It was clearly a penalty u dumb fools according to fifa rules, he was in the box, australian guy goes there, doesnt even touch the ball and makes contact so he made him fall. Thats a 100% fair penalty. With his elbow he hits Grosso's knee and then with his hand he grabs the foot of grosso. In the box, doesnt touch ball and makes contact with other player. Enough said
Firstly,it's not a penalty for sure.Italy got his part of luck.But now what about 4 years before in 2002 when they got 5 GOALS disallowed? Not 1 but 5.Ripped off by the same Guus Hiddink and his South Korean team.That's why it makes me laugh when i always hear about the ''Italian acting'',especially when it comes from other latins like French,Portuguese or Spanish who used to cheat as well.Italians won because they never gave up.It was a lucky part of their tournament.Get over it
@donovanhonolulu no he was cutting back and lucas neill slid in right near him. maybe not the BIGGEST tackle ever, but if it happened to AUS you wouldn't be complaining. Its futbol...that shit happens, we all know and have seen it. Call the Italians cheaters, but cheaters never win....but we won bitches!
@donovanhonolulu you wrote 'It was a dive because Grosso is already falling down before any contact is made".. Wrong statement wrong conclusion. The first contact that was made was the elbow against the knee. Fabio Grosso was definitely not falling then.
Grosso lifts his head to call for a penalty, then drops it again and lays there for a minute to milk it. Italians had better stick to their opera, because their acting is shit.
Overall...theres no penalty, but Neill did cause obstruction and completely missed the ball as a result. It would have been an horrendous tackle if he made contact, I don't even understand why he went to slide in like that, especially if your the last man back. Its unfortunate, but overall the game could have gone 50/50 anyways.
it doesn't matter now italy got knocked out in the group stage of 2010 world cup by slovakia and paraguay and drew with New Zealand. This is coming from a pom
despite any sort of 'contact' he still could have gone around him, but instead took the easy road of just falling over like the good little actor he is.
As for the penalty though, embalished or not, it IS a penalty (and you know it's true when it's coming from a guy who's never been impresssed with or crazy about the Italian national team). The Australian guy goes for the ball with his feet crossing like scissors, which is a textbook fowl and yellow card. Of course fowl in the box = penalty. If he at least got the ball, it may have been debatable (though still iffy), but since he got the foot and not the ball, there should be no dispute.
Even though there have been many Italian players and clubs that I've liked throughout the years (Buffon being my favorite), I have always felt their national team has been overrated, going all the way back to 1970. How many times have they advanced by just a single goal, or worse, penalty kicks? I know many would say one goal is all you need; true, but that also doesn't make you a DEFINITIVE champion, not by a long stretch...
Neill grabbed Grosso's ankle to bring him down so it's a clear penalty. Anyone who disputes that, the foul is clearer on other youtube tapes so take a look before spewing shite about diving. Even if we ignore the ridiculous pro-australian decisions, Italy were the better side so there can be no complaints.
@FranticMydlo Errr, no they didn't you lying cunt. Umpire? Haha, seriously? What a pointless comment.
lucas neil sliding tackle was really awful... if a defender wants to get the ball he points directly at it, on the countrary neil launches himself horizontally to the trajectory of fabio grosso and doing so gives him time to change direction but not to avoid physical contact... bad tackle = penalty
@banipera So this mighty video of yours might prove that Italy are winners and cheaters but also shows that Australians are horrible tacklers that deserved to lose this game. 1st Grosso rides the Bresciano, which he could have gone down for, then shows great skill w/ an expert cutback on neils foolish&clumsy challenge which he should have made on his feet, neil couldve avoided contact but he raises his left arm. Any footballer in the world would go down from a 90 min slidetackle in the box.
You guys are idiots. he tried to touch past the slide tackel but in the end he tripped over him. shut the fuck up. we italians are the best. always will be.
@seandb95 My guess is that Fabio Grosso sleeps quite well at night. He was tripped by Lucas Neill. So why would he not sleep well? Check out this video and see for yourself "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing"
@arang0314 Grosso made contact with Neil on purpose not the other way round. If you read the Grosso interview in the FOOTBALL+ magazine he pretty well admits to milking a foul. Australia will one day become a football powerhouse, and no dodgy officials will be able to stop us :)
@seandb95 I have read this so called interview. It has ZERO credibility. For starters it was only published in Australia. Then there is no indication of where the interview took place and in what language. There is no soundtrack. And worst of all it contradicts the game video which shows that Lucas Neill used his hand to trip Fabio Grosso. See this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing"
@arang0314 Mate I've seen the vid and everything looks worse in slow motion, just to remind you that people do not play football in slow motion. The video is biased and looks only at one side of the arguement. Heres a direct extract from the interview: " I saw him slide in and i maybe accentuated it a little" Grosso says with a smile. Now this is an interview in Italy by a European based football journalist who works for a media group who own many international magazines aswell as FOOTBALL+
@arang0314 Well that quote came "straight from the horses mouth", im pretty sure he had his right arm out to stop himself from smacking his head on the ground and used his left arm to shield himself from getting a knee to the face. If fabio grosso was really determined to go through to goal he would've jumped over lucas neil with ease, but he's a left back who doesent have the instincts or balance of a striker. Theres a reason for the video title and everyone thinks to technicaly not practicaly
@MrBen51309 You wrote "I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet."
I don't know why you say this. Fabio Grosso was tripped while he was running. What efforts do you want him to make? Check this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing "
@MrBen51309 You wrote "I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet."
I don't know why you say this. Fabio Grosso was tripped while he was running. What efforts do you want him to make? Check this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing "
@MrBen51309 You wrote "I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet."
I don't know why you say this. Fabio Grosso was tripped while he was running. What efforts do you want him to make? Check this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing"
@ArmorKingRulez i dont defend anyone it might look ridiculous but its a penalty, he lifts his elbow and obstacles the attacker from controlling the ball, im sorry for australia but defender should react better
its a reflex to defend ur fucking face wen ur on the ground nd there is a player that has studs and u dont wanna get trampled on u fucking clown. u know nothing bout the simple bio mechanics of the human body. clearly ur italian and i hit a nerve wen i wrote my comment so suck it up. trust me its the last time they will win a world cup in a very long time. oh did u happen to watch the last world cup? they couldnt even contend to defend their title. that shows how good they really are.case closed
the point is italy dived their way to a world cup win and the class of soccer has been decreased to a point where i rather watch 2 monkeys pick ticks off each others back. italy has killed soccer. and i say to italy get fuked
@KePz13 you wrote "its a natural reflex to put your arm out at a retard running straight at you rather than going around "
If you take the time to look at the video closely you will see that Fabio Grosso kicked the ball around Lucas Neill and then turned toward the ball. It is in this direction (toward the ball) that FG fell. Lucas Neill turned 90 degrees to get in FG's way. That is definitely NOT a natural reflex. It is deliberate interference
@maxsmartmusic you fucking cunt how was that a dive, lucas fucker grabbed his foot you dickhead aussie cunt. You are just mad because Australia will never win a world cup they are totally fucking shit.
