I wish I never got rid of all the old wrestling stuff I taped in the '80s because some of the federations like the AWA are long gone...and most of the wrestlers are either retired or deceased.
The problem you must consider is one of copyrights. This can be very thorny. However, I have been able to locate obscure productions, that I assumed were lost for eternity, through diligent Google searches and also on Amazon. com.
It's true that numerous TV shows have faded into oblivion because they were not home recorded at the viewer's end and wiped out or discarded at the broadcaster'send. This is also true for the early movie production in the 10's, 20's or 30's.... In the 1970's, VTRs were not affordable by the average customers.... Too bad !!
There's a trend on the net about Dr Who lost episodes on the net and the way some were rediscovered thanks to home recordings....
@graphos10 Yep. and a few old tapes from affiliate stations that didn;t get around to erasing them, and (I think) bits of one episode someone recorded by pointing an 8 mm film camera at their TV!
Actually, no. You have to know that all the CV VTRs sold in EIA countries (using NTSC, like USA, JAPAN, etc..) were skip-field. The CV VTRs sold in CCIR countries (Europe, Australia, etc..) were all full-field.
Therefore, thic CV-5600P is full field. It records and plays both fields of each video picture.
Hi, I have one CV-5600P too! Im from Hungary, I think mine is one in my country. It has a little error, maybe one cap has defect (when I get some free time, I will repair it). The internal structure is very horrible: the cabling is a jungle, without detachable connectors. I could not found any service manual for it. It is very rare machine, well before semi-pro/amateur color VTR times (1967).
Good for you !! The internal wiring is actually not a mess at all, but it comes from times when electronics were built differently. It's not a professional device, so it's built like consumer stuff. Service manual may be found on the intenet. I have it, of course, with all revisions for both the PAL and SECAM models. Check the caps, but also check the rubber tires and belts. Most faults come from ageing belts and tires. The electronics is rather well designed. Congratulations !
Yes, it is a true transistorized stuff, with lot of discrete parts. I excited to show the schematics for historical reasons, not only for servicing. Can you suggest me a download link to service manual or a recommended supplier? But if you have it, I ready to buy a pdf copy from you by paypal payment at regular price. My VTR is a PAL version. Thank you for the quick answer.
Hi, I have one CV-5600P too! Im from Hungary, I think mine is one in my country. It has a little error, maybe one cap has defect (when I get some free time, I will repair it). The internal structure is very horrible: the cabling is a jungle, without detachable connectors. I could not found any service manual for it. It is very rare machine, well before semi-pro/amateur color VTR times (1967).
My high school used a 'portapak' reel to reel VTR, forget what brand though. It was used to record class projects and play back educational videos. One I remember was a video of an eye operation that I saw in my Applied Biology class.
Yep, those VTRs were widely used in classrooms in the world, although these were rather EIAJs and not CVs, and were B/W, not colour.
Funny you mentioned the eye surgery recording, because the front page of this VTR's user's manual pictures a surgery field with color cameras (DXC-5000).
The CV-5600 was mainly proposed in Europe to Hospitals as a cheap color recording device.
You're right !! but Crosby tried to develop a VTR of his own kind. Unfortunately he was not successfull and switched to audio tape recorders instead.....
Nope, thought they may have been used on occasions. This was 'prosumer' stuff in their age, not 'broadcast' equipment. The main field of use was 'institutional video', like schools, industry, formation, hospitals, etc...
This one comes from italy and may have been used in a private or pirate TV station in the 70's, who knows ?
Today, no TV uses reel to reel VTRs any more. It's all DIGIBETA, DVCAM, or computers......
From my own knowledge, this model may have been sold as early as 1971-72. Actually, the picture is slightly better than VHS. The electonics are obviously not as much sophisticated as VHS, but physical parameters, as tape speed, tape thickness, video tracks length compensate the ancient technology. At their own time, those machines were VER expensive and were top-hole technology, not a marketing gadget...
Nope, this is NOT an EIAJ, but rather a proprietary SONY format, kown as the CV format, which stands for 'Consumer Video'. It immediately predates the EIAJ format.
