@R0ccojas0n I don't get it Cuba is literally begging for USA to help I meancuba economy is in bad shape but since it been like that it's normal I still wonder why we still can't go over there
Actually, Cuba has become pretty wealthy in the last 10 years due to closer ties with South America and China. The US lifting the embargo would be helpful, which ALBA is pressuring the US to do at the moment, but they can still live without it. The Cubans have been under the embargo for exactly 50 years now, so I think they developed themselves pretty well to make up for the lost revenue that comes with American trading.
@havee3333333 Considering they lost their most significant trading partner and they're denied any trade with the world's other (now primary) superpower for so long, I think Cuba even still existing is pretty wildly impressive. I just wonder how they would have developed without the embargo to impede it.
Have you not read something about Cuba since the 1970s? Cuba's economy is now based on trading with Mexico, Venezuela, Chile, Brazil, etc., which look at Cuba as a sovereign country worthy of governing itself however they please.
Also, these South American countries now have a Socialist tendency, which makes them far more friendly to Cuba than say the US.
Cuba doesn't need America anymore. They can easily make it with South America only.
In 1987, the year of Perestroika, the SU's HDI(human development index) was .920(compared to the USA's .961).
In 1995, Russia's HDI was .769.
In 2011, Russia's HDI was .755(compared to the USA's .910).
After the collapse of the USSR, the former Soviet states were in shambles. The peoples' livelihoods were destroyed, while a few individuals took advantage of the new and starting markets and became extremely rich.
Gorbachev once said his 'ambition was to Liquidate Communism', this after he helped destroy the country. Gorbachev's Perestroika was meant to change the Marxist-Leninism that the SU had since Lenin, and to replace it with Free Market reforms. This massive change lead to food shortages, dissent, destabilization, etc.
It has been a trend of Marxist-Leninism to 'stir the ship' which was the USSR into different, but still Marxist-Leninist, direction. This would have been far more productive.
The major reason for the economic collapse of the SU was because of Brezhnev's poor economic policies, which were conservatism. Brezhnev refused to go along with the much needed reforms that the USSR needed, citing the 7% GDP growth annually as a reason not to.This system eventually stagnated in 1973, where the USSR's GDP growth plummitted to 2%.Gorbachev then ruined the country with perestroika.
Also, the USSR spent about 25% of their GDP on military. This compared to the USA's 8-12%.
@havee3333333 Excellent data and well said. How do you think Perestroika contributed to CCCPS economic downfall, a ponderous point. Did you live there?
Well I'd argue that Perestroika destabilized the USSR. When you have an economy, whether Capitalist or Socialist, any major change can greatly impact how your society functions. The Soviet Economy was based on Socialism in One State policies from 1929-1987. When you have a system that lasts that long, destabilization will cause your peoples' standards of living to collapse.
How do you expect investors to invest in a country that has uncertainty?
Your first sentence has to be one of the stupidest claims I've ever heard. You completely disregard all of Das Kapital, and I in fact think you haven't even read it.
Democracy is intertwined with Communism. They system itself is a grassroots Democracy. Power doesn't come from the top, like how you Westerners portray Communism, rather it comes straight from the people. The Soviet Union, gave a lot of authority to workers' communes, including voting on working conditions, etc.
Do you really think I don't know about Karl Marx? Do you think I don't know that 80-90% of the information in his books were influenced by information he received from the British Museum?
Communism has also existed prior to Marx, but of course your too ignorant to know about figures like Francois Babeuf.
It is also impolite to correct grammar and spelling. The fact that I don't live in the US should give you some leniency towards my spelling.
Capitalism is a concept that is followed in Marxist-Leninist thought. You obviously have no way to comprehend this since I doubt you've read Marx, Lenin, or Stalin.
Marxist-Leninists believe that Capitalism is required for Communism to be produced, this is mostly because of the productive forces offered by Capitalism. Marxist-Leninism, contrary to Western Bourgeois Capitalism, want to create a Proletarian Capitalist system.
Fact is one could be a practicing communist in the US during the Cold War. Fact is you couldn't be a practicing capitalist in the USSR during the Cold War. In the US a person was free to be what they wanted to be. In the USSR profit was a crime and everyone was only allowed to know what the gov't wanted them to know. In the US, media choice has been a hotbed of publicly contested ideas. Unfortunatly, todays AP,UPI,Reuters etc. are no different than Pravda,Izvestia,Novosti, or Tass outlets.
@skershaw2000 You assume much w/o data making your analysis incompetent and churlish. Liberals, undiscerning dolts unfit to be entrusted with wit. Go play with your college pin hypocrite, and may I recommend scream therapy? A little late for diaper training, but I'm sure if you try really hard? Sorry to hear your autobiography but you haven't a sympathetic ear...lose elsewhere
The New Economic Policy let a limited free market exist from 1921-29,then Stalin and his government changed it to Socialism in One State(State Capitalism).
If you read the Soviet Constitutions from '36 and '77,and let's assume that the Soviet government followed it as much as the US government does today,you could see that there was such a thing as Private Property and Individual rights in the SU.Once again, this is the Constitution of a Country,and not some Political Propaganda.
@havee3333333 You obviously know technically more than I do, but I've heard many accounts of eyewitnesses claim indeed, this is what the Soviet constitution states but practically was not followed through with. Tacit agreements between gov't officials and black marketeers could have allowed sporadic, temporal conditions of sovereign private rights, but the majority were not privvy to this. What were the SUs reasons for economic collapse in your opinion?
