Terence McKenna advocates Salvia Divinorum (part 2)

[agnieszkamaria]

Exactly what my friend said when I introduced her to Salvia, "I've tried everything, but you're the first person to tell me something will work that was telling the truth." Ha :)

[walczzsystemem]

Set and setting is hugely important. And the most important factor is your state of mind, your cultural background and what you've known so far. This plant is a tool of evolution, it gives an experience which is indescribable. I smoked weed and then salvia 10x extract and I burst into a FRACTAL. It was so mind blowing that I didn't exactly remember the experience. I felt like being born again when I found myself back in a human body. PROFOUND EXPERIENCE

[MrWiscism]

Salvia D. is only partially legal. It is for incense use only. It BECOMES illegal if used for the purpose of intoxication in the USA.

[PureBlackMetal]

"If you take a psychedelic and you're not afraid you did too much, you didn't do enough."

Damn straight! I do wonder how a salvia quid goes with Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds... Time to find out!

[wetwarez]

one time my friend smoked the purple salvia outside and saw faces at the end of tree branches on this tree

[davetista]

if you want to get high then salvia is not for you. it's not a joke and it's not for the ignorant people that brag about "getting fucked up" and who can drink the most. when i smoked 60x for the first time i was overwhelmed, speechless by the harsh truth about my life that it was throwing at me. it taught me to be a better person; not the easy way or the hard way but the way in between.

[Zenboy23]

@davetista amen, man.

[justchillin951]

i experienced real fear on salvia and lsd. salvia is kinda fun but can fuck you up if you arent careful. mushrooms are my personal fav though

[mastabeals]

I recently had attempted to achieve the effects I hear of Salvia and was quite disappointed. I used a gravity bong and ripped a pretty good couple hits (of about 30x I wanna say?) and I certainly had an experience, it was pretty trippy, but nothing close to what I read of it, nothing as intense as I've heard of it. Should I go with a higher extract? What went wrong? Any advice would be good, thanks.

[discordian420]

@mastabeals 30x is strong enough. Did you hold each hit in for 30-40 seconds?

[mastabeals]

@discordian420

Yeah man, a good 30 seconds just like I read to do, and I definitely had a little bit of a trip, very strange inebriation, but not like Terence Mckenna and others describe. Idk man, perhaps I'll give the 30x another try and see what happens.

[Vape4life]

@mastabeals You have to learn to let yourself go to it. X30 should be plenty....the trick is not to fight it. It's hard to do cause it can get a bit scary, but once you do, you'll be there.

[Vape4life]

@mastabeals don't try to hold on to this world at all is what i'm trying to say LOL...you'll trip

[MrWiscism]

@mastabeals Sometimes you just aren't ready to trip from it. Trust me, I've enjoyed this for none party reasons and when you are ready, it happens.

[SaviorThree]

@mastabeals Salvia is not particularly reliable. One day you'll just laugh, the next you might hallucinate overwhelmingly and be so removed from reality that you don't remember that you're holding a piece. Do it daily under good conditions for a week or two, each evening, and you might get something during the second week. Something significant, I mean. At least, that's what I experienced. As with all similar substances, it varies hugely from person to person.

[TheTypicalGirl]

China has a fairly high average IQ. It stands to reason.

[TheTypicalGirl]

Islam created virtually nothing. It's "Golden Age" is nothing more than a collection of accomplishments that predate it's conquest of the civilizations truly responsible for them. Islam has crushed progressive thought from its inception. It is antithetical to creation.

[TheTypicalGirl]

The vicissitudes of individual economies are irrelevant. The persistent gap that separates the economies of some nations vs. others is at issue. The dumber they are, the poorer they are.

[TheTypicalGirl]

Nations that suffer do so largely as a result of the low, aggregate intellectual capacity to know any other condition. Read "IQ and the Wealth of Nations." Only a child equates success with greed.

[pathwaytoallah]

@TheTypicalGirl nations suffer due to the disproportionate dispertion of wealth which is a symptom of a world afflicted by thousands of years of imperialism.