Ah yes, CV, I was not aware that Sony made a color version of CV, I always thought it was B/W only (I have an old CV-2200 deck laying in my storage space :) )
It takes me ages to clean a Sony tape and that includes running it several times through a machine with duff heads before trying to lift off anything worth salvaging on either EIAJ or Sony formats. Scotch tape is still OK but Sony and Memorex are lethal. Have you found the same?
Mostly. Scotch, Fuji, Panasonic are the best. SONY, AMPEX and memorex are the worst, especially SONY V-6X series. The usual procedure is to dehydrate the tape using temperature controlled oven or food dehydrator. The tape running on the 5600 is a SCOTCH....
Very cool. My high school had a couple of Sony open-reel 'portapak' VTR's that were used by students to make video projects for various classes. I wish I could have pursued a career in audio/video production. I love anything that has to do with video, especially vintage VTR's and TV cameras.
We are a little more than a handfull on the web collecting and taking care of these vintage video equipment. I can understand what you feel for these VTRs.
I vaguely remember those reel to reel video machines. It's a SONY and that's what I like. Did these machines have the capability of recording from television?
Unlike VHS or BETAMAX units, These reel to reel VTRs had no built-in tuners. In order to record off-air programs, you had to connect them to a TV receiver/monitor providing video and audio signals.
This one is rather stable. The overall characteristics are slightly superior to the VHS, and in-line with betamax, but the video preamps sometimes give some color banding and are easily over-modulated. Tapes are showing-up here and there on Ebay...
This machine is VERY RARE and highly sought after by anybody having an interest in vintage video recorders. I got many other gems in stock. Visit me at 'passions-incongrues'. Make a google search ....
I wish I never got rid of all the old wrestling stuff I taped in the '80s because some of the federations like the AWA are long gone...and most of the wrestlers are either retired or deceased.
Boeing744andRCAquad 2 months ago
Cool Retro Video!
mig189189189 5 months ago
The problem you must consider is one of copyrights. This can be very thorny. However, I have been able to locate obscure productions, that I assumed were lost for eternity, through diligent Google searches and also on Amazon. com.
videolabguy 9 months ago
Imagine the lost television shows that could have been saved if more people had these in the late 60s early 70's.
Concreteowl 10 months ago 2
@Concreteowl You got a point !
It's true that numerous TV shows have faded into oblivion because they were not home recorded at the viewer's end and wiped out or discarded at the broadcaster'send. This is also true for the early movie production in the 10's, 20's or 30's.... In the 1970's, VTRs were not affordable by the average customers.... Too bad !!
There's a trend on the net about Dr Who lost episodes on the net and the way some were rediscovered thanks to home recordings....
Best !!
graphos10 10 months ago
@graphos10 Yep. and a few old tapes from affiliate stations that didn;t get around to erasing them, and (I think) bits of one episode someone recorded by pointing an 8 mm film camera at their TV!
spacehelmetforacow 9 months ago
@graphos10 And that's just the most famous example. There are many more shows like Dad's army that have episodes missing.
Bucketstein 1 month ago
Nice picture still. Is this skip-field?
albertusj 1 year ago
@albertusj
Actually, no. You have to know that all the CV VTRs sold in EIA countries (using NTSC, like USA, JAPAN, etc..) were skip-field. The CV VTRs sold in CCIR countries (Europe, Australia, etc..) were all full-field.
Therefore, thic CV-5600P is full field. It records and plays both fields of each video picture.
Hope it's clear. Feel free to ask any question.
