use jets? If the theory was that it was an inside job, why not simply blow up the building and blame it on the terrorists? They attempted in once, they could just as easily have said they simply tried again and succeeded. There is no reason to use the Jets. Also, why have 4 jets when you only needed 2? Why attack the Pentagon and crash in PA? Lastly, how did they convince the hyjackers to kill themselves? What was in it for them?
bumpy111 4 years ago
Why use jets? it made it more convincing, that's why. The hijackers were mind-controlled.
sunwestmovies 4 years ago
Actually, I would argue bombs would have been better. It shows much more sophistication and cunning. Using jets allowed the Gov't to demonstrate their compenency to the people every time you walk in the airport, and is a constant reminder of why we are at war.
bumpy111 4 years ago
bumpy111, you are wrong to say just bombs would have been better, because they would not have been able to take over the airports if planes had not been used, no planes were the way to go for these NWO sickos.
sunwestmovies 4 years ago
If you have a solid case, you should have no problem handling O'reilly, Hannity, Colmbs, or North. I personally felt North asked reasonable and rational questions.
Also, his comments about the discussion between Silverman and the NYFD implicates the NYFD as co-conspirators. Do you really want to go down that road of implicating the heroes of 911 in your baseless conspiracy theory?
bumpy111 4 years ago
the Fireman are now the ones most wanting to really understand what happened as they are now dying horrific heaths having been told the air was safe to breath. More are dying young deaths after 9/11 then during. They also don't want to loose their jobs as many climate scientists didn't when Al Gore fired any not pro man made global warming
paulagloria 4 years ago
Actually the Firefighter what was a whistle-blower would have one heck of a book deal. No matter how you spin this one, if you follow your approach you are not only making the NYFD complicit in the event, they are also complicit in the cover-up. Do you really want to use an argument that makes the NYC heroes villains? That is a question you must ask yourself. First what is the benefit? Bush is gone in another year, but the damage done if you are wrong will last a life time.
bumpy111 4 years ago
The firefighters are coming out slowly now and are 9/11 truthers.
sunwestmovies 4 years ago
What are they saying? That they know the buildings were planned and so they still sent their firends into them knowing the outcome? If that is the case, they are criminals. Are they admitting to their role in the conspiracy? If they knew something and didn't say, they are just as guilty. Also, why talk now when Bush is still in office? ISn't that putting their lives at risk? Have any "dissapeared?"
bumpy111 4 years ago
bumpy111, you need to learn how to read, I said the firefighters are coming out now, because they are learningthe truth that this is a gov cover job.
sunwestmovies 4 years ago
How much time did CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC or MSNBC give Dr. Fetzer to make his case? I seriously doubt that any major news network would give Dr Fetzer as much time as Fox News does. In fact I just searched YouTube and Fox appears to be the only news network giving him an audience, and they did so multiple times. You should be thanking Fox, not demonizing them. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
bumpy111 4 years ago
how much time do these esteems stations give to the real cause of global warming, which to me is equally important?
paulagloria 4 years ago
Not following you on this one.
bumpy111 4 years ago
Search "building collapse" on youtube to watch controlled demolitions. There are very clear signals, first of all are the tell tale synchronized explosions. Also, the explosions and puffs of smoke occur BEFORE the collapse, not after is which is what you see with bldg 7. One is the result of explosions, one is the result of compressed air being released after a floor collapses.
bumpy111 4 years ago
that's what I love about you, MY Internet Skeptic...you stay with the science. Just keep at it and stay open to more thoughts on this
paulagloria 4 years ago
Will do, I'll ask the questions others won't.
bumpy111 4 years ago
Watch a video of an earthquake building collapse, it to looks like a controled demolition. The reason for this is gravity pulls down, it take more energy to deflect it path downward. The path of least resistance is straight down. That is basis physics 101.
bumpy111 4 years ago
Building 7 is shown falling from only one side, and does not show the damage done to the side facing the WTC. They have audio of the fire dept saying the fire is out of control, and it has very heavy equiptment on the roof. Fire combined with shaking and debris damage would easily bring down a building. Buildings fall from earthquakes all the time. This building withstood an earthquake, fire and debris shock.
bumpy111 4 years ago
there was no damage done to the side facing the WTC, it was several blocks away if I am not mistaken. lets stay on this one.. anyone out there know about this?
