tribal fusion faire 2009

[kungfubellydancer]

I'm sorry to say but that was most tasteless, boring, uncreative, un-empowering of any excuse for belly dance I've seen.

[BadlyBentPub]

Belly Dance? More like BARELY dance. Take a lesson, try to actually CREATE art instead of hiding behind 'artistic expression' to justify a half-assed attempt at something. Art is created through hard work....your 'dancing' looks like it was created through tequila shooters, and you demean real artists who practice and work hard at their craft.

[dancebreathedance]

This woman has serious mental health issues, and is a known trouble maker in the bellydance wold and over on Tribe.net. She has been harassing a whole bunch of dancer who have have given her less than favorable feedback about her "bellydancing". And in my opinion, I can see why she gets so much negative attention. Look at her! Look at what she does! What the hell is going on here? This isn't bellydancing, it's some of poorly thought out performance art. It's a joke that needs to die, now.

[skepticlove]

FUNNIEST. "DANCE." EVER!!!!

[Marhaba1973]

I never knew anything so vulgar could also be so boring.

[empressofmisrule]

The Reverend Mother would NOT approve of this...

[Anatolia2]

Oh Honey, What are you doing to the veil? 5:23

[mokonekochans]

...Uhm... I really have no other words for this than "WTF IS THIS SHIT"

Seriously. Take a class, stop inventing things, and for gods sake stop insulting Dune AND belly dance.

[EtherealTribal]

also why are they milling around ONSTAGE before the performance, why is the animator talking INTO the mic when she can`t find the papers? It looks like the whole show was kind of poorly put together. The artist should not be onstage talking to people behind stage before her performance, if there is no back stage and you have to stand onstage while you wait, STAY IN CHARACTER!

[feeny42]

So I have about no experience with belly dancing and even I can tell how terrible this is

[AvalonFae]

With taking into consideration some of the actual constructive critisism being put out here towards your technique, I also believe you deserve a possitive comment too. It takes great courage to be different and express yourself in front of the entire world, it is your right. Your courage inspires my dancing. Your love for dance shines through your expressions, and I believe that your technique will eventualy catch up with your heart as well. Even then, as dancers we never stop learning :-)

[SerpentGoddess]

"Bodygami" lol is that supposed to be a joke?? There is NO SUCH "art" in the Sisterhood...enough with your lies. You are nowhere interesting or talented enough to ever have the right to cal yourself "Bene Gesserit", you cheap impostor. You should be banned from performing publicly for even suggesting such a pathetic joke to the world.

[SerpentGoddess]

I have to agree with BluePuppy...it's,,,well...inte­resting. But I do not see how this has anything to do with either the Bee Gesserit or any form of Belly Dance. To be quite honest, the dancer looked confused, tired and still...I have NO CLUE what this has to do with either subject and needs to be categorized in....something else. It really just looked like an overweight Dune fan that made a very bad decision and twirled a sheet around her while she walked around and twirled aimlessly

[ravenselene]

Just a thought, doing backbends from the side are more impressive than crotch or boob shot.

[TwinN666]

I get it now!! Heimlich!!!

[sewlove33]

Your performance was very bad. Just do not expect to receive any sort of respect from the dance community as long as you keep doing what you want to do without any regard to what others say.

[zosogoso]

On April 17'th at LA Raqs I will be doing Bodygami, the Bene Gesserit belly dance art of folding and unfolding the body.

[MeredithSerena]

Please take more belly dance classes before doing any more belly dance solos. Also, It is not very tasteful to show your crotch to the audience like that.

[ElegantMiyavizm]

...wow

[zosogoso]

Oh the thread in the second tribe on Tribe net that I mentioned is called The Drama Llama has landed

[zosogoso]

The two threads that you should look at on Tribe net are Armoire Awards- I don't get it and The Foul, Drunk, and Hostile Belly Dancer. In a side note Roxanne Goon is a BDSS intern.

[catslr7]

It is amazing bad form to use real names in Comments section on youtube

[Valizan]

@zosogoso So if she's a BDSS intern, she's very likely a better dancer than you are.

What is your point?

And anyone is welcome to come look at the Armoire Awards. Come see how Ms. Zoso refuses to behave like a actual artist and take constructive (well...except for me...) criticism.

[bellydancingbrat]

I am the young lady of whom Zosogoso wrote earlier, and the reason she dropped my name is because she is upset with a comment that I made on Tribe a while ago. Rachel, I am sorry that it angered you, but you have the right to know that your behavior has upset ME as well. We need to let the silly dance feuds back home dissipate, and quit making things worse. Please open yourself to constructive criticism, ignore the more rude things, and build yourself into a better woman and dancer.

Peace,

R.G.

[ardentluma]

@zosogoso I agree everyone! Go look at those tribes! They are AWESOME!

[Lehmann108]

Outstanding in her own field! Yikes!