Best regards.
graphos10 1 year ago
@graphos10
Hi, I have one CV-5600P too! Im from Hungary, I think mine is one in my country. It has a little error, maybe one cap has defect (when I get some free time, I will repair it). The internal structure is very horrible: the cabling is a jungle, without detachable connectors. I could not found any service manual for it. It is very rare machine, well before semi-pro/amateur color VTR times (1967).
machineman303 11 months ago
@machineman303
Good for you !! The internal wiring is actually not a mess at all, but it comes from times when electronics were built differently. It's not a professional device, so it's built like consumer stuff. Service manual may be found on the intenet. I have it, of course, with all revisions for both the PAL and SECAM models. Check the caps, but also check the rubber tires and belts. Most faults come from ageing belts and tires. The electronics is rather well designed. Congratulations !
graphos10 11 months ago
@graphos10
Yes, it is a true transistorized stuff, with lot of discrete parts. I excited to show the schematics for historical reasons, not only for servicing. Can you suggest me a download link to service manual or a recommended supplier? But if you have it, I ready to buy a pdf copy from you by paypal payment at regular price. My VTR is a PAL version. Thank you for the quick answer.
machineman303 11 months ago
@machineman303
graphos10 11 months ago
@machineman303
There's a website called manual-on-pdf where it is available.
My wervice manuals are of the paper kind and no easy to scan.
Best regards
graphos10 11 months ago
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@graphos10
Hi, I have one CV-5600P too! Im from Hungary, I think mine is one in my country. It has a little error, maybe one cap has defect (when I get some free time, I will repair it). The internal structure is very horrible: the cabling is a jungle, without detachable connectors. I could not found any service manual for it. It is very rare machine, well before semi-pro/amateur color VTR times (1967).
machineman303 11 months ago
ZOMG Its Ultra rare amd expensive VTR
BlockKent 1 year ago
@BlockKent
Yes it was when sold new, and oddly it still is among the vintage VTRs lovers.
The only one I saw on Ebay sold fo more that 1.500 Euros.
Great to have one !!
graphos10 1 year ago
My high school used a 'portapak' reel to reel VTR, forget what brand though. It was used to record class projects and play back educational videos. One I remember was a video of an eye operation that I saw in my Applied Biology class.
PlaneAndTVtechfan 1 year ago
@PlaneAndTVtechfan
Yep, those VTRs were widely used in classrooms in the world, although these were rather EIAJs and not CVs, and were B/W, not colour.
Funny you mentioned the eye surgery recording, because the front page of this VTR's user's manual pictures a surgery field with color cameras (DXC-5000).
The CV-5600 was mainly proposed in Europe to Hospitals as a cheap color recording device.
Bruno
graphos10 1 year ago
You're right !! but Crosby tried to develop a VTR of his own kind. Unfortunately he was not successfull and switched to audio tape recorders instead.....
graphos10 2 years ago
Yes, I did that in the Army, but we used U-Matics instead.....
graphos10 2 years ago
You still can get one, not THIS one of course, but there are still reel-to-reel VTRs ofr sale on Ebay sometimes...
graphos10 2 years ago
You must be a teacher!
mig189189189 2 years ago
Nope ! Sorry !!
I'm in the finance/accounting business, but vintage video recorders is a passion....
graphos10 2 years ago
the they use those in tv studios
geordieboydave 2 years ago
Nope, thought they may have been used on occasions. This was 'prosumer' stuff in their age, not 'broadcast' equipment. The main field of use was 'institutional video', like schools, industry, formation, hospitals, etc...
This one comes from italy and may have been used in a private or pirate TV station in the 70's, who knows ?
Today, no TV uses reel to reel VTRs any more. It's all DIGIBETA, DVCAM, or computers......
graphos10 2 years ago
im into audio reel to reel not video i don't know why anyone would want a video one?
btown2011 2 years ago
I understand what you mean !
I own MANY audio R to R decks and I love them too !
Anyway, a reel to reel VTR is kinda MAGIC somewhere....
graphos10 2 years ago
It's one of the first Videorecorders of the History of Mankind.
W2QYVkz789 2 years ago
Not quite.....
There was Bing Crosby, then VERA, and Quadruplex, and many others before this one !!!
graphos10 2 years ago
How early was this thing made and does the picture look better or worse than VHS.
