GLENN GOULD SPIELT RICHARD WAGNER - SIEGFRIED IDYLL [1]

[StockhausenIsMyCat]

@berlinzerberus "disintegration of harmonic structures" was not meant in a derogatory way. I just meant that Wagner pushed the chromaticism to the outer limits of ambiguity. His harmonic suspensions and resolved cadences opened the way for Strauss, Mahler and eventually Schonberg. In this sense I see a disintegration of classical harmony. After all it was Schonberg who admitted that his emancipation of dissonance was a necessary consequence of Wagner harmony...

[berlinzerberus]

I think late Wagner´s harmonics had been much bolder than those of Strauss and particularly Mahler. Isn´t the chromatic harmony more an enrichment of the diatonic scale patterns in the sense of a complex enlargement. Think of Neapolitan chords and other harmonic deviations, harmonic shifts not diatonic functions had become important, shifts of the tonality also. The power of dissonances, yes, I agree that Schönbergs 'emancipation of dissonance was a necessary consequence etc'

[StockhausenIsMyCat]

I think that Gould extremely slow tempos in his last Wagner recordings (this included) merge well with the disintegration of harmonic structures of late Wagner...

[berlinzerberus]

Regarding 'Ring des Nibelungen' I think Wagner had much to do in using and integrating all the different Leitmotifs as a total work of art. In addition he used the chromatic harmony and I cannot see any disintegration of the harmonic structure of his late oevre. Alliteration, using leitmotifs and the chromatic harmonies made him a master of integration and therefore he became immortal in music history.

[ELBARBAPEDANA]

I love Gould!

Thank you very very much!!!!!

[BorisBo12]

very nice)