The reason Obama hasn't been assassinated yet is because it seems only presidents who want to change things get killed. JFK wanted to change things and was killed for it. Do you think Obama is smarter than we give him credit for? He's protecting his own ass, not from some lone nut assassin, but from everyone around him and the military industrial process....
@essie311 Comedian Bill Hicks said it best: On Inauguration day the new president gets taken to a dark, smoky room. Sitting around a table are the wealthiest industrialists in the world staring at him. One of the men says "show him the tape" . The new president then watches the well known assassination footage, but its clearer and from a never before seen angle. The guy at the head of the table stops the tape and says... "any questions?".
If LBJ was dumped from the ticket by JFK, North Carolina Governor Terry Sanford was the LIKELY choice for VP in 1964.
The FBI were going to whack MLK regardless who was in the Oval Office, it was only a matter of time and plus Dr. King was a marked man from the start.
THE MISTER X CHARACTER IS A GENERAN NAMED FLECTHER PROUTY............. RESEARSH HIS NAME,,, HE SAYS THE SAME THINGS IN REAL LIFE........ THATS TOP SECERT ............ FLECTHER PROUTY
Best questions you can ask @8:07 why was kennedy killed, Who benefited, who has the power to cover it up. Its like 9/11 Why were the three towers destroyed, who benefitedfrom it, who had the power to cover it up.
(I.e. over a million civilians in Iraq have been slaughtered already likewise to Vietnam and the elite are profiting immensely while the vast majority of Americans suffer injustices such as a mitigated quality of life as a result of this tyranny) as they certainly commenced due to resources available for this elitists while debt is rapidly enhancing and perhaps is already unsustainable. Lastly, absolute power evidently corrupts absolutely.
(CONT’D #2) Consequently, the unjust and unnecessary war was absolutely essential for the power elite in order to generate hundreds of billions of dollars in capital (for the select few situated in this strata). Moreover, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are quite similar presently….
(CONT'D) Furthermore, JFK's policy of American withdrawal from Vietnam by 1965 upon being re-elected (which was presumably a certain outcome) and implementing a program of "vietnamization" (training and financing the South Vietnamese to carry out their own war) was the reason he met his demise because the elite (bankers, military industrial complex and incredibly powerful companies that wanted to obtain contracts to produce rather remarkably expensive weapons for the war (I.E. helicopters).
Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty is the character Mr. X is portraying (certainly with no inaccuracy) and any critical thinkers should certainly purchase his 2 books (1. JFK: The CIA,Vietnam and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy; 2. The Secret Team: The CIA & Its Allies in Control of the United States and the World) in order to decipher how the elite consolidated power (i.e. the David Rockefeller's of the world) and have obviously retained that power since the assassination…
You can say what you want about accuracy, but even if you don't believe Oliver Stone, this a great movie with great performances. This is a hell of a lot of dialogue for Donald Sutherland
This is all 100% true.Col Fletcher Prouty was Mr X.Check out the HSCA testimony of Col Robert E. Jones.He sent 8-12 plain clothes soldiers to Dealey Plaza on 11-22-63.One of them,James Powell was found inside the TSBD after the shooting.
Jfk one of the best movies of all the times great edition and assembly the critiques on a possible conspiracy in the death of jfk cannot cover the perfection of this movie Directed masterfully by oliver stone
@assparade001 Bullshit. It is evident for everyone, who'd read the Warren report, that is Oswald was a scapegoat. Stone gets very near to the propable truth here
@TitusFlavius79 Are you a retard? Being catholic was enough of a hurdle, having a black vp would've given him no shot. I hate stupidity, it's a pet peeve of mine.
Respond to this video... You have to be a moron, who likes sticking their foot in their mouth to avoid realizing that the conspiracy is real. First of all, idiots who don't believe, explain why he was receiving $200 a month from the FBI as a potential informant. This supposed loner no body who acted alone? That fact alone blows the lid off the official story. End of discussion, thank you and good day.
Might I add that Christian David from France had mentioned that an assasin from the Corsican Mafia, a fellow by the name of Lucien Sarti was contracted for the shooting...FBI placed Sarti in Mexico City on the 21st of November.
Strange things indeed . THe DEM. party itself was fragmenting. that Kennedy himself knew the risks involved going down there. The truth in Mr. X's dialouge is the lack of security provided for JFK. JFk barely won the presidency and to let him strut like that in Tex. was insane. JFK was in tex. w/a bullseye on his face. And taking the route they took and that crazy turn? It was like letting serpico go first into that bldg. Not providing adequate sec. for a head of state is a conspiracy.
there was no conspiracy on the death of JFK. alot of people cannot logical agree that a nobody like oswald shot a somebody like JFK, anyway alot of other people like to take the JFK assassnination in one line with alot of other historical events in history and called every of them a conspiracy because not of the reason there cannot accept those historical events as a logical event. those like to use very wired conspiracy theorys to get simply advertence and money.
yes thats right translationwiz, the lack of a good security around JFK was a big mistake. JFK and his predecessor like Eisenhower or specially Truman refuse to have a big group of agents around them for security . there is the key dilemma point of every politican person in the world to be a achievable public person for the people and to have in the same time a good security grouop around.
