In terms of warship production, I think the fact that Japan armed itself well before the US turned into a major drawback once the shooting war took place. Because the US was getting its production sorted out later than Japan, its production could match whatever that was required for its campagin requirements. But this would have been harder to do for Japan as it was pretty much stuck with whatever it had built up earlier with little prospect of increase in production.
I dont hate US for Dropping 2 A-Bomb. Because after seeing what happen in Germany could happen in Japan. But dont you dare think i like american coz of that. I never do like America more that Japan. No offence intended. And yes American was better back in WWII, unlike Japan know nothing but greed for more land. But now i look at America differently.
in WW2 and today ,,If US really wants a war with Asia they better bring their own casket for every man they sent in. The 30K lost in Iraq and Afghanistan will look like a drop in a bucket. Asian countries will sacrifice 1Mil men to protect 1 inch of their soil, how many American is the US government willing to sacrifice for 1 inch of Asian soil? Iraq and Afghanistan is only a taste of what is going to happen. Keep pushing the East. and yes i almost forgotten they too have nuclear weapons..
The three Yamato class warships should have been carriers instead of battleships. They would have been the biggest carriers ever built, but Japan didn't realize the mistake until they started to build the third ship, which was to be a carrier named the Shinano. Nevertheless, it was too late in the war, and it was sunk by torpedoes before they could finish her. They could have had 3 of the largest carriers in the world at that time, but battleship vanity lead them astray.
obviously some of you aren't to savy on the USN battleships aren;t in service anymore if you study the land battles of the Pacific you would see why we used the atomic bomb there was no surrendering
@XiangXinWoMenHui really? we were bombing japan more and more every day with no resistance the reason we created the bomb was because we didn't want the Russians joining the war for us and if it was still going on by November then they would help us and we didn't want that because they agreed to make Poland several other small american allies communist nations. we were on the verge of defeating japan but the finish them off in the amount of time they wanted they needed the bomb
I call for the Battleship Yamato to be rebuilt to it's exact spec's to restore national pride in a country that has suffered so much. Thumbs up if you agree.
@krangturboslank which we created...which is what won us the war the revolutionary war wasn't won by colonists muskets won it there are several ways a people didn't win something and something they used did so shut your mouth with that smart ass comment because we did win the war better not say we didn't win the war in front of a war veteran...
@ulooklikeadope you do realize that the A-bomb was in development in Germany, however they just didn't have the resource and did not follow Einsteins theory, due to him being Jewish, when the Americans/UK/the allies found out about the A-bomb they decided to study it, figuring out how to succeed, eventually they did, oh and also, Nazi scientists actually helped to develop it.
You will likely see gunships make a return in the future. Railgun technology being developed by the U.S navy will allow guns to be fired with a 200km range. This will bring back fast destroyers armed with accurate guns.
@southcoastdub Most likely result of Iowa vs. Yamato - Iowa with her superior radar fire control would knock out Ymato's fire control first. After that Yamato would be sitting duck.
They Sacrfice the YAmato.. how fool commandants.. im sure they know the possibility of air attack.... but they just say "Go Ahead, Sacrifice that ship no matter what happens we should win this war!"
Problem with building a battleship of that magnitude is that it also becomes a BIG target that the enemy WILL defeat. One is not enough, if they had 10 of them that would have been a different matter. Then the enemy wouldn't have had the resources to take them on. It was the same for Bismarck, all of the British Navy wanted a piece of it !!
@siashimi You may be right it was the best pure battleship ever built but it was next to obsolete. As even the Japanese mariner noted himself, the Yamato's trump card, the big guns, were only useful fighting other battleship 1 on 1. None of the major battles in the pacific had that kind of thing; battleships were there to protect the carriers and that was about it.
@siashimi It did fight ship to ship once in Leyte Gulf. For unknown reasons, it turned away during the battle against a few 'tin cans' of the U.S. Navy. Not sure if it was her or the other ships that sank the escort carriers and destroyers that were lost that day.
Yamato was indeed a "fortress" on the sea.....but.......no one will ever know how she would have fared against the newer, faster, American battleships with their radar directed gunnery. The slower speed of Yamato(24-27kts), slow loading time and mediocre accuracy of the 18" guns, suggests she might have been easy meat for an opponent like Missouri, North Carolina, or Massachusetts. Bigger she was.......technologically superior she was not. And her armor wasn't impervious to 16" shells.
@Lex5576 Yamato is only 5 knots slower than Iowa..... And faster than any carrier Japan feilded (with exception to Shinano) And Iowa's Radar Fire Control was not fool proof. South Dakota used the same system, which failed when she was struck by a 6 inch shell and she was firing her shells blindly at targets. and Yamato will hit her Yamato would then out class Iowa in every way. Not to mention no one on Iowa could likely opperate her Range Finders.... But who can say, she is rusted pile of scrap.
@Fischer0Dude By then the USN had mastered radar-directed fire. See Surigao Strait if you don't believe it. Especially in a night engagement, radar is a crushing advantage. South Dakota's systems failed not due to battle damage but a mistake made by an engineer (I'm assuming you mean the action at Guadalcanal).
There is also the small issue that there were 4 Iowa-class BBs vs only 2 Yamato-class (1 by 1945).
@yujinchia You are right, but when consider the fact that when ever technology fails shit hits the fan and bad, often times the simpler, more heavy duty tech is superior. Not to mention it is unlikely any Americans would know how to operate her antique range finders (a by product of technology. With out her Radar Fire Control, Iowa is grossly inferior to Yamato. The 18.1s are much more accurate than people give them credit. But like I said, Yamato is a rusting pile of scrap.
@Fischer0Dude This is straying into sheer conjecture of course, but I'd argue the Iowa class would still be a pretty good match without radar. The Yamato had heavier armor but not heavy enough to stop 16" AP shells, and it was at least 6 knots slower. That means the iowa could control the entire engagement; they could choose when and from where to attack and, if they wanted to, they could simply break off and outrun the Yamato. It's also harder to hit a faster target.
