@democast Put it this way... If crticism of supremacist, racist Zionism means hatred of Judaism - therefore to criticise Nazism is hatred of Christianity...
@killerskiss09 No, put it THIS way- you dislike Jews and try to rationalize it as anti-Zionism. BTW, Zionism is merely Jewish self-determination in their ancestral homeland. Which you unwittingly justify through reinforcing your anti-Jewish bigotry. Q.E.D.
@democast First off... Hitchens himself was anti-zionist. Second, if I hated Jews I wouldn't have to rationalize it, I would just hate them. "Zionism is merely Jewish self-determination..." What about white self-determination? If one is legitimate so is the other. Would you agree with the future creation of a white nationalistic state?
@killerskiss09 That Zion has been the homeland of Judaism for 3500 years is incontrovertible. Which would be the caucasian homeland? Where would its borders be? Would you rebel against the United States to secede a state? Which one would vote to leave the Union? And would all whites be welcome? I'm pretty white- blonde from Lithuania. Would I be entitled to citizenship in the new white country? Or is my neck not red-enough?
@democast Funny how you embrace the sinnister idea of a purely "jewish homeland" (Just kick the Muslims out and let the rest of the world pay the price indefinitly) but become hostile at the idea of a white one "my neck not red enough." Twisted double standards. Zionism turns otherwise decent people into sociopaths.
@killerskiss09 Conversely, why should whites, but not Jews, be entitled to their own country? Zion has been the land of the Jews since the Bible- the Muslims invaded many centuries later. How would you ethnically cleanse the territory- a new civil war? And please answer my previous questions. What makes you a nation? Would your White Nation offer citizenship to whites who are atheists? Homosexual? Retarded? Who wouldn't you sterilize? The insignia on your flag is clearly apparent.
@newscraft My argument is if Jews are entitled to their own country... so are whites. It's Jews who want a homogenious society for themseves but push "diversity" on everyone else. And obviously a Pan-European order would offer citzenship to europeans who want to live in a western society. That's it. It wouldn't sterilize or ethnically cleanse like Israel - Don't worry. Look up the documentary The Ringworm Children where dark skinned Sephardic Jews were blasted with cancer.
Fuck you Hitchens your the common enemy of humanity along with your friends Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and all the rest of the neo conservatives. You lot have the blood of millions of innocent people on your hands. You are every bit as bad as what you purport to hate.
@DrorEyal36 "1. Its principles would be derived from Jewish holy writ"
You mean like the passages in the talmud that say "the best of the goyim should be killed"? Kind of like Tsar Nicholas and his family? Kind of like the tens of millions of Christian Slavs who died under the bolsheviks? Kind of like JFK, RFK, JFK Jr.? Kind of like how various jewish machinations such as "critical theory" and cultural marxism have very effectively brought Western Civilization to the brink of destruction?
@DrorEyal36 You want him to jump through your hoop like a good little doggie? While you ignore the rest of the very compelling evidence he presented? Maybe Marx said "jews are greedy pigs". So what? What about all the other notable judeo-communist slaughterers he mentioned? What about Julius & Ethel Rosenberg, who handed America's nuclear secrets to the soviets? What about subversives like Saul Alinsky who have been working overtime to destroy America?
@DrorEyal36 Marxism has EVERYTHING to do with judaism. Just as run-away monopoly capitalism has everything to do with judaism. It is a false dialectic, in which both "opposing" sides are controlled by the same party.
@DrorEyal36 If you have the intellectual depth to analyse Rand's philosophy and prose for yourself (instead of just gaping in awe at her big vocabulary), you might find that it is actually quite destructive to the Western Man. It is an exaggerated "hyper-individualism" almost akin to Gordon Gecko's "greed is good" quip. Roark and Galt are twisted, warped caricatures of an "idealized" Western Man viewed through the eyes of a very EASTERN, COLLECTIVIST jew. Not the best role models.
@DrorEyal36 Everyone is equal, obviously that includes Jews.
Please provide the Marx source now.
"The USSR outlawed Judaism" ROFLMFAO
"Stalin called himself a Zionist" - New York Times, Mar 17, 1955
"In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty."
- Stalin, Jan 12, 1931 - Reply to an Inquiry of the Jewish News Agency in the United States
@DrorEyal36 Nothing against Jews as individuals, some of my very favourite authors and musicians are Jews. But facts are facts. Bolshevism was Jewish conceived, financed and led.