@arang0314 really? thats still so pathetic...should not have been a penalty either way. his elbow would not have brought enough force to really take down Grosso
@TASSOS502 I do not suppose that you have watch the video I pointed you to. When you are running and suddenly an elbow is put in your way at knee level, you will go down. Also Lucas Neill used his hand to make sure FG would go down. Also if you watch the video you will see that Lucas Neill rotated nearly 90 degrees to get between FG and the ball.
@arang0314 no i saw the video and i saw how in depth u went into the "trip". but that does not justify how easily grosso fell over neill. these players go through knocks and bumps all the time and if they need to stay on their feet they will, if they find an advantage in going down and claim a foul they will. The same goes for the defender. he saw a potential threat so he went down and tried to block grosso's path, but i seriously doubt his elbow forced grosso to the ground.
@TASSOS502 wrote "but i seriously doubt his elbow forced grosso to the ground. "
What about the hand on the foot ?
Surprising how you want to see intent in Fabio Grosso yet you ignore blantant intent to interfere on Lucas Neill's part. Fabio Grosso had a unique opportunity to score the winning goal he would not have giving that up in the hope of getting a penalty. The first thing he did after the fall was to get up on his knees and hammer the ground with his fists. Very fustrated he was.
@TASSOS502 you wrote "he saw a potential threat so he went down and tried to block grosso's path"
Trying to block someone's passage is a penalty even if the opponent stays on his feet. Unless of course you are also playing the ball. Lucas Neill could no longer play the ball so his attemts at blocking the path are strictly illegal and a penalty. The referee was only a few feet away and saw the whole thing.
@hotdog2409 Your timing is all off. Fabio Grosso was tripped. As soon as he hit the ground the ref called it a penalty. Fabio Grosso then get up on his knees and hammered the ground with his fists. This can hardly be called faking an injury to get a penalty.
@MakaveliWillReturn I didn't know obeying the laws of gravity was obstruction,and falling over to which a retarded italian cant seem to keep his balance when running over.
@ActualyNo he choose to slide, all grosso had to do is fall over him. Why would you try to evade a tackle at the 93' that can be a penalty for the win. Your either from Australian or from a place that didnt even participate in the world cup event i bet. If the goalie would of stopped it nobody would be crying today?
@ActualyNo Every team has something to argue about after the cup is done except the winner, so suck it up and stop complaining, these guys played for their countries losers or not they made them proud. thats how much you appreciate the sport. 2010 Spain dove the whole world cup winning 2 reds and one in the final. Nobody complained about that. If you don't know the game don't speak of it.
@ActualyNo The reason Fabio Grosso could not keep his balance, as you say, is that he was tripped. First Lucas Neill sticks his elbow out just as FG was passing by and hits his knee. Then Lucas Neill reaches far behind his back with his hand and finds FG's foot.
Dude just look at 0:09 to 0:11. It wasnt a penalty. It wasnt a dive but he accidentaly fell over. Theres no fuckin penalty in it. As much as I was pissed of with the italians Im over this.
@REWTASW My friend, you are correct. It was not a PK. Italian players were as surprised as australians. But on the other hand, you can't say that Italy did not desearve to win the WC. They played better than Germany and France. By the way, at the final game, there was no PK to France eather and Italy still won. Sorry for my english, Im italian. Greetings.
@Cationification contact ≠ a foul. EVER WONDERED WHY THEY CALL IT A "CONTACT" SPORT? FUCK YOU ITALIAN BITCH! I am not Australians but I will always hate Italy for the catastrophic performances and dives that propelled them to the final in 06. FUCK ITALTY! UNWORTHY BASTARDS! KARMA KICKED YOUR ASS IN SOUTH AFRICA! TWICE!
@REWTASW you are a fucking idiot just like the rest of australia supporters niel took grossos leg (contract with player none whatsoever with the ball) cleary penalty every one that i have spoken to who knows what the are talking about says it was a penalty even my german friend says it is and we knocked them out in the final 4
I laugh at all those who think this was a dive. at the worst it should have been a no call but he dove way too early and got his upperbody right at the players knees. If he didn't do that weird move that got him off balance he would have bowl over and flipper over the Aussie.
The awkward motion he made to try and avoid the player on the ground so as to not trip over him.... he should have just done that and then noone would be even arguing since it would have been an obvious penalty.
Also if you look at other angles you will see that the Australian guy on the ground actually trips him with his hand on the foot or something (don't remember exactly where)
@LAOJoe09 Actually that weird motion that you are talking about is FG's knee hitting LN's elbow. LN sticks out his elbow to block FG's passage. FG is then off-balance.
@LAOJoe09 You wrote "The awkward motion he made to try and avoid the player on the ground so as to not trip over him"
The awkward motion that you talk about was caused by the fact that Lucas Neill stuck his elbow in the way and Fabio Grosso's knee hit it. This contact caused FG's foot to fall back to the ground. You see FG was running with both feet in the air when his knee hit LN's elbow. That explain the awkward motion. Lucas Neill then finished him off with his hand on FG's foot
Italy never deserved to win if all they're gonna do is act their to a penalty, I would say they deserve to win if they played with a bit of dignity but this is below real men, mate u do that in rugby league no one is goin to show you mercy, it's in the past now so fuk it....btw when u guys do play fair u can't even pull a win against NZ how shameful
@puns69 there is nothing undignified or unmanly about being tripped. Fabio Grosso was deliberately tripped by Lucas Neill. Not accidentally tripped but deliberately tripped.
not a dive >.< clearly made heavy contact a simple penalty fair as get over it faggots!!! Italy ends up winning the world cup best thing that ever happened
@1dazba u need help bro sorry to say but u have problems get ova urself mate just think like this ok australia did a silly mistake by fouling in the box coz dats the fifa rules n we did the wrong thing hopefully well do better next time :) its only a game at the end of the day :) don't blame italy if they are just too god that we beat everyone that year and all the other 3 years :P so bad luck
Guys this was 4 years ago now. I remember how I felt after that game and I still have my opinions on whether or not it was a penalty. But honestly is there any point arguing about it anymore? Grosso didn't cheat, nor did Neill. It is was up to the Ref who may have harshly awarded a penalty, but don't blame players for the referees error.
all i can say is if u think italy cheat then i dont how u watch soccer bcoz ive seen so many teams do the worst fake fouls n u guys complain about us cheating thats disscusting its not cheating bcoz in the end of the day its the reffs decission to call the foul not italies ok so fuk off if u can't handle losing then don't watch soccer plus in 2010 swiss vsed brazil n kaka elbowed one of the players in the chest when the reff wasn't looking n the swiss guy fell n held his face now wtf doucalldat?
who ever thinks italy cheated are stupid it was a fould n the fifa rules are simply do not foul i nthe box or it is a penalty plain n simple n the lucas neil too k the risk n fukd up which means its a fukn foul so go fuck yourselves if u hate italy but don't complain coz u gguys gave away penalty n can't handle the fact that u guys lost your problem its only a game at the end of the day no need to hate ppl just coz your country didn't win n even if theaussies went through they won't get far
lol every1 hating on italy is hilarious. nobody views their own team making stupid things i.e diving, faking injuries. its soccer every1 does it, so every1 suck it up and stop being a bunch of fuckin ignorant princesses
@ALIENS95 that's why I call you, because you are itallian. look you national team and that moron inzaghi you are all like pussies. you all fake fouls it's natural for you. I didn't think that you are realy faggot it's impression for people who are cowards and do everything like faggots... dirty way
@arang0314 He did that because it is instinct when you have someone running straight at you, he wasn't going to let the Italian bastard just kick him in his side.