@TitusFlavius79 your wrong kennedy never refused secret service or told them to get off the back of the car, thats all a lie. even if he did why were the windows allowed to be open and overpasses unchecked? why did the 1st say they found a german mauser on the 6th floor? how did ruby get into the police station? how does 1 bullet make 7 wounds and end up on the wrong stretcher in parkland hospital basically undamaged? why was the motorcade route &arrangement changed last minute? all coincidence
More: A week before it was published Ruby in his Carousel Club showed Madeleine Brown a copy of the motorcade route; LBJ's SS team made the 90 degree turn @ Elm St. The SS destroyed their detail report re: security standdown. Kennedy fired Gen. Cabel who was Dallas Mayor's brother. Police Chief Curry covered-up & denied Ruby's long-time association as Mob/Police gopher. FBI & Dallas Police intimidated & even threatened witnesses to Grassy Knoll gunfire ... And on and on, overwhelming evidence.
oh well again a inside job guy. listen the 9/11 truth movement is based on lies and disinfos like this alex jones guy. there are want only make money with all her lies like 9/11 was a inside job.
Controlled demolitions are carried out with explosives. These make a noise.
No skyscraper the size of WTC7 has ever been imploded. The nearest we can get are the implosions of the Hudson's Department Store (the tallest building ever imploded, at 33 stories and 134 meters at its highest point) and the Landmark Tower, Fort Worth (the second tallest building ever imploded, at 30 stories and 116 meters).
As we have seen above, firefighters expected the collapse of the building, on account of the structural damage, the extent of the fire, the sagging and bulging of the building, and the creaking noises it was making. Moreover, as we have seen above, the building started to collapse eight seconds before the initiation of global collapse. There is, then, no mystery to be explained as to why WTC7 came down: it fell down because it was falling down for the reasons that it was expected to fall down.
But explosions were heard. In fact, the explosions were heard on video.
No skyscraper the size of WTC7 has ever been imploded.
Yes, it was imploded. Granted, there has never been a building that large to be professionally demolished, but it isn't impossible.
Afterall, It does fit with a standard act of implosion. Orderly, top-to-bottom, internal structural collapse and it's acceleration downward at freefall speed into its own footprint. Classic implosion.
Most of the CIA leadership around the invasion of Cuba seems to have been people from Texas. A whole Texan branch of the CIA is based in the oil business. If we trace Bush's background in the Texas oil business we discover his two partners in the oil-barge leasing business: Texan Robert Mosbacher and Texan James Baker. Mosbacher was Secretary of Commerce and Baker was Secretary of State, the same job Dulles held when JFK was killed.
The CIA put Texas millionaire and CIA agent George Bush in charge of recruiting Cuban exiles into the CIA's invasion army. Bush was working with another Texas oilman, Jack Crichton, to help him with the invasion. A fellow Texan, Air Force General Charles Cabel, was asked to coordinate the air cover for the invasion.
Nixon told Pepsi, Standard Oil and other corporations who lost property given back to the farmers of Cuba, that if they would help him win, he would authorize an invasion to remove Castro. To further impress contributors to his campaign, then Vice-President Nixon asked the CIA to create Operation 40, a secret plan to invade Cuba, just as soon as he won.
Here's a fun fact.A good friend of J Edgar Hoover & LBJ was David H Bryd who owned a building in Dallas called the TSBD.Byrd was also part owner of an aerospace company that was awarded huge military contracts after LBJ became President.
He was also a good friend and business partner of Clint Murcheson, who employed a fellow by the name of Mac Wallace...Incidentally..wallace's latent fingerprint wasa found on one of the boxes in the room where Oswald supposedly shot Kennedy
General Charles Cabel was Deputy Director of the CIA for 9 years until being fired by JFK for the bay of pigs.His brother Earl Cabel just happened to be Mayor of Dallas on 11-22-63 & had total control of the Dallas PD.
Given that the Dallas PD had nothing to do with Kennedy being assassinated, I fail to see the connection here. Are you suggesting that a different mayor would have prevented it?
Imagine how much money Bell Helicopter made during the Vietnam war.Micheal Paine and his wife helped plant Oswald in the TSBD building.Its interesting that Mr Paine happened to be an engineer for Bell Helicopter with security clearance.
Southerland IS playing Col. L Fletcher Prouty. Check wiki, imdb.
Prouty wrote several books (he spoke w/garrison before the trail a few times according to his book) stating that it was a military coup. This man was a full Col. in the army and head of sp ops at the time of the murder. He's no flake.
the CIA tried to discredit him for speaking out.If there is nothing to hide then why would they attack him?The CIA tried to buy every copy of his book "The Secret Team" I believe it was,but they printed more.