I agree with your assertion on the Soviet Constitution. It is obvious that states break these laws, since they're above the law. All countries are like this.
Further, I use a rule of thumb when it comes to these things. I assume that it is at least 70% true, and I will give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to trivial situations.
-continued(I will talk about the reasons for the collapse next)-
You should read a little about Marxist-Leninism.It follows the concept that Capitalism is a requirement for the development of Socialism,and later Communism.Capitalism,as stated by both Marx and Lenin,is a great productive force.It has created things that no other system has been able to produce.So if Socialism is to rise,the productive forces of Capitalism are needed.
From 1921-29, the USSR followed the idea of Proletariat Capitalism.This is different from the Western Bourgeois Capitalism.
You seem to have a skewed view of what Communism actually is.I request you give me the definition, in your opinion, what Communism is.
I will quickly fix any misconceptions.
I decided not to read many of your comments,since I was offended by your crude language,so if you decide to reply, please clean up your language.
Also look up the Soviet invasion of Manchuria, August 1945.Please don't forget that Manchuria was historically Russian land, but they had to cede it because of the 1904 war.
lol. Since when was manchuria historically russian land? It was NEVER part of russia. It negociated its border treaty with russia in the late seventeen century.
@R0ccojas0n How the fuck can you say thats all the USSR DID?! THEY SAVED YOU PIGS IN VANE FROM THE NAZIS IF NOT FOR THEM YOU WOULD'VE BEEN SLAUGHTERED! DUMB AMERICANS... FUCKING HONESTLY WOW!
The USSR didn't invade North Korea or Afghanistan, they rather supported pro-Marxist-Leninist revolutions.
North China was controlled by Manchuria, a Japanese puppet.Korea and the Eastern Bloc were occupied nations prior to liberation, and they needed a stable new governments. Can you blame the SU for spreading its sphere of influence?
The SU did what all Superpowers do,but of course you get your history out of American Propaganda.
@havee3333333 Firstly, you're wrong....USSR invaded the north half of Korea (today's North Korea), and they invaded Afghanistan and failed after 10 years of fighting
and they went further into China until Stalin told them to stop
Also, the deaths Reagan caused definitally dont correspond to any number that USSR has done total in the past century
@gkyy3c Chile=Communist Argentina and Brazil=Dictator
USA is against those kinds of governments
and guess what, USA only focused at those 3 countries, and guess what...USSR killed many INNOCENTS, and tried to turn all of europe and afghanistan into communism
Should i mention how USSR invaded North china, southeast Mongolia, North Korea, Poland, and Finland? and that was just WW2, what about later on when they caused threats on USA by using CUBA, and invading Afghanistan?
Your just an American apologist and Nationalist.All countries have people like you.
If you actually knew about the Cuban missile crisis,you'd know that the USA deployed nukes to Turkey and the USSR tried to deploy nukes to Cuba to cancel out that threat.Both countries stopped deployments right after this event.
The British Empire stretched from South Africa to Burma.The US currently has a massive trade empire.Are you really going to sanction the USSR for doing the same?
@havee3333333 only reason i was being defensive in the beginning because one of ur commie-loving cunts had to make a bullshit false insult about USA...people like you shouldnt even be allowed to be on YouTube, cause you come to a USA site and insult USA
also, USA =/= British....and i dont see what's wrong with USA having a lot of trading going on
USSR didnt invade nations to build trade routes, they invaded for more land, which USA didnt ever do
@R0ccojas0n I am falling apart? What am I some sort of country, listen kiddo. My political 'world' or whatever never dissapeared or will dissapear. But what we got here, Capitalist Amerika falling apart. EU suffering from economy stalemate. Oh so who is actually failing here? We still got Cuba and Nepal. Let's leave North Korea out because they are Fascist.
Again I know more then you ever will of a 100 years of living
@SMGJohn ROFL! the capitalist nations might be suffering on economical problems....but let's look at cuba and nepal, 2 tiny nations with practically no economy to start with, and so tiny what purpose do they really show?
and guess what, even the soviets were scared to even go to cuba cause USA stood in their way...
hmp, i don't know where you're getting the *i know more then you ever will of a 100 years of living* when i doubt u have learned anything in the past 20 years
@R0ccojas0n I will never understand Capitalists like you. Does nation even have to have a purpose you retard? No, as long as the people are happy they don't practically have to do anything for the world, go fuck your beloved president in USA champ.
And Soviet Union went a billion times to Cuba your statement is false. They even delievered nuclear missiles. The one you stopped don't count, several was delivered by submarines. So you failed little kid
@R0ccojas0n Blocked? Oh no! Is that suppose to anger me or what? Clearly your too stupid to even understand anything at all. I wont even bother to start explaining when your to retarded to think there is anything at all outside Amerikan Fascist land
@SMGJohn everything u're saying is just increasing how retarded you are....and communism has more facism than capitalism (north korea makes a good example), so u brutally fail there
and u're the one who started this mess by being the legit faggot to call all capitalists fat
and how does the cuban missle crises not count? it caused fear across the whole world, so that makes another double-fail for you
@gkyy3c then explain the part where USSR threatened to use the missles on USA when USA didnt do that in the first place
not to mention, explain all the crimes USSR have done to Europe, infact one of your commie leaders was voted as one of the top 5 to be one of the mass murderer leaders of all time
Long before the Cuba Missile Crisis, the USA had missiles in West Germany, incredibly close to the Warsaw Pact nations. Russia responded and you got butthurt about it.