It was a penalty though, only cause Grosso is a fucking pussy and made no effort to stay on his feet, he still could of easily got a shot away if he stayed on his feet. Why was he on the ground for a minute after it happened? ask yourself that.
@HaleMate93 wrote "He did that because it is instinct when you have someone running straight at you..."
Fabio Grosso was not running straight at LN. LN threw himself in front of him. FG changed direction after kicking the ball around LN. There would have been no contact between the two. So LN stuck his elbow out to make sure there was contact.
alright. when serbia or australia win a world cup then they can talk shit about italy.
2nd of all. he obstructed GROSSO. learn the rules. ou can just lie on the ground in the middle of play. if neil was a decent defender and not a low skilled Aussie he wouldnt of ever missed the tackle to begin with
This is a joke. It is the equivilant of having an Australian player lying injured on the ground in the box and an italian dribbling the ball up next to him the with great uncoordination running into said injured player, tripping and claiming there was contact.
@TheUndergroundAOTP isn't a little obvious? he knocks the ball away and purposely runs into the player and falls over even though he doesn't even touch the australian player. its all a dive
@1dazba@1dazba It is Lucas Neill who "touches" Fabio Grosso. The first contact occurs when FG tries to run by LN. LN lifts his elbow and stick it out into FG's way making contact with his knee. FG's foot then falls back to ground. FG is off balance. LN then moves his hand behind his back and finds FG's foot. He tripped him! An obvious penalty. Look at the slow motion video on youtube called "Lucas Neill vs Fabio Grosso - Was There Contact? "
@1dazba@1dazba It is Lucas Neill who "touches" Fabio Grosso. The first contact occurs when FG tries to run by LN. LN lifts his elbow and stick it out into FG's way making contact with his knee. FG's foot then falls back to ground. FG is then off balance. LN then moves his hand behind his back and finds FG's foot. He tripped him! An obvious penalty. Look at the slow motion video on youtube called "Lucas Neill vs Fabio Grosso - Was There Contact? "
@1dazba It is Lucas Neill who "touches" Fabio Grosso. The first contact occurs when FG tries to run by LN. LN lifts his elbow and stick it out into FG's way making contact with his knee. FG's foot then falls back to ground.
FG is then off balance. LN then moves his hand behind his back and finds FG's foot. He tripped him! An obvious penalty. Look at the slow motion video on youtube called "Lucas Neill vs Fabio Grosso - Was There Contact? "
@arang0314 i would be ashamed to have such an unsportsmanlike like team representing my country where the only way to win is cheating. im not saying only italy do it but they are known for diving so you can hardly believe that what happened on the video there is actually fair because of italys bad reputation alright.
@1dazba Reputations cannot change tripping into diving.
Facts are facts. The video gives the facts. The video shows that Lucas Neill deliberately tripped Fabio Grosso. If LN had kept his elbow and hand to himself I would have glady agreed with you. So now what is your logic. Since Italy has a reputation for diving then Lucas Neill did not use his elbow to block FG and his hand to trip him even though the video clearly shows that he did.
@arang0314 this video doesn't mean anything to me but i was only speaking in general that italy do tend to cheat (in particular DE ROSSI!) and i don't believe that is fair ok. i don't care if this is a actually a foul i was just saying that they do cheat
@1dazba I will not argue over opinions. Did Italy cheat more than other teams? Frankly, I do not know. I tend to believe that there is plenty of cheating to go around. This thread, however, is about one event in 2006. Some people claim that Fabio Grosso cheated. The video shows that it was Lucas Neill who cheated. You cannot rely on what everybody says you need to check ever case on its own merit.
@1dazba Agree with that Italians cheat but not all of them the biggest cheat is Marcello Lippi though cos (2006) he got Materazzi to say something to Zidane he said this to Materazzi before the game if they were struggling in the game say about something that happened in Turin when Zidane was at Juventus.
@1dazba HAHAHAHAHHA when you learn about the fine sport of FOOTBALL maybe u willl notice that neil missed contact with the ball and made contact with grosso now whether or not grosso fell over its still a foul, and banned from world cups? Italia have won more world cups then Australia has been in. And also Italia had a red card in this match from about the 50th minute-mark and Australia still couldnt win so go get a fucken VB and watch some aussie rules u dick
@ty4mem nice insults you retard to be im not even australian so why don't you go eat your fuckin spaghetti faggot and stop trying to act all big over the internet you pussy
aussie,s are crybabys in ever sport , shit pricks !
wexfordboyful 5 months ago
the whsitle should have been blown 30 seconds before that wtf is going on lol ahh well that was 5 years ago no point complaining
ros000234 6 months ago
australia sucks italy rules
franceee23 6 months ago
Where was lucas neil supposed to go? Dig a hole in the ground?? He went for the ball, not the man.
If this happend in the 5th, 10th or 15th minute , ref would've said "play on"
rolfzzzz 6 months ago
@rolfzzzz You wrote 'Where was lucas neill suppose to go?"
He could have stayed on the ground without using his elbow and hands. The fact is that Lucas Neill deliberately rotated to get in Fabio Grossos way.
arang0314 5 months ago
I like how at 0:03 he looks at around to see if anyone is looking before he acts like he's been shot. Fucking Italian wops.