If it is not a conspiracy then why all the covered up things? Im not saying Oswald wasnt shooting but he had help. Why not take the easy shot? Why wait till the car turns down to the grassy knoll? Anyone can see that something wasnt suppose to be known. Look up Ferrie in Wilklipedia and youll see him and Oswald were friends when Oswald was as young as fifteen. Funny huh?
The magic bullet theory is such an insult to peoples intelligences. A bullet like that is impossible, therefore there was more than one shooter. A lady said that she saw smoke by the picket fence. Its been a while since i seen this movie but thats what i remember.
And you think that a bullet can stand still in mid-air for 1.6 seconds? I was in the Army I never heard anything that stupid in my life. JFK's murder was a conspiracy from the start and nothing's going to change my mind about it.
Undoubtedly there was a conspiracy because of the constant flow of disinformation surrounding the whole thing, such as Prouty's rants. While Prouty was most likely correct to a large degree, like most good disinformation guys, they spew 90% truth and then mix in 10% of downright bullshit. By the way, LBJ was no right winger. He was a big government prick like Bush. Partisanship is for sheep. As Prouty said, "Part of the scenerey, right?"
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LBJ was a right-winger? The truth is conspriracy theorist are mostly nutballs that know nothing about history. For one thing, JFK had no intention of withdrawing troops from Vietnam. He is quoted on the eve of his death as saying if we withdrew troops from Vietnam it would fall the next day. That is a fact, look it up. Kennedy was a rapid anti-communist...no evidence of his intention of withdrawing troops has been discovered. Sorry, there was no government conspiracy.
Wow...you people are so paranoid! Since when does Hollywood ever do anything with total accuracy, it is entertainment! Just because Oliver Stone says it's true that does not make it so.
1)JFK had no mention of what Garrison based his case on : Perry Russo .
2)Clinical Psycho? Garrison was relieved of duty in the Nat. Guard. Drs @ the Brooke Army Hosp. in Tx diagnosed "severe & disabling psychoneurosis".."interfered w/his social & prof. adjustment to a marked degree." Garrison "is considered totally incapacitated from the standpoint of military duty & moderately incapacitated in civilian adaptability," recommended long-term psychotherapy. See Case Closed, p. 423.
Goofle Dave Reitzes site and you will find 100 provable lies to the fabricated and monsterous canopys of Oliver Stones epic historical floperrroo 'JFK' . It's well known that his embarraddment afterwards sent him into a drunken stupor so badly that during his 'Victory Cruise' aboard the Liner SS Prickly Heat he was nearly washed overboard and was only saved by the ships 'Kitchen Unit' who found him entangled on a ships side railing ranting about "This is a Con-Spiracy" ......
Broadwaymungo, I'd recommend reading non- U.S. authors. Eduardo Galeano from Uruguay's S.A. trilogy, especially 'Century of Fire', which is an 'easy' read- beautiful prose/poetry;
educational and enlightening. Pablo Neruda,
writing about Allende's Chile, 'Fire From the Mountain' by Cabezas...the list is very long, and I can recommend more if you llke.
much of what he says about CIA involvement in Latin America is true. read Bill Blum's book on US interventions since WWII, and get all the dirty details.
Definitely. The US has been exploiting the people and land of South America for centuries. Research United Fruit Company for just one example of this tyranny.
Now it's the Middle East for its abundance of oil. If pigeon fat contained petroleum you bet they'd face extinction!
Why? JFK in WWII worked 5.6 miles from Barbara Pierce who would suddenly become Mrs. G.H.W. Bush in January 1945. Barb quit Smith College in Massachusetts close to Kennedy again suddenly and with good grades. Pregnant students were not allowed at Smith. That was the real motive for JFK's killing. The baby? That's W. Looks like J.P. Kennedy, doesn't he?
The Vietnam War was the result of "good old fashioned decision making at government level." I would say it was more then that every politician has an agenda.
Every country's foreign policy is activated and engaged in to further its commercial and national interest. Don't tell me you think Vietnam was just about stopping communism?
And what would you say this war in Iraq is about? Which company is now making trillions from this war? Halliburton and Brown Kellogg Root.
Firstly we have not spammed anything when the Founders of YouTube originally started this website they set these very comment section boxes up to make comments.
Secondly I hope I have given you some interesting points to think about also.
A message to all Americans tell you Federal Government to stay out of the worlds affairs, stop deposing legally elected governments and for the sake of world peace STOP invading countries.
But your government under Merkel does support the War on Terror, how many troops do you have in Afghanistan again? And are they not under the command of NATO?
first and foremost I am not a conspiracy theorist. I don't believe in labels.
As an Australian I am open to things that I have no absolute proof for. Say the wind for example you feel it see its effects but you cannot actually see it. But its real.
I know that you as an German the home of Hegel and all those other existentialist philosphers would require proof.
So maybe your not open to what you perceive as "irrational ideas" because of your culture, and hey I understand that.