@ShadowRSonic THANKS R0ccojas0n, I was trying to remember this fact... USA STARTED THE WHOLE SHIT, THE WHOLE COLD WAR!!! COMMUNISTS DID NOT WANTED IT!!!
The US had recently deployed Nukes to Turkey,a neighbor of the USSR,and to counter this the SU wanted to deploy some to Cuba.
There was a quick agreement for the US to take the nukes away,and a few months later it happened.R0cc takes a 1st person perspective of the US,and a 2nd person perspective of all other countries.This is why he speaks in his bias way.I suggest you disregard anyone that does such a thing, whether Capitalist or Socialist, and look for a 3rd person perspective.
@havee3333333 You should be quiet, because you didnt obviously read the beginning of the argument, because he and the earlier moron are doing the SAME EXACT THING on the other side
and guess what, it was one of ur commie fags that decided to come in and say a bullshit false-statement about USA, i deny him with a fact and here we are with you guys bringing up all this freaking history with all the ups and downs on both sides
@MaoistLeninistMarx Lol. But I think the 1st girl is cute. I learned that this girl name is Natalia Lashenova. Do you know what the 5th girl name? I have a list of those girls' name.
Elena Shushunova, Svetlana Boginskaya, Elena Shevchenko, Natalia Lashenova, Svetlana Baitova, Olyga Strazheva
@MaoistLeninistMarx Okay. If you think this way about 5th girl, then that is fine. It is nothing wrong with it. But still, I think 1st girl is cute!!! Lol.
@TheClayPeopleAreHere Me Think so to!! Her name is Svetlana Leonidovna Boginskaya (born February 9, 1973). She even represented Soviet but she was born in Soviet/Belarus.. But Im sure she was focused and tired.. She was also called for the swan and shes still in gymnastics in other ways even today.. It´s awesome that we react the same way.. :D:D Her eyes says more then words doesn´t it???
@elpervertos to do gymnastics you do not need steroids or a lot of strength, the body needs to be flexible and agile, and have these attributes, it takes many, many years and hours of training. Stupid american tard, the Soviets have created 90% of modern gymnastics!!!
WE MISS YOU SSSR, COME BACK SOON, AMERICA SOON FALLS WITH THEIR OWN AFGHANISTAN CONTINUING THOUGH THEIR ECONOMY IS THAT BAD THAT THEIR EMPIRE WILL FUCKING FALL AND THE PEOPLE'S WORLD WILL AGAIN LEAD!
@YoungKoolness17 anyway i'm russian but russia is no longer communist, anyway russian people are decent, cuz the winters are REALLY REALLY cold last winter was terribly cold - i wore thick clothes everyday
@international153 you are not russian, you live in spain. you are bastardo, renegate, traitor, man with no motherland living like animal just to consume and to live in warm places like roach. I am russian, and I am communist and proud of that and I like winter too.
@YoungKoolness17 fuck capitalism and all bastards anti-communists like Hitler, Reagan and you. Long live to communism and brotherhood of people of working class.
@MaoistLeninistMarx i mean because moldova has the same shapes and color as rumania except they add the symbol.... thats why I thought thats modavian flag.
@R0ccojas0n I don't get it Cuba is literally begging for USA to help I meancuba economy is in bad shape but since it been like that it's normal I still wonder why we still can't go over there
SMSOakwoodGa 5 days ago
@SMSOakwoodGa
Actually, Cuba has become pretty wealthy in the last 10 years due to closer ties with South America and China. The US lifting the embargo would be helpful, which ALBA is pressuring the US to do at the moment, but they can still live without it. The Cubans have been under the embargo for exactly 50 years now, so I think they developed themselves pretty well to make up for the lost revenue that comes with American trading.
havee3333333 5 days ago
@havee3333333 Considering they lost their most significant trading partner and they're denied any trade with the world's other (now primary) superpower for so long, I think Cuba even still existing is pretty wildly impressive. I just wonder how they would have developed without the embargo to impede it.
nocturnezero 4 days ago
@nocturnezero
Have you not read something about Cuba since the 1970s? Cuba's economy is now based on trading with Mexico, Venezuela, Chile, Brazil, etc., which look at Cuba as a sovereign country worthy of governing itself however they please.
Also, these South American countries now have a Socialist tendency, which makes them far more friendly to Cuba than say the US.
Cuba doesn't need America anymore. They can easily make it with South America only.
havee3333333 4 days ago
@c
Gorbachev wanted to keep the SU together, but he lost power due to the President of the Russian SFSR's,Boris Yeltsin,aggressive Nationalist policies.
Gorbachev obviously didn't want to create what he did, but that was what eventually happened.
In 1990,the SU's GNP(gross national product) was $2.65 Trillion.In 1998,the Former SU's GNP was $300 Billion.
The former SU has just recently caught back up to Soviet era's economic power.That means they lost 20 years of progress due to these clowns.
havee3333333 6 days ago
@chick
In 1987, the year of Perestroika, the SU's HDI(human development index) was .920(compared to the USA's .961).
In 1995, Russia's HDI was .769.
In 2011, Russia's HDI was .755(compared to the USA's .910).
After the collapse of the USSR, the former Soviet states were in shambles. The peoples' livelihoods were destroyed, while a few individuals took advantage of the new and starting markets and became extremely rich.
-continued once more-
havee3333333 6 days ago
@chick
Gorbachev once said his 'ambition was to Liquidate Communism', this after he helped destroy the country. Gorbachev's Perestroika was meant to change the Marxist-Leninism that the SU had since Lenin, and to replace it with Free Market reforms. This massive change lead to food shortages, dissent, destabilization, etc.
