Meg Hitchock Talks about OBSESSION The Book of Revelation From the Koran at FAMOUS ACCOUNTANTS

[calvena1]

how does one define this as art? i can easily see it being done in alongside fluxus... long ago...

i can see this work as cathartic, expressive, too personal? so personal and quite straightforward that it is not really 'contemporary' art, but definitely art of some sort...

are people engaged because of the labor involved or 'the message/s'

there is nothing really new she is saying for an audience presently that hasn't been done before in the past

[calvena1]

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[ALTHEGREAT101]

I know a lot about religion and most artists know nothing about it. I do not see art having a place in religion and vice versa. So I do not consider this art. I also do not consider sex, politics, profanity or sensationalism to be art no matter how the artist approaches them.

That being said, I find this piece to be good politics.

[blacksummersound]

@ALTHEGREAT101

that is ironic to say. the practice of crafts, art and the like all spawned from religion, not to say that art originated from that. the talismans of the old pagan culture were first created by the shamans. Fast forward to the classical and renaissance age, religious and political sects were the biggest commissioners of art, be it to invoke or provoke from it.

[Iconoclaster1]

It is exactly because many things can evoke awe that "religion" is notoriously difficult to define. This again goes to how we define religion. I fear you are thinking about religion only in the narrow sense as organized and institutional religion. That is one sense of religion but it certainly isn't exhaustive. Ruldolf Otto, for example, described the original religious impulse as one of magisterium tremendum. (Cont. below ...)

[Iconoclaster1]

@Iconoclaster1

So, as such, art didn't exist before religion because the same consciousness that scrawled on the cave wall stood in awe of the winds, lightening, sun and stars. In fact, it probably inspired him in his art. I agree that art is autonomous - at least in the etymology of the word meaning "self-governed." Art is indeed a law unto itself, but this, as a quality, isn't mutually exclusive to its reflection of the religious.

[destroyer820]

I have a question...is she cutting out words from the book of Kroan to leave the message of the Christian Book of Revelations within the book (and pasting the cut outs on the wall; or is she cutting out the words to the Christian Book of Revelations and pasting those words on the wall?

[destroyer820]

She needs to be careful these days...radical Islamists would not want to see her cutting up the Koran...they're silly that way...

[claureic]

I think art has nth to do with religion. "Art is not a god, but an absolute". It is the quest for absolute that one cannot find in daily life, the need to feel oneself essential, but it has no transcendental and superhuman value.

[spawnofdawnacle]

One creative moment followed by mind-numbing months of tedium. I'm not impressed. The mind-numbing ritual, of course, does remind me of religion. Blinking out a memoir isn't so impressive if the fingers function perfectly. But yes, I do believe that both religions have been elevated here.

[MountainQueen]

that's amazing!

[Iconoclaster1]

This is a phenomenal piece of art. True too, that art is the highest form of religion!

[jameskalmroughcut]

@Iconoclaster1 I would beg to differ with your categorization that " art is the highest form of religion". Why would I degrade art with the comparison? Art is it's own thing, religion is it's own thing.

[Iconoclaster1]

@jameskalmroughcut

This depends on how one defines "religion." And, given that religion is a notoriously difficult "thing" to define, I don't equate religion, in toto, as the organized manifestation of the practice of religion. For example, as the church. I stipulate my understanding of religion, at least here, as witnessing the awe of existence and consciousness in the midst of a universe. Art, at least great art, evokes the same sense of awe.

[jameskalmroughcut]

@Iconoclaster I'd imagine many things could evoke awe, but art exists in a state of autonomy. Because it existed before religion, or politics, or economics, it is subservient to none of these. Art is art, everything else is everything else.

[NrrN00]

@Iconoclaster1 One could say by your definition that "words are "art, allowing the definition of such to "exist. That then "speaking in words" then is "religious; An activity of substance, compounding-deception and connectivity, Allowing one to make assertions as assertions follow in this predication of this"function. "Art is a word, is it not a activity centralized in a "religious "Dialect?

[NrrN00]

@NrrN00 What this woman seems to have undergone is a convergence of "ideas as she recites, that in fact it may-be a possibilty that one rekies upon the methodology of substance to value and conversely.

[NrrN00]

@NrrN00 What this woman seems to have undergone is a convergence of "ideas as she recites, that in fact it may-be a possibility that one relies upon the methodology of substance to value and conversely.