[superodfx]

i smoked 60* and freakd out a bit then heard a female voice: its allright this is how it is meant to be completely entirely.

it just calmed me. i thought it was nothing a didnt know

[armyofmeisbliss]

You are amazing for posting Mr. McKenna's lectures and speeches. Please reupload the ones which have been taken out of the site. We'll help post them again, if necessary.

thank you.

[narocks777]

i smoke saliva lead every night before i sleep

[jeffgooloolie]

I was alone, and I was trippin on salvia, and freaking out a littlebit, when I heard voices that said dont worry it will be over in a few seconds. They were right. I wonder who they were. Ill Never do salvia again, that for sure.

[miranybeetle]

Yah, I don't think I'm going to do it again. It was too weird.

[dyepaintball715]

Salvia brought me to a different dimension, things were all connected together like legos or zippers. Simply inexplicable reality as we see it was nonexistent

[hater263]

a good legal, powerful, and dissociating drug is a gas called carbogen. look it up.

[phuq1deology]

try it by yourself in a dark room and close your eyes.

take a pull AND HOLD IT FOR 20 seconds.

completely different from doing it with others.

then, say hello to the blue elves (guardians of the voice?...)for me.

and ask them why they are always pissed off.

[DUBSAC]

Salvia is the real deal. Ive tripped about 25 times on it and each time it gets more intense. The last time was too intense and I never thought i would come back. Needless to say i will never do it again.

[crazyirishdan]

Salvia is associated with an entity that presents herself through this plant, and she requires devotion.

In more regular terms, it's reverse tolerant. It gets stronger the more you use it. The first time, nothing, then....

'The Shepherdess' often presents herself (much like Fly Agaric mushrooms are reported to do) to those that seek her out, but I've done it a mere handful of times, so I've never met Lady Salvia.

I've coined a term for the fear you get - PET - Pure Existential Terror.

[causalityofbeing]

But obviously you will come back. I feel the same way having had my own frightening experience. When you have used salvia, do you have questions? Is it a spiritual journey? Have you encountered beings or aliens?

[DUBSAC]

I have experienced just about everything Salvia has to offer. As for the alien part, it feels like we have been an aliens experiment when your on Salvia. The best way i can describe is its like the Matrix. Its like reality is a dream and the trip is the reality that has always been with me.

[miranybeetle]

Your last sentence explains exactly what my experience left me feeling.

[bedlaka]

My experience on Salvia is this: it bluntly shows you a reality, so overpowering and real that it can be terrifying. I have gone back and forth as to if it is a 'positive' or 'negative' drug, but have concluded it just IS. I recall having spiritual trips on LSD many years ago, but Salvia showed me the nuts and bolts of the Cosmic Clock.

[miranybeetle]

"The nuts and bolts", that describes what I saw/experienced too. It was like small revolving rhythmic sticks that each had their own picture of what I experience in this reality. I was one of those moving pieces and not a "me" any longer. I had to pull all of the rhythmic patterns and colors back into myself in order to come back into my body.

[miranybeetle]

I felt like without my husband hugging me back into this reality, I may've been gone for good.

[WHYNOTTTTTTyeah]

How the fuck do you get pure salvinorine alpha? That seems to be horribly difficult to find.

[alecd83]

Man, i'm perplexed.. I smoked salvia twice now over the past few days, for my first times. It was 20X and and i took 2 big inhalations each time. Both times i experienced no visuals but did feel a strong pressure going from my toes all the way up my body, as if it was being lifted off.. Again, no visuals, but a brief, intense pressure lifting... WTF??

[DominoShadow]

It's the same for me. I can even get myself to talk just fine. However I kinda start to see stuff a little. But not enough to call it a trip or anything. I do like the high though :).

[bachmorris]

Did you sit in a dark room with no ambient sound & close your eyes, while relaxing?

[benpetrofsky]

You need to take another hit. One more hit will do it most likely. Low doeses of Salvia feel like that.

[HolocaustHoax]

I've smoked salvia yesterday and today but i didnt feel anything. What the fuck am i doing wrong?

