Vision of Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) for San Francisco

[RichKilla86ers]

This concept is better than charging drivers or more like ripping off drivers coming in-and-out of SF

[HendrixnTonic]

I got another idea. How about you space out stops instead of every block or every other block to every 4-5 blocks?  That would make commutes so much quicker. The most anyone would have to walk would be 2-3 blocks.. thats nothing, our fat asses need it.

[tech4156]

the BRT will make millions and cut traffic vastly, TBH they should have had this decades ago

[Baron2yahoo]

@tech4156 yeah they did, it was called the subway.

[jemdude22]

better yet if the buses running on BRT lines are electric trolleybuses. BRT is cheaper than LRT as it does not require steel tracks laid into the streets.

[daehannp]

jakarta have the most longgest BRT track in the world, we call it trans jakarta busway :)

[91puzzlesolver]

this seems a good idea, but, despite the fact of how attractive it looks on a diagram, imagine the traffic on Van Ness... its horrible!!! and adding that you're cutting 4 lanes, the traffic will be morbidly unthinkable and horryfing, I'd vote for a subway system or more frequent buses, honestly, BRT on Van Ness is not a good idea, from my point of view

[theraptorfan100]

@91puzzlesolver

The fact that traffic will be so bad will be all the more reason to take the bus.

[shortsf]

If we have center islands, then we will have to get low buses that have doors on both sides of the bus. Hopefully we won't have many accidents from doors opening on the wrong side.

[mikokat]

@utterbullspit San Francisco has been operating trolley buses since 1935.

[murfreebear]

Nashville has a BRT now. They are adding the elements slowly but surley. The platforms and light signaling are going in as we speak.

[sideslide23]

yeah at 2:53 thats what I'm talking about.

[utterbullspit]

I'm very glad you San Francisco has decided to go with the trolleybus system. It's much more environmentally friendly than just plain 'ole buses.

[sideslide23]

trolleybus work out great in San Fransisnco on the Vanees and Geary they sould make their bus electrified with their bus rout like this

[bmp713]

This is ok ONLY if it will later be converted to light rail. The section near downtown should be subway however. If there was also a subway line under Van Ness with a central station connecting the two lines then SF would finally have a world class transit system.

[bythefault]

Wrong. Light rail is 10x more expensive than a BRT. Moreover when you have a light rail breakdown, the whole system can go down as happened recently here in SF with a derailment in the West Portal tunnel. The K, L, M and T lines were shut down for an entire day. That wouldn't happen in a BRT system. One bus breaking down doesn't crash the whole system. Light rail has advantages but BRTs are more flexible, can be built in a matter of months and less cost prohibitive.

[Salvia02390]

People aren't as willing to take buses as they are to take a trolley or the metro, for mere aesthetic reasons and misconceptions. That's the hardest challenge to overcome

[Baron2yahoo]

@Salvia02390 it's because most bus systems are cheap and unappealing to the general public. Buses are already used in most cities of the world as alternative forms of personal transit and serve little to no role in actual economic development.

[vstxdj]

my question is, who made that beat?

[mobilitymatters]

Nice - I like the trolleybus option with the centre platform. A couple of questions:

1) Will the payment method allow for multi-door boarding?

2) Will the platforms be level with the doors allowing strollers and mobility scooters to roll straight in?

3) Are the busways fully separate from regular traffic throughout the network?

4) Will there be passing capacity at some stations to enable express routes?

5) What will the spacing be between stations?

Best wishes!!

[krizvasa]

Good luck! I hope you will built it. It is very important to reduce car individual transport and to built public transportation system. BRT isn´t as nice as trams or subway but it important for environment.