@USExceptionalism Yamato was the pride of the Japanese, even more so after the sinking of Musashi. Yamato was too precious to risk in a battle. Also, little tid bit for fun, crew from the Gambler Bay reported a huge hit, larger than any other shell that hit her. If you read the varying evidence, it is possible it was a 18.1 shell that hit at a range of 30 - 35 000 yards at night. A lucky shot, but a hit never the less.
@Fischer0Dude A ship too "precous" to put into harms way is worthless. Yammie high tailed after seeing a horizon full of a "crusiers" and "fleet carriers" at Leyte. Gambier Bay was hit by an 8" shell to the engine room and numberous smaller calibers. The rest you tell of is myth. If she had been hit by taht large caliber shell there would not have benn 800 survivosrs
@krixtorei Listen fool. The purppse of a navy is to go into harm's way and put the enemy on the bottom according to John Paul Jones. You're semen drunk. Big Dix in the mouth are bad for your health
@Lex5576 The problem with the Yamato and Musashi was that they were never used in combat until Leyte Gulf. By that time, they would be going up against combat proven crews where Y & M still had yet to see their baptism of fire. Remember, when the Musashi was finally hit at Leyte, the reports from the pilots stated she was a new ship, and stated there were two of them.
@Lex5576 armour on board yamato was built to shrug of 18inch shells but not 260 us warplanes.THIS was one big ship you would not want to be on receiving end of 18.1 inch shell it was biggest battle ship in world god rest its sailors
@motorguzzi100....Only the main turrets "might" be able to shrug off 16" shells. The theory was never proven. Being imprevious to 16" shells is one thing.....but surviving the immense concussion inside one of those turrets after taking a direct hit is something entirely different. The 25" thick turret of the Yamato may have been physically impenetrable.....but the occupants inside would have been reduced to badly mangled corpses. You can never rule out the human factor in battle.
@CaptHawkeye I agree. I'd say it had the greatest potential, but with the action it did see, it was never credited with actually sinking any ships at all.
it would have been very interesting to see this monster in action as she was originally intended; against another battleship 'slugging' it out on the line. It is astounding that a navy (Japan's) that had the foresight to use carriers in the beginning still believed that a battleship was the answer by war's end. Thanks for posting
it would have been very interesting to see this monster in action as she was originally intended; against another battleship 'slugging' it out on the line. Thanks for posting
@happysplinters It would delay it for about 1 hour. If she succeeded to beach itself near Okinawa, it would become perfect stationary practice target for B-29 bombers against which she had no defense whatsoever.
I said, a study says that the two are equally strong, I have not seen the study but one of my friends no idea where or when but one can see that both are equally strong because time is of the guns not on how many inches have. The USS Iowa has 16 inches, the IJN Yamato 18, the Iowa-resistant lighter grenades, the Yamato has added a lot of heavy shells but they are what is seen as strong!
there is no point in questioning who suffered more inside this war. it is always good to mourn everyone who fought. they cared for there people back home. they cared enough to give there lives. mourn the kamikaze, and the Americans. mourn civilians killed. but take the war as a reminder never to start such a conflict again. pity the living, but do not pity the dead. they can't feel you. mourn them, do not wallow in their loss.
@crashrj543 Um, no, sorry, I can't mourn a "warrior" who committed the atrocities that the Japanese soldier did in China, Korea, across the South Pacific, everywhere their foul boots made landfall. Never. The Bushido code that produced those monsters should not be rewarded by mourning those bastards. They should rot in a well deserved hell alongside their Nazi SS soul brothers. My father fought them in the Solomons, and I have the photos and firsthand accounts to back up my opinion.
I think, that if it wasn't a women narrating, it wouldn't be so much complaning about it, couse let's face it, we men don't want women to have anything to do with war.
ähm the iowa was the world largest battleship the iowa had got 270meters and the yamato 263meters and a srudy said the iowa and the yamato was the world strongest battleship
@NavalFroces Yamato outgunned the Iowa class. Had better air defence, larger crew, more dissplacement. Learn what 'largest' means, its not just about how long they were. I done some searching and can find no trace of any study claiming the Iowa class had the same fire power as the Yamato.
@ELITEkaos Bigger guns doesn't mean "outgunned". Most likely outcome: Iowa with it's superior radar fire control and faster rate of fire would knock out Yamato's fire control system. After which Yamato would be sitting duck.
@ssmusic214 Not really. In order for the Iowa to lock on its target, she is risking herself getting on Yamato's range.
Mark IV's didn't do well in actual combat. USS Washington accuracy was 10% when she "snuck" behind IJN Kirishima (out of 80-plus shells shot, only 9 made its mark). Those radar are too sensitive. SoDak's radar was knocked out by a 6 inch shell, she was firing wildly and off target.
@OperationEndGame In ACTUAL COMBAT At the Battle of Surigao Straigt West Virginia hit Yamashiro from 22.8 km away with her VERY FIRST SALVO! Entire jap fleet was wiped out.
Also in ACTUAL COMBAT the ONLY time what Yamato was involved into ship to ship battle (Battle of Samar) her performance was total disaster. Under conditions of total naval superiority she wasn't credited by Jap command for sinking a SINGLE US ship.
@ssmusic214 Fuso was already bleeding from torpedos launched by the PT boats before the US battleships ever fired a salvo the PT's provided the range for the big guns. the Southern Fleet had no room to form a battle line since they were bottlenecked in Surigao Strait. .... Mark IV radar were not accurate as people would like to believe -- See USS Washington vs. IJN Kirishima... Only 10% direct hit.
@OperationEndGame Scoring direct hit with very first shot from 22.8 Km away is MORE ACCURATE as anything else ever recorded in naval warfare up to that time. And US PT boats failed to score single hit on Jap fleet. And forming battle line had nothing to do with acquiring firing solution on the target. Japs never even fired back and faled to score a single hit on US battleships.
@OperationEndGame Fuso wasn't "bleeding". It blew up and broke in two after attack by US destroyers. She was never even near US Battleship line at the battle of Surigao Strait.
@OperationEndGame That's what I said! Fuso blew up and broke in two before Jap fleet ever came near US Battleship line. Her fate had no relation to Yamashiro and the rest of Jap fleet action with US battleships.
