Mark Thomas talks about the Digital economy Bill

[Liamski06]

Well said, Billy

[thethomasshowextra]

Leave mandalson alone he is only doing what we allow him & his power broker friends by saying nothing we say its all ok for them to make the rules that we live by but they as international diplomats do not have to adhere to so the only power they have is the one we give them by our silence and ignorance

[TechnologyTheReviews]

The thing about this is the people that do illegal download, even if they where cut off, they would still not buy it. These corporations say their losing millions when in fact their not, the down loaders would not normally buy it, or maybe could not afford it.These corporations earn billions and billions each year and they are greedy all they want is more. They should not have the right to cut someone off for a false accusation. They will find ways round it very quickly. The ISP's will not do it

[natmanprime]

wtf feargal sharkey??!?!?

this moddafoka pop out o nowhere sheit

[TrowbridgeHardcore]

tis funny beeause right this minuite im downloadin all marks channel 4 episodes via filesharing

[1977RiSK]

Another good reason to despise Fergal Sharkey.

[davidgbarron]

The media companies have lost control of the market. They can no longer tell their traditional markets what they can charge, think about how much CDs and Videos were in the 1980s and 1990s. The supermarkets, then online retailers drove prices down to the point that the media companies are not making large profits anymore. Then they were slow to realise the potential of downloading and are now blaming people for being more tech savvy then they are.

[djblade99]

Its crap, the companies have NOT LOST, they just haven't made as MUCH profit.

[inacrysis]

Wow so sad for the artist that make millions off crappy cd's with one hit song or movies that have good trailers but suck donkey ass. If I buy a song and want to share it with my friends not for money but b/c we are broke ass college students and cannot afford to keep buying crappy cd's who is the goverment to tell me what I can do with what I paid for? Dam I will be glade in a few more years when I have raped the U.S fat ass long enough I will be gone and will not care about what happens to usa

[loosecanonok]

Ah Mandelson, well that explains everything.

[hearNyou]

Was the transformation of Shergar Fartley into a torytwat wot did foar poor jonpeal ??

[jacksawild]

Perhaps people who make films and music shouldn't be making millions of pounds. Perhaps the people making millions of pounds should be those healing the sick or feeding the poor. Perhaps we resent spoilt teenage artists and faceless corporate executives driving around in Bentleys and living in mansions when nurses and outreach workers are struggling to pay their bills. Just perhaps.

[PuppetsNStuff]

@jacksawild Well it's kinda unavoidable that these people make that amount of money simply because Hollywood films are expensive to make. In order to pay all the people involved they are designated a percentage of the budget which is essentially a simplified way of how other businesses work out their workers wages. However films cost millions of pounds to make so a percentage of that budget is going to be higher than the budget of, say, a newsagents. The rest of your points make sense though.

[lemongrapesfilms]

The idiot who says people won't be creative without financial incentive is a massive tool.

[22YearOldBoy]

I care more about our freedoms and privacy than these huge companies missing out on their pocket money due to illegal file sharers. Think about it. Is it really worth sacrificing our digital privacy and freedom because greedy companies want their "change back"? If this act is put into place then all internet users will be closely monitored. That is like having to contend with a shoulder surfer at an ATM or the postman reading you mail before he posts it in your letter box. You have power! Use it

[TheKiemaster]

OMFG IT'S DEL BOY.

WHERE'S RODNEY.

[Nimbology02]

MARK THOMAS IS A HELMET!!!

[TheMvuser]

There is a thread on Gearslutz called.

( END of the Internet !! is there any truth to it ? )

It contains information about the NEW technology and regulatory framework underpinning the changes in technology that Governments are preparing for.

[Firesecret]

The digital economy bill needs to let people share music. Virgin Media are using CView because of Timms and Mandy!

[TheMvuser]

I just looked at maps.fon.com It's part of the Fon Wifi network. There are Wifi hotspots all over the UK and rest of the world. BT are investors in this network but they have potentially lobbied the UK Gov to close down open Wifi. Also, these Wifi Hotspots must be a subsystem of existing customers BT Broadband Home Hubs. do these customers know ?

[TheMvuser]

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[DackIsBack]

Someone's NOT making the millions that they used to make....

OH NOES!!! SHUT DOWN THE INTERNET AND FREESPEECH!!!

Monitor Everyone's Emails and Scan all internet traffic!!