This scene always gives me the creeps...
CitySkin09 9 months ago
The reason Obama hasn't been assassinated yet is because it seems only presidents who want to change things get killed. JFK wanted to change things and was killed for it. Do you think Obama is smarter than we give him credit for? He's protecting his own ass, not from some lone nut assassin, but from everyone around him and the military industrial process....
essie311 9 months ago
@essie311 Comedian Bill Hicks said it best: On Inauguration day the new president gets taken to a dark, smoky room. Sitting around a table are the wealthiest industrialists in the world staring at him. One of the men says "show him the tape" . The new president then watches the well known assassination footage, but its clearer and from a never before seen angle. The guy at the head of the table stops the tape and says... "any questions?".
hanscombe72 9 months ago 3
Did garrison ever meet Fletcher prouty in real life?
NazcarFanatic24 10 months ago
Fletcher Prouty was Mr X.
jasperlong 10 months ago
LHO acted alone, I truly believe that.
allthewine 11 months ago
donald sutherland acts kevin costner right off the screen..
reefergladness 1 year ago 4
@reefergladness One of the best scene stealing moments in movie history. Sutherland was brilliant.
SuperHero3 11 months ago
it would be crazy if all of this is in the warren commission. which mean we could've had the truth for 20 plus years now.
MrPatron79 1 year ago
Prouty was awarded the Joint Chiefs of Staff Commendation Medal
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cadentavaricegrtrj 1 year ago
quality FAIL
Colt2571 1 year ago
If LBJ was dumped from the ticket by JFK, North Carolina Governor Terry Sanford was the LIKELY choice for VP in 1964.
The FBI were going to whack MLK regardless who was in the Oval Office, it was only a matter of time and plus Dr. King was a marked man from the start.
sboudreaux27 1 year ago
THE MISTER X CHARACTER IS A GENERAN NAMED FLECTHER PROUTY............. RESEARSH HIS NAME,,, HE SAYS THE SAME THINGS IN REAL LIFE........ THATS TOP SECERT ............ FLECTHER PROUTY
TheJFLAMEZ 1 year ago
@TheJFLAMEZ Fletcher Prouty retired a Lieutenant-Colonel.
katey1dog 1 year ago
Best questions you can ask @8:07 why was kennedy killed, Who benefited, who has the power to cover it up. Its like 9/11 Why were the three towers destroyed, who benefitedfrom it, who had the power to cover it up.
Zuel7227 1 year ago
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(CONT'D #3)
(I.e. over a million civilians in Iraq have been slaughtered already likewise to Vietnam and the elite are profiting immensely while the vast majority of Americans suffer injustices such as a mitigated quality of life as a result of this tyranny) as they certainly commenced due to resources available for this elitists while debt is rapidly enhancing and perhaps is already unsustainable. Lastly, absolute power evidently corrupts absolutely.
ChrisC1488 1 year ago
(CONT’D #2) Consequently, the unjust and unnecessary war was absolutely essential for the power elite in order to generate hundreds of billions of dollars in capital (for the select few situated in this strata). Moreover, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are quite similar presently….
ChrisC1488 1 year ago
(CONT'D) Furthermore, JFK's policy of American withdrawal from Vietnam by 1965 upon being re-elected (which was presumably a certain outcome) and implementing a program of "vietnamization" (training and financing the South Vietnamese to carry out their own war) was the reason he met his demise because the elite (bankers, military industrial complex and incredibly powerful companies that wanted to obtain contracts to produce rather remarkably expensive weapons for the war (I.E. helicopters).
ChrisC1488 1 year ago
Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty is the character Mr. X is portraying (certainly with no inaccuracy) and any critical thinkers should certainly purchase his 2 books (1. JFK: The CIA,Vietnam and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy; 2. The Secret Team: The CIA & Its Allies in Control of the United States and the World) in order to decipher how the elite consolidated power (i.e. the David Rockefeller's of the world) and have obviously retained that power since the assassination…
ChrisC1488 1 year ago
You can say what you want about accuracy, but even if you don't believe Oliver Stone, this a great movie with great performances. This is a hell of a lot of dialogue for Donald Sutherland
trulysarcastic 1 year ago
This is all 100% true.Col Fletcher Prouty was Mr X.Check out the HSCA testimony of Col Robert E. Jones.He sent 8-12 plain clothes soldiers to Dealey Plaza on 11-22-63.One of them,James Powell was found inside the TSBD after the shooting.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
I don't care if this movie is 100% accurate or not - I fucking love it.
maulcs 1 year ago
Jfk one of the best movies of all the times great edition and assembly the critiques on a possible conspiracy in the death of jfk cannot cover the perfection of this movie Directed masterfully by oliver stone
TRUEMAN8919 1 year ago
Just follow the money, and you'll find out who killed Kennedy.
Raford146 2 years ago
For cinematic drama, this scene is one of the heaviest ever...even for the sketchy history contained within, it's just a great scene in a great movie.