@OperationEndGame Forming battle line was absolutely irrelevant in the case of Battle of Samar. Japs had such an overwhelming superiority over US that had no Battleships or even Cruisers. Yamato ran away from single US destroyer firing torpedo spread at her. And than got lost in the fog and rain squall and couldn't find her way back to battle scene before it was all over. Disastrous performance! Certainly not a sign of "greatest ship afloat".
@ssmusic214 It is relevant to form a battle line so all ship captains can coordinate with one another. Once Kurita ordered a general attack - the only plausible reason why Kurita made this decision was due to fatigue and stress (he lost his flagship Atago near Palawan and Musashi while transiting into San Bernardino). He was no longer thinking straight due those conditions. And considering he never got the word from Ozawa that Halsey was successfully lured out to open sea. Continued....
@OperationEndGame Wrong! Kurita's fleet was in anti-aircraft formation. It would took too long to form the battle line while US carriers were trying to retreat behind rain squall oncoming from the East. And battle line wouldn't make any difference considering that US ships were totally outclassed and outgunned.
Outcome of the battle was decided by disastrous over all performance of Japanese fleet including Yamato and VERY BAD gunnery targeting.
@ssmusic214 In Kurita's mind, he also thought he was caught in a pincer move between the 3rd Fleet and 7th Fleet. If Ozawa broke radio silence, the whole outcome would have been different. The tin cans were very lucky. But Kurita also had a good reason why he decided to pull back -- it was illogical for him to shell empty transport ships on Leyte's coast, they were already several hours behind schedule.
@OperationEndGame Nonsense! If Kurita succeeded in wiping out Taffy 3 that would leave US land invasion without air support, supplies, reinforcements, etc.... That would have been catastrophe.
Pretty much any book that features the class will list where it was built, and its on various websites too. Yamato's construction is notable because of the work the Japanese did to expand the facilities to build her, and then to hide her while she was being built before the war.
@phoneloan Hardly! It was the end of deranged militarist lunatic cast in Japan. Japan as the country has been doing quite well without them for last 60 years.
@ssmusic214 That's because the USA helped the Japanese out after we dropped the atomic bomb on them to end the war. The USA has been helping Japan ever since the end of the war since we felt sorry for them. Basically, just like Germany and France, the reason these countries thrive and live in freedom today from international threats is because of the USA. Don't bite the hand that feeds!!!!!!
actually no, US did not give much assistance to the reconstruction of Japan, because they were from a different race and Germany was top priority at the time.
Do you think American public will accept aiding a former enemy who started the war? Do you think Truman will do that, just after becoming a president and haven`t done much to show his leadership?
It doesn't matter what I may think or even what you may think. History shows us that the United States poored billions, thats right billions, of dollars into the reconstruction and reorginization of Japan. The Japanese people today owe their economic success to the top to bottom reconstruction after the war that was only made possible through American dollars. The facts about this are very clear, the Japanese loved McArthur after the war for his work and help rebuilding.
United States assistance totaled about US$1.9 billion during the occupation, or 4% of GNP in that period. About 59% of this aid was in the form of food, 15% in industrial materials, and 12% in transportation equipment. United States grant assistance, however, tapered off quickly in the mid-1950s.
Much of their success resulted from its highly skilled labor force and wars in Korea and Vietnam, and the Japanese public at the time of the occupation had mixed views for McArthur.
US assistance totalled $2.44 billion to Japan by the mid 1950's. Considering that the US spent a total of $13 billion under the Marshal plan that is a lot of money. I don't know what you are trying to get at but US assistance after the way was crucial to the later success of Japan. Saying that the Japanese labor force was highly skilled following the war is a stretch given Japans feeble economic output during the war and loss of industrial during the war.
@BamFor07 ... ahh also plz dont forget.. ship building.. korea, taiwan and japan's economies exploded from ship building.. McArthur wanted to kill that. he didnt XD ..
@eine52 I hate to say this, but Japan's attack on us was probably the bloody nose we needed to 'Get Modern'. Otherwise, we would not have lifted out of our depression. War equals money, sad to say. It kicked our economy into overdrive, and at the same time we strengthened our military, allowing for us to openly help Britain in a war they needed us in, as they were no match for SHITLER.
Helping Japan was a human thing to do postwar, and gained us a friend.
@ssmusic214 , they were most likely comparing her to the most prevalent US battleships at the time she was commissioned, the old WW1-vintage battlewagons like the Pennsylvania and Arizona which were only about 32,000 tons.
@Bzamora45.....Thats no quite correct...at the time, with the sinkings at pearl harbor, the pacific fleet was just that....the old WWI battlewagons....the 16" gunned North Carolina class...the USS North Carolina and USS Washington entered service in the US navy in April and May 1941 respectfully, BEFORE the attack...They were in the atlantic when pearl happened and were soon transfered. followed from march to august 1942 by the 4 fast 16"gunned wagons of the South Dakota class..
@ssmusic214 They use the ratio of the size of the average Japanese man against that of an average American as compared to the sizes of the ships. With scaling it comes out very close
@askjiir do you mean that those 115 aircraft ended up as kamikaze planes? it sounds like your saying they are a class of plane or something...they werent built for that :P
@SoldierTR70 ok done. we've had an american civil war. were 11 states fromed their own country and we went to war with them on our own homeland. and what about the revolutionary war. or the war of 1812? we've had 3 war's on our homeland. so you stfu.
In terms of warship production, I think the fact that Japan armed itself well before the US turned into a major drawback once the shooting war took place. Because the US was getting its production sorted out later than Japan, its production could match whatever that was required for its campagin requirements. But this would have been harder to do for Japan as it was pretty much stuck with whatever it had built up earlier with little prospect of increase in production.
Waterflux 2 weeks ago
I dont hate US for Dropping 2 A-Bomb. Because after seeing what happen in Germany could happen in Japan. But dont you dare think i like american coz of that. I never do like America more that Japan. No offence intended. And yes American was better back in WWII, unlike Japan know nothing but greed for more land. But now i look at America differently.
