This is great. I also write for Wikipedia : I consider it an intellectual responsibility to write for it, not simply to liberate myself by having the *opportunity* to provide information, but also to provide free information to others on subjects that I think are important. What you say about "monopolies of power" in education is compelling.
The internet in general is not a good place to get reliable information.
If you want to learn about a very specific subject then a book is the only real way to do it, unless you want to go back to college for every subject you ever take an interest in.
The internet is the place you go to get as many opinions as possible, and while wikipedia is pretty reliable by internet standards you will always find false or biased information there.
FAIL. You did not provide references for your evidence. FAIL. You haven't given credit to the source, that is theft of intellectual property. FAIL. I don't award marks to people that attack the institution that provides me with this comfortable job, easy lifestyle and authority. FAIL. Just who do you think you are with all your big ideas?
Hear, hear! Well said, Mac. I've been frustrated by this very same issue :)
There are luckily some educators who see the value of sites like Wikipedia. There is a wonderful program which gives computers to under resourced schools in rural Africa. There is no internet access available in these schools, so the computers are provided with a downloaded snapshot of the most current Wikipedia at that time, as well as out-of-copyright books that are available online at the time.
anarchy is just a piece of crap and it will never work because there is no order. a good political system needs some kind of order to function atleast a little
You should do a video on anarchy, so show people that it's a political system and such, for most people believe it's a society without rules and without leadership. And also, the word is used to mean "chaos".
How I like to get around the school or university's bar on Wikipedia, I used the cited sources on the Wikipedia page on the topic I need. They typically work just as well. ;)
and though if in an essay if i put wikipedia i always make sure i double take with other websites, though this is not unique to wiki, i do it on Encyclopedia Britannica, and other sites.
And in at least 1000 occasions the site has saved my parents from having a divorce over a heated argument about capital cities, presidents, books, films. and at least 100 other topics.
Overall, you're right. Part of it, though, is academic snobbery. Anything that "common" people have a hand in can't possibly be good - they haven't been annointed by those who control the educational monopoly. The unwashed masses aren't true believers.
There's a horrible bias in some of their political biographies. Benito Mussollini is a good example. Whoever wrote it essentially rewrote history. Same with other world leaders.
@Elekari Nice way to flip your failings as a student as the educator's fault. You're a piece of work. They're teaching you to have others do the thinking for you? There is no thinking being done for you by contributors to wikipedia? You are just oppositional defiant, seek professional help and remember to take all of your meds.
@Elekari I don't need to suffer idiots. If I spent my life defending everything I said, to every moron that responded to me there would be no time left at all. The moron stated I was incorrect and went on to say,"I wouldn't cite it in a paper because teachers don't view it as an acceptable source", which is exactly what I was saying. He then goes on to say this isn't evidence it isn't a credible source. Why don't you speak when spoken to? The guy is an idiot, hero on your own time.
Steven Colbert had people edit the wiki article about elephants to say they were no longer endangered. They had to lock down the site because of that debacle. It is for that reason, but not only that one why wikipedia is not an acceptable source.
@kokobaboko You are incorrect. Wikipedia is an amazing source for knowledge. I wouldn't cite it in a paper because teachers don't view it as an acceptable source for reasons Mac has stated in his video. This doesn't mean it isn't credible.
Mac's quote of Feynman was used to support his points, as is any source. He wasn't using an appeal to authority because he wasn't saying that what Feynman said trumps all others, but was simply presenting what he said in light of his prior arguments.
This is great. I also write for Wikipedia : I consider it an intellectual responsibility to write for it, not simply to liberate myself by having the *opportunity* to provide information, but also to provide free information to others on subjects that I think are important. What you say about "monopolies of power" in education is compelling.
annaomeara 3 months ago
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annaomeara 3 months ago
The internet in general is not a good place to get reliable information.
If you want to learn about a very specific subject then a book is the only real way to do it, unless you want to go back to college for every subject you ever take an interest in.
The internet is the place you go to get as many opinions as possible, and while wikipedia is pretty reliable by internet standards you will always find false or biased information there.
MrAudiovideodisco 10 months ago
FAIL. You did not provide references for your evidence. FAIL. You haven't given credit to the source, that is theft of intellectual property. FAIL. I don't award marks to people that attack the institution that provides me with this comfortable job, easy lifestyle and authority. FAIL. Just who do you think you are with all your big ideas?
BULLSHIT
pishposhcrydaisey 1 year ago
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@pishposhcrydaisey
Who do you think you are?