That crazy Ollie Stone...
Stifsim6 2 years ago
if only lee harvey oswald had not given himself a texas school book suppository that morning none of this tragedy would ever have happened.
assparade001 2 years ago
@assparade001 maybe but also maybe not , maybe somebody else then had shot down JFK in a other place and time.
TitusFlavius79 2 years ago
@assparade001 Bullshit. It is evident for everyone, who'd read the Warren report, that is Oswald was a scapegoat. Stone gets very near to the propable truth here
cxmafia 1 year ago
@assparade001 What video have you just seen??
Augalv 5 months ago
JFK would still be alive if MLK Jr. was Vice President.!
jerseydevilxx 2 years ago
well MLK was not old enought to be the Vice President in 1960. Eligibility: Not be younger than 35 years old. In 1964 MLK was old enought.
TitusFlavius79 2 years ago
@TitusFlavius79 Are you a retard? Being catholic was enough of a hurdle, having a black vp would've given him no shot. I hate stupidity, it's a pet peeve of mine.
kdj997 4 months ago
Respond to this video... You have to be a moron, who likes sticking their foot in their mouth to avoid realizing that the conspiracy is real. First of all, idiots who don't believe, explain why he was receiving $200 a month from the FBI as a potential informant. This supposed loner no body who acted alone? That fact alone blows the lid off the official story. End of discussion, thank you and good day.
kdj997 4 months ago
@jerseydevilxx What the hell are you talking about?
hollywoodhemings 1 year ago
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spookzaka3litz 2 years ago
Might I add that Christian David from France had mentioned that an assasin from the Corsican Mafia, a fellow by the name of Lucien Sarti was contracted for the shooting...FBI placed Sarti in Mexico City on the 21st of November.
rooseguitar64 2 years ago
Strange things indeed . THe DEM. party itself was fragmenting. that Kennedy himself knew the risks involved going down there. The truth in Mr. X's dialouge is the lack of security provided for JFK. JFk barely won the presidency and to let him strut like that in Tex. was insane. JFK was in tex. w/a bullseye on his face. And taking the route they took and that crazy turn? It was like letting serpico go first into that bldg. Not providing adequate sec. for a head of state is a conspiracy.
translationwiz 2 years ago
there was no conspiracy on the death of JFK. alot of people cannot logical agree that a nobody like oswald shot a somebody like JFK, anyway alot of other people like to take the JFK assassnination in one line with alot of other historical events in history and called every of them a conspiracy because not of the reason there cannot accept those historical events as a logical event. those like to use very wired conspiracy theorys to get simply advertence and money.
TitusFlavius79 2 years ago
yes thats right translationwiz, the lack of a good security around JFK was a big mistake. JFK and his predecessor like Eisenhower or specially Truman refuse to have a big group of agents around them for security . there is the key dilemma point of every politican person in the world to be a achievable public person for the people and to have in the same time a good security grouop around.
TitusFlavius79 2 years ago
Sometimes all it takes is for a nobody to shoot a somebody.
Our history is replete with such actions.
Case in point: Lynette Alice "Squeaky" Fromme, John Warnock Hinckley, Jr., Leon Frank Czolgosz just to name only three.
katey1dog 2 years ago
What strange logic you have when even the HSCA which was thoroughly manipulated by the CIA concluded a probable conspiracy in the JFK Assassination.
xxZaharoulaxx 2 years ago
@TitusFlavius79 your wrong kennedy never refused secret service or told them to get off the back of the car, thats all a lie. even if he did why were the windows allowed to be open and overpasses unchecked? why did the 1st say they found a german mauser on the 6th floor? how did ruby get into the police station? how does 1 bullet make 7 wounds and end up on the wrong stretcher in parkland hospital basically undamaged? why was the motorcade route &arrangement changed last minute? all coincidence
pat442389 1 year ago
More: A week before it was published Ruby in his Carousel Club showed Madeleine Brown a copy of the motorcade route; LBJ's SS team made the 90 degree turn @ Elm St. The SS destroyed their detail report re: security standdown. Kennedy fired Gen. Cabel who was Dallas Mayor's brother. Police Chief Curry covered-up & denied Ruby's long-time association as Mob/Police gopher. FBI & Dallas Police intimidated & even threatened witnesses to Grassy Knoll gunfire ... And on and on, overwhelming evidence.
starmanskye 2 years ago
oh well again a inside job guy. listen the 9/11 truth movement is based on lies and disinfos like this alex jones guy. there are want only make money with all her lies like 9/11 was a inside job.
TitusFlavius79 2 years ago
Real controlled demolitions
Controlled demolitions are carried out with explosives. These make a noise.
No skyscraper the size of WTC7 has ever been imploded. The nearest we can get are the implosions of the Hudson's Department Store (the tallest building ever imploded, at 33 stories and 134 meters at its highest point) and the Landmark Tower, Fort Worth (the second tallest building ever imploded, at 30 stories and 116 meters).
