Bonobos: Walking upright

[nathanmarto]

Just had the thought that being upright would lead to more respect, due to looking larger, stronger, more powerful. Selection of this trait, along with the simple advantage in certain environments, could have easily pressured the upright species into existence??

[pillowbugg]

@nathanmarto actually, a study concurred that gathering food/subsistence using and then carrying with hands proved to be what drove selection for upright bi-pedel locomotion.

[pillowbugg]

@nathanmarto along with the environment begin turning into a savannah, so bi-pedel helped with predator vision.

[ViridisAmbrosia]

they can't go extinct. they just can't. how can we stop this?

[hobblehonker]

bonobo bow hunting

[Rarae192]

Where does the magical additional information come from to make a chimp into a human? The genome is the blueprint/recipe to make the organism & there's 1% difference between human & chimp? So, theoretically:

Chimp:..ATGGTCCTAG

Human: ATGGTCCGAG

So, to turn the chimp into the human, mutate the third T into a G. That's the basic idea, how's that hard to understand? The information is the inherent chemical properties of the molecules that compose the organism, and any material, really.

[Tobius11]

the next animal to evolve into man........they are already almost there

[rockstotheoff]

@Tobius11 You might be a bit confused. Bonobos are just as evolved as we are. They will not be evolving into man; that's not how evolution works.

[googley3]

@Tobius11

chimps arent going to evolve into humans...and we didnt evolve from them. we both evolved from a now-extinct common ancestor. at this point, we're both well-adapted to our niches, and unless there's some sort of significant environmental pressure, chimps probably wont change that much. and if they did, there's no reason to assume they'd become more like us.

[googley3]

@Tobius11

lol i mean bonobos

[psychosavant]

The hypothesis of a geocentric universe and a flat earth are neither faith nor science, but rather philosophy. There are important distinctions here which I will explain in a followup post, but we have to acknowledge that there has to be a little bit of philosophy involved for science to work.

[Killman1134]

@avedic EXACTLY. How can someone see this creature and think that we didn't come from the ancestor? They are morons.

[lovkpop]

alpha female YEAH! :D

[daev196]

The Jews, the Muslims and the Christians, They've all got it wrong. The people of the world only divide into two kinds, One sort with brains who hold no religion, The other with religion and no brain.

- Abu-al-Ala al-Marri, 10th century Syrian poet

[JackSimmers]

I meant pan

[JackSimmers]

You lot do realize that no matter how much like us they are, they are not us. We are hominids while they belong to pato. We have had two completly evolutionary lines. They will never be 'human'

[avedic]

how anyone can deny evolution is beyond me. it's so obviously true.

[DeterminationForever]

@avedic Ignorant people who fear reality...

[Aspanaut]

When it misconceives something

[Aspanaut]

Religion is what your brain does.

[animals0feel1pain2]

planet of the apes begins

[DeterminationForever]

@animals0feel1pain2 Well basicly this is already planet of the apes, since we are apes :D

[samsamsam1369]

bonobos are in the same Genus group as Chimps ( genus :pan ) and then tride hominini which we belong 2 as well which is where we then seperate into genus homo and pan , Humans: Homo Sapiens , chimps : Pan troglodytes, Bonobos: Pan paniscus. we are the only living spieces that still bare the Homo name , im proud to be related to these cute bonobos <3

[Aspanaut]

And taking into consideration the expotential rate of technological advance and/or evolution,this will probably occur before the end of this century.

[Aspanaut]

Basically chimpanzees are a relict population of our african ancestors 5 million years ago.Yes chimpanzees are still evolving infact bonobos are the result of this.Bonobos evolved about 1 million years ago when we where all archaic hominids.Maybe this happened because a niche has been left open.Perhaps these bonobos descendants will have evolved to become their own civlization 4 million or so years from know,long after sapiens has left earth without a trace

;(Thanks to Advanced Nanotechnology)

[HitfulVids]

We should train some bonobos in language and technology, then release them to the wild. Within a few generations, the knowledge will spread and intelligence will start pressuring their evolution. Within a few thousand (or even hundred?) generations, a new advanced species will emerge. By then we'll have murdered all of our own kind in wars, so the new "boman" species can rule the earth and debate evolution while a few nutcases will maintain that their ancestors were guided by aliens or gods.