Condolences from the U.S.
cossack77 6 months ago
It was clearly a penalty u dumb fools according to fifa rules, he was in the box, australian guy goes there, doesnt even touch the ball and makes contact so he made him fall. Thats a 100% fair penalty. With his elbow he hits Grosso's knee and then with his hand he grabs the foot of grosso. In the box, doesnt touch ball and makes contact with other player. Enough said
Thel4zyd0g 6 months ago
Firstly,it's not a penalty for sure.Italy got his part of luck.But now what about 4 years before in 2002 when they got 5 GOALS disallowed? Not 1 but 5.Ripped off by the same Guus Hiddink and his South Korean team.That's why it makes me laugh when i always hear about the ''Italian acting'',especially when it comes from other latins like French,Portuguese or Spanish who used to cheat as well.Italians won because they never gave up.It was a lucky part of their tournament.Get over it
MrBruntenebreux0211 6 months ago
no but u still did remember all the commotion after the world cup about all the Italian League matches being rigged
MattBirduni 6 months ago
Fabio Grosso was tripped. The ref called the penalty the very second that Grosso was on the ground.
arang0314 6 months ago
@arang0314
It was a dive because Grosso is already falling down before any contact is made
donovanhonolulu 6 months ago
@donovanhonolulu no he was cutting back and lucas neill slid in right near him. maybe not the BIGGEST tackle ever, but if it happened to AUS you wouldn't be complaining. Its futbol...that shit happens, we all know and have seen it. Call the Italians cheaters, but cheaters never win....but we won bitches!
buffonfan100 6 months ago
@buffonfan100
You won through penalties. Not much skill required.
donovanhonolulu 6 months ago
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@donovanhonolulu you wrote 'It was a dive because Grosso is already falling down before any contact is made".. Wrong statement wrong conclusion. The first contact that was made was the elbow against the knee. Fabio Grosso was definitely not falling then.
arang0314 5 months ago
well thats FIFA for you awarding faking and punishing fair play
deviled2 6 months ago
Love the way he puts his hands up at 0:43
madminnycar 6 months ago
Grosso lifts his head to call for a penalty, then drops it again and lays there for a minute to milk it. Italians had better stick to their opera, because their acting is shit.
dragospastic 6 months ago
Lucas Neil clearly got the ball
Devstar5155 6 months ago
Fabio Grosso such a faker he should of gotten a yellow card for faking
Devstar5155 6 months ago
Overall...theres no penalty, but Neill did cause obstruction and completely missed the ball as a result. It would have been an horrendous tackle if he made contact, I don't even understand why he went to slide in like that, especially if your the last man back. Its unfortunate, but overall the game could have gone 50/50 anyways.
LeRock0 6 months ago
Fabio Grosso ---> Guilty!!!
TheHox09 6 months ago
it doesn't matter now italy got knocked out in the group stage of 2010 world cup by slovakia and paraguay and drew with New Zealand. This is coming from a pom
nath1356 6 months ago
I only remember that the Australians beat as smiths
jansen11111961 6 months ago
That's a clear penalty, Are you guys Blind? Didn't you see Lucas Neill stab him in the face with his invisible knife? Gosh, your all idiots.
arsenalfc250 7 months ago 8
like any other player in the history of football wouldnt of gone down in that situation i mean come one it was a penalty for sure
popi1496 7 months ago
despite any sort of 'contact' he still could have gone around him, but instead took the easy road of just falling over like the good little actor he is.
trustfire 7 months ago
look at the defender he shove his elbow onto grosso's knee
hogmoth 7 months ago
As for the penalty though, embalished or not, it IS a penalty (and you know it's true when it's coming from a guy who's never been impresssed with or crazy about the Italian national team). The Australian guy goes for the ball with his feet crossing like scissors, which is a textbook fowl and yellow card. Of course fowl in the box = penalty. If he at least got the ball, it may have been debatable (though still iffy), but since he got the foot and not the ball, there should be no dispute.
jahaantarbiat 7 months ago
Even though there have been many Italian players and clubs that I've liked throughout the years (Buffon being my favorite), I have always felt their national team has been overrated, going all the way back to 1970. How many times have they advanced by just a single goal, or worse, penalty kicks? I know many would say one goal is all you need; true, but that also doesn't make you a DEFINITIVE champion, not by a long stretch...
jahaantarbiat 7 months ago
australians do not remember that materazzi was sent off because he touched ZAMBROTTA : Italy played 45 minutes in ten injustly!!!
satiro942 7 months ago
I remember when I was a kid the coach always told me: don't slide in the box you'll give away a penalty.
maxello65 7 months ago
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Neill grabbed Grosso's ankle to bring him down so it's a clear penalty. Anyone who disputes that, the foul is clearer on other youtube tapes so take a look before spewing shite about diving. Even if we ignore the ridiculous pro-australian decisions, Italy were the better side so there can be no complaints.
@FranticMydlo Errr, no they didn't you lying cunt. Umpire? Haha, seriously? What a pointless comment.
Azzurrini82 7 months ago
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Azzurrini82 7 months ago
lucas neil sliding tackle was really awful... if a defender wants to get the ball he points directly at it, on the countrary neil launches himself horizontally to the trajectory of fabio grosso and doing so gives him time to change direction but not to avoid physical contact... bad tackle = penalty
sagitter87 8 months ago
That and the umpire appologised to Australia after the game, after seeing the tape
FranticMydlo 8 months ago
@banipera So this mighty video of yours might prove that Italy are winners and cheaters but also shows that Australians are horrible tacklers that deserved to lose this game. 1st Grosso rides the Bresciano, which he could have gone down for, then shows great skill w/ an expert cutback on neils foolish&clumsy challenge which he should have made on his feet, neil couldve avoided contact but he raises his left arm. Any footballer in the world would go down from a 90 min slidetackle in the box.
rjsartor 8 months ago
SHUT THE FUCK UP PEOPLE ITS A FUCKING GAME.
CircaDG 8 months ago
You guys are idiots. he tried to touch past the slide tackel but in the end he tripped over him. shut the fuck up. we italians are the best. always will be.
speeddeman288 9 months ago 2
@speeddeman288 clearly this wasn't a penalty, the australian didn't even touch him with bad intentions! this was a steal
xvlxslipknot 8 months ago
seeing the foul-mouthed Aussies here go sleepless over a fair & 100% regular penalty.......PRICELESS!
photofx 9 months ago
i dont know how fabio grosso sleeps at night
seandb95 9 months ago
@seandb95 My guess is that Fabio Grosso sleeps quite well at night. He was tripped by Lucas Neill. So why would he not sleep well? Check out this video and see for yourself "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing"
arang0314 9 months ago
@arang0314 Grosso made contact with Neil on purpose not the other way round. If you read the Grosso interview in the FOOTBALL+ magazine he pretty well admits to milking a foul. Australia will one day become a football powerhouse, and no dodgy officials will be able to stop us :)
seandb95 9 months ago
@seandb95 I have read this so called interview. It has ZERO credibility. For starters it was only published in Australia. Then there is no indication of where the interview took place and in what language. There is no soundtrack. And worst of all it contradicts the game video which shows that Lucas Neill used his hand to trip Fabio Grosso. See this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing"
arang0314 9 months ago
@arang0314 Mate I've seen the vid and everything looks worse in slow motion, just to remind you that people do not play football in slow motion. The video is biased and looks only at one side of the arguement. Heres a direct extract from the interview: " I saw him slide in and i maybe accentuated it a little" Grosso says with a smile. Now this is an interview in Italy by a European based football journalist who works for a media group who own many international magazines aswell as FOOTBALL+
seandb95 9 months ago
@seandb95 You wrote "The video is biased"
Wow! I guess that says it all. How can a video be biased ???
