Thanks for putting this video online, Dina Kochetkova used to be one of my favourite gymnasts. Plus, like rach086000 said, I miss when there used to be dancing in the routines.
Of course a world title is bigger achievement then goodwill games gold. However Miller has a world title too on floor, in 1993, and an olympic medal, a bronze in 1992, so she still has more achievements then Dina on floor! I brought up the goodwiill games since it proves Dina cant beat a hit Miller. She couldnt even beat a hit Miller in russia (goodwill games were in russia that year you know) so how could she do it on neutral ground.
Everybody knows that americans get scored at the goodwill games. get over it. Dina won fair and square, she was a better gymnast than Shannon, with more original work, more artistry. The innovation! THe kochetkova flip on BB. She was the one who linked tkatchev to pak consistentlty, and now so many do it. In 96, she did tkatchev to pak, shap to immediate free hip circle to immediate swing down to low bar with 1/2 to immediate free hip hecht to the high bar again. Achilles tendon, the vault in 96
I think it's unfair to say that Dina was more original and more artistic than Shannon. Shannon's routines showed appreciable originality, especially on BB (back dive 1/4 to 1/2 pirouette, gorgeous split hs mount in 1992) and UB (hop 1/1 to Gienger).
It's hard to say that one was better than the other, especially considering that they did NOT overlap during their peaks (Shannon's preceding Dina's). One thing you failed to mention is Shannon had DIVINE compulsory exercises in BOTH quads.
How would you consider Brisbane neutral ground? You DO know that Shannon was gifted during that competition AND the 1993 Worlds, right? It may not have been in the U.S., but Shannon was riding high on the wave of stardom after 1992. It's still contentious that she beat Lysenko in 1993 in the AA.
@kalibeast ok i agree that she was a much better tumbler but the dance is a big no no, when dina did the chicken dance i couldn't take her serioulsey when she did this routine from now on, miller has lovley dance that's so original and has an elegant classical style while Dina has the russian/romanian fast music, and sometimes it can be beautiful and other times it can be a little much. Dina is an amazing tumbler shannon is an amazing dancer that is why shannon always got high compulsory scores
Can you please stop bitching about every gold medal between 1991-2000 that hasn't been won by Shannon? I like her too, but this is getting ridiculous, not to mention extremely annoying! Miller wasn't the best floor worker in the USA, let alone in the world! Shannon has won by default too, you know, and not just once!
Sure. Shannon and Dina have COMPLETELY different styles, especially in Shannon's FX routine from 1992-1994. But, more importantly, Carly can't dance. I could understand equally appreciating Dina and Shannon on floor, but Carly? Seriously? Her 2004 FX had zero dance and zero expression. I mean, yes, she was a great gymnast, but saying that she is equally impressive to you on FX to the other two just doesn't make sense to me.
I am not comparing the routines. That must not be clear. They are my favorite to watch and that's all I said. I didn't say they had anything to do with eachother. Nevertheless, that is your opinion, and not mine. Did I say anywhere in there that I was amazed at Carly's dance ability, or any of their dance abilities, for that matter? No, because there are other factors that can make a routine impressive.
Let me be extremely specific then. I don't understand how Carly's floor routine can be one of your top three favorites if Shannon and Dina are your other two. Is it because of the atmosphere when Carly competed it? I have plenty of favorite MOMENTS in WAG, but when I hear someone say "favorite routine," I immediately think composition, expression, music, choreography, etc. The whole package.
The whole package for me was given by Nastia Liukin. Her floor had power, poise, PERFECTION, presision, elegance, expression, and of course, choreography. It was simply devine, absalutely phenomenal routine. Beyond words tbh.
her tumbling is ok, but i don't like the choreography, i think it could use a little more dance and not just hopping around, but she is still very good.
I always hated her choreography.. her tumbling was great though
mortella23 3 months ago
Absolutely exquisite routine!