[MrFilistine]

"Now I've got a cousin called Kevin

He's sure to go to heavin

Always spotless clean and neat

The smoothest you can get them..."

Don't sweat it Fergal - no one's going to be nicking that.

[axis9901]

All the media that inculcates you just defended themselves into a corner. Start listening to Indy music that doesn't buy into thier defended corner. The guts of the bill is they can monitor you but each individual can encrypt. So the bill is just a red herring.

[axis9901]

Corporations won't "get thier way" just move somewhere else cut out the middle man and stop consuming the media that buys into the bill.

[cheat12code]

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[AnEnemy100]

Will be interested to see how this affects all the businesses that have employees who watch movies on the sly while at work.

[loofoowho]

@Pwnagemerchant and @weestuburns. Come on people don't argue between each other , use the negativity at the controlling government to show them up for what they really are.....

30 years time = see how controlling they become

[galactigus20]

Piracy is the equivalent of a billionaire dropping a penny down a gutter. Instead of going on with their lives they would rather throw a fit and have the government look for said penny :D | To: Government, heres an idea get off your lazy asses and start doing something useful for society.

[perperperful]

This is just ridiculous!!! Avatar is the highest grossing film at box office...ever, the highest selling blu ray...ever, the fastest selling DVD... ever, yet it is the most pirated movie ever. People don't understand that a lot people who pirate movies also buy them or go to see them.

[runer4]

This bill will be raped to its knees by most British internet users within the first few weeks of it being law.

[yossariancomplex]

If the worst situation takes place and they actually heavily enforce this legislation there could be significant civil unrest.

[finsher2008]

Oh oh i just accidentally downloaded windows 7 which comes with a crack oops and ironman 2 oh shit i did it again curse my fingers. 1 week later internet disconnected ffs oh well i will call my mate ring ring alright mate can i borrow your avatar blue ray disc i want a copy of it

[weestuburns]

VOTE TORY!!!

[Pwnagemerchant]

@weestuburns fuck off, this might be Mandelson's creation, but the tories voted for it too, even though they acknowledged it was being rushed through and was full of BULLSHIT, they still decided they wanted this shit.

fuck labour, fuck the tories, fuck this bullshit bill.. BOYCOT THE MUSIC/FILM INDUSTRYS DONT GIVE THEM A PENNY, ONLY PIRATE AND TRIPLE YOUR DOWNLOADS ONCE THIS BILL BECOMES LAW!

[weestuburns]

@Pwnagemerchant

Elequently put you mindless potty mouthed pleb.

[Epicureanparadox]

@weestuburns Alas, that has done no good as well.

[22YearOldBoy]

Creative Artists want LISTENERS/VIEWERS. Greedy Labels/Organisations want MONEY.

[a41dog]

hang on, Lord MAndewlsohn is NOT an MP so how can he present a Bill to Parliament??

[banzostrummer]

First of all

It is not true that music and film industry are damaged by file sharing

Majors and Hollywood corp. are damaged

So this is corporations issue NOT industry issue

indie labels and production companies now have more market than in the past

the problem is the market is smaller, BUT the demand is very high!

So it is all their fault if they cannot monetize such high demand!

[DarkKnightBob1o1]

I love how the talktalk ceo downloads an MP3 illegally off the internet AWESOME!

[niktheanrkist]

If you are sick to death of the government, then vote. Vote for anyone that isn't a major party (not including the fascist parties obviously).

A Vote for someone else is a vote against the government. Not voting is not having a say at all.

[TheFreeman35]

@niktheanrkist not voting is just as much a say as voting,more so in fact..shows by numbers (somthing these wankers understand) that folks just aint feeling their touchy feely shite..

[phantomhacker90]

not voting in next election due to the fact the don't care about the people of this country there out to serve the corporation and banks well stuff'em I say I'm sick of nobody serving the people.the government are just fucking croupt bastards

i sick to death of our government

i don't care if film company are losing money they make plenty from ticket sales and dvd and blu ray and other merchandise.

[adztec77]

LIVE music - make money from that - EASY

[TheFreeman35]

@adztec77 keep music live,and honest..

[Sierra1905]

well said, there should be a set price like in the Crown Dependencies (e.g. Isle of Man) where they pay a fee (something like £14.99 for 2 Months) and can do p2p downloading

[itchycitizen]

rich get richer! coming from a CG background i see the work created by young and old using pirate software and it's helped the industry. How many Artists have used shared content and then used that to evolve the industry? my guess, a whole fucking heap of em ! And how much is this going to cost the tax payer, or are big biz paying for this pink elephant ?