It has been a trend of Marxist-Leninism to 'stir the ship' which was the USSR into different, but still Marxist-Leninist, direction. This would have been far more productive.
havee3333333 1 week ago
@chick
The major reason for the economic collapse of the SU was because of Brezhnev's poor economic policies, which were conservatism. Brezhnev refused to go along with the much needed reforms that the USSR needed, citing the 7% GDP growth annually as a reason not to.This system eventually stagnated in 1973, where the USSR's GDP growth plummitted to 2%.Gorbachev then ruined the country with perestroika.
Also, the USSR spent about 25% of their GDP on military. This compared to the USA's 8-12%.
havee3333333 1 week ago
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skershaw2000 1 week ago
@skershaw2000
"History repeats itself first as tragedy second as farce."
-Karl Marx
havee3333333 1 week ago
@havee3333333 Excellent data and well said. How do you think Perestroika contributed to CCCPS economic downfall, a ponderous point. Did you live there?
chickenwretch 6 days ago
@chickenwretch
Well I'd argue that Perestroika destabilized the USSR. When you have an economy, whether Capitalist or Socialist, any major change can greatly impact how your society functions. The Soviet Economy was based on Socialism in One State policies from 1929-1987. When you have a system that lasts that long, destabilization will cause your peoples' standards of living to collapse.
How do you expect investors to invest in a country that has uncertainty?
-continued-
havee3333333 6 days ago
@sker
Your first sentence has to be one of the stupidest claims I've ever heard. You completely disregard all of Das Kapital, and I in fact think you haven't even read it.
Democracy is intertwined with Communism. They system itself is a grassroots Democracy. Power doesn't come from the top, like how you Westerners portray Communism, rather it comes straight from the people. The Soviet Union, gave a lot of authority to workers' communes, including voting on working conditions, etc.
havee3333333 1 week ago
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skershaw2000 1 week ago
@skershaw2000
Do you really think I don't know about Karl Marx? Do you think I don't know that 80-90% of the information in his books were influenced by information he received from the British Museum?
Communism has also existed prior to Marx, but of course your too ignorant to know about figures like Francois Babeuf.
It is also impolite to correct grammar and spelling. The fact that I don't live in the US should give you some leniency towards my spelling.
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skershaw2000 1 week ago
@skershaw2000
Capitalism is a concept that is followed in Marxist-Leninist thought. You obviously have no way to comprehend this since I doubt you've read Marx, Lenin, or Stalin.
Marxist-Leninists believe that Capitalism is required for Communism to be produced, this is mostly because of the productive forces offered by Capitalism. Marxist-Leninism, contrary to Western Bourgeois Capitalism, want to create a Proletarian Capitalist system.
-continued-
havee3333333 1 week ago
LOL communists singing in Seoul. Only at the Olympics. You will never conquer the beautiful Republic of Korea! F*** Kim Jong Un!
TheTollundWoman 1 week ago
Fact is one could be a practicing communist in the US during the Cold War. Fact is you couldn't be a practicing capitalist in the USSR during the Cold War. In the US a person was free to be what they wanted to be. In the USSR profit was a crime and everyone was only allowed to know what the gov't wanted them to know. In the US, media choice has been a hotbed of publicly contested ideas. Unfortunatly, todays AP,UPI,Reuters etc. are no different than Pravda,Izvestia,Novosti, or Tass outlets.
chickenwretch 1 week ago
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skershaw2000 1 week ago
#1 Economics are an integral part of any nation/gov't, use some Socratic thinking here, if you're able.
#2 disingenuious you are, where were the Fords, Rockefellers, Gates in your communist nations?
#3 BS, that's why the Black Market was illegal but tolerated. Production eventually flatlined as wages did. think man think!
#4 don't do my thinking for me, you've a hard enough time doing your own ignoramus.
#5 thank you genius!
#6 you swallowed CCCPs, I didn't. What about freedom forgot that
chickenwretch 1 week ago
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skershaw2000 1 week ago
@skershaw2000 You assume much w/o data making your analysis incompetent and churlish. Liberals, undiscerning dolts unfit to be entrusted with wit. Go play with your college pin hypocrite, and may I recommend scream therapy? A little late for diaper training, but I'm sure if you try really hard? Sorry to hear your autobiography but you haven't a sympathetic ear...lose elsewhere
chickenwretch 1 week ago
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skershaw2000 1 week ago
@chickenwretch
The New Economic Policy let a limited free market exist from 1921-29,then Stalin and his government changed it to Socialism in One State(State Capitalism).
If you read the Soviet Constitutions from '36 and '77,and let's assume that the Soviet government followed it as much as the US government does today,you could see that there was such a thing as Private Property and Individual rights in the SU.Once again, this is the Constitution of a Country,and not some Political Propaganda.
havee3333333 1 week ago
@havee3333333 You obviously know technically more than I do, but I've heard many accounts of eyewitnesses claim indeed, this is what the Soviet constitution states but practically was not followed through with. Tacit agreements between gov't officials and black marketeers could have allowed sporadic, temporal conditions of sovereign private rights, but the majority were not privvy to this. What were the SUs reasons for economic collapse in your opinion?
chickenwretch 1 week ago
@chickenwretch
I agree with your assertion on the Soviet Constitution. It is obvious that states break these laws, since they're above the law. All countries are like this.