[Mammasaymammasaw]

@HitfulVids Wow...that.....was awesome.

[SirianKings]

Neanderthals didn't "die out." They are here as your global ruling elite. We, the Cro-magnons have 1 - 5% Neanderthal DNA, but the so-called elites have more, a lot more, hence why all the obsession with keeping their bloodlines pure.

[CamillaCalamity]

@SirianKings Elites? What on earth are you talking about? Rich aristocrats have the same genes that working class people have.

[Reminisce86]

@CamillaCalamity He's referring to the interbreeding that the elites prefer, rather than to mix their genes with the rest of the populace. I am not too sure if it is in fact, Neandertal DNA that they wish to keep in between themselves. I do; however, believe that H. neandertalensis and H. sapiens may have interbred with one another. They lived amongst each other at the same time, so why rule that out? Ozzy Osbourne has remnants of Neandertal DNA as it is, so why don't the rest of us? >;)~

[FalloutTheMaster]

I could imagine creationists advocating the destruction of these animals for some reason or another, it's like a giant slap in the face

[bio2020]

@FalloutTheMaster If this were 500 years ago, and the idea that we were related to these creatures surfaced and gained popularity, the Catholic Church would literally have sent missions to Africa to wipe these bonobo's out of existence.

Looking back at human history, it is tremendously hurtful to see all the books, and knowledge, and people, that have been lost forever due to this.

[Reminisce86]

This is impressive. I hope Bonobos do not continue on the path of extinction. They truly are our closest relatives on this planet. Amazing stuff. >;)~

[graidstin]

Wow, give it a few million years these things might just be on the same tier as us, as far as intilligence. Imagine, if another species came up with a real language, that would mean we could communicat with them, and that would be amazing.

[SubtleChaotic]

@graidstin

Well it's possible that already has happened. Up until as recently as 30,000 years ago we (modern humans) co-existed with another human species - the Neanderthals. Although I doubt we had language back then, and our tools were certainly crude, we were - for the time - on the same tier as each other. (there were very possibly more than this one other human species). Actually Neanderthals had a 10% larger brain than ours - even our modern brain size I believe!

[graidstin]

@SubtleChaotic Isn't it believed that we (modern humans) killed off the neanderthals? Though once I think I saw a program about how some believe we acctually mated with them (that is eanderthals).

[SubtleChaotic]

@graidstin

That's certainly possible and pretty likely, but we don't *know* that. .. They died pretty soon after we came into contact with them though.. "Germ warfare", maybe? But yeh, probably we just killed 'em.

Mating is a speculation. No reason we couldn't have been fucking each other. Whether we produced viable offspring - meaning that we probably contain "Neanderthal" DNA - we don't know. Possible though.

We look pretty different though. Would you fuck a Neanderthal?

[NorthWeezy2010]

humans tend to see themselves in a higher light than other species. just because we can create machines such as laptops and tv's. the thing is, we were taught about science and that sort of thing, by who? i dont know yet but imo i think we were taught by ET's of some kind. apes can do the stuff we can mentally, they just need to be taught it. scientists should stop poking these animals to see if they are like us, and teach it to make something amazing like a computer. then we will know...

[graidstin]

@NorthWeezy2010 Then how did those ET's learn those technologies, and if it was from other ET's than how did they learn that technology. Why do you think humans aren't capable of developing advanced technologies?

[SpazzyMcGee1337]

They look like they are walking heel first. I read as a kid that only humans and polar bears walk heel first.

[animals0feel1pain2]

Paid actors. All of them.

[limiteddan]

I love how they are so much like us :D

[FrazzleAndTheWolf]

That's strangely amusing lol.

[MXZCharlie]

its such a shame how endangered these apes are.

[snl330]

@SickAlchemist No evidence supporting evolution? Please, educate yourself before you make such an inane claim.