LaVoix555 7 months ago 5
Excellent choreography, you can tell shes a born soviet.
gymnasticsloverxoxo 1 year ago 3
I know what you mean, I think the Russians dance the best due to their intensive ballet training
bluecheetahgirl 1 year ago
this is not czardas for sure, she used czardas ocasionally this is another music.
seisouso 1 year ago
Thanks for putting this video online, Dina Kochetkova used to be one of my favourite gymnasts. Plus, like rach086000 said, I miss when there used to be dancing in the routines.
huntasoup 2 years ago
I miss when there used to be dance in floor routines
rach086000 2 years ago 25
I love this routine. Very nice dance and great tumbling.
keishaloveschelsea 2 years ago 13
this music is call Jealousy
gigicheung09 2 years ago
does anyone know the name of her music???
holly069 2 years ago
Czardas
Yangyun4ever 2 years ago
do you have a link? i cant find this anywhere!!
holly069 2 years ago
No sorry
Yangyun4ever 2 years ago
Actually it is called Jealousy and it was composed specially for Dina, but there is a link at freewebs,com-gymnastics011-floormusic,htm
Just replace a. for a , and a / for a -
Yangyun4ever 2 years ago 6
what czardas is this? there are like a million czardas!!!
holly069 2 years ago
I have no idea, sorry. I just know the name of it the song.
Yangyun4ever 2 years ago
anyone know the name of the music??
holly069 2 years ago
A very underrated gymnast....she was one of my faves!!
kaztamar 3 years ago 2
Love love love the choreography. Would give anything to see that from gymnasts these days!
GymnasticsAddict 3 years ago
I love Kotchetkova, one of my all time favourite gymnasts.
emmyjo720 3 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
She only won gold on floor because Miller stepped out of bounds. It was a gold by default and diminished.
millerowns 3 years ago
I mean, aside from the fact that Kotchetkova was a better tumbler and dancer than Miller ever was.
kalibeast 3 years ago 3
I guess that is how Miller beat Kochetkova at the Goodwill Games in RUSSIA on floor finals only several months later.
millerowns 3 years ago
Yup... because a World title on floor is insignificant compared to a Goodwill Games gold...
kalibeast 3 years ago 3
Of course a world title is bigger achievement then goodwill games gold. However Miller has a world title too on floor, in 1993, and an olympic medal, a bronze in 1992, so she still has more achievements then Dina on floor! I brought up the goodwiill games since it proves Dina cant beat a hit Miller. She couldnt even beat a hit Miller in russia (goodwill games were in russia that year you know) so how could she do it on neutral ground.
millerowns 3 years ago 4
Gymnastics existed before Shannon, you know! She didn't invent the sport!
AnnaPavlovaFan 3 years ago 2
Everybody knows that americans get scored at the goodwill games. get over it. Dina won fair and square, she was a better gymnast than Shannon, with more original work, more artistry. The innovation! THe kochetkova flip on BB. She was the one who linked tkatchev to pak consistentlty, and now so many do it. In 96, she did tkatchev to pak, shap to immediate free hip circle to immediate swing down to low bar with 1/2 to immediate free hip hecht to the high bar again. Achilles tendon, the vault in 96
lepetitpoulet 3 years ago
I think it's unfair to say that Dina was more original and more artistic than Shannon. Shannon's routines showed appreciable originality, especially on BB (back dive 1/4 to 1/2 pirouette, gorgeous split hs mount in 1992) and UB (hop 1/1 to Gienger).
It's hard to say that one was better than the other, especially considering that they did NOT overlap during their peaks (Shannon's preceding Dina's). One thing you failed to mention is Shannon had DIVINE compulsory exercises in BOTH quads.
mrparke007 2 years ago
How would you consider Brisbane neutral ground? You DO know that Shannon was gifted during that competition AND the 1993 Worlds, right? It may not have been in the U.S., but Shannon was riding high on the wave of stardom after 1992. It's still contentious that she beat Lysenko in 1993 in the AA.
mrparke007 2 years ago 2
@kalibeast ok i agree that she was a much better tumbler but the dance is a big no no, when dina did the chicken dance i couldn't take her serioulsey when she did this routine from now on, miller has lovley dance that's so original and has an elegant classical style while Dina has the russian/romanian fast music, and sometimes it can be beautiful and other times it can be a little much. Dina is an amazing tumbler shannon is an amazing dancer that is why shannon always got high compulsory scores
moopoo66 1 year ago
@moopoo66
I thought Mo did the chicken dance?