But please provide sources for your Marx Jew n******, and Lenin (Jewish grandpa), Trotsky, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Grigory Zinoviev, Radek, Uritsky, Lozovsky, Kamenev, Reichman, Stanislav, Messing, Unszlicht, Frenkel, Rappoport, Berman and not forgetting Yagoda & Kaganovich denouncing Judaism though.
In 1938 1 in 3 Italian Jews was a member of the Fascist Party. Mussolini's government included the Jews Aldo Finzi and Ettore Ovazza.
He spent the last 15yrs criticising Xians for the Crusades, but was, and is, fully in support of Neo Con occupation of Iraq, which has killed over 1.5m people, more than were killed in 200 years of the Crusades.
As Norman Finkelstein put it: "through sheer manipulation of words, he can pass off flatulent emissions as bouquets."
You creeps make up any outrageous theory, twist any fact in your vain attempts to exonerate yourselves.
What about Moshe Hess, a progenitor of BOTH communism & zionism, & one of Marx's main influences? Did he "hate jews" too? What about the COMMUNE-LIKE kibbutzim in Israel? Clearly there's no link between that tradition & the heavy jewish involvement in communism. What about extreme collectivism as a survival mechanism for a minority tribe?
Hitchens is an admitted communist. Just like his jewish role-models, Karl Marx & Leon Trotsky (Lev Davidovich Bronstein). Marx was influenced by Moshe Hess, one of the progenitors of BOTH communism AND zionism. Many Israelis spend time living on "kibbutzim", which are like small farming/hippie COMMUNES.
Nearly all leading bolshevik revolutionaries were jews. Kaganovich, Yagoda, Sverdlov, Zinoviev, Kamanev, Bela Kun in Hungary, Rosa Luxemburg in Germany...
@lynchie3000 They're going to cause WW3. They have too many useful-idiot "Christian-zionist" golems to do their bidding. Make provisions for yourself that will carry you through war and depression.
I think the gateway to tyrrany in the west is gay-bashing. It's becoming popular in some of the more liberal western countries (ie the Netherlands) for muslims to beat up gays. Women and gays fought hard for rights in the west. I think that they'll be a line of defence against a muslim way of life taking over.
Hitchens is a tosser. I taped him once - I hadn't heard of him. He has no idea of Jewish mass murders in the USSR. Or maybe he's paid; it doesn't matter. He's just another coward.
I would definitely disagree with ppshchik that antisemitism has no real meaning; it's a very real phenomenon that sometimes is and sometimes isn't prettied up as anti-Zionism or criticism of Israel. Any sober-minded person will tell you that making the distinction can be very tricky. That said, I would agree that some people cry wolf in ways that are not helpful to the fight against the genuine article.
Unfortunately the term "Anti-Semitism" no longer holds any true meaning as it was in the past since it has became a commercial term abused the Anti Defamation League to slander any critics of Israeli policies. It's a sad thing.
@KCUAC also, comparing people criticizing the policies of Israel in the 21st century to murderers like Hitler, Tzar Nicholas, and Stalin who massacred Jews in the 20th century is clearly laughable.
Jews are great people, but extremist organizations like the ADL have certainly distort the meaning of "anti-semitism". I have many Jew friends in my school, does that make me a Jihadist or Nazi?
It's clear why YOU would wish to dilute the charge of "anti-Semite." You've actually demonstrated the need for there to be a strong, Jewish sanctuary.
@democast "need for there to be a strong, Jewish sanctuary."
At whose expense, guarded with whose blood, sweat, and tears, and on whose soil?
There is no "sanctuary" for any of us. GROW THE FUCK UP. Go to your filthy little sandbox and DEFEND IT WITH YOUR OWN MONEY AND LIVES, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER NATION.
And give back every dime of ill-gotten usury gains, holocau$t "reparations" extortion, etc. Give back all military hardware swindled out of the American taxpayers...
I have yet to see anyone refut ppshchik's case...he's absolutely right. Organisations like AIPAC, ADL, JDL and Friends of Israel continue to think ''anti-Zionism'' is synonymous with anti-semitism, which is, obviously, absolute rubbish and does nothing but further alienate the two sides.
ppshitstick. So ya too much of a lying phony scumbag anti Semite to admit it and need the cover of just "criticising Israel". Gor it. Like most Marxist sodden leftards ya fulla shit, kid. No really. You are the "sad THING". Colonel Robert Neville blogspot com zombietime com thepeoplescube com michellemalkin com breitbart com lookingattheleft com climatedepot com eco imperialism com PJTV com steynonline com Tim Blair blog ANdrew Bolt blog
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itostrong923v 1 month ago
democast is slime. The future will get much worse and I will be in the front aiming for you.