TitusFlavius79 2 years ago
As we have seen above, firefighters expected the collapse of the building, on account of the structural damage, the extent of the fire, the sagging and bulging of the building, and the creaking noises it was making. Moreover, as we have seen above, the building started to collapse eight seconds before the initiation of global collapse. There is, then, no mystery to be explained as to why WTC7 came down: it fell down because it was falling down for the reasons that it was expected to fall down.
TitusFlavius79 2 years ago
But explosions were heard. In fact, the explosions were heard on video.
No skyscraper the size of WTC7 has ever been imploded.
Yes, it was imploded. Granted, there has never been a building that large to be professionally demolished, but it isn't impossible.
Afterall, It does fit with a standard act of implosion. Orderly, top-to-bottom, internal structural collapse and it's acceleration downward at freefall speed into its own footprint. Classic implosion.
katey1dog 2 years ago
I think that this is the best, most compelling scene in the film.
denniskussinich08 2 years ago 13
Donald Sutherland is masterful in this scene. Awesome
empathy97 2 years ago 3
Most of the CIA leadership around the invasion of Cuba seems to have been people from Texas. A whole Texan branch of the CIA is based in the oil business. If we trace Bush's background in the Texas oil business we discover his two partners in the oil-barge leasing business: Texan Robert Mosbacher and Texan James Baker. Mosbacher was Secretary of Commerce and Baker was Secretary of State, the same job Dulles held when JFK was killed.
SV2609 2 years ago
what is your position on the JFK assassination and the MR.X stuff ?
TitusFlavius79 2 years ago
The CIA put Texas millionaire and CIA agent George Bush in charge of recruiting Cuban exiles into the CIA's invasion army. Bush was working with another Texas oilman, Jack Crichton, to help him with the invasion. A fellow Texan, Air Force General Charles Cabel, was asked to coordinate the air cover for the invasion.
SV2609 2 years ago
Nixon told Pepsi, Standard Oil and other corporations who lost property given back to the farmers of Cuba, that if they would help him win, he would authorize an invasion to remove Castro. To further impress contributors to his campaign, then Vice-President Nixon asked the CIA to create Operation 40, a secret plan to invade Cuba, just as soon as he won.
SV2609 2 years ago
If the time according to Mr.X in Dallas is 7.00 PM than it must be 12 noon in New Zealand next day.
SV2609 2 years ago
Here's a fun fact.A good friend of J Edgar Hoover & LBJ was David H Bryd who owned a building in Dallas called the TSBD.Byrd was also part owner of an aerospace company that was awarded huge military contracts after LBJ became President.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
He was also a good friend and business partner of Clint Murcheson, who employed a fellow by the name of Mac Wallace...Incidentally..wallace's latent fingerprint wasa found on one of the boxes in the room where Oswald supposedly shot Kennedy
rooseguitar64 2 years ago 2
Yep Wallace was LBJ's hitman.I saw an interview with LBJ's mistress Madelyn Brown and she mentioned that Wallace was an expert marksman also.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
General Charles Cabel was Deputy Director of the CIA for 9 years until being fired by JFK for the bay of pigs.His brother Earl Cabel just happened to be Mayor of Dallas on 11-22-63 & had total control of the Dallas PD.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago
Given that the Dallas PD had nothing to do with Kennedy being assassinated, I fail to see the connection here. Are you suggesting that a different mayor would have prevented it?
shutterbun 2 years ago
The Dallas PD were tight with Jack Ruby.
The cops hung out in his strip club, free.
The mafia knew Ruby had connections with the Dallas PD, thats why they made Ruby silence the Patsy!
LadyMcHOLDEM 2 years ago
Imagine how much money Bell Helicopter made during the Vietnam war.Micheal Paine and his wife helped plant Oswald in the TSBD building.Its interesting that Mr Paine happened to be an engineer for Bell Helicopter with security clearance.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago
youtube keeps banning these videos for no reason
chillenscratch 3 years ago
Southerland IS playing Col. L Fletcher Prouty. Check wiki, imdb.
Prouty wrote several books (he spoke w/garrison before the trail a few times according to his book) stating that it was a military coup. This man was a full Col. in the army and head of sp ops at the time of the murder. He's no flake.
norcalmikey99 3 years ago 3
the CIA tried to discredit him for speaking out.If there is nothing to hide then why would they attack him?The CIA tried to buy every copy of his book "The Secret Team" I believe it was,but they printed more.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago
If it is not a conspiracy then why all the covered up things? Im not saying Oswald wasnt shooting but he had help. Why not take the easy shot? Why wait till the car turns down to the grassy knoll? Anyone can see that something wasnt suppose to be known. Look up Ferrie in Wilklipedia and youll see him and Oswald were friends when Oswald was as young as fifteen. Funny huh?
jezuz32 3 years ago
One of best movie scenes ever.
mattc941 3 years ago 14
Agreed.
grumpytosnowwhite 2 years ago
The magic bullet theory is such an insult to peoples intelligences. A bullet like that is impossible, therefore there was more than one shooter. A lady said that she saw smoke by the picket fence. Its been a while since i seen this movie but thats what i remember.