AnimeGod1995 2 weeks ago
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in WW2 and today ,,If US really wants a war with Asia they better bring their own casket for every man they sent in. The 30K lost in Iraq and Afghanistan will look like a drop in a bucket. Asian countries will sacrifice 1Mil men to protect 1 inch of their soil, how many American is the US government willing to sacrifice for 1 inch of Asian soil? Iraq and Afghanistan is only a taste of what is going to happen. Keep pushing the East. and yes i almost forgotten they too have nuclear weapons..
krangturboslank 3 weeks ago
USA fags....read real history..not propaganda nato shit...
krangturboslank 3 weeks ago
@krangturboslank U mad?
Jdaki1 3 weeks ago
The three Yamato class warships should have been carriers instead of battleships. They would have been the biggest carriers ever built, but Japan didn't realize the mistake until they started to build the third ship, which was to be a carrier named the Shinano. Nevertheless, it was too late in the war, and it was sunk by torpedoes before they could finish her. They could have had 3 of the largest carriers in the world at that time, but battleship vanity lead them astray.
JBC814 1 month ago
obviously some of you aren't to savy on the USN battleships aren;t in service anymore if you study the land battles of the Pacific you would see why we used the atomic bomb there was no surrendering
namvet7275 1 month ago
Yep Yamota was fucked.400 planes O.o
lord1night1wish 1 month ago
@XiangXinWoMenHui really? we were bombing japan more and more every day with no resistance the reason we created the bomb was because we didn't want the Russians joining the war for us and if it was still going on by November then they would help us and we didn't want that because they agreed to make Poland several other small american allies communist nations. we were on the verge of defeating japan but the finish them off in the amount of time they wanted they needed the bomb
raidersfootball20 1 month ago
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I call for the Battleship Yamato to be rebuilt to it's exact spec's to restore national pride in a country that has suffered so much. Thumbs up if you agree.
macktheknife888 1 month ago
@krangturboslank which we created...which is what won us the war the revolutionary war wasn't won by colonists muskets won it there are several ways a people didn't win something and something they used did so shut your mouth with that smart ass comment because we did win the war better not say we didn't win the war in front of a war veteran...
raidersfootball20 1 month ago
@raidersfootball20 You usafags were way too scared of Imperial Chink's power, so you created the bomb, if not, you'd have lost the war,
XiangXinWoMenHui 1 month ago
Why is this female captain obvious narrating?
RogerVhees 1 month ago
@RogerVhees its for the visually impaired.
coronalwave 1 month ago
atomic bomb win the wor,not americans.
krangturboslank 1 month ago
@krangturboslank No, the combination of Russia's manpower and US' industrial might won the war.
NezbittheGreyKitten 1 month ago
@krangturboslank Ever here of the Manhattan Project? It was the Americans with the UK and Canada that developed the A-Bomb fool!
ulooklikeadope 1 week ago
@ulooklikeadope you do realize that the A-bomb was in development in Germany, however they just didn't have the resource and did not follow Einsteins theory, due to him being Jewish, when the Americans/UK/the allies found out about the A-bomb they decided to study it, figuring out how to succeed, eventually they did, oh and also, Nazi scientists actually helped to develop it.
Germany could've succeeded fool!
bloodhound2239 4 days ago
You will likely see gunships make a return in the future. Railgun technology being developed by the U.S navy will allow guns to be fired with a 200km range. This will bring back fast destroyers armed with accurate guns.
TheAce1082 1 month ago
@TheAce1082 I've always thought that the standard 5" gun was much too small for destroyers and cruisers. It should be an 8".
JBC814 1 month ago
Was it big for It´s time? Becuse It doens´t look that big compared to todays battleships. And how big was it compared to Bismarck?
Nefus1988 1 month ago
@Nefus1988 it still is the biggest battleship every built. Today, battleships are mostly obsolete and aircraft carriers rule the seas.
TheAce1082 1 month ago
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JBC814 1 month ago
@Nefus1988 It was 20,000 tons bigger than the Bismarck and/or any American battleship. Our biggest battleship was the 45,000 ton Iowa.
JBC814 1 month ago
Iowa class vs yamato would of been a pretty even match. However, if the US would of feilded the Montana class yamato would be a Swiss cheese ship
southcoastdub 3 months ago
@southcoastdub Most likely result of Iowa vs. Yamato - Iowa with her superior radar fire control would knock out Ymato's fire control first. After that Yamato would be sitting duck.
ssmusic214 2 months ago
I would've found it interesting to see survivors of both sides of the battle meeting today, shaking hands. It would be a great thing to see.
BFCrusader 3 months ago 2
400 planes v 1 battleship. 2 nukes against millions of casualties.
n then ppl nowadays insist on a 1v1. wtf
laughinbudda01 3 months ago
They Sacrfice the YAmato.. how fool commandants.. im sure they know the possibility of air attack.... but they just say "Go Ahead, Sacrifice that ship no matter what happens we should win this war!"
chroniclez13 3 months ago
a white elephant that was never used properly.
TheRetirednavy92 4 months ago
wow
TalonMercenary 4 months ago
Problem with building a battleship of that magnitude is that it also becomes a BIG target that the enemy WILL defeat. One is not enough, if they had 10 of them that would have been a different matter. Then the enemy wouldn't have had the resources to take them on. It was the same for Bismarck, all of the British Navy wanted a piece of it !!
turboslag 4 months ago
@turboslag This is why Yamato and Musashi were built in total secrecy.
Navyfieldguy 4 months ago
@Navyfieldguy why
talkingmonkey1000 4 months ago
@turboslag Like saying "Hey, here we are. We have big guns, shoot me!" >-0
BHuang92 4 months ago
@BHuang92
Exactly !! Military ego's almost always result in defeat !
turboslag 3 months ago
this ship is a kickass!!
carlpoogii 4 months ago
@siashimi You may be right it was the best pure battleship ever built but it was next to obsolete. As even the Japanese mariner noted himself, the Yamato's trump card, the big guns, were only useful fighting other battleship 1 on 1. None of the major battles in the pacific had that kind of thing; battleships were there to protect the carriers and that was about it.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 4 months ago
@siashimi It did fight ship to ship once in Leyte Gulf. For unknown reasons, it turned away during the battle against a few 'tin cans' of the U.S. Navy. Not sure if it was her or the other ships that sank the escort carriers and destroyers that were lost that day.