Annihilate3275 2 months ago
So true. Anti-Semitism is pure evil.
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@Athenaikos Zionism is pure evil.
killerskiss09 2 months ago
@killerskiss09 You mean Judaism, don't you?
democast 2 months ago
@democast Put it this way... If crticism of supremacist, racist Zionism means hatred of Judaism - therefore to criticise Nazism is hatred of Christianity...
killerskiss09 2 months ago
@killerskiss09 No, put it THIS way- you dislike Jews and try to rationalize it as anti-Zionism. BTW, Zionism is merely Jewish self-determination in their ancestral homeland. Which you unwittingly justify through reinforcing your anti-Jewish bigotry. Q.E.D.
democast 2 months ago
@democast First off... Hitchens himself was anti-zionist. Second, if I hated Jews I wouldn't have to rationalize it, I would just hate them. "Zionism is merely Jewish self-determination..." What about white self-determination? If one is legitimate so is the other. Would you agree with the future creation of a white nationalistic state?
killerskiss09 2 months ago
@killerskiss09 That Zion has been the homeland of Judaism for 3500 years is incontrovertible. Which would be the caucasian homeland? Where would its borders be? Would you rebel against the United States to secede a state? Which one would vote to leave the Union? And would all whites be welcome? I'm pretty white- blonde from Lithuania. Would I be entitled to citizenship in the new white country? Or is my neck not red-enough?
democast 2 months ago
@democast Funny how you embrace the sinnister idea of a purely "jewish homeland" (Just kick the Muslims out and let the rest of the world pay the price indefinitly) but become hostile at the idea of a white one "my neck not red enough." Twisted double standards. Zionism turns otherwise decent people into sociopaths.
killerskiss09 2 months ago
@killerskiss09 Conversely, why should whites, but not Jews, be entitled to their own country? Zion has been the land of the Jews since the Bible- the Muslims invaded many centuries later. How would you ethnically cleanse the territory- a new civil war? And please answer my previous questions. What makes you a nation? Would your White Nation offer citizenship to whites who are atheists? Homosexual? Retarded? Who wouldn't you sterilize? The insignia on your flag is clearly apparent.
newscraft 2 months ago
@newscraft My argument is if Jews are entitled to their own country... so are whites. It's Jews who want a homogenious society for themseves but push "diversity" on everyone else. And obviously a Pan-European order would offer citzenship to europeans who want to live in a western society. That's it. It wouldn't sterilize or ethnically cleanse like Israel - Don't worry. Look up the documentary The Ringworm Children where dark skinned Sephardic Jews were blasted with cancer.
killerskiss09 2 months ago
Fuck you Hitchens your the common enemy of humanity along with your friends Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and all the rest of the neo conservatives. You lot have the blood of millions of innocent people on your hands. You are every bit as bad as what you purport to hate.
star50ify 5 months ago
@star50ify How? Which "innocent people?" How him?
democast 5 months ago
@DrorEyal36 "1. Its principles would be derived from Jewish holy writ"
You mean like the passages in the talmud that say "the best of the goyim should be killed"? Kind of like Tsar Nicholas and his family? Kind of like the tens of millions of Christian Slavs who died under the bolsheviks? Kind of like JFK, RFK, JFK Jr.? Kind of like how various jewish machinations such as "critical theory" and cultural marxism have very effectively brought Western Civilization to the brink of destruction?
1776Matthew 7 months ago
@DrorEyal36 You want him to jump through your hoop like a good little doggie? While you ignore the rest of the very compelling evidence he presented? Maybe Marx said "jews are greedy pigs". So what? What about all the other notable judeo-communist slaughterers he mentioned? What about Julius & Ethel Rosenberg, who handed America's nuclear secrets to the soviets? What about subversives like Saul Alinsky who have been working overtime to destroy America?
Capitalism Vs Communism = FALSE DIALECTIC
1776Matthew 7 months ago
@DrorEyal36 Marxism has EVERYTHING to do with judaism. Just as run-away monopoly capitalism has everything to do with judaism. It is a false dialectic, in which both "opposing" sides are controlled by the same party.
