That one would too. Before the video, I loaded the full 5 rounder w/3" mag in the weapon and I wanted to see how the action felt, and what, if anything, would happen to the base on the top shell when the carrier moved rearward. Forgot to put it back in the mag for the video. I was excited, lol!
I did mine when this stuff was "hush hush". I had to figure it out on my own with a micrometer and a straight edge. I was about to post how I did it with exact specs. When a few business members found out.... bamm, here comes the guide. That guide is a good source for people that are new to working on firearms, but is not fool proof.
@evlblkwpnz I am not brave enough. I definitely see the value, but I can't risk ruining my gun. I think Pauly does a great job, but with my the JT magwell on my main S12 it is hard to justify. You have to be the perfect beta tester for the drum-friendly magwell he is plugging.
I have 13 drums and just bought 2 more S12s. I won a TAC47 M.A.G.12 magwell and I will install it on one of the new S12s. I'll see if I can get a look at that JT magwell. Might go well on the other new S12. Drum compatible magwell would be awesome for the open matches near me. The regulars all have 870s and Benellis, lol!
@evlblkwpnz yeah you beat me (gunfun) out.I am envious of the competitions. You will need another dedicated S12 for the drum well.I think it must require a relief cut in the receiver where the front lug would engage. Then to revert you would need a screw on plate over the notch. I know you like to do those super mag dumps. Imagine how fast you could go through all those drums with a magwell and LRBHO. You really need something to shoot at to give people a visual of how much firepower you have.
One just S12 arrived at my dealer today and another should be there in a few days. One has a rail and one doesn't. I may sell the one with the rail and grab another non-rail. I'm dying to get my evl hands on Gunfxr's LRBHO, but he is pretty busy, so I may not be able to get one for a while.
My wife may be getting me a GoPro HD Hero 2 and a friend has access to a safe area for us to set up anything we want, so I will be shooting some new videos soon.
I reprofiled the bottom of the bolt and polished it with 400 grit sandpaper (agressive removal of material on the underside of the bolt ). Cobra's Custom and Pauly's Steelin' can do this mod for you for less than $100. There is really no guide for how to do this. If you ruin the bolt, spares are nearly impossible to find. If you can pull it off, the mod is worth the effort. Best of luck to you.
If you keep a loaded..... mag in it for an extended period of time, it will certainly deform the top round, at least, depending on what the ammo is and how thin or soft the hulls are. Winchester Universal has thin hulls and deforms easily. If you are storing the loaded weapon, say.... by the bed at night for HD, you should lock the bolt back to avoid deforming that first round. \
Be sure that whoever does this mod for you has some skills. There is no second chance without welding.
If you use 2 3/4" shells, you can get it to load on a closed bolt, but it is very difficult and takes longer than using the BHO. Cobra at saiga12.com does the mod that I did to mine for about $75 or $85. You just ship him the bolt, carrier, and a USPS MO and he handles it.
Also, I can load 3" on a closed bolt with a full magazine. It is a nuisance to get the technique, but it is learnable and repeatable.
armaggedonite 3 months ago
@armaggedonite
That one would too. Before the video, I loaded the full 5 rounder w/3" mag in the weapon and I wanted to see how the action felt, and what, if anything, would happen to the base on the top shell when the carrier moved rearward. Forgot to put it back in the mag for the video. I was excited, lol!
evlblkwpnz 3 months ago
There is no guide other than this and the others like it forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/50571-how-do-i-polish-the-bolt/
armaggedonite 3 months ago
@armaggedonite
I did mine when this stuff was "hush hush". I had to figure it out on my own with a micrometer and a straight edge. I was about to post how I did it with exact specs. When a few business members found out.... bamm, here comes the guide. That guide is a good source for people that are new to working on firearms, but is not fool proof.
evlblkwpnz 3 months ago
@evlblkwpnz I am not brave enough. I definitely see the value, but I can't risk ruining my gun. I think Pauly does a great job, but with my the JT magwell on my main S12 it is hard to justify. You have to be the perfect beta tester for the drum-friendly magwell he is plugging.
armaggedonite 3 months ago
@armaggedonite
I have 13 drums and just bought 2 more S12s. I won a TAC47 M.A.G.12 magwell and I will install it on one of the new S12s. I'll see if I can get a look at that JT magwell. Might go well on the other new S12. Drum compatible magwell would be awesome for the open matches near me. The regulars all have 870s and Benellis, lol!
evlblkwpnz 3 months ago
@evlblkwpnz yeah you beat me (gunfun) out.I am envious of the competitions. You will need another dedicated S12 for the drum well.I think it must require a relief cut in the receiver where the front lug would engage. Then to revert you would need a screw on plate over the notch. I know you like to do those super mag dumps. Imagine how fast you could go through all those drums with a magwell and LRBHO. You really need something to shoot at to give people a visual of how much firepower you have.
armaggedonite 3 months ago
@armaggedonite
One just S12 arrived at my dealer today and another should be there in a few days. One has a rail and one doesn't. I may sell the one with the rail and grab another non-rail. I'm dying to get my evl hands on Gunfxr's LRBHO, but he is pretty busy, so I may not be able to get one for a while.
My wife may be getting me a GoPro HD Hero 2 and a friend has access to a safe area for us to set up anything we want, so I will be shooting some new videos soon.
evlblkwpnz 3 months ago
Before the mod, I could do it with stick mags, but fully loaded drum mags were impossible to lopad in mine on a closed bolt.
These are my favotire weapons, bar none. Just something about blasting 12 ga at a rapid pace.
evlblkwpnz 8 months ago
I reprofiled the bottom of the bolt and polished it with 400 grit sandpaper (agressive removal of material on the underside of the bolt ). Cobra's Custom and Pauly's Steelin' can do this mod for you for less than $100. There is really no guide for how to do this. If you ruin the bolt, spares are nearly impossible to find. If you can pull it off, the mod is worth the effort. Best of luck to you.
evlblkwpnz 11 months ago
Exactly what mod did you do/have done? You didn't really say in the vid or description.
IzzyShooter 11 months ago
If you keep a loaded..... mag in it for an extended period of time, it will certainly deform the top round, at least, depending on what the ammo is and how thin or soft the hulls are. Winchester Universal has thin hulls and deforms easily. If you are storing the loaded weapon, say.... by the bed at night for HD, you should lock the bolt back to avoid deforming that first round. \
Be sure that whoever does this mod for you has some skills. There is no second chance without welding.
evlblkwpnz 1 year ago
does keeping the loaded clip in it deform the top round at all?
My brother knows people that can probably do that for me. thank you for the info man.
thorspinky 1 year ago
just got a Saiga12 today and had no idea that it had to load with the bolt open.....not to crazy about that.
thorspinky 1 year ago
@thorspinky
If you use 2 3/4" shells, you can get it to load on a closed bolt, but it is very difficult and takes longer than using the BHO. Cobra at saiga12.com does the mod that I did to mine for about $75 or $85. You just ship him the bolt, carrier, and a USPS MO and he handles it.
evlblkwpnz 1 year ago
Which bolt mod did you do? Got a link?
asmodeus20 1 year ago