Shadx27 5 months ago
@Shadx27 It turned to avoid a torpedo wave and lost contact...
Navyfieldguy 4 months ago
An Iowa Class battleship would beat up or send the yamato to the bottom of the ocean:)
allanguo99 5 months ago
Yamato was indeed a "fortress" on the sea.....but.......no one will ever know how she would have fared against the newer, faster, American battleships with their radar directed gunnery. The slower speed of Yamato(24-27kts), slow loading time and mediocre accuracy of the 18" guns, suggests she might have been easy meat for an opponent like Missouri, North Carolina, or Massachusetts. Bigger she was.......technologically superior she was not. And her armor wasn't impervious to 16" shells.
Lex5576 5 months ago
@Lex5576 Yamato is only 5 knots slower than Iowa..... And faster than any carrier Japan feilded (with exception to Shinano) And Iowa's Radar Fire Control was not fool proof. South Dakota used the same system, which failed when she was struck by a 6 inch shell and she was firing her shells blindly at targets. and Yamato will hit her Yamato would then out class Iowa in every way. Not to mention no one on Iowa could likely opperate her Range Finders.... But who can say, she is rusted pile of scrap.
Fischer0Dude 5 months ago
@Fischer0Dude By then the USN had mastered radar-directed fire. See Surigao Strait if you don't believe it. Especially in a night engagement, radar is a crushing advantage. South Dakota's systems failed not due to battle damage but a mistake made by an engineer (I'm assuming you mean the action at Guadalcanal).
There is also the small issue that there were 4 Iowa-class BBs vs only 2 Yamato-class (1 by 1945).
yujinchia 5 months ago
@yujinchia You are right, but when consider the fact that when ever technology fails shit hits the fan and bad, often times the simpler, more heavy duty tech is superior. Not to mention it is unlikely any Americans would know how to operate her antique range finders (a by product of technology. With out her Radar Fire Control, Iowa is grossly inferior to Yamato. The 18.1s are much more accurate than people give them credit. But like I said, Yamato is a rusting pile of scrap.
Fischer0Dude 5 months ago
@Fischer0Dude This is straying into sheer conjecture of course, but I'd argue the Iowa class would still be a pretty good match without radar. The Yamato had heavier armor but not heavy enough to stop 16" AP shells, and it was at least 6 knots slower. That means the iowa could control the entire engagement; they could choose when and from where to attack and, if they wanted to, they could simply break off and outrun the Yamato. It's also harder to hit a faster target.
yujinchia 5 months ago
@Fischer0Dude Really? Why did Yammies guns NEVER hit a military target?
USExceptionalism 5 months ago
@USExceptionalism Yamato was the pride of the Japanese, even more so after the sinking of Musashi. Yamato was too precious to risk in a battle. Also, little tid bit for fun, crew from the Gambler Bay reported a huge hit, larger than any other shell that hit her. If you read the varying evidence, it is possible it was a 18.1 shell that hit at a range of 30 - 35 000 yards at night. A lucky shot, but a hit never the less.
Fischer0Dude 5 months ago
@Fischer0Dude A ship too "precous" to put into harms way is worthless. Yammie high tailed after seeing a horizon full of a "crusiers" and "fleet carriers" at Leyte. Gambier Bay was hit by an 8" shell to the engine room and numberous smaller calibers. The rest you tell of is myth. If she had been hit by taht large caliber shell there would not have benn 800 survivosrs
USExceptionalism 5 months ago
@USExceptionalism you clearly know shit about what ur talking about but its alright since you seem to be drunk or something
krixtorei 5 months ago
@krixtorei Listen fool. The purppse of a navy is to go into harm's way and put the enemy on the bottom according to John Paul Jones. You're semen drunk. Big Dix in the mouth are bad for your health
USExceptionalism 5 months ago
@USExceptionalism Tell me when you grow up in your mind... and perhaps on something else too kiddo
krixtorei 5 months ago
@krixtorei Come back when you understand English syntax and grammar
USExceptionalism 5 months ago
@Lex5576 The problem with the Yamato and Musashi was that they were never used in combat until Leyte Gulf. By that time, they would be going up against combat proven crews where Y & M still had yet to see their baptism of fire. Remember, when the Musashi was finally hit at Leyte, the reports from the pilots stated she was a new ship, and stated there were two of them.
cabbievonbump 5 months ago
@Lex5576 armour on board yamato was built to shrug of 18inch shells but not 260 us warplanes.THIS was one big ship you would not want to be on receiving end of 18.1 inch shell it was biggest battle ship in world god rest its sailors
motorguzzi100 4 months ago
@motorguzzi100....Only the main turrets "might" be able to shrug off 16" shells. The theory was never proven. Being imprevious to 16" shells is one thing.....but surviving the immense concussion inside one of those turrets after taking a direct hit is something entirely different. The 25" thick turret of the Yamato may have been physically impenetrable.....but the occupants inside would have been reduced to badly mangled corpses. You can never rule out the human factor in battle.
Lex5576 4 months ago
"Greatest ship of World War 2" is a bit a foolish thing to say about a ship that spent the grand majority of the war avoiding combat.
CaptHawkeye 6 months ago
@CaptHawkeye I agree. I'd say it had the greatest potential, but with the action it did see, it was never credited with actually sinking any ships at all.
BA31Driver 5 months ago
it would have been very interesting to see this monster in action as she was originally intended; against another battleship 'slugging' it out on the line. It is astounding that a navy (Japan's) that had the foresight to use carriers in the beginning still believed that a battleship was the answer by war's end. Thanks for posting
chewie211171 6 months ago
it would have been very interesting to see this monster in action as she was originally intended; against another battleship 'slugging' it out on the line. Thanks for posting
chewie211171 6 months ago
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chewie211171 6 months ago
WILL SOMEONE TELL THAT LADY TO SHUT UP!!!!!!!!
hPD194 7 months ago
oil war 1
spikydipple 7 months ago
i LOVE descriptive video service!!!! Props to PBS, for taking the lead on the D.V.S./SAP front.
mowgli2071 7 months ago
An Iowa Class would have sent that big pile of shit to the bottom of the ocean.
