GLOBAL WARNING - Are We Facing Mass Extinction?

[BudCharles999]

Just remember climate change is responsible for the Permian Extinction (Biggest extinction of ALL TIME)

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 As is most extinctions.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum Yes, but the Permian was the Earth warming, most others were Earth cooling.

[BudCharles999]

But they are more common now than they have been for over 100000 years. And this is not part of a natural process, Earth's climate should be stable and on its way to cooling.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 Your going to get periods where these things are going to happen more often. And I'm afraid it is part of the natural process. Increased temperatures will increase these disasters. But the Earth has experienced much higher temperatures and therefore much higher frequencies of natural disasters.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum No NOT natural!! We should be in a stable climate eventually leading into an ice age. It would have been natural 60000000 years ago.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 XD, There are much more factors than you think. I'm assuming your getting this information based on Earth results. In fact this increase in temperature is most likely caused by an increase in solar activity.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum Possibly, but it's interesting that it happened at the time of the industrial revolution. Even so, by pumping oxygen into the atmosphere and taking CO2 out, we can still help.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 Why? That would be a complete waste of time and money. It's no threat at all.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum I have explained why climate change is a threat. It's worth putting money forward to save the entire economy.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 It's not a threat at all. Are you even reading my points. Give me your reasons why it's a threat?

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum It is causing disasters, it is destroying farmland through cyclones, droughts, floods and heat waves, it will flood many populated areas including pacific islands... to name a few reasons.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 Bloody hell you are clueless. I'm done wasting my time. Re read what i have just said and try and knock some sense and reason into your brain.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum You've not said anything about how the disasters WILL NOT HAPPEN

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum But CO2 warms the planet, making deserts larger and killing plants.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 Haha, You Global Warmest people are so misleading. You create un-nessesary fear and panic and quite frankly its abit annoying seeing people rant about how Humans are causing "Global Warming" and how if we don't blah blah blah blah were all going to die. No, sorry. Global Warming is completely natural. There is nothing Humans can do about it nor do we have to do anything about it.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum Earth's climate has been completely stable for 8000 years, now it is sparking up and it has been doing that since the industrial revolution. Now, it was predicted that it should remain stable for 5000 to 30000 more years and then fall into an ice age!! Explain...

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 Ha, Sorry but the Earth has been much warmer than it has been today. First of all, The CO2 emitted is mostly coming from oceanic organism creatures which multiply due to increased temperature. The so called famous graph that shows the link between temperature and CO2, Well if you look at it much closer, you will see that it's as the temperature increases, the amount of CO2 increases, not the other way round.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum Ah, yes but we successfully predicted that those times would happen. This warming is completely unseen and is not part of any established climate cycle.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 In hindsight, We are still recovering from the "mini ice age" that was dominate for around 300 years. We are most likely going to experience an increase in temperature. This change in climate has been linked most likely with increased solar activity. Anyway the point is their is nothing to fear and their is certainly nothing we can do about it. 

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum The mini ice age is nothing compared to what we're going through right now. And we COULD turn the climate around if people stop sucking their thumbs and clinging on to the old economy.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 For gods sake we are still recovering from the mini ice age. The mini ice age was a time when the earth was much colder. It also happens to be the time when the modern civilization sprung up. As the Earth's temperature increases, Humans adapt to the new climate and build certain parts of their cities in other places. That's really all. Their is absolutely nothing wrong with the climate. This isn't like The day after tommorow. Humans have lived in far higher climates.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum We're on our way to a GREENHOUSE period. An INTERGLACIAL period is what we're currently in. A GLACIAL is an ice age. The mini ice age does not qualify. Naturally we should be in an INTERGLACIAL headed for a GLACIAL. Yet, we are heading for a GREENHOUSE. Already, disasters like Hurricane Katrina, Cyclone Monica, the Australian droughts and floods, even bigger than normal, and the Pakistan floods have dramatically damaged the economy.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 These disasters have been going around the Earth for billions of years. The fact is our civilization is built around the Mini ice age when temperatures were cooler. These problems are not critical. We can easily adapt to them.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum Also, climate change is destroying crops. To support the future population, we have to produce 90 times more crops, climate change sure won't help. Look at the price of bananas, it's GONE BANANAS!!

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 XD, Ok you really do not know what your talking about. The Main reason the prices of food have gone up is because of Civil Wars, Not climate change. Where the fuck did you get that conclusion? Fact is the Earth can produce plenty of food and it will continue to do so for many many years to come.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum Cyclone Monica ring a bell? Anyway, with the population explosion, there will be a food crisis even WITHOUT climate change.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 Again, bullshit. Africa has the potential to feed the entire world if it uses up to date farming methods. If you take every human in the world and give each of them a house and garage next to each other like a neighbourhood, you'd get the size of Texas.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum But it (Africa) won't because of finance and climate change. The climate change will create massive desertification which will remove most suitable farming land.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 Yes, Finance. Africa is politically unstable and as a result a lot of crops are either destroyed due to civil war are simply arn't grown because the inhabitance have either done of to war or have been killed. Climate change is something Africa can overcome. It's been hotter before.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum But ironically, farming is turning areas to desert and climate change will make it worse.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 Hence why i used the term "Modern Farming techniques" This is all about political and economics. Climate change is not big threat.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum But it is a threat and it's rapidly getting bigger. What a century ago was 150 years' worth of warming is now what will happen in a decade.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 So...It's not a threat.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum It is a threat and it's becoming a bigger threat.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 Yeah, I has hoping for something abit more detailed

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum Disprove what I said. anyway disasters include floods, cyclones, fires and plagues.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum Remember too the population is GROWING really fast.

(Sorry I have to use capitals there are no italics)

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 Aye, but it's going to slow down. Right now the LEDC's of the world are around a stage 3. Once they reach a stage 4. Your going to see the population stabilise.

[BudCharles999]

@Malusregnum By that time we'll be in a full-on disaster. The entire world will be in poverty. who knows, maybe the survivors can pull through. But we need a new economic model.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 Not really, China and India are already nearly at a stage 4. In the next 10-15 years they would have reached it. It won't be long before the other MEDC's follow.

[Malusregnum]

@BudCharles999 brb