TemplarReturns 3 years ago 4
picket fence as in grassy noals?
darcyknox 3 years ago
and where is the proof that this mr "X" guy is Col. L. Fletcher Prouty?
call me silly but the magic bullet "theory" is enough for me to be skeptic that 1 man could have fired so many shots in those seconds.
lupillo2 3 years ago
And you think that a bullet can stand still in mid-air for 1.6 seconds? I was in the Army I never heard anything that stupid in my life. JFK's murder was a conspiracy from the start and nothing's going to change my mind about it.
violator79 3 years ago
This is one of my favourite film scenes of all time :)
ghostwritten87 3 years ago 4
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BEST scene in the movie.
KiNPiN1835 3 years ago 3
my favorite scene!!
pamelitasun18 3 years ago
Undoubtedly there was a conspiracy because of the constant flow of disinformation surrounding the whole thing, such as Prouty's rants. While Prouty was most likely correct to a large degree, like most good disinformation guys, they spew 90% truth and then mix in 10% of downright bullshit. By the way, LBJ was no right winger. He was a big government prick like Bush. Partisanship is for sheep. As Prouty said, "Part of the scenerey, right?"
petsounds75 3 years ago
fuck cia and lbj, fucking right-wing murderers, they killed jfk and world peace. love this part of the movie
petitprince1 3 years ago 3
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LBJ was a right-winger? The truth is conspriracy theorist are mostly nutballs that know nothing about history. For one thing, JFK had no intention of withdrawing troops from Vietnam. He is quoted on the eve of his death as saying if we withdrew troops from Vietnam it would fall the next day. That is a fact, look it up. Kennedy was a rapid anti-communist...no evidence of his intention of withdrawing troops has been discovered. Sorry, there was no government conspiracy.
redmrlove13 3 years ago
"Kennedy was a rapid anti-communist..."
Now look who is talking s***.
plausibledenial 3 years ago
Cord Meyer did it, for the CIA. E. Howard Hunt gave him up on his deathbed.
BlackProteus 3 years ago 2
great scene!!! check Mister X's book it goes into much more detail on covert operations and government spending.
cj251b 3 years ago 3
see 9/11 coic-e-dinks u will puke
chipcount989 3 years ago
General Cabel was fired by JFK and was also the brother of the Mayor of Dallas
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago 4
"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. -J Edgar Hoover "
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago
reminds me of julius ceasar all of a sudden
gamehng007 3 years ago
Type in "Mr. X (JFK Alternate Ending Clip)" too see more of X in the deleted scene.
AntonBatey 3 years ago
Wow...you people are so paranoid! Since when does Hollywood ever do anything with total accuracy, it is entertainment! Just because Oliver Stone says it's true that does not make it so.
kb3269 3 years ago
all true. beware the CIA propaganda agents who post on youtube.They are still working very hard to enforce the official lie on the public.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago 3
1)JFK had no mention of what Garrison based his case on : Perry Russo .
2)Clinical Psycho? Garrison was relieved of duty in the Nat. Guard. Drs @ the Brooke Army Hosp. in Tx diagnosed "severe & disabling psychoneurosis".."interfered w/his social & prof. adjustment to a marked degree." Garrison "is considered totally incapacitated from the standpoint of military duty & moderately incapacitated in civilian adaptability," recommended long-term psychotherapy. See Case Closed, p. 423.
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
pull your head out off you arse blowhard
chipcount989 3 years ago
Goofle Dave Reitzes site and you will find 100 provable lies to the fabricated and monsterous canopys of Oliver Stones epic historical floperrroo 'JFK' . It's well known that his embarraddment afterwards sent him into a drunken stupor so badly that during his 'Victory Cruise' aboard the Liner SS Prickly Heat he was nearly washed overboard and was only saved by the ships 'Kitchen Unit' who found him entangled on a ships side railing ranting about "This is a Con-Spiracy" ......
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
Keyword JFK security call off
Twinhit 3 years ago
the content of this scene was taken directly from correspondence between Fletcher Priuty anfd Jim Garrison... so there ! lol
florchpod 4 years ago
politics is power, nothing more!
retrofuturex 4 years ago 3
I have been looking for this,thanx for posting.:)
branmakmorn 4 years ago
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Fiction CAN be fun!