It appears that you are only defending creationism by bashing evolution. Even if evolution weren't true, that does not mean God created the world. That's like saying, "if B + B doesn't equal C, it must equal D." Failed logic, yet again.

And tehinfidel is right; you don't need to "believe" in something that is a fact/ or that there is no evidence for its existence. Haha!

[SickAlchemist]

so let me get this straight..Humans came from chimps or something very similar to it...Im sorry but i rather believe that Jesus created the word..and all things in it..theres way more evidence supporting the word of God than evolution..and im not just saying that its very true..and if you guys never knew darwin didnt fully believe in evolution.he also believed in God.or a higher beling that made all things as he would put it.

[tehinfidel]

@SickAlchemist Reality doesn't care what you'd "rather believe."

[SickAlchemist]

@tehinfidel true and sad because your the type of person that when supernatural events start happening frequently you wont believe it..and its sad because even if theres a 1 percent chance that heaven and hell exist you would rather believe that we came from monkeys and when you die then thats it..ignorance will get you nowhere you have to open your mind a little more..

[tehinfidel]

@SickAlchemist Show me evidence of supernatural events, and I will believe them. (hint: they become natural at that point.) Your weak threat of a 1% chance of hell doesn't fly; if e.g. it's the Islamic hell, and Al-lah is pissed that you didn't believe in him, you still lose.

As I pointed out before, I don't "rather believe" that we evolved from a common ancestor, I accept the evidence. Reality doesn't care what anyone believes. Don't buy it? Stop believing in gravity, and jump off a building.

[SickAlchemist]

@tehinfidel.are you serious?? a monkey walking upright is enough evidence for you to believe?/ do you know theres bin a few animals that did that..im sorry but its real stupid..that why this video has so little views....theres no evidence supporting evolution.you should really do your research before you state or believe something.

[tehinfidel]

@SickAlchemist Completely putting aside comparative anatomy, paleontology, observed natural selection, observed speciation, and biogeography, DNA evidence alone is sufficient.

There is no excuse to be so ignorant in 2011. Read a book, mate. (No, not that one.)

[triniboi91]

@tehinfidel soo ummm how did we come from that to "evolving" into humans? and why didnt all of them "evolve" into humans what they decided to say and be less efficient than us lol is soo stupid to believe that and believe a random explosion made a world but not only a world living things in the world that mysteriously have a mind of its own to evovle into more efficient things while the other things cant ummm yea sounds like ur the ignorant smh a shame u will be condemned if u dont wake up

[tehinfidel]

@triniboi91 Are you identical to your parents? Are you stronger or possibly weaker than your siblings? We live in relatively civilized times now, but it wasn't always so, and it's definitely not always so in the animal kingdom.

The stronger/faster/more generally well-adapted in a generation will survive better on balance than the weaker. This, and small changes from generation to generation are all it takes.

Like I told the other guy, there's no excuse to be ignorant in 2011. Read a book.

[triniboi91]

@tehinfidel blahahaha well thanks for clearing that up hahaha...im not gonna go back and forth in arguement but if u read and do more research in science theres more hard evidence supporting events in the bible than what your talking of and u still havent explained the world just appearing and living things just appearing with them hahahahahaha like what smh and ur explanation still didnt really at all actually justify why some are still bonobos or monkeys and we evolved so far doesnt make sense

[tehinfidel]

@triniboi91 I listed the areas where evidence is overwhelming 2 posts above; you can do research in the areas listed, starting with Wikipedia, and continuing on through the books "Your Inner Fish", "Why Evolution is True", and "The Greatest Show on Earth", and following through to their bibliographies and 152 years of scientific papers and physical evidence you can actually see and touch.

Now, please direct me to your "evidence".

I swear, this is like Plato's Cave Allegory.

[shariotoflove]

@tehinfidel no DNA evidence whatsoever, since evolution cannot explain where the additional information came for a chimp to become a human. observed is also another term for assertion. please read a book, not all the pro-evolution ones to fit your predisposition.

[tehinfidel]

@shariotoflove Yep, the fusion of chromosome 2 is a complete coincidence!