Further, I use a rule of thumb when it comes to these things. I assume that it is at least 70% true, and I will give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to trivial situations.
-continued(I will talk about the reasons for the collapse next)-
havee3333333 1 week ago
@R0
You don't hate Communism because it doesn't work.You hate it because America doesn't follow it.
There is a lot of proof for this.
During the USSR,Soviet citizens loved Communism and would die for it where it is now just an ideology for them.
In the USA, the was a brutal Crusade against Communism,and the Capitalist system hasn't fallen, so they continue to hate Communism.
In China, the CPC is still in power,so many Chinese citizens support Communism.If the CPC collapsed,they likely wouldn't.
havee3333333 1 week ago
@R0
You should read a little about Marxist-Leninism.It follows the concept that Capitalism is a requirement for the development of Socialism,and later Communism.Capitalism,as stated by both Marx and Lenin,is a great productive force.It has created things that no other system has been able to produce.So if Socialism is to rise,the productive forces of Capitalism are needed.
From 1921-29, the USSR followed the idea of Proletariat Capitalism.This is different from the Western Bourgeois Capitalism.
havee3333333 1 week ago
why do not they sing?
Justus30001 1 week ago
@R0
You seem to have a skewed view of what Communism actually is.I request you give me the definition, in your opinion, what Communism is.
I will quickly fix any misconceptions.
I decided not to read many of your comments,since I was offended by your crude language,so if you decide to reply, please clean up your language.
Also look up the Soviet invasion of Manchuria, August 1945.Please don't forget that Manchuria was historically Russian land, but they had to cede it because of the 1904 war.
havee3333333 1 week ago
@havee3333333
lol. Since when was manchuria historically russian land? It was NEVER part of russia. It negociated its border treaty with russia in the late seventeen century.
Vyylandra 5 days ago
@Vyylandra
Why don't you look up the Russian and Japanese borders prior to the Russo-Japanese war of 1905.
Russia was given recognition of owning Manchuria in 1858 by the Chinese government.
havee3333333 5 days ago
@R0
Look up the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan.
I will send you a list of crimes by Capitalism.
havee3333333 1 week ago
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@R0ccojas0n How the fuck can you say thats all the USSR DID?! THEY SAVED YOU PIGS IN VANE FROM THE NAZIS IF NOT FOR THEM YOU WOULD'VE BEEN SLAUGHTERED! DUMB AMERICANS... FUCKING HONESTLY WOW!
ZombieKiller4D 1 week ago
The USSR didn't invade North Korea or Afghanistan, they rather supported pro-Marxist-Leninist revolutions.
North China was controlled by Manchuria, a Japanese puppet.Korea and the Eastern Bloc were occupied nations prior to liberation, and they needed a stable new governments. Can you blame the SU for spreading its sphere of influence?
The SU did what all Superpowers do,but of course you get your history out of American Propaganda.
Guess what mate,Reagan caused millions of deaths.
havee3333333 1 week ago
@havee3333333 Firstly, you're wrong....USSR invaded the north half of Korea (today's North Korea), and they invaded Afghanistan and failed after 10 years of fighting
and they went further into China until Stalin told them to stop
Also, the deaths Reagan caused definitally dont correspond to any number that USSR has done total in the past century
R0ccojas0n 1 week ago
@gkyy3c Also, this whole debate-mess started when one of ur idoits made a false-shitty comment about USA, so dont be thinking i caused it
R0ccojas0n 1 week ago 2
@gkyy3c Chile=Communist Argentina and Brazil=Dictator
USA is against those kinds of governments
and guess what, USA only focused at those 3 countries, and guess what...USSR killed many INNOCENTS, and tried to turn all of europe and afghanistan into communism
Should i mention how USSR invaded North china, southeast Mongolia, North Korea, Poland, and Finland? and that was just WW2, what about later on when they caused threats on USA by using CUBA, and invading Afghanistan?
R0ccojas0n 1 week ago 2
@R0ccojas0n
Your just an American apologist and Nationalist.All countries have people like you.
If you actually knew about the Cuban missile crisis,you'd know that the USA deployed nukes to Turkey and the USSR tried to deploy nukes to Cuba to cancel out that threat.Both countries stopped deployments right after this event.
The British Empire stretched from South Africa to Burma.The US currently has a massive trade empire.Are you really going to sanction the USSR for doing the same?
havee3333333 1 week ago
@havee3333333 only reason i was being defensive in the beginning because one of ur commie-loving cunts had to make a bullshit false insult about USA...people like you shouldnt even be allowed to be on YouTube, cause you come to a USA site and insult USA
also, USA =/= British....and i dont see what's wrong with USA having a lot of trading going on
USSR didnt invade nations to build trade routes, they invaded for more land, which USA didnt ever do
R0ccojas0n 1 week ago 2
The girl at 0:20 would SNAP ME IN HALF! Did you see her side view? You can clearly see her strength!
LockemShoto 2 weeks ago
those gals identify themselves as soviet unioners. but after it collapsed, who are they anymore?
poorboy12345 3 weeks ago
nice music,whether it is USSR or Russia,doesn't matter, keep going ,
asperse458 1 month ago
Competir para ter vitória com conciência
criandonocaos 1 month ago
it's interesting americunt pigs don't act as if they won... they're whining and bitching here, cu Z they HAVE actually LOST...