[RossKaii]

Let's just moove to Sweedin

[Yamcha67]

This is B.S. I mean we are slowly giving away our rights.. this is unacceptable.. Its the future deal with it.. I mean the millions of dollars they make already isnt enough? do the people who are involved with films work harder then doctors? why should they make more then the average hard working person..

[the10ne1]

what a load of bolloks, this is outrageous to try and control the net......... fight this people

[fravalca]

we wouldn't have this problem if all this shit wasn't over priced. 60 $ for a new game. 1.30 $ for a 3 minute song. 20 -40$ for a movie. Just a rip off.

[ZidaneSteiner]

@fravalca

its $60 for the retail game + $15 for Downloadable content + $15 for more Downloadable content = $90 a game.

[judodan]

They keep mentioning protecting music and films. But what if I want to download an old book on the Lezgian language that is out of print and impossible to buy. Will they send me a warning letter for this? I am stealing from an author who died 80 years ago and he is making no profit because I downloaded his book for free?

[MrWaferbiscuit]

Would you let a complete stranger strip you NAKED to see if you were wearing fake underpants?

NO WAY!!!!

[PNACATTACKdotCOM]

Thanks for uploading Andy :)

PNAC 1 goal is total control of internet

[curlymolly70]

Anyone else outraged that Feargal Sharkey knows more about the legislation than your local mp, journalists, and all of us combined?!

Is anyone suprised?

Someone should murder a lord. Corrupt fucker mandy screwing the man on the street, who seen that one coming, he had LORD in his fucking title, not even elected!!!

Yeah.

I said it. mi5 and nsa are coming. With the bpi riaa irma and trading standards.

[curlymolly70]

Why was Allan Ellis (OINK Admin) arrested as the BBC were filming in THE BACK OF THE POLICE CAR?

HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?

WHO IS RESPONSIBLE?

[norrisnuvo]

this idea that creative people will not create without payment is total rubbish

[Pentosfilms]

Disappointing to see Feargal Sharkey's morphed into a corporate rent boy

[DaveBloustien]

@Pentosfilms I don't think that's what he's saying. There's an argument for getting ISPs to pay a bit for access to sources so that film and music are free online.

[DidntKnowWhatToPut1]

ugh..Its times like these where I wish the government would stay out of people's privet business

[nemesis700]

what is he talkin about when he was talkin about japan and three strikes?

also does this law apply to streaming?

[DidntKnowWhatToPut1]

@nemesis700 yep; something like watching a Southpark episode online is dangerous now

[nemesis700]

well fuck it then. im movin to france, cuz the british public aint goin to do shit bout it

[longdongriver]

Boo to the british version of the "Patriot act" that allows govt to spy on not only downloads, but the real reason, to spy on internet activity of anyone, anytime, with no just cause.

WE WILL FIGHT THIS AND WE WILL WIN!!!! If america has Obama and is being turned around, but were stuck with shitty gordon, we must find a way round ourselves!

[MrWaferbiscuit]

BLUE MEANIES!

[KinnieMagic]

Stephen Timms, the genius that thinks an IP address is an Intellectual Property address. What a donkey. Hopefully this pathetic bill will fail especially when it hits legitimate trade whether it be online fashion stores, book stores, ebay etc as people get cut off in their hundreds of thousands.

[TrooperRandal]

It's up to the music and film industry to find a way to get the consumer back to the retailer and purchase the product, it is not up to the government to fix the industry's problem.

CDs and DVDs cost more than people are willing to pay for them, and people will find a way to get the product at a cheaper price if not for free on the internet where the artist or the record label will not make money from it!

[jgilb100]

music is not about the money and most genuine bands can see that but both the record labels and....twats like metallica oppose fileshareing because it impedes them from lining their own pockets most bands don't even make money yet manage to exist

both the film industry and music industry make plenty from cinemas and gigs anyway, has a free download ever deterred you from going to leeds or reading festival?, thought not

this bill is immoral and not worth it

[marc1sound]

Talk about Hollie Greig Mark

[airscrew1]

The music industry has been ripping off the public for years. Now we're just getting even and they are squealing like pigs because the trough has been taken away from them.