[zosogoso]

Laidies and Gentelmen, in the comming weeks in the video respons section of this channel a group of indaviduals from the Amoire Awards sight on Tribe net will be posting. To find out who they are look up the the thread I don't get it... and you will be able to read not only their comments, but also get a preview of the steller tallent that will be put before you.

[Valizan]

@zosogoso Actually, folks, I would not count on the people from the Armoire Awards posting anything here. Most of them don't want to be associated with this performer.

And most of their comments mirror what has already been said here: This "performance" is hard to watch because it is so bad, and it is NOT bellydance.

[jasper3542]

I know it's easy for criticism to come off as harsh or cruel in a public forum like YouTube, so please know I'm not being snotty when I say this:

If you continue to present bellydance in this manner, you will hurt the artform. If you want to create a new branch of bellydance, that's wonderful. Many have done so. But you need to understand core bellydance vocabulary first, and very little of this is bellydance. The part that is bellydance is not good technique. Please, seek more training.

[jasper3542]

And because YouTube limits the # of characters I can put in one comment, let me add to the above that you need to put a lot more thought into your costuming as well. You showed the audience a lot of cleavage on more than one area of your body that no one wants to see during a performance. There are other "endowed" dancers out there who costume themselves more appropriately. Learn from those women. Either that, or choreograph yourself so as not to display these parts quite so directly.

[loaferpatent101]

apparently you do care about what others think as there was absolutely no-one who could possibly give you a positive response to this. we couldn't even call this 'performance art'. Not by a long shot. If you can't take critisism, don't post this kind of ***stuff***

[MrsCaptJack]

Well, at about 3:00 mins in, you do smack your face in the floor, you lose your balance right after that and this is nine minutes of my life that I knew were going to be wasted. I've seen you at other events and you NEED SOME LESSONS! Please, for the love of all things belly dance, hell, for the love of all things DANCE, take some LESSONS!!! You have good core strength, build on that with some real lessons. Maud Dib will thank you.

[zosogoso]

Congress shall make no law respecting an estbalishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise therof;or abridging the freedom of speech,or of the press,or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Long live the freedom to exprees one's self

[MrsCaptJack]

Long live the freedom to learn to spell.

[zosogoso]

do onto others as you have them do on to you.

[ardentluma]

@zosogoso

By this do you mean that I should dress up in ill fitting costuming and show my camel-toed crotch to an audience made up of my dance peers? Or ungracefully perform yoga poses that cause me to smack my face in to the floor? How about allowing my breasts to just vulgarly flop around?

I commend what strength you do have and encourage you to continue to build on it. As for this being belly dance, all I see is boobs and awkward movements. Take more lessons. Learn stage etiquette.

[MrsCaptJack]

If I danced like this, I'd want my friends to take me quietly aside and tell me what to do to improve. Here's another tip: just because you HAVE a ten minute slot doesn't mean you have ten minutes of good material. Your audience is talking the entire performance and people are leaving. That should be a sign that you're not holding their interest.

[NeferKaKarnak]

Like others, I fail to see how this is tribal fusion belly dance. For the most part, it looked like unusual yoga with some spins flinging around a veil. Dancers need to know how to execute moves; showing the audience one's crotch is a no-no! Belly dancers also need proper fitting costumes because they're trying to combat negative stereotypes.

It's fun to experiment, but not all of these experiments should be in public. Perhaps the dancer could start taking lessons with a helpful teacher.

[Valizan]

Hm. I'd be interested to hear what a Yoga Guru would think about this.

Ma'am digging your heels in is bad for you as an artist.

These people are, frankly, being very kind with you in their comments after watching this for 9 minutes they are not going to get back. Blue Puppy was pretty specific in things you could easily fix.

If you intend to continue as an artist, you should learn to take some critique. And yes, it is hard, but it is the road to growth as an artist. Good Luck!

[ShadosDreams]

I know you say, who cares about what you think, BUT to label something as Tribal Fusion when it has nothing to do with Tribal belly dance, really isn't the cool thing to do... Tribal fusion belly dance isn't the blanket term for everything else that doesn't fit in the belly dance world. Rolling round on the ground going through yoga poses is not Tribal Fusion, it is yoga! And please remember that a costume malfunction is not what we are going for...

[BluePuppy]

crotch to audience = no

ill-fitting/nearly "malfunctioning" top = no

bad technique = no

it's good to be creative, but i don't see how this is bellydance, tribal or otherwise.

i'd agree, call it "experimental dance"

[catwomyn]

I'd call this yoga / experimental dance rather than bellydance.

[peachfluwr]

i think I agree.. I know its yoga stuff, but your chest falling out of your top was highly distracting in a somewhat vulgar way..

[Sandw1chBoy]

I fail to see what this has to do with tribal bellydance in any form, fusion or otherwise.

[zosogoso]

Who cares about what you think. I will keep doing what I want to do.