Lucas Neill used his hand to trip Fabio Grosso. The video shows that very clearly.
As for what Fabio Grosso said, let them make the soundtrack public.
Funny that you believe hearsay rather than something that you can see for yourself.
If this interview did take place (and I doubt it) how much did they pay Fabio Grosso?
arang0314 9 months ago
@seandb95 You wrote " I saw him slide in and i maybe accentuated it a little"
That is the fantasy. Now the facts.
FG kicked the ball around LN and then TURNED toward the ball. It is in this new direction that he fell.
Why? Because LN turned 90 degrees to get in his way. LN rotated and got between FG and the ball.
LN stuck his elbow out to block FG's passage and then used his hand to finish him off.
This is miles from - I saw him slide and I accentuated a little.
arang0314 9 months ago
@arang0314 Well that quote came "straight from the horses mouth", im pretty sure he had his right arm out to stop himself from smacking his head on the ground and used his left arm to shield himself from getting a knee to the face. If fabio grosso was really determined to go through to goal he would've jumped over lucas neil with ease, but he's a left back who doesent have the instincts or balance of a striker. Theres a reason for the video title and everyone thinks to technicaly not practicaly
seandb95 9 months ago
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@seandb95 You wrote "that quote came "straight from the horses mouth".
That is just hearsay. It remains to be proven like releasing the soundtrack for example.
You wrote "he would've jumped over lucas neil"
Not so. He kick the ball to the right and then turned toward it. This is exactly what anybody is expected to do.
Jumping over means losing control of the ball.
Really have you seen the video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing"
arang0314 9 months ago
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@seandb95 You wrote "that quote came "straight from the horses mouth".
That is just hearsay. It remains to be proven like releasing the soundtrack for example.
You wrote "he would've jumped over lucas neil"
Not so. He kick the ball to the right and then turned toward it. This is exactly what anybody is expected to do.
Jumping over means losing control of the ball.
Really have you seen the video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing"
arang0314 9 months ago
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@seandb95 You wrote "that quote came "straight from the horses mouth".
That is just hearsay. It remains to be proven like releasing the soundtrack for example.
You wrote "he would've jumped over lucas neil"
Not so. He kick the ball to the right and then turned toward it. This is exactly what anybody is expected to do.
Jumping over means losing control of the ball.
Really, have you seen the video - Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing
arang0314 9 months ago
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@seandb95 You wrote "that quote came "straight from the horses mouth".
That is just hearsay. It remains to be proven like releasing the soundtrack for example.
You wrote "he would've jumped over lucas neil"
Not so. He kick the ball to the right and then turned toward it. This is exactly what anybody is expected to do.
Jumping over means losing control of the ball.
Really have you seen the video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing"
arang0314 9 months ago
@seandb95 You wrote "he would've jumped over lucas neil"
Not so. He kick the ball to the right and then turned toward it. This is exactly what anybody is expected to do.
Jumping over means losing control of the ball.
Really have you seen the video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing"
arang0314 9 months ago
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@seandb95 seandb95 You wrote "that quote came "straight from the horses mouth".
That is just hearsay. It remains to be proven like releasing the soundtrack for example.
Also this so called interview was done over the phone according to the reports on the web.
The only subject was the penalty. The story only appeared in Australia. Created for a specific audience.
They told you what you wanted to hear but the video of the game tells a different story.
arang0314 9 months ago
I don't think it's a dive, but I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet.
MrBen51309 9 months ago
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@MrBen51309 You wrote "I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet."
I don't know why you say this. Fabio Grosso was tripped while he was running. What efforts do you want him to make?
Check this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing "
arang0314 9 months ago
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@MrBen51309 You wrote "I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet."
I don't know why you say this. Fabio Grosso was tripped while he was running. What efforts do you want him to make? Check this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing "
arang0314 9 months ago
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@MrBen51309 You wrote "I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet."
I don't know why you say this. Fabio Grosso was tripped while he was running. What efforts do you want him to make? Check this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing "
arang0314 9 months ago
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@MrBen51309 You wrote "I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet."
I don't know why you say this. Fabio Grosso was tripped while he was running. What efforts do you want him to make? Check this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing"
arang0314 9 months ago
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@MrBen51309 You wrote "I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet."
I don't know why you say this. Fabio Grosso was tripped while he was running. What efforts do you want him to make?
Check this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing "
arang0314 9 months ago
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@MrBen51309 You wrote "I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet."
I don't know why you say this. Fabio Grosso was tripped while he was running. What efforts do you want him to make?
Check this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing "
arang0314 9 months ago
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@MrBen51309 You wrote "I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet."
I can. If somebody puts his hand on your foot while you are running; you will fall. What effort can you possibly make to stay on your feet?
arang0314 9 months ago
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@MrBen51309 You wrote " I can't exactly say that Grosso made a decent effort to keep his feet."
Grosso was tripped. Lucas Neill blocked his knee with his elbow and then put his hadn on FG's foot.
What effort do you expect?
arang0314 9 months ago
why did defender lift his elbow?
you should blame him, not the italians
MrXeftilas 10 months ago
@MrXeftilas
Stop defending the italian bastards...
ArmorKingRulez 10 months ago
@ArmorKingRulez i dont defend anyone it might look ridiculous but its a penalty, he lifts his elbow and obstacles the attacker from controlling the ball, im sorry for australia but defender should react better
pause it at 0:31
MrXeftilas 10 months ago
its a reflex to defend ur fucking face wen ur on the ground nd there is a player that has studs and u dont wanna get trampled on u fucking clown. u know nothing bout the simple bio mechanics of the human body. clearly ur italian and i hit a nerve wen i wrote my comment so suck it up. trust me its the last time they will win a world cup in a very long time. oh did u happen to watch the last world cup? they couldnt even contend to defend their title. that shows how good they really are.case closed
ssbuhan 10 months ago
@ssbuhan Yes, it is a reflex but that is not what is happening here. Look at the following video.
"Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing "
arang0314 10 months ago
the point is italy dived their way to a world cup win and the class of soccer has been decreased to a point where i rather watch 2 monkeys pick ticks off each others back. italy has killed soccer. and i say to italy get fuked
ssbuhan 10 months ago
@ssbuhan You have a problem with facts don't you ?
Fact no 1: Lucas Neill used his hand to trip Fabio Grosso.