[yuradumas]

I can watch free movies and listen to free music on youtube all day. Is anyone bitching about that?

[BrutusCass]

This risks becoming the first step in outing people from society, making them none people.

[kryton555]

Make music and films cheaper. The artist get virtually nothing anyway. People would not download illegally if it did not cost the earth. Most of the music pumped out today is shit anyway.

[kitten123456779]

Dont buy corporate media, CD's DVD's paid music downloads etc again. Also newspapers and TV. Only use free stuff. Starve these bastards of the funds to do these things.

[Fight4Privacy]

The government is out of touch with the wishes of the people. I thought we where living in a democratic society?

[CelticReject]

@Fight4Privacy Think again. We're living in a very controlled society. Verging on totalitarianism. The powers that be are intent onrunning every moment of our lives. And it'll happen unless we do something to prevent it. Problem is 80% of the populace are brain dead to this and bemused by television/celebrity/fear etc.

[Fight4Privacy]

@CelticReject

Your right, a lot of the people I know don't really care or know what it really going on. Most people would rather watch the TV mindlessly whilst been downloaded with new programming. I think it's time for people to become truth seekers.

[pwjm]

ITS NOT ABOUT PIRACY!!!! Come on guys.. it's the ability to get unbiased information from around the world INSTANTLY that scares the crap out of the government. The internet is really the only source of free speech and independent information/news available anymore... it's no wonder the big corps and the government want to control what goes on it and who gets to view it.

[longdongriver]

pwjm good god you couldnt be more RIGHT!

Govt wants to control alcohol consumption with the challenge 25, ciggarettes age limit is 18 now, not 16 anymore, this is the third step and this one allows Britain to do what america has been doing for year using the "patriot act" (at least as bullshit as it sounds) to spy on on whoever they want without reason, email, phone, finace, and business records. We will fight this and we will win!

[emuholic]

what's really bad is people are going to have to pay for the costs that trying to enforce something stupid like this is going to bring either by tax or increased broadband subscription charges. joe average will essentially be paying to get screwed.

[IPUNCHEDALION]

IM TALKING IN ALL CAPS

[IPUNCHEDALION]

Fuck the bpi

[IPUNCHEDALION]

MAKE THEM SHIT BLOOD FOR WEEKS

[emuholic]

the music industry especially hasn't given us anything to warrant paying out good money for anything they put on the shelves. it's mostly all rehashed shit repackaged with the most artificial looking manufactured bands made up of talentless teenagers. enough's enough.

[anogramatic]

127 likes, 0 dislikes. Everyone with a brain is thinking what Thomas is saying.

[osdias]

Let them pass draconian legislation and download only Creative Commons Licensed music. Look up Jamendo as an example.

[5ivelo]

Great vid, thanks.

[GeraldP1983]

Thanks for sharing this! :D

[sony8877]

god people in the government cant really believe what theyre acutally saying, they must be fucking brainwashed to say these things, if normal people worked in the government then things like this would e laughed at, ut people in gov are power grabbing freaks who cant fit in anywhere else, and so get off on telling the country what they can and cant do, it will always be that way

[sony8877]

they are not stealing things by sharing their content, once somebody has bought a copy of a cd, he is free to do what he wants with it, share it, eat it, it doesnt matter, if he cannot do what he wants then he doesnt own it, like we dont own our money because we are not allowed to destroy it, but thats a different (similar) story. they want to institutionalise music of all things, music is a powerful tool to revolt against the establishment and to spill creative thoughts, its sick

[HumanSayNo]

Fergal Sharkey is an ass hole. He is a greedy bastard who cant sell his shite music and wants to be cut into the New World Order by backing the Digital Economy bill. This is the information war and the truth behind this bill/act is that its all about hiding the truth from the public. What truth u ask? I say the truth that terrorism is a tool of the state and their excuse for advancing the police state and punishing people for doing the most mundane activities. Expect more acts like this one!

[oocares]

Mmmmm, Stephen Timms - minister for Digital Britain was under the impression that "IP address" referred to "intellectual property", rather than internet protocol. This level of expertise is truly awe inspiring!

[imageaware]

Feargal Sharkey has no idea what he is going on about.

If I took an 'Undertones' record and replaced the label with the name of a new band, Feargal would be the first to complain to the courts. Yet this bill actually encourages end users of photographs to strip away the file details from a photo and pretend that the copyright owner was untraceable.