MoMoMan0 1 year ago
i think wikipedia is a great place to begin your research but a bad place to end it. i know this because of all the A papers i've written.
artaddiction101 1 year ago
I use Wikipedia as a reference point to look up other resources I never knew before.
mrbunnylamakins 1 year ago
Hear, hear! Well said, Mac. I've been frustrated by this very same issue :)
There are luckily some educators who see the value of sites like Wikipedia. There is a wonderful program which gives computers to under resourced schools in rural Africa. There is no internet access available in these schools, so the computers are provided with a downloaded snapshot of the most current Wikipedia at that time, as well as out-of-copyright books that are available online at the time.
TheRavenOfPoe 1 year ago
man I used to watch this kids videos all the time and look up to him so much. now I realize hes an arrogant stupid silly man
PocketFire 1 year ago
Great video. I've noticed that some of the least educated people I know have become teachers.
variableparticle 1 year ago
anarchy is just a piece of crap and it will never work because there is no order. a good political system needs some kind of order to function atleast a little
Stormblair 1 year ago
Your right on the money, my friend.
DominickBlack 1 year ago
fuck the genetic fallacy...glad the cast is back^_^
XxgotthelifexX 1 year ago
You should do a video on anarchy, so show people that it's a political system and such, for most people believe it's a society without rules and without leadership. And also, the word is used to mean "chaos".
TheLonelyImmortal 1 year ago
Encyclopedias in general are weak sources because they are a secondary source.
baskil 1 year ago
very nice , estoy de acuerdo completamente.
Tamagumo 1 year ago
Very interesting vid bro, good food for thought
goemon4 1 year ago
fuckin awesome video. literally showing this to professors.
netmaster96 1 year ago
This is why I got an F in English.
SeriouslyPissedOff 1 year ago
I completely agree.
TonkatrainHONKHONK 1 year ago
high fucking five mac!!!
enderwigginsx 1 year ago
How I like to get around the school or university's bar on Wikipedia, I used the cited sources on the Wikipedia page on the topic I need. They typically work just as well. ;)
Levitikai 1 year ago
All hail wikipedia! my most knowledgable friend.
and though if in an essay if i put wikipedia i always make sure i double take with other websites, though this is not unique to wiki, i do it on Encyclopedia Britannica, and other sites.
And in at least 1000 occasions the site has saved my parents from having a divorce over a heated argument about capital cities, presidents, books, films. and at least 100 other topics.
rorrt 1 year ago
Romeo and Juliet? Nice.
dcwest 1 year ago
Overall, you're right. Part of it, though, is academic snobbery. Anything that "common" people have a hand in can't possibly be good - they haven't been annointed by those who control the educational monopoly. The unwashed masses aren't true believers.
ProFriend 1 year ago
There's a horrible bias in some of their political biographies. Benito Mussollini is a good example. Whoever wrote it essentially rewrote history. Same with other world leaders.
bulafritz 1 year ago
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CrashGames2108 1 year ago
@Elekari Nice way to flip your failings as a student as the educator's fault. You're a piece of work. They're teaching you to have others do the thinking for you? There is no thinking being done for you by contributors to wikipedia? You are just oppositional defiant, seek professional help and remember to take all of your meds.
kokobaboko 1 year ago
@Elekari I don't need to suffer idiots. If I spent my life defending everything I said, to every moron that responded to me there would be no time left at all. The moron stated I was incorrect and went on to say,"I wouldn't cite it in a paper because teachers don't view it as an acceptable source", which is exactly what I was saying. He then goes on to say this isn't evidence it isn't a credible source. Why don't you speak when spoken to? The guy is an idiot, hero on your own time.
kokobaboko 1 year ago
One of the millions of reasons I left public school...
It irritates me that many people ignore that there is always a list of citations (notes) after a wikipedia article.
akillerkidofcolor 1 year ago
Oh come on on you really that surprised?
Public education is ass backwards. You know it, I know it, even the teachers know it.
Colleges require HUGE amounts of money because a dumber society is easier to control (at least the people in charge think that).
catchafire221 1 year ago
True I completely agree . In my opinion the school loses credibility every time they don't let us use Wikipedia..
ZombiePowerDrink 1 year ago
Steven Colbert had people edit the wiki article about elephants to say they were no longer endangered. They had to lock down the site because of that debacle. It is for that reason, but not only that one why wikipedia is not an acceptable source.
BTW quoting Feynman is an appeal to authority.
kokobaboko 1 year ago
@kokobaboko You are incorrect. Wikipedia is an amazing source for knowledge. I wouldn't cite it in a paper because teachers don't view it as an acceptable source for reasons Mac has stated in his video. This doesn't mean it isn't credible.
Mac's quote of Feynman was used to support his points, as is any source. He wasn't using an appeal to authority because he wasn't saying that what Feynman said trumps all others, but was simply presenting what he said in light of his prior arguments.
dimsho 1 year ago 5
@dimsho Whatever, moron.
kokobaboko 1 year ago