TVperson1 3 years ago
From my own knowledge, this model may have been sold as early as 1971-72. Actually, the picture is slightly better than VHS. The electonics are obviously not as much sophisticated as VHS, but physical parameters, as tape speed, tape thickness, video tracks length compensate the ancient technology. At their own time, those machines were VER expensive and were top-hole technology, not a marketing gadget...
graphos10 3 years ago
I can that the tape moves much faster that VHS. What is the run time and does it look as good as u-matic?
bumtownv2 2 years ago
Hi !
Run time is 1 hour with EIA (NTSC) Cv and 40 minutes with CCIR (PAL/SECAM) machines.
Nope, it doesn't look as good as U-matic. U-matic is more advanced and slightly more recent.
graphos10 2 years ago
Is the VTR pictured here a color EIAJ-format deck? (Also, pardon the million questions, but which movie is this playing back?)
pvx 3 years ago
Nope, this is NOT an EIAJ, but rather a proprietary SONY format, kown as the CV format, which stands for 'Consumer Video'. It immediately predates the EIAJ format.
The movie is 'The Lawnmower man',1992.
graphos10 3 years ago
Ah yes, CV, I was not aware that Sony made a color version of CV, I always thought it was B/W only (I have an old CV-2200 deck laying in my storage space :) )
pvx 3 years ago
That's because SONY only marketed color CVs in Europe and Australia (CCIR coutries).
A limited batch of 25 prototypes were made for the USA, but were nearly all scrapped, but two.
graphos10 3 years ago
I did not know that, quite interesting.
pvx 3 years ago
SO cool! WOW! I want one, a video reel-to-reel would be too cool!
CassetteMaster 3 years ago
I know what you feel.
Reel-to-reel VTRs turn up regularly on Ebay, but NOT this one.
You can get one for less that $ 100, depending on the model, its rarity or its features.
Good luck !!
graphos10 3 years ago
sure flies through tape :*)
VideoJunkei 4 years ago
Only 40 minutes per reel of tape....
graphos10 4 years ago
It takes me ages to clean a Sony tape and that includes running it several times through a machine with duff heads before trying to lift off anything worth salvaging on either EIAJ or Sony formats. Scotch tape is still OK but Sony and Memorex are lethal. Have you found the same?
ta455driver 4 years ago
Mostly. Scotch, Fuji, Panasonic are the best. SONY, AMPEX and memorex are the worst, especially SONY V-6X series. The usual procedure is to dehydrate the tape using temperature controlled oven or food dehydrator. The tape running on the 5600 is a SCOTCH....
graphos10 4 years ago
Very cool. My high school had a couple of Sony open-reel 'portapak' VTR's that were used by students to make video projects for various classes. I wish I could have pursued a career in audio/video production. I love anything that has to do with video, especially vintage VTR's and TV cameras.
kimberlyKfnOphiEAGLE 4 years ago
Thanks !!
We are a little more than a handfull on the web collecting and taking care of these vintage video equipment. I can understand what you feel for these VTRs.
Cheers !
graphos10 4 years ago
I vaguely remember those reel to reel video machines. It's a SONY and that's what I like. Did these machines have the capability of recording from television?
iabhornc 4 years ago
Unlike VHS or BETAMAX units, These reel to reel VTRs had no built-in tuners. In order to record off-air programs, you had to connect them to a TV receiver/monitor providing video and audio signals.
graphos10 4 years ago
I could've figured that was the case. Thanks for letting me know.
iabhornc 4 years ago
My gosh! That is so AWESOME!!
CassetteMaster 4 years ago
Right you are. This machine is one of the 5 survivors that I know of.
graphos10 4 years ago
Wow, I love it. How does it compare to VHS or Beta in your opinion? And where do you get tape for it???
littledingy 4 years ago
This one is rather stable. The overall characteristics are slightly superior to the VHS, and in-line with betamax, but the video preamps sometimes give some color banding and are easily over-modulated. Tapes are showing-up here and there on Ebay...
This machine is VERY RARE and highly sought after by anybody having an interest in vintage video recorders. I got many other gems in stock. Visit me at 'passions-incongrues'. Make a google search ....
Kind regards
graphos10 4 years ago