This would make the picture an 'Orphan work' with a small token fee to be paid into a general fund.

Nothing would go to the Photographer!

[TheTempestSpark]

Mwaaahahahaha If a bit of software or a government bill can control your habits, your screwed!!. my skills are in computing and elsewhere (which the music industry and governments get for free and use) where's my rights! it stinks of rotten fish!!

[Liquadia]

love to see how youtube gets effected! theres tones of shit here which has copyright information! They lost hundreds and millions of pounds! of course Drop your prices they make millions just off 1 song. 10 songs? and they get 10 million its insane! i smell GREED money is the route to all evil. time to fuck off from the uk

[Chom84]

This whole law is a joke. Whats to stop people logging into there neighbours internet and downloading? people will always find a way round it, you cant stop the internet.

[Avionicgenius]

It's called file sharing, not file stealing. How can you steal a sequence of 1's and 0's. Being an electrical engineer I laugh at these companies. We created the TECHNOLOGIES that they profited from, now we've ADVANCED. The whole distribution of old is no longer needed. They need to get in touch with the real world. Once the recording equipment costs have been recovered, the price of albums should be pennies, and free after 10 years.

Seriously should teachers demand royalties?

[Yamcha67]

@Avionicgenius

+1 couldn't have said it better myself

[hivemindsean666]

@Avionicgenius I agree with you. I think once something like an album has been in the public domain for a lenght of time you can not expect to be making money from it forever

[satansdaughters]

djdnauk1977 ...good point

I was saying this to others today about the other part of the bill where the gov can if they believe a web site maybe a of a national securty threat. A court order to put a block on the web site will be enacted ...such as web site that promote conspirisy threoies, wikileaks and a lot of other site,

[MrStratofish]

If the media manufacturers actually provided a modern digital service which reflected the lower cost of manufacture/distribution and proper ownership (no DRM, aka 'futureproof' as they like to say) I'd be happy to pay to use it.

I haven't been to the cinema or downloaded illegally for 3-4 years now so I have to wait for the DVD to come out or (more often) don't bother.

It's their loss not mine. Time they got their heads out of their arses and came into the modern era offering a real service.

[djdnauk1977]

not sure how people are still missing the SINISTER facts here, people can commit piracy using VPNs whether this goes through or not but the government can CENSOR/BAN websites under this bill (in fact all of the 3 main parties supported that clause) which means theyll probably ban free information websites like wikileaks that release information about government cover ups etc... that is a removal of human rights and a massive breach of free speech!! we need to do something about this and fast!

[thebroomroom]

Freedom is becoming just a word rather than one of our basic civil liberty's and soon the only way we will be able to achieve it will be to buy it from the MP's just as companies can buy new laws that suit them. Money talks and freedom walks.

[syntaxiko]

Despicable that this has passed...

[Fieldhouseuktube]

brilliant video

[stivante]

a law that makes most of the population criminals, should not be a law in the first place.

[TheMvuser]

@stivante 

[IKWerewolf]

More like the "Ministry of Truth" in "1984". The government wants the power to pass laws without the need for Parliament. They need stopping now before they are allowed to enter the slippery slope.

[nothingelseis]

Sadly, accusing the Tories and Labour party of being one and the same might be the most effective way of having the #DEBill thrown out. I'm so angry that these two parties should be so stupid and arrogant. #labservative Please Google "Labservative manifesto" and see what I mean.

[songwaters]

how will it be an obstacle for the creative people? they will have the right to legally give out content that they created for free if they want. imprtantly it vil become their own decision.'information'?music,m­ovies,games,sftware. 'infrmation' that wuldnt have been there if the creative people hadnt riskd their lives, career,money on in the first place.RIAA will die neway, 2 many good altrnativs for musicians now.this bill would end up helping artists, after the douche labels have died.

[moosemasher]

Sooo, if the industries are under threat, why are they recording record profits on films and if they are losing out on so much money, how come they are all still richer than any filesharer?

"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master. "

[mush01]

Aside from the piracy argument: the government wants to future-proof the bill, so they give themselves the ability to bypass Parliament and change the law without asking anyone? No! That's not how it's meant to work! This government's been doing this with so many different bits of legislation, and that trend really worries me. We need *more* scrutiny of what the government is doing, not less.