1776Matthew 7 months ago
@DrorEyal36 If you have the intellectual depth to analyse Rand's philosophy and prose for yourself (instead of just gaping in awe at her big vocabulary), you might find that it is actually quite destructive to the Western Man. It is an exaggerated "hyper-individualism" almost akin to Gordon Gecko's "greed is good" quip. Roark and Galt are twisted, warped caricatures of an "idealized" Western Man viewed through the eyes of a very EASTERN, COLLECTIVIST jew. Not the best role models.
1776Matthew 7 months ago
@DrorEyal36 Everyone is equal, obviously that includes Jews.
Please provide the Marx source now.
"The USSR outlawed Judaism" ROFLMFAO
"Stalin called himself a Zionist" - New York Times, Mar 17, 1955
"In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty."
- Stalin, Jan 12, 1931 - Reply to an Inquiry of the Jewish News Agency in the United States
lynchie3000 7 months ago
@DrorEyal36 Nothing against Jews as individuals, some of my very favourite authors and musicians are Jews. But facts are facts. Bolshevism was Jewish conceived, financed and led.
But please provide sources for your Marx Jew n******, and Lenin (Jewish grandpa), Trotsky, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Grigory Zinoviev, Radek, Uritsky, Lozovsky, Kamenev, Reichman, Stanislav, Messing, Unszlicht, Frenkel, Rappoport, Berman and not forgetting Yagoda & Kaganovich denouncing Judaism though.
lynchie3000 7 months ago
@DrorEyal36 Wow, you're quite the liar. Marx called Jews "N******?" lmao
None of the "so-called Jew" who led Bolshevism denounced Judaism.
lynchie3000 7 months ago
@DrorEyal36
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." — Lenin
"The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him." — Lenin
"Lenin's maternal grandfather was a Jew, this ancestry of the founder of the Soviet state had been suppressed." — New York Times August 05, 1992
"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish." — Sever Plocker (Jewish), ynet news, Dec 21, 2006
lynchie3000 7 months ago
Hitchens you Zionist Neo-Con shill.
In 1938 1 in 3 Italian Jews was a member of the Fascist Party. Mussolini's government included the Jews Aldo Finzi and Ettore Ovazza.
He spent the last 15yrs criticising Xians for the Crusades, but was, and is, fully in support of Neo Con occupation of Iraq, which has killed over 1.5m people, more than were killed in 200 years of the Crusades.
As Norman Finkelstein put it: "through sheer manipulation of words, he can pass off flatulent emissions as bouquets."
lynchie3000 7 months ago
@DrorEyal36 You have me sounding like a broken record. I must have been reading my own comments out of the corner of my eye.
1776Matthew 7 months ago
@DrorEyal36 BWAAAHAHAAA!
You creeps make up any outrageous theory, twist any fact in your vain attempts to exonerate yourselves.
What about Moshe Hess, a progenitor of BOTH communism & zionism, & one of Marx's main influences? Did he "hate jews" too? What about the COMMUNE-LIKE kibbutzim in Israel? Clearly there's no link between that tradition & the heavy jewish involvement in communism. What about extreme collectivism as a survival mechanism for a minority tribe?
You're not fooling anyone.
1776Matthew 7 months ago
This Jerkoff got what he deserve in Hamra street in Beirut
killersheik 7 months ago
Hitchens is an admitted communist. Just like his jewish role-models, Karl Marx & Leon Trotsky (Lev Davidovich Bronstein). Marx was influenced by Moshe Hess, one of the progenitors of BOTH communism AND zionism. Many Israelis spend time living on "kibbutzim", which are like small farming/hippie COMMUNES.
Nearly all leading bolshevik revolutionaries were jews. Kaganovich, Yagoda, Sverdlov, Zinoviev, Kamanev, Bela Kun in Hungary, Rosa Luxemburg in Germany...
See why commie Hitchens loves jews?
1776Matthew 7 months ago
@1776Matthew Hitchens' grandmother was a Jew. In this video @ 1:06 he states: "it's hatred (antisemitism) towards us, is a compliment."
lynchie3000 7 months ago
@lynchie3000 They're going to cause WW3. They have too many useful-idiot "Christian-zionist" golems to do their bidding. Make provisions for yourself that will carry you through war and depression.
1776Matthew 7 months ago
I think the gateway to tyrrany in the west is gay-bashing. It's becoming popular in some of the more liberal western countries (ie the Netherlands) for muslims to beat up gays. Women and gays fought hard for rights in the west. I think that they'll be a line of defence against a muslim way of life taking over.
newguy33X 9 months ago
not really caring if he said anything else ... Right On!
