Combat Sanshou - Part 1: Striking

[ThePtno1]

sports san shou doesnt allow use of elbows. the more traditional sanshou does....i think

[BigN33dle]

I wasn't aware that elbow strikes were included in Sanshou. I only thought it was a Muay Thai technique. I am just getting interested in Kung Fu and I am just looking at different styles here and there.

On another note, I like the video.

[ptccm]

Glad to hear you like the video.

Elbows aren't allowed in sports Sanshou, but they are a big part of traditional sanshou in CMAs. Most styles have numerous elbow techniques. This video is about those things, not the sports version.

[boob00]

"It would be strange indeed had you seen Combat Sanshou in China as it hasn't been taught there yet."

err sanshou was developed by the chinese government...

[ptccm]

The comment was about "Combat Sanshou", meaning the material presented on the DVDs and nothing else. The Chinese government had nothing to do with that. I think you were talking about something else.

[wulfyson]

Next time get your partner geared-up and go full bore on him with strikes and takedowns. Chun Li's sanshou vids are still fresh in the mind of most people who've seen this kind of stuff.

[ptccm]

Hi Wulfyson,

Thank you, I'll tell my partner about your suggestion. I'm not sure he'll appreciate it though... :-) You might also want to google "chun li" and then "cung le". I think you meant the latter... :-)

[wulfyson]

He lacks the intensity of a sanshou fighter.

[ptccm]

I'm sorry to hear you didn't enjoy the clip. Please bear in mind that this is an instructional video, not a performance one. The goal is to allow viewers to learn techniques, not necessarily do them all out or very intense.

[martiallife]

This must be a comedy version of sanshou, I have lived in china for 20 years , but never seen people do it like that, in fact I am a chinese

[ptccm]

Hi,

It would be strange indeed had you seen Combat Sanshou in China as it hasn't been taught there yet.

Please consider that there are 6 DVDs in the Combat Sanshou series, with almost 12 hours of instruction on them. You form your judgment after seeing 44 seconds of footage taken out of context, without any explanation as to the why and what. Just something to consider.

All the best in your training.

[martiallife]

Thanks for the reply in a such a polite way, after my criticism, do not know how your skill is, but definitely you seem to be a good person,  I do not undersstand, why it is not taught in china if sanshou is from china

[ptccm]

I live in Europe so Combat Sanshou isn't taught in China yet. However, it combines techniques from traditional Chinese arts and Sanda with self defense as a goal. For more info on my background in these aspects, please visit my website.

[noobsaboot1]

Oh my god. Combat sanshou hasnt been taught in China??? Not sure how you worked that out. Sanshou is the comabat form of Kung Fu, no two ways about it. Whenever sanshou is taught it is combat.

This looks like a very watered down version of sanshou. I have trained sanshou in china for years now. This looks more like a weekend, Dad JKD style.

[ptccm]

Hi,

Please read the above replies carefully: The material *as structured and presented on these DVDs* is not taught in China. The separate components of it (sanda, hung chia pai, etc.) are.

"Combat Sanshou" is just the name given to the system on the DVDs. I'm well aware of what the PLA and Chinese schools teach under the name "sanshou". But that's not what I show on these DVDs. Some parts are similar, others different. I'm sorry to hear you disapprove.

Best of luck in your training.

[Aheyne]

Sanshou is the combat form of kung fu? That's the strangest thing I've ever heard.. Kung fu was made for war, not for sport.

[ptccm]

I can't really comment on what noobsaboot1 meant; your guess is as good as mine.

Thanks for stopping by.

[vovinamer23]

sanshou was from kung fu smarty pants lol chinese wanted to to get what ever they can that is useful for combat from kung fu.

[ptccm]

A Homer Simpson moment. :-)

[the5thdominion]

San Shou, taught as a system or series of concepts has good applications, but it is best utilized when combined with other arts, such as a style of kung fu, especially in the multi-animal systems (5, 8. & 12 animal styles). Combining San Shou training with kung fu and Chin Na, for example, is nothing new - it's a training method that's been used for centuries.

[ptccm]

Hi,

Combat Sanshou is indeed nothing new; I certainly don't claim to have invented anything. What it does offer is a bridge between competitive fighting (such as sports Sanshou) and traditional styles Sanshou applications to prepare practitioners for Street self defense. Thanks for your comments.

[thunderkarate]

Yes, basically Shanshou is a combat sport but its one of those styles that can be one of the most effective if you convert it to real combat.

[TheMightyMcClaw]

Isn't the whole point of San Shou that it's a combat sport?

[ptccm]

Hi,

I'd say yes and no but it probably depends on your definition of "combat". For instance, sports Sanshou is not really combat as it has rules and a referee. The name "Combat Sanshou" was chosen to differentiate it from the sports and military versions. But that's all it is, just a name.

[kempobrad]

doesn't sanshou basically mean freefighting anyway? its not such a specific thing. like people say this is kempo, but that isnt...kempo is just a word.

[ptccm]

Hi,

Yes it does indeed mean "free fighting". But even gets interpreted in many different ways. Generally speaking you can divide into military , sports and civilian/traditional sanshou. But there is lots of overlap and even more blurred lines. In the end, it doesn't really matter as much what you call the art you practice but more what you can do with it. At least that is how I view things. To each his own. We're all just students anyway, trying to practice and learn the best we can.

[kempobrad]

i agree, well said. i tell people all the time when they ask me what kempo is...it's just a word. lol the art may be called various terms. but as you said...doesn't matter much unless you're carrying on a specific lineage or something.