Junon999 10 months ago
Can you please stop bitching about every gold medal between 1991-2000 that hasn't been won by Shannon? I like her too, but this is getting ridiculous, not to mention extremely annoying! Miller wasn't the best floor worker in the USA, let alone in the world! Shannon has won by default too, you know, and not just once!
Darkangel127 3 years ago 2
This is one of my favorite routines too! Well, I just love Dina...:)
brookenicole222 3 years ago 2
This is quite possibly my favorite floor routine, aside from Shannon Miller's at the 1992 Olympics or Carly Patterson's at the 2004.
andreak1013 3 years ago
How you can put all three of those floor routines in the same quote is... beyond me.
mrparke007 2 years ago
Uh, okay....care to elaborate on your snarky reply?
andreak1013 2 years ago
Sure. Shannon and Dina have COMPLETELY different styles, especially in Shannon's FX routine from 1992-1994. But, more importantly, Carly can't dance. I could understand equally appreciating Dina and Shannon on floor, but Carly? Seriously? Her 2004 FX had zero dance and zero expression. I mean, yes, she was a great gymnast, but saying that she is equally impressive to you on FX to the other two just doesn't make sense to me.
mrparke007 2 years ago
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andreak1013 2 years ago
I am not comparing the routines. That must not be clear. They are my favorite to watch and that's all I said. I didn't say they had anything to do with eachother. Nevertheless, that is your opinion, and not mine. Did I say anywhere in there that I was amazed at Carly's dance ability, or any of their dance abilities, for that matter? No, because there are other factors that can make a routine impressive.
andreak1013 2 years ago
Let me be extremely specific then. I don't understand how Carly's floor routine can be one of your top three favorites if Shannon and Dina are your other two. Is it because of the atmosphere when Carly competed it? I have plenty of favorite MOMENTS in WAG, but when I hear someone say "favorite routine," I immediately think composition, expression, music, choreography, etc. The whole package.
mrparke007 2 years ago
....I guess I don't understand why you care so much. It's my opinion. You don't have to agree.
andreak1013 2 years ago
You asked me to elaborate on my snarky comment, so I did.
mrparke007 2 years ago
Nah, my point is that there was really no need for it in the first place.
andreak1013 2 years ago
The whole package for me was given by Nastia Liukin. Her floor had power, poise, PERFECTION, presision, elegance, expression, and of course, choreography. It was simply devine, absalutely phenomenal routine. Beyond words tbh.
willsbob123 2 years ago
One of my all time favorite floor routines. Love the choreography
can1052 3 years ago
N'exagérons rien.
zamolxis7 3 years ago
her tumbling is ok, but i don't like the choreography, i think it could use a little more dance and not just hopping around, but she is still very good.
karaisradxx 4 years ago
Very Good? This girl was near from becoming the 1996 Olympic AA Champion!
espinaca79 3 years ago
i never liked her hurdle...something about seemed weak to me; obviously it's not she was a great tumbler, just bugged me
itchyorion 4 years ago
Oh I loved Dina Kotchetkova, she just totally outclassed Milo here.
escaflowne9282 4 years ago 3
She's amazing! One of the last "complete package" gymnasts (along with Lilia). I particularly like her serious demeanour during competition.
Darkangel127 4 years ago
it's fun seeing when you see her absolutely trying not to smile
for example when the result came in and Khorkina was beaming, you could see she so wanted to smile
also during the 1996 Olympic AA when she lets out a smile while her coach is talking to her between rotations
NastiaFan101 4 years ago
Dina is so classy! They don't make them like that any more... sigh.
violetsnvalium 4 years ago
Dina had difficulty in tumblings, but at the same time, she had very nice dance as well.
It's rare NOW!!
silnara 5 years ago