SSD Flash Hard Drives - Shmoocon 2008 - Part 1

[alienmode]

"i upload videos from hacker conferences but don't know how to de-interlace video" = fail

[Vox0707]

Both my WD 80GB hard drives still run, I have one in my 9yr old dell 8200 as of now, and the other is for back up incase this one dies. But so far there still going, both WD drives are now going on 7 to 8yrs old, still work. My advice, if you take good care of your hard drive it will take good care of you. BTW hi Scott, I use to be Vox2007, Great videos, keep em comin.

[ThePushupKing]

i just got a new external hard drive and dropped it and when i connect it to my computer it dosent read any files how much will it cost to repair it?

[flashforensics]

Continuing to make 1k......

(SFFA, I did actually like your animations of the little flash stick, which program did you use for that?)

Get hold of some manufacturers 'internal' Nand-flash data sheets.

Also I might be working on a 'novel' solution to a number of your highlighted situations, and those damned fake USB stick devices from China.

[flashforensics]

with only 500 characters that just aint possible.

Read:

1.Novel Read Disturb Failure Mechanism Induced By FLASH Cycling.

2.Read disturb in flash memories: reliability case

3.Disturb Testing in Flash Memories

4.Data Remanence in Flash Memory Devices

Basically he is 'way out' on how cells are stacked.

it is the voltages that are stacked.

And I am sick of hearing people say it is 100,000 erases.

that was before, with thicker gates, now it can be as low as 1,000 (yep thats right)

[flashforensics]

I'm afraid some of this information is very wrong, which is sad considering he spent a 'year' on it.

[SuperFlyFlippingA]

I would love it if you would let me know what you think is incorrect. Could you give us all some details so we might learn from your experience?

[arcelivez]

Ok, cut the shit, will somebody tell me if these drives are actually faster than the normal hard drives?

[BackyardSkunkworks]

IIRC They are.

[joesimmons90]

@arcelivez very much

[plusrep]

so what is better? please let me

[amphibia]

great presentation

[CandyHam]

man you're the best

No, you are correct, they aren't, but they serve the same purpose and people are just calling the Solid state hard drives. When a person hears optical drive, they know you're talking about a drive where you insert media such as DVD or Blu-ray. When you say hard drive though, they KNOW you're talking about the drive you never put anything into; the drive that your OS is on, your applications are on, and your porn is on (for most of us).

[magikarp99]

Yes, I agree this is a truly excellent presentation.

The thing is, while what you say is true, DVD and Blu-Ray ARE read by optical drives, that is correct. But it ISN'T correct to call an SSD a solid state hard drive. People at ShmooCon are going to realise an SSD isn't an optical drive.