MrViTopol 1 month ago
Communists wins! Unlike the fat Capitalist pigs, I guess they where to fat to even do anything at all in the Olympics
SMGJohn 1 month ago
@SMGJohn yo, fuck off, u know nothing...not all capitalists are fat, and i bet fat communist had fat people too...so stfu
R0ccojas0n 1 month ago 3
@R0ccojas0n Communists stay healthy and eat rice and fish so we don't get fat. You failed n00b
SMGJohn 1 month ago
@SMGJohn and yet u are falling apart and ur political world is dissapearing...hmp, it's you who fails
again, u know nothing
R0ccojas0n 1 month ago 5
@R0ccojas0n I am falling apart? What am I some sort of country, listen kiddo. My political 'world' or whatever never dissapeared or will dissapear. But what we got here, Capitalist Amerika falling apart. EU suffering from economy stalemate. Oh so who is actually failing here? We still got Cuba and Nepal. Let's leave North Korea out because they are Fascist.
Again I know more then you ever will of a 100 years of living
SMGJohn 1 month ago
@SMGJohn ROFL! the capitalist nations might be suffering on economical problems....but let's look at cuba and nepal, 2 tiny nations with practically no economy to start with, and so tiny what purpose do they really show?
and guess what, even the soviets were scared to even go to cuba cause USA stood in their way...
hmp, i don't know where you're getting the *i know more then you ever will of a 100 years of living* when i doubt u have learned anything in the past 20 years
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R0ccojas0n 1 month ago 4
@R0ccojas0n I will never understand Capitalists like you. Does nation even have to have a purpose you retard? No, as long as the people are happy they don't practically have to do anything for the world, go fuck your beloved president in USA champ.
And Soviet Union went a billion times to Cuba your statement is false. They even delievered nuclear missiles. The one you stopped don't count, several was delivered by submarines. So you failed little kid
SMGJohn 1 month ago
@R0ccojas0n Blocked? Oh no! Is that suppose to anger me or what? Clearly your too stupid to even understand anything at all. I wont even bother to start explaining when your to retarded to think there is anything at all outside Amerikan Fascist land
SMGJohn 1 month ago
@SMGJohn everything u're saying is just increasing how retarded you are....and communism has more facism than capitalism (north korea makes a good example), so u brutally fail there
and u're the one who started this mess by being the legit faggot to call all capitalists fat
and how does the cuban missle crises not count? it caused fear across the whole world, so that makes another double-fail for you
R0ccojas0n 1 month ago 2
@R0ccojas0n It was a legitimate response to the US missiles installed a month before a hundred miles away from USSR!!!
USA is not the good guy here!!!
gkyy3c 2 weeks ago
@gkyy3c then explain the part where USSR threatened to use the missles on USA when USA didnt do that in the first place
not to mention, explain all the crimes USSR have done to Europe, infact one of your commie leaders was voted as one of the top 5 to be one of the mass murderer leaders of all time
Clearly USA is the good one, not USSR
R0ccojas0n 2 weeks ago 2
@R0ccojas0n
Long before the Cuba Missile Crisis, the USA had missiles in West Germany, incredibly close to the Warsaw Pact nations. Russia responded and you got butthurt about it.
ShadowRSonic 2 weeks ago
@ShadowRSonic back then they were allies so it didnt matter
they werent by the time the crisis came by...and USSR was the one to retreat when USA threatened war on them about the missles
R0ccojas0n 2 weeks ago 2
@ShadowRSonic THANKS R0ccojas0n, I was trying to remember this fact... USA STARTED THE WHOLE SHIT, THE WHOLE COLD WAR!!! COMMUNISTS DID NOT WANTED IT!!!
gkyy3c 1 week ago
@gkyy3c the cold war was over industrial-growth
and that's all USSR ever really did, so dont be saying communist didnt want it
R0ccojas0n 1 week ago 2
@ShadowRSonic
The US had recently deployed Nukes to Turkey,a neighbor of the USSR,and to counter this the SU wanted to deploy some to Cuba.
There was a quick agreement for the US to take the nukes away,and a few months later it happened.R0cc takes a 1st person perspective of the US,and a 2nd person perspective of all other countries.This is why he speaks in his bias way.I suggest you disregard anyone that does such a thing, whether Capitalist or Socialist, and look for a 3rd person perspective.
havee3333333 1 week ago
@havee3333333 You should be quiet, because you didnt obviously read the beginning of the argument, because he and the earlier moron are doing the SAME EXACT THING on the other side
and guess what, it was one of ur commie fags that decided to come in and say a bullshit false-statement about USA, i deny him with a fact and here we are with you guys bringing up all this freaking history with all the ups and downs on both sides
R0ccojas0n 1 week ago
communist russia, germany and romania... well they knew how to train their athletes x)
ssoloness 1 month ago 2
Am I the only one noticing the fact that the five Soviets look pretty damn good?
TVgeinus90sSim 1 month ago 3
@TVgeinus90sSim too bad that these girls are like in their high 30s low 40s now
R0ccojas0n 1 month ago 3
@R0ccojas0n point taken. man the 80s were more interesting
TVgeinus90sSim 1 month ago
...and you threw it all away for a Big Mac.
ToothpickMe 1 month ago
they were already taking steroid or it's only my impression?
cepomwa 2 months ago
the girl at 0:18 is sure in a shitty mood. Shes about to knock the fuck out of somebody
janson84 2 months ago
Soviet union for the win!
marcusfalcon 2 months ago
Oh those were the days! USA vs USSR (and East Germany) at the Olympics!
The cold war is over... I miss it so...