DanSVT03 7 months ago
@DanSVT03 I don't think you know very much
dave777blaster 7 months ago
Yamato...was the biggest target the the US ever have in WW2,followed by Mushashi....
AZ4307 8 months ago
The twat needs to do something more useful with her stupid mouth.
Gmissile 8 months ago
who calls Yamato the greatest ship... it was just the biggest ship not the greatest.
MaeLSTRoM1997 9 months ago 2
@MaeLSTRoM1997 exactly if it was the best than why is it at the bottom of the sea?
ThePtga 9 months ago
@ThePtga its huge fucking ego and fat ass rice eaters sank it
crazypat523 8 months ago
The guy narrator is definitely from the Mass Effect codex anyone else recognize it??
rmschris12 10 months ago
Yamato ain't the largest carrier anymore
raytekman 10 months ago
@raytekman
It never was, it was a battleship.
LastThree804 9 months ago
@raytekman Carrier? It's a freaking Battleship, you do know the differance right?
Ze3g0 9 months ago
@raytekman
Carrier?Its a BattleShip man
Haddockxyz300 8 months ago
why did kamikazi pilots wear helmets?
superjujujuice 10 months ago 2
@superjujujuice lol
Makreel44 9 months ago
if the yamato had an additional 10 ships would it have been able to have any affect against the US armada?
happysplinters 10 months ago
what would have happened had the Yamato been successful? would this have delayed the US win in the pacific?
happysplinters 10 months ago
@happysplinters It would delay it for about 1 hour. If she succeeded to beach itself near Okinawa, it would become perfect stationary practice target for B-29 bombers against which she had no defense whatsoever.
ssmusic214 10 months ago
what the hell is that women doing!
TheKymaru 10 months ago
I said, a study says that the two are equally strong, I have not seen the study but one of my friends no idea where or when but one can see that both are equally strong because time is of the guns not on how many inches have. The USS Iowa has 16 inches, the IJN Yamato 18, the Iowa-resistant lighter grenades, the Yamato has added a lot of heavy shells but they are what is seen as strong!
NavalFroces 11 months ago
China is building biggest aircraft carrier 2015!
89Bossi 11 months ago
The woman is a translator for the intelligence impaired.
MX3516 11 months ago
japanese whistleblower...darned woman go talk for blind people somewhere else
NIKSTAR2008 11 months ago
Retard female narrator is retarded. Get in kitchen na0.
SuperHaloStarwarsFan 11 months ago
there is no point in questioning who suffered more inside this war. it is always good to mourn everyone who fought. they cared for there people back home. they cared enough to give there lives. mourn the kamikaze, and the Americans. mourn civilians killed. but take the war as a reminder never to start such a conflict again. pity the living, but do not pity the dead. they can't feel you. mourn them, do not wallow in their loss.
crashrj543 11 months ago
@crashrj543 Um, no, sorry, I can't mourn a "warrior" who committed the atrocities that the Japanese soldier did in China, Korea, across the South Pacific, everywhere their foul boots made landfall. Never. The Bushido code that produced those monsters should not be rewarded by mourning those bastards. They should rot in a well deserved hell alongside their Nazi SS soul brothers. My father fought them in the Solomons, and I have the photos and firsthand accounts to back up my opinion.
dorkf1sh 11 months ago
@dorkf1sh you are right, they used the bushido the wrong way
CaptCamping 11 months ago
Battlecruiser Operational
supra16 11 months ago
I HATE THAT ANNOYING BITCH!
Jacobobs1 1 year ago
The guy tlaks about "the greatest naval desaster of all times" taken the loss of life.
I think he forgot about the sinkings of Wilhelm Gustloff, Steuben and Goya!
rembremerding 1 year ago
@rembremerding how bout pearl harbor dumb ass. great uncle dies there.... fuckin kamakazi
kremppboarder 11 months ago
this woman narrator is so annoying
76mrsailor 1 year ago
@SaltFishKid you are a very sad fool
infinite90 1 year ago
suicide is so stoopid what does it prove nothing who cares no-one you are dead and forgotten waste of life
endracismguy 1 year ago
@endracismguy go back to bed
infinite90 1 year ago
What you guys are missing is that the woman's voice is a embedded description for the visually impaired in the video. .
RKPNE 1 year ago
truly one bad ass battleship though!
7c8f9x 1 year ago 11
america kicked jap ass
RonyMexico 1 year ago
I think, that if it wasn't a women narrating, it wouldn't be so much complaning about it, couse let's face it, we men don't want women to have anything to do with war.
Papadragon18 1 year ago
that bitch narrating is pointing out everything were seeing.WER NOT FKIN BLINDD
are we?
Blackblade22100 1 year ago
USA OWNS
gunsnatcher2112 1 year ago
the sad thing about world war 2 was that japan and german never had the chance to work together....yamato combo bismarck
deadpeng 1 year ago
@deadpeng it wouldn't have made a difference. battleships were antiquated and obsolete by ww2.
camaro76 1 year ago
study no srudy
NavalFroces 1 year ago
ähm the iowa was the world largest battleship the iowa had got 270meters and the yamato 263meters and a srudy said the iowa and the yamato was the world strongest battleship
NavalFroces 1 year ago
@NavalFroces Yamato outgunned the Iowa class. Had better air defence, larger crew, more dissplacement. Learn what 'largest' means, its not just about how long they were. I done some searching and can find no trace of any study claiming the Iowa class had the same fire power as the Yamato.
ELITEkaos 1 year ago
@ELITEkaos Bigger guns doesn't mean "outgunned". Most likely outcome: Iowa with it's superior radar fire control and faster rate of fire would knock out Yamato's fire control system. After which Yamato would be sitting duck.
ssmusic214 11 months ago
@ssmusic214 Not really. In order for the Iowa to lock on its target, she is risking herself getting on Yamato's range.