Fact no 2: Italy conceded only 2 goals in the whole tournament and you can't do that by diving can you?
arang0314 10 months ago
@arang0314 its a natural reflex to put your arm out at a retard running straight at you rather than going around
KePz13 10 months ago
@KePz13 you wrote "its a natural reflex to put your arm out at a retard running straight at you rather than going around "
If you take the time to look at the video closely you will see that Fabio Grosso kicked the ball around Lucas Neill and then turned toward the ball. It is in this direction (toward the ball) that FG fell. Lucas Neill turned 90 degrees to get in FG's way. That is definitely NOT a natural reflex. It is deliberate interference
arang0314 10 months ago
fuckin italian cheaters
maxsmartmusic 10 months ago 6
@maxsmartmusic
look at how the aussie moves his right elbow... clear penalty
numero51ify 6 months ago
@maxsmartmusic you fucking cunt how was that a dive, lucas fucker grabbed his foot you dickhead aussie cunt. You are just mad because Australia will never win a world cup they are totally fucking shit.
nitebladerulz 6 months ago
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search Youtube for a video called
"Lucas Neill vs Fabio Grosso - Was There Contact?"
Look at the following time frames (in seconds)
(51-55 secs) stop at 55 which shows LN sticking his elbow out to block FG.
(19 sec) shows the same from another angle - FG both his feet in the air and LN's elbow sticking out.
(22 sec) show FG's left foot which falls back to the ground after hitting LN's elbow.
(26-27) LN's hand on FG's foot finishing the job
Tizzagask 11 months ago
Pfui Teufel!
SVH1931 11 months ago
lol Italian cheeeeaters
chopinandliszt 11 months ago
he was already on the ground so how could there b a foul? Grosso simply fell over him, its no dive, its no penalty, its just a play on
TASSOS502 11 months ago
@TASSOS502 Lucas Neill used his elbow to block passage then he used his hand to trip FG.
For a full picture see this video "Lucas Neill and Fabio Grosso seeing is believing"
arang0314 11 months ago
@arang0314 really? thats still so pathetic...should not have been a penalty either way. his elbow would not have brought enough force to really take down Grosso
TASSOS502 11 months ago
@TASSOS502 I do not suppose that you have watch the video I pointed you to. When you are running and suddenly an elbow is put in your way at knee level, you will go down. Also Lucas Neill used his hand to make sure FG would go down. Also if you watch the video you will see that Lucas Neill rotated nearly 90 degrees to get between FG and the ball.
arang0314 11 months ago
@arang0314 no i saw the video and i saw how in depth u went into the "trip". but that does not justify how easily grosso fell over neill. these players go through knocks and bumps all the time and if they need to stay on their feet they will, if they find an advantage in going down and claim a foul they will. The same goes for the defender. he saw a potential threat so he went down and tried to block grosso's path, but i seriously doubt his elbow forced grosso to the ground.
TASSOS502 11 months ago
@TASSOS502 wrote "but i seriously doubt his elbow forced grosso to the ground. "
What about the hand on the foot ?
Surprising how you want to see intent in Fabio Grosso yet you ignore blantant intent to interfere on Lucas Neill's part. Fabio Grosso had a unique opportunity to score the winning goal he would not have giving that up in the hope of getting a penalty. The first thing he did after the fall was to get up on his knees and hammer the ground with his fists. Very fustrated he was.
arang0314 11 months ago
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@TASSOS502 you wrote "he saw a potential threat so he went down and tried to block grosso's path"
Trying to block someone's passage is a penalty even if the opponent stays on his feet. Unless of course you are also playing the ball. Lucas Neill could no longer play the ball so his attemts at blocking the path are strictly illegal and a penalty. The referee was only a few feet away and saw the whole thing.
arang0314 11 months ago
Your all dickheads, its not a dive.. That defender is the fucking idiot for sliding in like that.. There was nowhere else to go..
GCasti8X4 11 months ago
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neil drops his shoulder into grosso, its a penalty
plrt 1 year ago
neil drops his shoulder, its a penalty
plrt 1 year ago
Look at that!! Fucking catenazzio inventors and fuck the aussies for not getting into the field and proclaiming it people's domain!!
klasomentas 1 year ago
Fucking little divers aii he dives looks up at the ref n fakes a injury fucking pathetic
hotdog2409 1 year ago
@hotdog2409 Your timing is all off. Fabio Grosso was tripped. As soon as he hit the ground the ref called it a penalty. Fabio Grosso then get up on his knees and hammered the ground with his fists. This can hardly be called faking an injury to get a penalty.
arang0314 1 year ago
you guys are stupid if you watch it in slow mo it was so stop crying that u guys lost. take it fare and square pussys
eurorey 1 year ago
any real soccer player knows it was a penalty.. its called obstruction people you cant do that in this sport.
MakaveliWillReturn 1 year ago
@MakaveliWillReturn I didn't know obeying the laws of gravity was obstruction,and falling over to which a retarded italian cant seem to keep his balance when running over.
ActualyNo 1 year ago
@ActualyNo he choose to slide, all grosso had to do is fall over him. Why would you try to evade a tackle at the 93' that can be a penalty for the win. Your either from Australian or from a place that didnt even participate in the world cup event i bet. If the goalie would of stopped it nobody would be crying today?
MakaveliWillReturn 1 year ago
@ActualyNo Every team has something to argue about after the cup is done except the winner, so suck it up and stop complaining, these guys played for their countries losers or not they made them proud. thats how much you appreciate the sport. 2010 Spain dove the whole world cup winning 2 reds and one in the final. Nobody complained about that. If you don't know the game don't speak of it.
MakaveliWillReturn 1 year ago
@ActualyNo The reason Fabio Grosso could not keep his balance, as you say, is that he was tripped. First Lucas Neill sticks his elbow out just as FG was passing by and hits his knee. Then Lucas Neill reaches far behind his back with his hand and finds FG's foot.
arang0314 1 year ago
Dude just look at 0:09 to 0:11. It wasnt a penalty. It wasnt a dive but he accidentaly fell over. Theres no fuckin penalty in it. As much as I was pissed of with the italians Im over this.
REWTASW 1 year ago 14
@REWTASW My friend, you are correct. It was not a PK. Italian players were as surprised as australians. But on the other hand, you can't say that Italy did not desearve to win the WC. They played better than Germany and France. By the way, at the final game, there was no PK to France eather and Italy still won. Sorry for my english, Im italian. Greetings.
luigibattista10 10 months ago
@luigibattista10 Yeah especially after 2002 and all those bad calls against italy. They deserved 2006's world cup.
REWTASW 10 months ago
@REWTASW But there was contact... player before the ball = Penalty.
Cationification 9 months ago
@Cationification He touched the ball first...
viet739 7 months ago
@viet739 no he didn't :) look at it more carefully :)
Cationification 7 months ago
@Cationification contact ≠ a foul. EVER WONDERED WHY THEY CALL IT A "CONTACT" SPORT? FUCK YOU ITALIAN BITCH! I am not Australians but I will always hate Italy for the catastrophic performances and dives that propelled them to the final in 06. FUCK ITALTY! UNWORTHY BASTARDS! KARMA KICKED YOUR ASS IN SOUTH AFRICA! TWICE!
hardrockerofsoccer 7 months ago
@REWTASW you are a fucking idiot just like the rest of australia supporters niel took grossos leg (contract with player none whatsoever with the ball) cleary penalty every one that i have spoken to who knows what the are talking about says it was a penalty even my german friend says it is and we knocked them out in the final 4
damod15 7 months ago
@damod15 Go fuck yourself loser. I already said Im over this Dumb fuck. CANT YOU FUCKING READ IDIOT. You must be the dumbest person on Youtube.