[buki8989]

Motherfuck this is great but publicity its not good for this shit been there done that doing that and its this what will make it illegal we want every herb and shit to be legal so dont fuck it up by posting stupid videos on youtube of people telling random peolpe without telling them what theyre getting into or fuckers doing stupid shit its not good just think of it and Respect

[pitaa8a]

if you're not afraid you did too much..you didn't do enough." LOL

jajaja

thats right

love this substance, conects me with infinity

[TheTypicalGirl]

Like producing the lowest unemployment and highest standard of living of every other economic system ever attempted? Yeah, really uncomfortable.

[nycballer4life]

sounds like a plant i really would like to communicate with but unfortunately here in germany it is and has always been illegal.

[HawkLarabee]

Personally, I don't recommend Salvia. When Terrance was talking about being afraid he wasn't kidding. You can definitely become terrified on Salvia. If you really feel that you have to try a hallucinogen then try a small amount of mushrooms for your first trip. You have a much better chance of having a good time and even laughing your head off. But remember to research the hell out of anything before you take it!

[SilentBud420]

5 grams of mushrooms is where things get really interesting.. 2 grams is fun.... but 5 grams and you in another dimension talking to something beyond words

[superpsilocybin]

5 grams of mushrooms had nothing on salvia.

Salvia sends you to a different fucking universe.

[j0hnsc4r]

lol ive never done 5 before i usually do a 8th but im deffinitly doing 5 this summer tho lol

[Zickddot]

I agree, I've tried almost all of em'. Salvia is the right hand man of the final boss you find in all the video games. This is not an easy drug to go through.

[sevenleggedinsect]

Salvia is not something you do with people, its not a party drug, its all about set and setting, I recommend smoking in the woods or in a dark room with some good music and some incense burning. It just show disrespect for the plant when people post videos of themeselves on here and is what is going to make it illegal when you post videos of it on YouTube. Use some common sense guys, we want to keep this plant legal.

[obelisk1077]

watching the electric lines force your down the river to the man in the bright yellow bus. "are you coming?" i asked my friend. the bus took off over a a spinning wheel of color. i watched it drive away until it road was only beige. then the beige blew all the way across my vision. i didnt notice that it was the color of my wall. then like a character stepping threw dimentions my laptop appeared. followed by my desk. your first thought will be: o yeah i smoked salvia.

[ThatWillKid]

People don't heed his advice. He basically said that smoking it could be dangerous. It seems it is a rarity to find someone who actually chewed salvia leaves.

[theawesomone]

he said dont smoke pure salvinorin A.

[Beachcomber95]

which talk is this from?

thanks

[lookElike]

my 1st time was very strange. my expectations were very hi from what ive read on erowid, you tube etc. I dun it in a water bong and on the first toke as i held my breath and swung round to lie down i must of caught a glimps of my lighter. i remember vividly trying to remember if i was a lighter. and i came to the conclusion i wasn't a lighter... i was a crease in my hand! strangly every time after hasnt been as off key but i do like to meditate with it under my tounge. I will try what big t sed

[SleepyBrownBread]

"if you're not afraid you did too much..you didn't do enough." LOL

[stankwho]

I'm not convinced salvia isnt totally harmless. There isnt enough study to show me that it doesnt ruin your brain's chemistry. Personally I'll give up a few moments of hallucinations to spare my brain in the long run.

[bmxrider69x]

salvia is a brain LAg.... its like a computer transmitting a 3d program... with lagg... its a 5 spoke wheel spinning life..slicing everything into 3d pieces of think paper

[kaleipug]

15-20 leaves! I smoked 2-3 leaves on a bowl and was pulled in a spiral to the left, itching/crawling skin and sweating like never before. Deffinitely strong stuff, immediate effects like he said.

[SubliminalKnowledge]

There is a huge difference between smoking and eating it.

Eating requires a lot more.

[kaleipug]

whats the difference in effects?

[SubliminalKnowledge]

Eating it makes you trip for a couple an hour or two.

Smoking it leaves you fucked up for 10 minutes.

