The Goetia pt. 2 (a response to Tannhaus)

[StokesDaddy]

Its not that he rules over 29 Legions he RULETH LMAO ROFLMAO lol

[MATEOTL86]

Por favor, Jason. Fix the volume on your vids - - too low. Gracias

[IEATMETALHEADS]

why did tehron respond to this vid did you think tehron was tannhause

[nancydruid]

A book by Lon Milo Duquette called My Life With The Spirits includes some compelling accounts of his results from Goetic spirits.

[n0s1r]

Now, I don't want to be misconstrued as saying I believe in this sort of stuff 100% and take any and all of it's claims for face value.

I am just trying to point out that what is stated in that section of that book is indeed possible, while expressing my view that anybody with enough sense to actually pull some of it off should ALSO have enough sense to know what sort of reaction they will get if they talk about it.

[n0s1r]

On the note of "has Forax helped move the boundaries of Philosophy and Ethics forward" (not an EXACT quote) can you definitively say he hasn't? For all we know he could be responsible for EVERY advance in those respective fields. I now refer you back to my original point. If you were to attribute your insights to the doings of a "demon" the average person would marginalize you and your insights, so an openly admitted advance from such a source is almost an impossibility for that very reason.

[n0s1r]

To attempt to present a new twist to your question regarding if "Forax" has ever bestowed any gifts, I ask you to take these few things into consideration.

Let's say you had gotten yourself turned invisible, and you told somebody, what would be the result? If you were visible at the time they would think you were mad. Conversely if you WERE invisible at the time they would think that THEY were mad. If you appeared and reappeared in front of people they would attempt to rationalize it.

[sidragasum1]

Jason King... You are right, the goetia is bullshit... magick is bullshit... I believe in human stupidity... humans keep raising the bar for coming up with imaginary friends rather than accepting that we should work as one organism and do what is good for all instead of some. Any "magicians" can go fuck off, idiots.

[BRANOFNF]

Tbh like, okay first off, this video made me laugh, a lot. So fair play there 'MASSIVE PHALLUS' indeed. Though, Crowley himself talked about an experiment in magick where he found himself becoming invisible. No, I can't say it was because of Foras, but I'm sure many systems claim that they can in one way or another make you invisible. Maybe it just effects people's ability to notice you? I dunno'. Anyway, just because one thing doesn't make sense to you, doesn't mean the whole system is fucked.

[TheOneAndOnlyLevi]

where can you find this book?

[TheOneAndOnlyLevi]

ahahah i like this guy he's funny

[Arkanix]

To further relate to the medatative aspects of the Goetia along with shamanistic magic, it's like being in a native american sweat lodge, and recieving visions. It's done through meditation, but the body dehydrates and halucinates. Now while this is a biological responce, the resulting visions unlock some form mental stimuli which then grants some form of enlightenment that needs interpretation after the ritual is done. Thus it is similar to the Goetia.

[Arkanix]

Ummm...don't you look at it as interpretation. It's very open to thought process. Actually...the 75 were supposed to be different chunks of your mind. When you invoke the Goetia (Which you are promouncing right by the way) you are actually not summoning Demons, you are apparently using meditation and ritual to open portions of your mind, in which these forms of enlightenment may occure.

[InkBleedsDeeper]

This is exactly what I realized as I studied the Goetia.

It's like reading any other science from so long ago and accepting that that's the way it is without taking the time to think exactly what is being conveyed.

This video is very subjective, as is any other thought on the matter...

[Arkanix]

Yes. It's strange. Most people forget that Soloman was "The Wise". Many people forgot that through the opening of these portions of the mind, wisdom is then granted. If one seeks to learn about minerals, then one must open their mind to educate themselves.

The Goetic magic is mainly the manifestation of ones psyche, and the reason why these demons have a face is because the mind gave them shape in visions. Not much different than most religions, and similar to shamanic magic and totems

[brooklynborn]

Geez this guy is really angry.

[lonepantherAK]

brilliant

[lonepantherAK]

bullshit all thats whiny newage or xtiany fear-based crap.

[thrashed80]

shut up faggot. you are retarded, see a psychiatrist.

[thrashed80]

Hail Mighty JASON 666 KING! We need this. And all who oppose shall perish in flames(that includes the weak tarouk).

[adrian5118]

HUGE COCK

[dorianXsapiens]

I heartily agree. Hear, hear.

[tannhaus]

I responded via video

[andy32capp]

They're not ready for you yet, man, they're just not ready!

[ashtarothreveals]

If I move a object with my mind,than why can I not refract the physical properties of light. In other words move the light around me.

[ashtarothreveals]

Tou obviously don't know who I am.first of all I do not live with my parents.I own my own house,and have own it for Quite some time. Also I bought a peice of undevelop Land for 1,600 hundred bucks,and resold it ,10 years latter, for 36,500.