REWTASW 7 months ago
totally legit
FigarollaAbusiva 1 year ago
yeah how was the 2010 world cup italy?
kizzmi26 1 year ago
I laugh at all those who think this was a dive. at the worst it should have been a no call but he dove way too early and got his upperbody right at the players knees. If he didn't do that weird move that got him off balance he would have bowl over and flipper over the Aussie.
LAOJoe09 1 year ago
@LAOJoe09 What weird move are you talking about ?
arang0314 1 year ago
@arang0314
The awkward motion he made to try and avoid the player on the ground so as to not trip over him.... he should have just done that and then noone would be even arguing since it would have been an obvious penalty.
Also if you look at other angles you will see that the Australian guy on the ground actually trips him with his hand on the foot or something (don't remember exactly where)
LAOJoe09 1 year ago
@LAOJoe09 Actually that weird motion that you are talking about is FG's knee hitting LN's elbow. LN sticks out his elbow to block FG's passage. FG is then off-balance.
arang0314 1 year ago
@arang0314
well I believe he also put his hand on his foot. Either way it is a penalty
LAOJoe09 1 year ago
@arang0314
either way it shows that it was legitimate PK
LAOJoe09 11 months ago
@LAOJoe09 You wrote "The awkward motion he made to try and avoid the player on the ground so as to not trip over him"
The awkward motion that you talk about was caused by the fact that Lucas Neill stuck his elbow in the way and Fabio Grosso's knee hit it. This contact caused FG's foot to fall back to the ground. You see FG was running with both feet in the air when his knee hit LN's elbow. That explain the awkward motion. Lucas Neill then finished him off with his hand on FG's foot
arang0314 11 months ago
Italy never deserved to win if all they're gonna do is act their to a penalty, I would say they deserve to win if they played with a bit of dignity but this is below real men, mate u do that in rugby league no one is goin to show you mercy, it's in the past now so fuk it....btw when u guys do play fair u can't even pull a win against NZ how shameful
puns69 1 year ago
@puns69 there is nothing undignified or unmanly about being tripped. Fabio Grosso was deliberately tripped by Lucas Neill. Not accidentally tripped but deliberately tripped.
arang0314 1 year ago
the sad thing is that these kind of stupid actions leave to nothing more than hate.
In any other ball go on a fair way basketball basebal tennis name it .
This is sick no matter who does it or from what country.
Player,s getting paid 4 or 5 mil euro a year for diving bad behaviour.
All though most people in these world suffer have no money and the most stupid players getting so much money in this world wide economic crisis.
vivahollandia777 1 year ago
This is why Americans don't take to FUTBOL
LordPaynus 1 year ago
Every person in Professional Football dives so get ova it and it wasnt a dive
9994911 1 year ago
not a dive >.< clearly made heavy contact a simple penalty fair as get over it faggots!!! Italy ends up winning the world cup best thing that ever happened
9994911 1 year ago
u can see its a fukin dive fuckin cheats thats suck balls and dive farout that ref was a gay dog
jameskocovski 1 year ago
@1dazba u need help bro sorry to say but u have problems get ova urself mate just think like this ok australia did a silly mistake by fouling in the box coz dats the fifa rules n we did the wrong thing hopefully well do better next time :) its only a game at the end of the day :) don't blame italy if they are just too god that we beat everyone that year and all the other 3 years :P so bad luck
paulb9522 1 year ago
FUKING ITALTIANS
davo1extreme 1 year ago
Guys this was 4 years ago now. I remember how I felt after that game and I still have my opinions on whether or not it was a penalty. But honestly is there any point arguing about it anymore? Grosso didn't cheat, nor did Neill. It is was up to the Ref who may have harshly awarded a penalty, but don't blame players for the referees error.
MVFC2009 1 year ago
@MVFC2009 The video of the games shows that the referee was 100% CORRECT.
arang0314 1 year ago
all i can say is if u think italy cheat then i dont how u watch soccer bcoz ive seen so many teams do the worst fake fouls n u guys complain about us cheating thats disscusting its not cheating bcoz in the end of the day its the reffs decission to call the foul not italies ok so fuk off if u can't handle losing then don't watch soccer plus in 2010 swiss vsed brazil n kaka elbowed one of the players in the chest when the reff wasn't looking n the swiss guy fell n held his face now wtf doucalldat?
paulb9522 1 year ago
who ever thinks italy cheated are stupid it was a fould n the fifa rules are simply do not foul i nthe box or it is a penalty plain n simple n the lucas neil too k the risk n fukd up which means its a fukn foul so go fuck yourselves if u hate italy but don't complain coz u gguys gave away penalty n can't handle the fact that u guys lost your problem its only a game at the end of the day no need to hate ppl just coz your country didn't win n even if theaussies went through they won't get far
paulb9522 1 year ago
@paulb9522 true
9994911 1 year ago
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paulb9522 1 year ago
lol every1 hating on italy is hilarious. nobody views their own team making stupid things i.e diving, faking injuries. its soccer every1 does it, so every1 suck it up and stop being a bunch of fuckin ignorant princesses
pipito89 1 year ago
TOTTTTIIIII FUCKING AUSSIE CUNTS
fknazn 1 year ago
@fknazn ya he fucks ur mother in her ass everyday
herzali 1 year ago
@fknazn the way totti carried on after scoring the penalty was very disrespectful, AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE...
bottleguru1 1 year ago
Watch -----Italian training------ video on you tube and you will see why it's fake penalty...
Itallians do it all the time...
Fifa is faggot like italians that why it's allowed for them...
YugoZex 1 year ago
@YugoZex I'm italian and i'm not faggot dickhead -.-
ALIENS95 1 year ago
@ALIENS95 that's why I call you, because you are itallian. look you national team and that moron inzaghi you are all like pussies. you all fake fouls it's natural for you. I didn't think that you are realy faggot it's impression for people who are cowards and do everything like faggots... dirty way
YugoZex 1 year ago
@YugoZex If some national team players are stupid does not mean that all Italians are so
ALIENS95 1 year ago
Lucas Neill used his elbow to get into Fabio Grosso's way. (Blocked his knee).
Then LN moved his hand far behind his back and reached for FG's foot.
It is called interference and tripping, ie a penalty!
arang0314 1 year ago
@arang0314 He did that because it is instinct when you have someone running straight at you, he wasn't going to let the Italian bastard just kick him in his side.