It's not like when you go to war on "terror" terror is gonna send a team of athletes you know?
tradercris 2 months ago 18
@tradercris : we live in a cowards era.
maladsyko 2 months ago
@tradercris haha lol trudat
jizzinmypants191919 1 month ago
@tradercris LOL good one
kloratis 2 weeks ago
@tradercris Nope, just a few I.E.Ds planted on the road and a bunch of 5.45mm rounds in your combat gear.
DrFrohman 1 week ago
This bring back the good old memories when Communist/Socialist Countries are dominating the Olympics
CrazySoon9413 3 months ago 2
my 3 favorite flags ^^
rumi82 3 months ago
Three socialist potences at the moment; URSS, RDA and RPR
CBLFly 3 months ago
what a great team Romania had back then.
draceadanadrian 3 months ago
@RewindShit That's the spirit Comrade!
nowupdate 4 months ago 4
What is wrong with 5th girl? Why she looks so mad? She should be happy because her team won first place in olympic.
skullhell666 4 months ago
@skullhell666
actually she was tired and pissed. Like I said in the comment that is very famous "Get this fucking anthem out of the way: I'm tired as fuck"
MrTantraMan 4 months ago
@MrTantraMan Yeah. Maybe she had bad mood from her menstruation. Lol!
skullhell666 4 months ago
@skullhell666 Great logic: she was probably in pain then.
MrTantraMan 4 months ago
@MrTantraMan Yeah. Maybe she had pain before that happened. I guess. who knows?
skullhell666 4 months ago
@skullhell666 She looks pretty good though, huuuu?
MaoistLeninistMarx 3 months ago
@MaoistLeninistMarx Which girls you are talking about? The mad-looking 5th girl or cute-looking 1st girl?
skullhell666 3 months ago
@skullhell666 The 5th one.
MaoistLeninistMarx 3 months ago
@MaoistLeninistMarx Lol. But I think the 1st girl is cute. I learned that this girl name is Natalia Lashenova. Do you know what the 5th girl name? I have a list of those girls' name.
Elena Shushunova, Svetlana Boginskaya, Elena Shevchenko, Natalia Lashenova, Svetlana Baitova, Olyga Strazheva
So which name is the 5th one? Thanks.
skullhell666 3 months ago
@skullhell666 Yes they are all cute but I am saying the fifth one is hot
MaoistLeninistMarx 3 months ago
@MaoistLeninistMarx
Oh please!!!! That gal got me floored with her look of tiredness. Read my hilarious quote: it has over 60 thumbs up. :D
MrTantraMan 3 months ago
@MrTantraMan what exactly do you mean by "floored"?
MaoistLeninistMarx 3 months ago
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MrTantraMan 3 months ago
@MaoistLeninistMarx
I was amazed and also laughed at what I saw. That's what I mean by being "floored"
MrTantraMan 3 months ago
@MrTantraMan why were you that way
MaoistLeninistMarx 3 months ago
@MaoistLeninistMarx
MrTantraMan 3 months ago
@MrTantraMan what?
MaoistLeninistMarx 3 months ago
@MaoistLeninistMarx Okay. If you think this way about 5th girl, then that is fine. It is nothing wrong with it. But still, I think 1st girl is cute!!! Lol.
skullhell666 3 months ago
@Swertzer hahahahahhah XD very clever :)
GreeceIMBA 4 months ago
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Fantastic thing watching these athlet singing "Partiya Lenina sila narodnaya
Nas k torzhestvu kommunizma vedyot!" (Lenin's Party and power of people will guide us to victory of communism!)
Слава Союзу Советскому!
niczano 4 months ago
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niczano 4 months ago
wow, communists rule 1:15
they should've play The Internationale instead lol
The888MusicChannel 4 months ago
Love the last girls face. I don't know what she is so pissed off about but she looks like she just wants to kill everyone there.
TheClayPeopleAreHere 4 months ago 4
@TheClayPeopleAreHere
Ok she could be BOTH tired and pissed. More tired than anything else.
MrTantraMan 4 months ago in playlist Liked
@TheClayPeopleAreHere Me Think so to!! Her name is Svetlana Leonidovna Boginskaya (born February 9, 1973). She even represented Soviet but she was born in Soviet/Belarus.. But Im sure she was focused and tired.. She was also called for the swan and shes still in gymnastics in other ways even today.. It´s awesome that we react the same way.. :D:D Her eyes says more then words doesn´t it???
Prychemnie 4 months ago
@Prychemnie
true
MrTantraMan 4 months ago
komunih babi beruk natang setang celaka bahang tanoh pukimak..!!!!!! :D
terbangnova 4 months ago
Rossiya Svyachesnaya nasha derzhava, rossiya lyubimaya nasha strana...
oops...wrong anthem...I'm outta here.
Izkzmach 4 months ago
@Izkzmach
Were those the lyrics to the Russian anthem, I'm not Russian but I have heard the anthem and it sounds like what you typed.
BobDaGhetto 4 months ago
"GET THIS FUCKING ANTHEM OUT OF THE WAY! I AM TIRED AS FUCK!!"
LØL! I so love this anthem!
ixorafy 4 months ago
@ixorafy
Classic one liner and a certified genius move on my part. ;)
MrTantraMan 4 months ago in playlist Liked
Did anyone else notice that the Soviet team was evidently sponsored by Adidas.. ? =)
seulementmoi 4 months ago
soyuz nyerushimy respublik svobodnye splotila naveki velikaya rus da zdrastvuiyet sozdanny voley narodu.