Broadwaymungo 4 years ago
so can delusion apparently
filthymcnasty08 4 years ago 3
Broadwaymungo, I'd recommend reading non- U.S. authors. Eduardo Galeano from Uruguay's S.A. trilogy, especially 'Century of Fire', which is an 'easy' read- beautiful prose/poetry;
educational and enlightening. Pablo Neruda,
writing about Allende's Chile, 'Fire From the Mountain' by Cabezas...the list is very long, and I can recommend more if you llke.
pekoe67 3 years ago
My favorite 15 minutes of this film. Even if everything X says is almost all factually incorrect, it's a cinematic triumph.
retrofuturex 4 years ago 2
It's true. The real film. A big Donald suterland
mimishore 4 years ago 2
You gotta give props to Kiefer's dad =]
retrofuturex 4 years ago 2
much of what he says about CIA involvement in Latin America is true. read Bill Blum's book on US interventions since WWII, and get all the dirty details.
historywillabsolve 4 years ago
Definitely. The US has been exploiting the people and land of South America for centuries. Research United Fruit Company for just one example of this tyranny.
Now it's the Middle East for its abundance of oil. If pigeon fat contained petroleum you bet they'd face extinction!
retrofuturex 4 years ago
Why? JFK in WWII worked 5.6 miles from Barbara Pierce who would suddenly become Mrs. G.H.W. Bush in January 1945. Barb quit Smith College in Massachusetts close to Kennedy again suddenly and with good grades. Pregnant students were not allowed at Smith. That was the real motive for JFK's killing. The baby? That's W. Looks like J.P. Kennedy, doesn't he?
TogetherinParis 4 years ago
you're closer then you think crunkchipmunk
mrtony80 4 years ago
The government killed JFK and orchestrated 911. No one is fooled anymore.
CrunkChipmunk 4 years ago 4
Thought you Euros good grasp / see larger issues? You just don't think yeah thats right you don't.
In relation to you saying "that this isn't the right venue to discuss these things," I remind you of what is discussed in this scene from JFK.
Hello its all Politics and American Foreign policy.
And the only person that I see here engaging in "off topic rants," well ... is you.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
So you know for a fact that UFOs are not real? How do you know this prove it top me.
It is possible that Di was murdered, why not, why could she have not been assassinated. Again what proof do you have that she wasn't?
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
The UFO Di JFK conspiracy comments was to prove a point.
I cant prove to you that there was a conspiracy in these 3 instances but again you cant prove to me that there wasn't one.
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cstappert 4 years ago
The Vietnam War was the result of "good old fashioned decision making at government level." I would say it was more then that every politician has an agenda.
Every country's foreign policy is activated and engaged in to further its commercial and national interest. Don't tell me you think Vietnam was just about stopping communism?
And what would you say this war in Iraq is about? Which company is now making trillions from this war? Halliburton and Brown Kellogg Root.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
What you meant to have said was that my point was moot, not trivial.
Politicians are quite aware of the assumptions they make for them they are not wrong.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
Mr Greenspan ex federal reserve chairman has just said publicly that the Iraq war was and is being waged for Oil.
If Oil isn't all about economics well?
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
There are Historians who have a economist bent Geoffrey Blainey for one.
Well actually re: Who controls the Oil controls the economy has worked." Look into who controls the Oil in Iraq now.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
Firstly we have not spammed anything when the Founders of YouTube originally started this website they set these very comment section boxes up to make comments.
Secondly I hope I have given you some interesting points to think about also.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
A message to all Americans tell you Federal Government to stay out of the worlds affairs, stop deposing legally elected governments and for the sake of world peace STOP invading countries.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
For all Imperialist Capitalist Americans, stop telling us The Rest of the World where we can and cannot post.
Newsflash America YOU DON'T OWN the Internet.
And like the US of A the Internet is still a DEMOCRACY. (Not your idea of an Democracy, by the way.)
America is hardly an appropriate place...period.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
Off topic rants wake up, the whole scenes about US Foreign Policy.
"Greece Romania Yugoslavia Italy Stole Elections the Philippines Vietnam 54 Got the Dali Lama out Cuba."
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
You see theres Old Europe / Merkel's Germany which is an US ally, and then theres the Rest of the World, the World NOT aligned with the US of A.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
But your government under Merkel does support the War on Terror, how many troops do you have in Afghanistan again? And are they not under the command of NATO?
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
first and foremost I am not a conspiracy theorist. I don't believe in labels.
As an Australian I am open to things that I have no absolute proof for. Say the wind for example you feel it see its effects but you cannot actually see it. But its real.
I know that you as an German the home of Hegel and all those other existentialist philosphers would require proof.
So maybe your not open to what you perceive as "irrational ideas" because of your culture, and hey I understand that.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
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cstappert 4 years ago
It wasn't a bad example, it was a point to be taken on an esoteric / spiritual level, not on an meteorological level.
It was about the unseen in that just because you don't have any empirical evidence for something it doesn't mean its not there.
Its about faith, in that maybe just maybe there was an conspiracy behind the murder of jfk. Even though no concrete proof is yet to be presented.
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cstappert 4 years ago
my favorite part of the movie
joec470 4 years ago
but a men open an umbrella in the rout, the army dosent make something
an russian comunist can hide a rifle there
aztec711 4 years ago