[ashtarothreveals]

forax can make you invisible,if you call the right one. he exist in the lower worlds of the astral plane. the hell worlds.

[jason666king]

Well, obviously he made YOU invisible, lol. But I doubt that's what you meant. I must ask, why not call on mighty Forax and rob a bank . . . instead of living at home with mommy and daddy? Shit dude, you kids with your JoS mentalities make me want to puke.

[ashtarothreveals]

We know that spirits can move objects around.and they can condensify in to clouds. then why can they not refract the physical pproperties of light.

[dOUBLEDDOULBE]

hail to the cock!!!!!

[darksoulsinside]

You know,as for the 21st century,i'm wondering when will we start manifesting thought-forms without using or creating new paradigms.

[jason666king]

Thought forms are manifested all day long, every day of the week. But the manifestation is generally too broad in scope to be understood for what it is.

[satanicinternational]

LMAO... Crowley had some weird things going on. Sashquash with massive cocks....good times..; P

[Mystwicca]

LOL The lost treasure of shambala :D

[stryng]

oh man, massive cock, i pissed myself laughing man. So the main point for me is why don't all the people like you jason critics, magicks connoisseurs whatever, join all fkn together in a nice meeting and work to achieve a goetia version for the 21 century?

Shouldn't it be updated according to the new world? I also think it fkn does, because i kinda relate to what jason said back there, like mans with a big cock, fkn invisible. Work it out towards a common goal instead of against it .

[Kenesis27]

Great video. Could it be that the goetia resemble things metaphorically, that make men lesser than what men should ethically be? If this entire book is figurative, what would legions represent? Or is this sheer christian grandeur?

[TaR0uk]

lulz 5 stars

[tannhaus]

Second, I'm most likely going to give you a response, but my iMac is in the shop for 5-7 days. So, I'll either make do with text comments when I'm not on the iPhone or wait until then

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[jason666king]

Take your time, a rushed video would likely turn out like this one . . .

[tannhaus]

First, thanks for the response and I apologize for not getting your style and references. As far as I know, that may have been the first video of yours I've seen. So, I took it at face value. I'm glad you didn't take my video as someone else did, as calling you an "immature ignoramus" because even though I thought that one thing was immature (and didn't know the story behind it nor your style) and thought you missed some points, I never went so far as to accuse you of anything of the sort.

[jason666king]

No harm done. You've been far more civil than I ever will be, lol.

[synch1216]

LOL- 5 stars.

The most common reply from people about their systems is that it "Works".

But works for what? Does it do what it says it does? If you buy a CD from an artist that's supposed to be hot- and you hate the music but use the CD as a good tray to break weed up on: can we say that the CD worked for its intended purpose?Srry 4 da Xample,I'm still bitter from a recent experience but yea. BTW,if its supps'd 2 B about "specific detail n' particulars"Y do so many demons have da same powers?

[jason666king]

Why so many "demons" with the same "powers"? Probably because the Christian that wrote it had a limited imagination . . .

[BespokeGroupUK]

we don't need to create more paradigms, we need to analyse what we have and use the scientific method to analyse what is actually happening when we do "metaphysical" stuff. and todo so rationally and intelligently with refernce to the natural sciences and that which is known rather then believed

[jason666king]

I disagree. Such a reappraisal would entail a new (second order) paradigm. I believe we need both first and second order reappraisals . . .

[nosferotica1]

Magick and the metaphysical are governed by the right and the creative and dreaming mind, not by the left and logical, reasoning mind.

It's not something you can logically explain.

[jason666king]

I disagree here also. The rational/intuitive split occurs beneath the level of operative magick. In other words, both are required for skillful means. Remember, ALL categories are left brain-rational. Neither operates independently (at least in a non-psychotic brain), rather both combine to produce the Vision.

[BespokeGroupUK]

Then I may be a voice crying in the wilderness, but i will still continue to promote the rational mindset

[nosferotica1]

scientifically prove the existence of God/Satan/Demons/ghost/magick?

All those things require faith. It's like what you said about the goetia, it will work if you believe it will, not because it's been proven scientifically.

[TheZebu]

Not really. You can believe that King Bael can "maketh thee go invisible" all you want, but the fact remains is that you'll still be quite visible in our 3 physical dimensions. Don't try using it to sneak into the girl's locker room either.

I've said before, the Goetia CAN work, but only if you dramatically change the underlying paradigm like Crowley did (who regarded them as simply manifestations of his subconscious, rather than literal beings that would grant you wealth and knowledge. )

[nosferotica1]

Wasn't exactly what I was talking about but sure.... Nice clarification.