[dgardner93]

duration, ive tripped hard smoking it

[swoop2012]

i had a vial of x21 and tha ist hit i did took me there however every hit afterwards didnt have that out tha mind effect in short i thought i got ripped off well i saved one big blast and it sat on my shelf for a couple months and one night i said what tha fuck i hit that and i was thrusted into tha realm of tha pysche and iwas talking with folks from my past and other lives most intense

[imartarded]

u can only do it once in in a while cuz ur body builds a tolerrance 2 it

[KamauAmani]

WOW! I never did this Where could I get this?

[lpawl89]

you can get it at most tobacco shops

[Nickoalaustralian]

after I took salvia it last just 20 seconds before I starting flying. it last half an hour. it was amazing. best allucination ever had

[TreeRaper]

Salvia is intense but and it is way crazy but if you give it a shot it makes DMT look like smoking dirt-weed. It's good smoked as an extract or absorbed through the oral mucosa. All psychonaughts should try.

[Keenen420]

i tried this shit out, 20x, didnt smoke a whole shit load, i didnt trip right out and go into a different dimension, i dont think i did enough, but yeah, no kidding it works fast, and its intense, DO NOT TAKE IT LIGHTY, you need next to none to fuck you up

[Nwildchild]

Salvia will fold you inside out.

[Fenris342]

This is how I felt. D:

[FuiSoyYsereUnGil]

Hahaha

"If you're not in fear you took too much than you didn't have enough"

Salvia is a hell of a drug, last trip was intense, never did it again. But it is a worthwhile experience.

[d0md0mt0mt0m]

I think he said "or you didn't have enough" Maybe, what you said just doesn't make sense to me. Anyway carry on....

[Portilloizay]

Cool.

[Portilloizay]

Salvia has a really uncomfortable feeling. I dont like it.

[PartVIII]

i agree. DMT is the way to go

[d0md0mt0mt0m]

for YOU maybe

[graphattic]

I wish that mobile phone from Hawai did not kill you Terence!!!You were the only honest lecturer i know

[Kullg4r]

Which lecture is this from?

[odin422]

LOL real fear baby thats a drug!

[ScaryKid1015]

RIP

you were one of a kind.

[patchworkpork]

thanks alot for posting this! RIP terence

[innerstepping]

excellent

[skuzzlemaster]

ayuhasca i want some bad damn dmts great

[Sharemyworld525]

I'm new to the entheogen scene. I've been researching for a short time and I'm interested in dmt. Are there any other ways of getting dmt besides extracting it from a plant?

[ArmyofLulz]

Try salvia first and if you are still interested, do research on ayahuasca.

[blah1562]

besides ayahuasca, no. the extracting process is that hard,and its totally worth all the work.:)

[howtowinatpoker]

he's right. dmt is some pretty strong stuff.. try salvia first, i know i had an OOB experience on that alone. thought i was in heaven climbing some stairs nd shit

[Gonzo707]

No not really.

Salvia is pretty different from dmt though...personally I'd say dmt is closer to an extremely strong mushroom experience crammed into 5 minutes.

Its not really as if you'll ever be "ready" for either one before youve actually done it before.

[L1NK666XL1NK666]

Im trying Salvia for the first time in one week :)

Cant wait!

But does anyone know how the hell im suposed to get dmt in england? Thats the real drug im pineing for.

[rollyhustle]

salvia is probably better for you, its a natural metabolite that has been a part of the human diet for thousands of years. Therefore, you can be a perfectly healthy human being and do salvia quite often. Read mckennas "Food of the Gods."

[L1NK666XL1NK666]

Thanks for the tip :)

But i do want to do dmt just once at least.

[dayve57]

yeah?

well dmt is in your fucking brain

also, good book suggestion

[Nwildchild]

That's not proven.

[d0md0mt0mt0m]

lol everyone just says it like it's fact.

It's a theory because it is so much like a dream state that DMT must be released when you dream. No evidence at all. But it still is in most living plants.

[miguellevesque]

five stars

[EssArrCee]

five stars