[songwaters]

@mush01 if they dont future proof it then everyone will start going on about how law is lagging behind after new bypassing technologies become popular.

this whole drama will happen all over again cz some new p2p technology wud come. a flexible law seems the only option, dosent it? its not him sitting pn his desk and changing national policy, just updating the law to deal with new piracy technology. and he has to take permission and stuff, just fewer ones, that dont take 5 years to go through.

[sweetypie000]

now they have enough people hooked on the net and make people pay through the nose for it they want to tell you it's naughty

this sounds like cigarettes, booze and anything else they hook people on to make them slaves and dig into their pockets

they have done the same with cars - they keep selling them yet penalise drivers more and more every year financially because of the so called pollution they make (pale in comparrison to industry emiisions)

NWO is here

are you a puppet or a master?

[absalutebeginner]

@sweetypie000 well said sweety you summed it up in 3 paragraphs good work

[sweetypie000]

1. the government don't want people to have free information - regardless what it is

2. this would have been implemented years ago if the ISP's had reasonable download speeds, rental and d/l quotas. Why ? because the ISP are calling the shots. They stop downloading of free stuff then people are going to leave their ISPs and the ISP will lose the £20-30 a month. The ISPs call the shots = tax for government

[sweetypie000]

3. Wardriving will increase. This will lead to more money having to be spent by ISP's to implement more secure routers. People will be turned off by possible legal action over their wireless and could ultimately make people stop using it in their homes.

4.the internet has got way out of hand. it's public domain not a corporate tool for government. Companys are making enough money with enough ads on the net - youtube and the like

5. most films and music out there is garbage

6. can't stop it

[PiPphiltitley]

if you like this watch

TheAntiTerrorist on Romancing the DATA

[digitalisthedevil666]

greedy big business killed the internet years ago

[jin37uk]

if these greedy corporations didn't charge such ludicrous markups on their products then maybe piracy wouldn't be such a big problem.

[FakingAmnesia]

As an artist and as the founder of a netlabel, I know for a fact that money isn't why I do it. If governments actually listened to people, they'd realize things like that. Good for the BBC and everyone involved for producing something balanced and not some one-sided propaganda. Also, Billy Bragg is now my favorite artist.

[p3rks]

"if people can't be paid for their creativity, they will stop being creative"

Says it all, do they really believe this?! - As with so many NuLab ideas, if it wasn't so scary it'd be hilarious.

[CursedExistence]

that is the issue at the very heart of the matter, which people just can't seem to understand.

people will NOT just stop making music because there's no (or less) money in it. why is that so hard to understand?

[PiPphiltitley]

i know what ya mean mate! its done for the love and passion.

but i would say research the beeb before you praise it mate.

there a bit more mmm clever/sneaky for want a a better word than your fox cnn ect. all proper-gander bullsh!t this is what a factual documentary should be like ....../watch?v=gx00A4xil3M

hope you like it.

stay safe pip

[dfl1955]

A very balanced article, good on Mark Thomas and good on the BBC for publishing it.

[mcsnugglesaids123456]

Oh and the 'services' that get around the bill are simply are a VPN which you can pay for or are free. The DEB is totally out of date and pointless. why cant the industries adapt (and get rid of DRM - which is why theres so much piracy)

[mcsnugglesaids123456]

I've been creative all my life, never been paid for it. what a retarded argument.

[DJAttorney]

Well said - there are quite a few of us in the Industry who do not support this. Fergal Sharkey does not speak for me or my label.

[cosy18]

simple just download freenet just google freenet project

[captainmcdan]

"The internet is as vital as water and gas" - Gordon Brown

[appleof88]

a nice and fair balance to this argument

mark thomas is one of the few people left who still cares

[ScarySpider]

The internet is tubes?

[villa72]

No no no, it's a SERIES of tubes.

[psdowney]

"if people can't be paid for their creativity then they'll stop being creative" — says Stephen Timms, MP, rather strangely and against all my experience.

[UrbanMage79]

My sentiments exactly.

[ChannelFadge]

@psdowney no no, its true! everyone knows that all inspiration springs from a big wad of cash... all those songs and poems and paintings made in the name of the great paycheck... before money was invented there was no art whatsoever... :P

[jsmythib]

The film and music industry might want to take into account that we, the ordinary citizen can now produce professional grade music..Movie creation is not far behind...The Epicenter for content creation is becoming outdated. Its going to MUCH BETTER! Cheers! =-)