paulagloria 4 years ago
I just watched a video and read a report that totally contradicts that. 1) we know it was burning 2) we know it experienced multiple huge earthquake like shocks 3) falling debris did a lot of damage 4) just look at the before image, the building was terribly top heavy. Look at all the equipment on the roof, and look where it folds. Right at the edge of the air conditioner. Coincidence? I doubt it.
bumpy111 4 years ago
Fetzer's laugh @ the End is Scary.......O_o
Question1981 4 years ago
@mercy1313 : thanks for posting the actual event with Oliver North on Fox TV and hope everyone sees it along with Jim's comments on the experience!
paulagloria 4 years ago
Judy Wood makes several physical analyses for the unreality of a pancaking collapse. Apparently the buildings collapsed as if it were free falling through air, or as if there was no internal resistance to the overall collapse. There was also an overall pulverization of the outer structure that seem more than highly unlikely. In that treatment, she did not say why the steel center strucure disappeared simutaneously with the overall collapse.
hypnofan35 4 years ago
There was no "collapse", those towers were destroyed.
balmori87 4 years ago
This was a very specialized demolition in the tall buildings, probably because they were so tall. Probably that is why there was so much pulverization. Some group of people wanted to get rid of them, and they also figured they could use it to invade Iraq and appropriate the oil. Pancaking collape is mostly out of the question as the experts seem to see it.
hypnofan35 4 years ago
I'm very interested in Dr. Wood's research and hate the BS she and Fetz are getting. None of it sounds 'kooky' to me, not even the anti-matter suggestions.
Google Directed Energy Directorate.
balmori87 4 years ago
What appears to have happened in real life is a phenomenon similar to somebody touching another person and making their bones disintegrate and their soft tissue dissolve, while their body splashes into a kind of heap as it lands unrecognizably in a 20 gallon bucket. All this would have to occur from the top down an accelerate at the rate of gravity. i am pretty sure this must have been accomplished by evil magic. lol
hypnofan35 4 years ago
thanks you...see my comment above about a childhood friend who now teaches astrophysics....they use the term all the time because these beams are a reality
paulagloria 4 years ago
Help me understand this theory in terms of motive. What was the motive of destroying the WTC, Pentagon and some field in PA? Who gained? My understading was that the WTC had a pretty high occupancy rate. I can't imagine the total loss of revenues that must have occured are on going, not to mention lives lost and ruined. Who gained?
bumpy111 4 years ago
bumpy111, who gained? Larry Silverstein for one, he gained 7 billion dollars. Bush administration gained, they got to go into Iraq that had nothing to do with 9/11 and they have been killing children ever since. Fox news has gained, their ratings went up. The NWO has gained, they are taking away your freedoms.
sunwestmovies 4 years ago
Wait a minute, is it Bush, Silverstein, the CIA, Castro, Osama, the FBI, the house of Saud or the Firefighters?
bumpy111 4 years ago
bumpy111, can you read? It's not the firefighters, why do you hate the firefighters?
sunwestmovies 4 years ago
keep in mind that judy wood believes the twin towers were destroyed by lazer beams from outer space...
rjs87 4 years ago
"keep in mind that judy wood believes the twin towers were destroyed by lazer beams from outer space..."
Case in point, this is why Air America went bankrupt.
bumpy111 4 years ago
I spoke to a childhood friend who now teaches astrophysics at a state college. He said that it is common, almost daily talk to speak of directed energy beams. this is a sober professor..what does that have to do with America being bankrupt. It is science. Judy wood is a professor of civil engineering
paulagloria 4 years ago
I have no doubt about the existence of Lasers. In fact they are used in surgery on a daily basis. The military is experimenting with them as weapons today.If is fact they were used on the WTC, you would have easly seen them in the smoke. First it takes a very long time for a lazer to work, second it would have needed to pass through smoke and become visable. They have hours and hours of eye witnesses and film, no not one iota of evidence of a laser being used.
bumpy111 4 years ago
It might be better to Google the name Judy Wood, since there seems to be a tutoring business with that same name JudyWood
hypnofan35 4 years ago
It would be a complete and total shame to lose records due to a fire or explosion. There is a thing called backup that is universally used and is also a simple matter given the electronic tools available to do that. If these were important documents they should have been multiply backed up.
hypnofan35 4 years ago
Fox News is disgraceful.
1gregmichael 4 years ago
Can whoever has posted Jim on Hannity and Colms send me a link so I can post it to video responses above?
paulagloria 4 years ago