Mark IV's didn't do well in actual combat. USS Washington accuracy was 10% when she "snuck" behind IJN Kirishima (out of 80-plus shells shot, only 9 made its mark). Those radar are too sensitive. SoDak's radar was knocked out by a 6 inch shell, she was firing wildly and off target.
OperationEndGame 11 months ago
@OperationEndGame In ACTUAL COMBAT At the Battle of Surigao Straigt West Virginia hit Yamashiro from 22.8 km away with her VERY FIRST SALVO! Entire jap fleet was wiped out.
Also in ACTUAL COMBAT the ONLY time what Yamato was involved into ship to ship battle (Battle of Samar) her performance was total disaster. Under conditions of total naval superiority she wasn't credited by Jap command for sinking a SINGLE US ship.
ssmusic214 11 months ago
@ssmusic214 Fuso was already bleeding from torpedos launched by the PT boats before the US battleships ever fired a salvo the PT's provided the range for the big guns. the Southern Fleet had no room to form a battle line since they were bottlenecked in Surigao Strait. .... Mark IV radar were not accurate as people would like to believe -- See USS Washington vs. IJN Kirishima... Only 10% direct hit.
OperationEndGame 11 months ago
@OperationEndGame Scoring direct hit with very first shot from 22.8 Km away is MORE ACCURATE as anything else ever recorded in naval warfare up to that time. And US PT boats failed to score single hit on Jap fleet. And forming battle line had nothing to do with acquiring firing solution on the target. Japs never even fired back and faled to score a single hit on US battleships.
ssmusic214 11 months ago
@OperationEndGame Fuso wasn't "bleeding". It blew up and broke in two after attack by US destroyers. She was never even near US Battleship line at the battle of Surigao Strait.
ssmusic214 11 months ago
@ssmusic214 Fuso was already dead in the water before the US battleships fired a salvo.
OperationEndGame 11 months ago
@OperationEndGame That's what I said! Fuso blew up and broke in two before Jap fleet ever came near US Battleship line. Her fate had no relation to Yamashiro and the rest of Jap fleet action with US battleships.
ssmusic214 11 months ago
@ssmusic214 Kurita ordered a "general attack" instead of forming a battle line. It was more of a tactical error by Kurita.
OperationEndGame 11 months ago
@OperationEndGame Forming battle line was absolutely irrelevant in the case of Battle of Samar. Japs had such an overwhelming superiority over US that had no Battleships or even Cruisers. Yamato ran away from single US destroyer firing torpedo spread at her. And than got lost in the fog and rain squall and couldn't find her way back to battle scene before it was all over. Disastrous performance! Certainly not a sign of "greatest ship afloat".
ssmusic214 11 months ago
@ssmusic214 It is relevant to form a battle line so all ship captains can coordinate with one another. Once Kurita ordered a general attack - the only plausible reason why Kurita made this decision was due to fatigue and stress (he lost his flagship Atago near Palawan and Musashi while transiting into San Bernardino). He was no longer thinking straight due those conditions. And considering he never got the word from Ozawa that Halsey was successfully lured out to open sea. Continued....
OperationEndGame 11 months ago
@OperationEndGame Wrong! Kurita's fleet was in anti-aircraft formation. It would took too long to form the battle line while US carriers were trying to retreat behind rain squall oncoming from the East. And battle line wouldn't make any difference considering that US ships were totally outclassed and outgunned.
Outcome of the battle was decided by disastrous over all performance of Japanese fleet including Yamato and VERY BAD gunnery targeting.
ssmusic214 11 months ago
@ssmusic214 In Kurita's mind, he also thought he was caught in a pincer move between the 3rd Fleet and 7th Fleet. If Ozawa broke radio silence, the whole outcome would have been different. The tin cans were very lucky. But Kurita also had a good reason why he decided to pull back -- it was illogical for him to shell empty transport ships on Leyte's coast, they were already several hours behind schedule.
OperationEndGame 11 months ago
@OperationEndGame Nonsense! If Kurita succeeded in wiping out Taffy 3 that would leave US land invasion without air support, supplies, reinforcements, etc.... That would have been catastrophe.
ssmusic214 11 months ago
@NavalFroces err. no.... Iowa's full displacement is around 55,000 tons... Yamato is 72,000 tons.
OperationEndGame 11 months ago
nostalgic critic: SHUT UP GODDAMNIT SHUT UP!!!!
goldengun5980 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
the woman narrating is for the blind, you low iq retards.
Hatinonthehaters 1 year ago
she's not narrating, she's doing the closed captions... smooth guys
churkeybreath 1 year ago
MADE IN CHINA
meuass72 1 year ago
@meuass72 MADE IN JAPAN
philippines1998 1 year ago
@philippines1998 MADE IN JAPANESE OCCUPIED CHINA!!!
meuass72 1 year ago
@meuass72
Built at Kure Naval Yard in Hiroshima, which is in Japan.
AscensionNU 1 year ago
@AscensionNU thats cool i just wanted to have a little fun and i didnt know were it was made and were did u find this info?
meuass72 1 year ago
@meuass72
Pretty much any book that features the class will list where it was built, and its on various websites too. Yamato's construction is notable because of the work the Japanese did to expand the facilities to build her, and then to hide her while she was being built before the war.
AscensionNU 1 year ago
@meuass72 yeah but after commies came, the quality has gone
GetTpOrDIE 1 year ago
yeah woman! i understand english!
kimpax 1 year ago
lol, all hektik, enjoying the documentary.... and then "footage of the battered japanese flag..." oh bitch please
brendameistar 1 year ago
LOL who is the nut that edited this? LOL
Coolrockndad 1 year ago
WTF is up with the woman narrator?
how pointless.
PrepSurvivor 1 year ago
the woman was supposed to be edited out, its how they piece the film together, of what goes where, the description of the clip. this is a raw video.