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"The day will come when Europeans will either dominate or be destroyed. Either way they will acknowledge that Hitler was right"
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foxrat123 1 year ago
Finally he says something right.
SkyRaZzor 1 year ago
I think Hitchens is Islamophobic. He should realize Jews are responsible for the immigration problem in Europe.
foxrat123 1 year ago
@foxrat123 no one gives a shit about the term ''islamaphobia'' its absolutely meaningless.
moh490234890238490 1 year ago 9
@foxrat123
There are less than 10 million Jews in Europe. How do you figure to make such a baseless claim?
TheRealEmet 8 months ago
plain fact: everyone who disagrees with me is secretly controled by zionist thugs
FOIIAD 1 year ago
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fuck you hitchens,
it can take different forms,
normally we agree,but
I can see you favor one false God over others.
TheElefaunt 1 year ago
Hitchens is a tosser. I taped him once - I hadn't heard of him. He has no idea of Jewish mass murders in the USSR. Or maybe he's paid; it doesn't matter. He's just another coward.
rerevisionist 1 year ago
@rerevisionist
just consider that stalin murdered all the jewish ussr officials before he ran amok.
FOIIAD 1 year ago
@FOIIAD - Oh wel, that's all right then.
rerevisionist 1 year ago
I would definitely disagree with ppshchik that antisemitism has no real meaning; it's a very real phenomenon that sometimes is and sometimes isn't prettied up as anti-Zionism or criticism of Israel. Any sober-minded person will tell you that making the distinction can be very tricky. That said, I would agree that some people cry wolf in ways that are not helpful to the fight against the genuine article.
FORTUNERED 1 year ago
Unfortunately the term "Anti-Semitism" no longer holds any true meaning as it was in the past since it has became a commercial term abused the Anti Defamation League to slander any critics of Israeli policies. It's a sad thing.
ppshchik 2 years ago
so? you are the new and improved breed of Jihadist or Nazi??
just trying to pin your position down, please feel free to explain if you can.
KCUAC 2 years ago
@KCUAC Is calling someone a Jihadist and Nazi the best thing you can do to refute my statement?
Your comment just showed your own immaturity and generalization.
ppshchik 1 year ago 2
@KCUAC also, comparing people criticizing the policies of Israel in the 21st century to murderers like Hitler, Tzar Nicholas, and Stalin who massacred Jews in the 20th century is clearly laughable.
Jews are great people, but extremist organizations like the ADL have certainly distort the meaning of "anti-semitism". I have many Jew friends in my school, does that make me a Jihadist or Nazi?
ppshchik 1 year ago
It's clear why YOU would wish to dilute the charge of "anti-Semite." You've actually demonstrated the need for there to be a strong, Jewish sanctuary.
democast 2 years ago 2
@democast "need for there to be a strong, Jewish sanctuary."
At whose expense, guarded with whose blood, sweat, and tears, and on whose soil?
There is no "sanctuary" for any of us. GROW THE FUCK UP. Go to your filthy little sandbox and DEFEND IT WITH YOUR OWN MONEY AND LIVES, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER NATION.
And give back every dime of ill-gotten usury gains, holocau$t "reparations" extortion, etc. Give back all military hardware swindled out of the American taxpayers...
1776Matthew 7 months ago
Agreed.
progress200 1 year ago
I have yet to see anyone refut ppshchik's case...he's absolutely right. Organisations like AIPAC, ADL, JDL and Friends of Israel continue to think ''anti-Zionism'' is synonymous with anti-semitism, which is, obviously, absolute rubbish and does nothing but further alienate the two sides.
ykoshy 1 year ago
ppshitstick. So ya too much of a lying phony scumbag anti Semite to admit it and need the cover of just "criticising Israel". Gor it. Like most Marxist sodden leftards ya fulla shit, kid. No really. You are the "sad THING". Colonel Robert Neville blogspot com zombietime com thepeoplescube com michellemalkin com breitbart com lookingattheleft com climatedepot com eco imperialism com PJTV com steynonline com Tim Blair blog ANdrew Bolt blog
gmakepiece 1 year ago
jews are the real antisemits because they kill millions of semitic iraqis, palistinians,lebanese .
jewish supremacy is the reason why jews are hated wordwide, but this alcoholic neocon would never admit that....
backgroundMASCAL 8 months ago