TheGorale97 4 months ago
No one could predict that it was the final time that USSR and DDR (East Germany) joined the Olympic Games.
peterhmleung 5 months ago 22
@peterhmleung
Did you see the Luge, from the Vancouver Olympics where a German was going down the ice slide, and a fan in the crowd was waving a DDR flag?
Sismiques 2 months ago
@Sismiques
Or maybe it was the bobsled, one of those 2.
Sismiques 2 months ago
@peterhmleung
and all 3 flags will change in less then a 2 years ...
adakar83 2 weeks ago
Yeah! Fuck you South Korea, we'll sing what we wanna fucking sing? Problem? ARREST ME!
AtheismCentral 5 months ago
@Kamensky93 of course America cheated. Both sides wanted to be better than each other, even if that meant cheating.
elpervertos 5 months ago
they are probably full of steroids
elpervertos 5 months ago
@elpervertos to do gymnastics you do not need steroids or a lot of strength, the body needs to be flexible and agile, and have these attributes, it takes many, many years and hours of training. Stupid american tard, the Soviets have created 90% of modern gymnastics!!!
GravityPowerful 5 months ago
@GravityPowerful they totally cheated, everybody knows that.
elpervertos 5 months ago
Did someone say CP?
89murph 5 months ago
WE MISS YOU SSSR, COME BACK SOON, AMERICA SOON FALLS WITH THEIR OWN AFGHANISTAN CONTINUING THOUGH THEIR ECONOMY IS THAT BAD THAT THEIR EMPIRE WILL FUCKING FALL AND THE PEOPLE'S WORLD WILL AGAIN LEAD!
HateIronMaiden 5 months ago
I want my fucking EPIC FLAG BACK RUSSIA!
Slickpc 5 months ago
Prolly all drugged on steroids.
underbjorn 5 months ago
@underbjorn
or brakedrrugs to stunt their growth
MrTantraMan 5 months ago
@underbjorn these are not the americnas
joshuascerriwwe 5 months ago
Who's the 5th girl?
UnitedCommunists 6 months ago
@UnitedCommunists svetlana boginskaya
rocools 6 months ago
damn those commie girls are cute =)
adlerzwei 6 months ago
@adlerzwei lol
GravityPowerful 6 months ago
Wow, the Commies cleaned house in that competition!
u01mph 6 months ago
REACH FO VODKA TOOONIGGHTTTT!!!!!
HeroicAvenger96 6 months ago
i think they should have entered as the separate republics, made it a little more interesting
brettsworld99 6 months ago
The beauty and elegance of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc is in the heart of every Communist on earth.
UnitedCommunists 6 months ago
The looks on the gals:
1st one: Yay! I made it with my team
2nd one: USSR (English people can't get it right)
3rd one: I am so elated I want to cry.
4th one: singing the anthem
5th one: GET THIS FUCKING ANTHEM OUT OF THE WAY! I AM TIRED AS FUCK!!
MrTantraMan 7 months ago in playlist Russia Rocks 76
@MrTantraMan
1st - YAY wait im a communist? i dont kare! i won!!!!
2nd- "U-S-S-R"! haha, capitalists.
3rd- (cry)
4th- Soyuz nerushimy respublik snovbyh...
5th- im fukin tired i dont give a shit
HeroicAvenger96 7 months ago
@MrTantraMan
The 5th girl's face is just priceless!
UnitedCommunists 6 months ago 6
@UnitedCommunists
No shit
MrTantraMan 6 months ago
the girls says "U S S R" to her friends cause she thinks its funny how its said in english :p
tf2cheats 8 months ago
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fuck communism
YoungKoolness17 8 months ago
@YoungKoolness17 fuck nudity in america
international153 8 months ago
@international153 i agree fuck it
YoungKoolness17 8 months ago
@YoungKoolness17 anyway i'm russian but russia is no longer communist, anyway russian people are decent, cuz the winters are REALLY REALLY cold last winter was terribly cold - i wore thick clothes everyday
international153 8 months ago
@international153 you are not russian, you live in spain. you are bastardo, renegate, traitor, man with no motherland living like animal just to consume and to live in warm places like roach. I am russian, and I am communist and proud of that and I like winter too.
AlexanderTch 7 months ago
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international153 7 months ago
@YoungKoolness17 fuck capitalism and all bastards anti-communists like Hitler, Reagan and you. Long live to communism and brotherhood of people of working class.
AlexanderTch 7 months ago
@YoungKoolness17 Fuck you Fuck USA it is a failure like you!!!
Glory to the great Red Flag!!!
MaoistLeninistMarx 6 months ago
And the last time in any Olympics that those flags were use.
ohioiran122 9 months ago
i love how it has 3 communist flags Romania, East Germany and in first place the USSR.
MaoistLeninistMarx 9 months ago 44
@MaoistLeninistMarx isnt that modavian flag...?
hello72039 6 months ago
@hello72039 nor Romania look it up, moldova was part of the USSR.
MaoistLeninistMarx 6 months ago
@MaoistLeninistMarx i mean because moldova has the same shapes and color as rumania except they add the symbol.... thats why I thought thats modavian flag.
hello72039 6 months ago
@hello72039 don't worry about it, it is ok
MaoistLeninistMarx 6 months ago
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@hello72039 no* Romania look it up, moldova was part of the USSR.
MaoistLeninistMarx 6 months ago
девочки!
kloratis 10 months ago
0:8 U-ES-ES-AIR XD
GravityPowerful 1 year ago 4