Derek Wall and Chris Horner with David Frost debate climate change

[natheyboi13]

@NwLdNuK hahaha same, only reason im watching this video. my economics lessons are so funny

[cienade]

Derek Wall, you are an idiot.

[elliot325325]

@cienade fuck you hes such a nice guy

[sabuhana2000]

Chris Horner is a smart, articulate man. If you come up against him in a debate you'd better know your stuff.

The greenie guy I thought was rude and unconvincing. There's so much on the pro-GW side now that isn't adding up. Everyone loves the planet but the truth is also important, as well as a healthy economy.

[MumblingMickey]

Oddly in all the confusion... nobody...has ever bothered to point out a solution... I mean the moey is flying around goodo! the time is 'supposed' to be running out... this debate has been going on 25 years... and not a single person has ever mentioned a 'solution' to this problem... that alone has me wondering why taxes are being lashed onto everything from fuel to waste disposal?

I know for a fact the local rubbish dump has fuck all to do with global warming...so why the increase in charges?

[MumblingMickey]

Wall needs to lay off the dope.... If he smokes any more he'll be personally responsible for another hole in the ozone layer!

[RedGreenKate]

I see the deniers end up using ad hominem attacks. The vast majority of scientists still think climate change at present is mostly man made.

A lot of the deniers get funding directly or indirectly from the oil industry.

mostly dumb ameriKKKans

[MumblingMickey]

"A lot of the deniers get funding directly or indirectly from the oil industry."

Lol... you need to take a look at the chairman of the IPCC... After all he is also chairman of TaTa and Teri which is basically Indias Coal industry... and he's building the worlds largest coal fired power station!

[duckbar2]

derek wall is a freakin moron

[juscurious]

This Derek Wall is as dumb as a box of rocks. He is what I like to call a sheeple. He follows the latest trends and doesn't understand the science. Anthroprogenic Global warming is a fraud. The climate is ALWAYS changing. It always has been changing. It use to be much warmer than today. Grapes were grown in the North of England. Greenland was colonized by the Vikings. Then it got cold. Did man cause this? No. Of course not. So why is man causing it now?

[Pauliemole]

Bovines put out more CO2 then the entire human race on the planet. Lets kill all the cows and have a barb-a-q

[jdtoothnail]

I think Derek's brain function is as slow as his speech. I have a PhD in Analytical Chemistry, and I know as well as anyone pursuing professional careers in the sciences, that science can't be used as an end-all to any and every argument, as if it's something that can never be questioned. Unfortunately, for issues such as evolutionary speciation and politically motivated issues such as global warming, there is a lot of money and power pushing a certain agenda. That's not good science.

[rigel1514]

Chris Horner owns Derek Wall. The green party representative doesn't understand the science.

[jklseattle]

The best part is when Horner's "cell phone" metaphor sails completely over the head of Derek Wall, and you hear Wall in the background slowly saying, "Ceelll Phooonnees?" Horner must've felt insulted for having to debate this with suck a poorly spoken and fragile buffoon.

[oneoffmanmental]

. In recent times, the latter has been evident as a consequence not of natural processes but of man-made pollution, through emissions of greenhouse gases. By altering the global energy balance, such mechanisms "force" the climate to change. Consequently, scientists call them "climate forcing" mechanisms.

- Manchester Metropolitan University

[Olster81]

didnt the effect of munitions factories after ww2 cause a noticeable change? (coldest winter in 50 yrs or somthing)

[invictus3942]

Dont worry mate human caused climate change does not exist its all down to the sun.

[Olster81]

in my opinion the debate as to whether it is purely natural or not is irellevant as we are still screwing the place up. Im not into the scientific debate as its unneccessary nonsense to distract peoiple from that fact. The earth is natural and so are we, covering the planet in concrete & machines however is nothing but a highway to hell,but its economics right,its just the way we need to live (-;

[Jombafomb]

Oneoffman....blah blah...

If it were true that our forcing c02 into the air is causing instability wouldn't that mean that the one degree increase in temperature that the earth underwent in the last 100 years would have been accellerated after the 1950's when there was an industrial boom? Instead the graphs show that it was a steady increase over the decade.

[Jombafomb]

Century not "decade"...

[oneoffmanmental]

1. I meant forcing in terms of climate science, not "forcing CO2"

2. Back up your claim that CO2 rises

3. There is not a steady rise over the century. Please reference the original graphs by Mann et al. not the cooked graphs by Durkin and Co.

[oneoffmanmental]

The Earth's climate changes when the amount of energy stored by the climate system is varied. The most significant changes occur when the global energy balance between incoming energy from the Sun and outgoing heat from the Earth is upset. There are a number of natural mechanisms that can upset this balance, for example fluctuations in the Earth's orbit, variations in ocean circulation and changes in the composition of the Earth's atmosphere.

[forkeat]

CO2 emission sources: Oceans-------59.5% Decaying vegitaion----17.9% Plant and animal respiration--17.9% Human made----4.7% (factories, cars, fireplaces, breathing, etc.) The human input of CO2 into the earth is insignificant compared to natural sources, i.e. 4.7% to 95.3%. Quit worrying about global warming and get some sleep.

[oneoffmanmental]

This is about forcing above and beyond the natural carbon cycle.

[ehouk1]

Everything other than 'Human made' in that list is carbon neutral, the overall effect change in CO2 is 0. With the human made emisions (which probably does not include breathing, i imagine this would be in animal respiration, also fireplace that burn wood would be carbon neutral) from burning fosil fuels are adding to the overall amount of CO2 in the climate, and causing the world to warm though a process we have known about since victorian times

[domndiane]

What astounds me is how this Derek Wall guy retains any shred of credibility or dignity. Really he's got some kind of queen-of-the-undead thing going on with a green spin! LOL. David Frost as with all 'skeptics' submit climate always has and always will change naturally but it dont stop this freak to keep jabbing at him calling him a 'denier'. My God how can anybody stand being in the same room with someone like Derek has got to have some real self control!

[simeetg]

is this going to be a real debate, or a Faux News debate?