it is not fair to the xh a1. The video is being heavily compressed to fit in youtube which degrades about everything. The flip mino hd's compression is just awful. How do you think they fit hd video onto a 4 gb internal memory? For people looking for budget camcorder they should get a canon vixia series such as the hv30 (and an external mic). I recently bought an hv30 (as well as other accessories) to move to hd from my sd professional xl1.
Brilliant! Thank you for showing what can be done with ordinary low-cost consumer equipment. As we guitarists say, you don't need a $4,000 custom-shop hot rod to sound good because, after all, "The music is in your fingers." I've got the Flip Mino HD and it is spectacular.
@CammonRandle From what I can gather, it appears he used an iPod nano with an external microphone (it looks like the Belkin TalkTune Stereo for iPod; $50.00ish on Amazon), and then would have synced the audio and video in Final Cut. I'm only making assumptions here, but that would be my guess. The reviews for the Belkin mic seem to make it out to be a better microphone than what is built-in the Flip (which, I will admit, is pretty decent unless there's wind or tons of background noise).
I did so much enjoy your posting Kirk. YouTube unfortunately loses the HD factor, my interest is how a consumer HD camcorder compares with the Prosumer Canon. Given the right light conditions, similar codecs etc, there is damn all difference (in fact sometimes the simpler lens in the Consumer device may yield better results and your video sometimes demonstrates this). Is it about someone who really knows what they are doing and the extra degree of control they may get with the more exotic cam?
I can't believe more people haven't commented on this video, you should post it under the film and animation category so more people can see it.
Obviously the XHA1 will get a better picture but in terms of youtube and small screen media, it doesn't pay to use a high cost camera, BTW nice little setup with your ipod DAT.
When you show the FLIP taped to the side of the XHA1...what camera are you using to shoot that footage?
Anyway...good job and thanks for the comparison video!
nice iPod mic.
BlackholeLtd 1 year ago
Thank you for this video, I am just entering the foray of filming for YouTube as a side venture. Trying to learn all I can!
Witchymel 1 year ago
it is not fair to the xh a1. The video is being heavily compressed to fit in youtube which degrades about everything. The flip mino hd's compression is just awful. How do you think they fit hd video onto a 4 gb internal memory? For people looking for budget camcorder they should get a canon vixia series such as the hv30 (and an external mic). I recently bought an hv30 (as well as other accessories) to move to hd from my sd professional xl1.
provid1234 2 years ago
@provid1234 The whole point of it was to show that you DIDN'T need to spend big bucks to get a decent film/video from your efforts.
Witchymel 1 year ago
Brilliant! Thank you for showing what can be done with ordinary low-cost consumer equipment. As we guitarists say, you don't need a $4,000 custom-shop hot rod to sound good because, after all, "The music is in your fingers." I've got the Flip Mino HD and it is spectacular.
Moldrid1026 2 years ago 2
Out standing, well done.
nocturnlbyn8chr 3 years ago
My question is what did you do for audio on the flip version of the video?
CammonRandle 3 years ago
@CammonRandle From what I can gather, it appears he used an iPod nano with an external microphone (it looks like the Belkin TalkTune Stereo for iPod; $50.00ish on Amazon), and then would have synced the audio and video in Final Cut. I'm only making assumptions here, but that would be my guess. The reviews for the Belkin mic seem to make it out to be a better microphone than what is built-in the Flip (which, I will admit, is pretty decent unless there's wind or tons of background noise).
rocklikeatree 1 year ago
I did so much enjoy your posting Kirk. YouTube unfortunately loses the HD factor, my interest is how a consumer HD camcorder compares with the Prosumer Canon. Given the right light conditions, similar codecs etc, there is damn all difference (in fact sometimes the simpler lens in the Consumer device may yield better results and your video sometimes demonstrates this). Is it about someone who really knows what they are doing and the extra degree of control they may get with the more exotic cam?
DOBM 3 years ago
Kirk,
Really exceptional. Thank you for producing this. You've demonstrated and underscored a key polemic I've been trying to articulate for months.
I'd love to see what you're able to produce with the mino and some low-cost, low fuss lights!
Cheers,
Doug Flather
DouglasFlather123 3 years ago
A very well done experiment. I was very impressed with how high a quality video you can get with a pocket camcorder. Thanks for making this vid.
greggh 3 years ago
I can't believe more people haven't commented on this video, you should post it under the film and animation category so more people can see it.
Obviously the XHA1 will get a better picture but in terms of youtube and small screen media, it doesn't pay to use a high cost camera, BTW nice little setup with your ipod DAT.
When you show the FLIP taped to the side of the XHA1...what camera are you using to shoot that footage?
Anyway...good job and thanks for the comparison video!
natures1stgreen 3 years ago