It was a penalty though, only cause Grosso is a fucking pussy and made no effort to stay on his feet, he still could of easily got a shot away if he stayed on his feet. Why was he on the ground for a minute after it happened? ask yourself that.
HaleMate93 1 year ago
@HaleMate93 wrote "He did that because it is instinct when you have someone running straight at you..."
Fabio Grosso was not running straight at LN. LN threw himself in front of him. FG changed direction after kicking the ball around LN. There would have been no contact between the two. So LN stuck his elbow out to make sure there was contact.
arang0314 1 year ago
alright. when serbia or australia win a world cup then they can talk shit about italy.
2nd of all. he obstructed GROSSO. learn the rules. ou can just lie on the ground in the middle of play. if neil was a decent defender and not a low skilled Aussie he wouldnt of ever missed the tackle to begin with
Lazio91 1 year ago
@Lazio91 World Cup Group stages: Australia-4 points. Serbia-3 points. Italy-2 points.
aaaattttpppp 1 year ago
I am not blind. I see how you win. like cowards. always...
YugoZex 1 year ago
This is a joke. It is the equivilant of having an Australian player lying injured on the ground in the box and an italian dribbling the ball up next to him the with great uncoordination running into said injured player, tripping and claiming there was contact.
singingwaterboy 1 year ago
fool penalty?? fool penalty??
are you blind as well as looser??
don't australians know football's rules??
the contact is in 0:31. you can't stretch yourself out causing opponent's fall and then deny the penalty!!
ilCanaledeiMondiali 1 year ago
Fucking Italy. your all a bunch of cheats and should be banned from world cups
1dazba 1 year ago 32
@1dazba go suck on a kiwi asshole
italianlupo 1 year ago
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@italianlupo why don't you go eat some spaghetti you fucking asshole. no one like italians
1dazba 1 year ago
@1dazba shut the fuck up and just watch and learn from the football masters ...
herzali 1 year ago
@herzali oh yea and how well did the "football masters" do in the last world cup???
1dazba 1 year ago
@1dazba i know they did bad because of the coach and most of the talented players in 2006 got old or retired ,,, and that was expected
in football there are 3 giants and masters.... brazil italy and germany ... period
herzali 1 year ago
@1dazba
please tell me how we cheat? lol
TheUndergroundAOTP 1 year ago
@TheUndergroundAOTP isn't a little obvious? he knocks the ball away and purposely runs into the player and falls over even though he doesn't even touch the australian player. its all a dive
1dazba 1 year ago
@1dazba
every team dives
TheUndergroundAOTP 1 year ago
@TheUndergroundAOTP i know but not as much as italy
1dazba 1 year ago
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arang0314 1 year ago
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@1dazba @1dazba It is Lucas Neill who "touches" Fabio Grosso. The first contact occurs when FG tries to run by LN. LN lifts his elbow and stick it out into FG's way making contact with his knee. FG's foot then falls back to ground. FG is off balance. LN then moves his hand behind his back and finds FG's foot. He tripped him! An obvious penalty. Look at the slow motion video on youtube called "Lucas Neill vs Fabio Grosso - Was There Contact? "
arang0314 1 year ago
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@1dazba @1dazba It is Lucas Neill who "touches" Fabio Grosso. The first contact occurs when FG tries to run by LN. LN lifts his elbow and stick it out into FG's way making contact with his knee. FG's foot then falls back to ground. FG is then off balance. LN then moves his hand behind his back and finds FG's foot. He tripped him! An obvious penalty. Look at the slow motion video on youtube called "Lucas Neill vs Fabio Grosso - Was There Contact? "
arang0314 1 year ago
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@1dazba It is Lucas Neill who "touches" Fabio Grosso. The first contact occurs when FG tries to run by LN. LN lifts his elbow and stick it out into FG's way making contact with his knee. FG's foot then falls back to ground.
FG is then off balance. LN then moves his hand behind his back and finds FG's foot. He tripped him! An obvious penalty. Look at the slow motion video on youtube called "Lucas Neill vs Fabio Grosso - Was There Contact? "
arang0314 1 year ago
@1dazba You want to see "obvious" then search Youtube for a video called
"Lucas Neill vs Fabio Grosso - Was There Contact?"
Look at the following time frames (in seconds)
(51-55 secs) stop at 55 which shows LN sticking his elbow out to block FG.
(19 sec) shows the same from another angle - FG both his feen in the air and LN's elbow stiking out.
(22 sec) show FG's left foot which came back to the ground after hitting LN's elbow.
(26-27 sec) LN's hand on FG's foot finishing the job
arang0314 1 year ago
@arang0314 i would be ashamed to have such an unsportsmanlike like team representing my country where the only way to win is cheating. im not saying only italy do it but they are known for diving so you can hardly believe that what happened on the video there is actually fair because of italys bad reputation alright.
1dazba 1 year ago
@1dazba Reputations cannot change tripping into diving.
Facts are facts. The video gives the facts. The video shows that Lucas Neill deliberately tripped Fabio Grosso. If LN had kept his elbow and hand to himself I would have glady agreed with you. So now what is your logic. Since Italy has a reputation for diving then Lucas Neill did not use his elbow to block FG and his hand to trip him even though the video clearly shows that he did.
arang0314 1 year ago
@arang0314 this video doesn't mean anything to me but i was only speaking in general that italy do tend to cheat (in particular DE ROSSI!) and i don't believe that is fair ok. i don't care if this is a actually a foul i was just saying that they do cheat
1dazba 1 year ago
@1dazba I will not argue over opinions. Did Italy cheat more than other teams? Frankly, I do not know. I tend to believe that there is plenty of cheating to go around. This thread, however, is about one event in 2006. Some people claim that Fabio Grosso cheated. The video shows that it was Lucas Neill who cheated. You cannot rely on what everybody says you need to check ever case on its own merit.
arang0314 1 year ago
@1dazba he made contact its a penalty
9994911 1 year ago
@1dazba Fuck off it was Lucas Neil the Dumb fuck why would you attempt to slide tackle an Italian in the box!
Clear Penalty
FifaSonter 1 year ago
@1dazba Agree with that Italians cheat but not all of them the biggest cheat is Marcello Lippi though cos (2006) he got Materazzi to say something to Zidane he said this to Materazzi before the game if they were struggling in the game say about something that happened in Turin when Zidane was at Juventus.
xDm5x9tZpp 11 months ago
@1dazba HAHAHAHAHHA when you learn about the fine sport of FOOTBALL maybe u willl notice that neil missed contact with the ball and made contact with grosso now whether or not grosso fell over its still a foul, and banned from world cups? Italia have won more world cups then Australia has been in. And also Italia had a red card in this match from about the 50th minute-mark and Australia still couldnt win so go get a fucken VB and watch some aussie rules u dick
ty4mem 11 months ago
@ty4mem nice insults you retard to be im not even australian so why don't you go eat your fuckin spaghetti faggot and stop trying to act all big over the internet you pussy
1dazba 11 months ago