DSFDSFDSFDSFESFEWFEW 1 year ago
hahahah that woman is retarded
tempeztad 1 year ago 38
@tempeztad lol
Owl064 7 months ago
The woman must be the daughter of Captain Obvious
armoredpig 1 year ago
@armoredpig She will be the feminist obvious
ecchibanzaii 1 year ago
It was a great battleship but it couldn't keep up with the future of naval warfare.
SirishT 1 year ago
@ssmusic214 i understand that, but thats irrelevant to what i am saying.
Digzy101 1 year ago
no wonder yamato had a crapload of guns on it
DinokillerSithlord 1 year ago
When Japan attacked pearl harbor, it was the end of Japan as a Country!!!!!
phoneloan 1 year ago
@phoneloan Hardly! It was the end of deranged militarist lunatic cast in Japan. Japan as the country has been doing quite well without them for last 60 years.
ssmusic214 1 year ago 2
@ssmusic214 That's because the USA helped the Japanese out after we dropped the atomic bomb on them to end the war. The USA has been helping Japan ever since the end of the war since we felt sorry for them. Basically, just like Germany and France, the reason these countries thrive and live in freedom today from international threats is because of the USA. Don't bite the hand that feeds!!!!!!
phoneloan 1 year ago
@phoneloan
actually no, US did not give much assistance to the reconstruction of Japan, because they were from a different race and Germany was top priority at the time.
eine52 1 year ago
@eine52
That is a joke right?
BamFor07 1 year ago
@BamFor07
Sadly, it`s true.
Do you think American public will accept aiding a former enemy who started the war? Do you think Truman will do that, just after becoming a president and haven`t done much to show his leadership?
eine52 1 year ago
@eine52
It doesn't matter what I may think or even what you may think. History shows us that the United States poored billions, thats right billions, of dollars into the reconstruction and reorginization of Japan. The Japanese people today owe their economic success to the top to bottom reconstruction after the war that was only made possible through American dollars. The facts about this are very clear, the Japanese loved McArthur after the war for his work and help rebuilding.
BamFor07 1 year ago
@BamFor07
United States assistance totaled about US$1.9 billion during the occupation, or 4% of GNP in that period. About 59% of this aid was in the form of food, 15% in industrial materials, and 12% in transportation equipment. United States grant assistance, however, tapered off quickly in the mid-1950s.
Much of their success resulted from its highly skilled labor force and wars in Korea and Vietnam, and the Japanese public at the time of the occupation had mixed views for McArthur.
eine52 1 year ago
@eine52
US assistance totalled $2.44 billion to Japan by the mid 1950's. Considering that the US spent a total of $13 billion under the Marshal plan that is a lot of money. I don't know what you are trying to get at but US assistance after the way was crucial to the later success of Japan. Saying that the Japanese labor force was highly skilled following the war is a stretch given Japans feeble economic output during the war and loss of industrial during the war.
BamFor07 1 year ago
@BamFor07 ... ahh also plz dont forget.. ship building.. korea, taiwan and japan's economies exploded from ship building.. McArthur wanted to kill that. he didnt XD ..
teddythebenny 1 year ago
@eine52 I hate to say this, but Japan's attack on us was probably the bloody nose we needed to 'Get Modern'. Otherwise, we would not have lifted out of our depression. War equals money, sad to say. It kicked our economy into overdrive, and at the same time we strengthened our military, allowing for us to openly help Britain in a war they needed us in, as they were no match for SHITLER.
Helping Japan was a human thing to do postwar, and gained us a friend.
Aku666Torres 1 year ago
@Aku666Torres and we're still friends ! ..
teddythebenny 1 year ago
@Aku666Torres Stupid amrican
TheSco97 1 year ago
@TheSco97 Bitter asshole
Aku666Torres 1 year ago
@TheSco97 or..stupid leprechaun
Aku666Torres 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Aku666Torres Stupid american
TheSco97 1 year ago
@phoneloan wow you sure live on propaganda lol
spoukas 1 year ago
@phoneloan yeah your a dumbass
pizzalolcatt 1 year ago
@phoneloan did ur mama tech u a manner?
radzlionheart 1 year ago
"Yamato was TWICE THE SIZE her US counterparts"?
Nonsense!
Yamato under full load 72 000 tonnes
Iowa class under full load 58 000 tonnes
Somebody needs to learn 1 st grade arithmetic.
ssmusic214 1 year ago
@ssmusic214 , they were most likely comparing her to the most prevalent US battleships at the time she was commissioned, the old WW1-vintage battlewagons like the Pennsylvania and Arizona which were only about 32,000 tons.
Bzamora45 1 year ago
@Bzamora45.....Thats no quite correct...at the time, with the sinkings at pearl harbor, the pacific fleet was just that....the old WWI battlewagons....the 16" gunned North Carolina class...the USS North Carolina and USS Washington entered service in the US navy in April and May 1941 respectfully, BEFORE the attack...They were in the atlantic when pearl happened and were soon transfered. followed from march to august 1942 by the 4 fast 16"gunned wagons of the South Dakota class..
throbbin87 1 year ago
@ssmusic214 They use the ratio of the size of the average Japanese man against that of an average American as compared to the sizes of the ships. With scaling it comes out very close
tryithere 1 year ago
@ssmusic214 The SoDak: 35000 tonnes. Learn history
AzyrenIshida 1 year ago
where the fuck is part 2?
Artas1984 1 year ago
@askjiir do you mean that those 115 aircraft ended up as kamikaze planes? it sounds like your saying they are a class of plane or something...they werent built for that :P
Digzy101 1 year ago
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ssmusic214 1 year ago
@Digzy101 there never were ANY Jap airplanes anywhere near Yamato final battle.
ssmusic214 1 year ago
wonder when americans are going to fight a war in their own homeland. Lets see if thats so easy. NOT!!
SoldierTR70 1 year ago
@SoldierTR70 ok done. we've had an american civil war. were 11 states fromed their own country and we went to war with them on our own homeland. and what about the revolutionary war. or the war of 1812? we've had 3 war's on our homeland. so you stfu.
1stinfantrydivison 1 year ago