[shariotoflove]

@tehinfidel so *poof* it Just came from nowhere? very scientific....

[tehinfidel]

@shariotoflove Are you identical to your parents in every way? No.

DNA is imperfectly copied between generations (or even in the same organism; hence: aging, among other things). Some of these imperfect copies create traits that impact the survivability of the organism, and when they do it for better, the organism is more likely to generate more offspring. The end.

[shariotoflove]

@tehinfidel but we still maintain the same traits, we are still humans, with no change. This does not explain the transition between chimp to human and a change in the DNA. surely for macro-evolution to be considered scientific, it should be constantly observed which it is not. the end

[tehinfidel]

@shariotoflove "I can see how someone can walk across town, but walking across the state is impossible. Because I say so."

Telomeres merging changes the number of chromosomes, rendering organisms unable to reproduce, and thus different species. Small incremental changes like this building up are observed in ring species, such as the Larus gulls and the Ensatina salamanders.

[onlyforytb]

@shariotoflove "This does not explain the transition between chimp to human and a change in the DNA" how can chimps become human ? a better question : Why would chimps become humans?

[pillowbugg]

@onlyforytb lol...chimps never became human. Humans never 'came' from chimps.

Also, you never 'came' from your 3rd cousin either. You and your 3rd cousin SHARE a common ancester.....

Your question= "how is it that I was supposedly an infant at one time, and why did my genes change between my 3rd cousin and I"?

THE answer= humans and chimps SHARE a common ancester, who lived millions of years ago. This is a FACT!  Not an opinion, not a belief, not a wish...a FACT!

[onlyforytb]

@pillowbugg why are you telling ME that ? a moron before me said , "This does not explain the transition between chimp to human and a change in the DNA". I was asking him why chimps would become humans.pls read my comment again,

[onlyforytb]

@pillowbugg why are you telling ME that ? a moron before me said ,"this does not explan the transition between chimp to human.." I was asking him why chimps would become humans.pls read my comment again,

[onlyforytb]

@pillowbugg why are you telling ME that ?pls read my comment again. i was answering a moron .

[pillowbugg]

@shariotoflove and in order to convict someone of a crime, there must ALWAYS be an observer, especially in the case of murder. It's called evidence.

You fail...you're an idiot. The end.

[SickAlchemist]

@tehinfidel and there is proff of stuff..ill show you simple but cool one..search this is youtube Angeles cantando con Elias Arguello para Dios.......its the first link last time i looked at it it had ALOT of views but now it doesnt dont know why but whatever.and also i happen to know the guy who best friends with the guy in the vid..

[shk9664]

@SickAlchemist I feel evolution is besides the point. Religion shows you why you are here, science tells you how. Two different questions. No debate, even Pope John Paul has said evolution is pretty valid.

[SickAlchemist]

@shk9664 religion is something created to get money and do different things. what you should be is a son/daughter of God. and if you studied darwin and evolution you would see how many loop holes it has..but a wise man once said that we have to learn to live with mystery and do whats right.but I think this conversation is over.I wish you all the best

[shk9664]

@SickAlchemist uhh yeah i dont feed the trolls. :D

[BlakAttk]

@SickAlchemist jesus didn't create the world tho, god did and i think evoltuion played a part. I'm a believer that you can tie religion in with science

[SickAlchemist]

@BlakAttk I agree...but people just like to twist things around

[psychosavant]

@BlakAttk

This can't be right. Once you tie religion with science, it stops being science. They're both based on mutually exclusive philosophies: truth by way of faith, and truth by way of observation and deduction. If you think you can tie religion in with science, you either misunderstand religion, or you misunderstand science.

[BlakAttk]

@psychosavant why does it stop being science? i think people are just afraid to combine the two because they seem vastly differenet but they're really not. You can create a faith by observing what you see around you. I do, and i'm not your typical christian either. Hell, i wouldn't even call myself christian, more agnostic than anything. i belive in evolution, i think if you don't you're just ignorant but i also believe theres more to existance than we'll ever know right now.

[psychosavant]

@BlakAttk

Faith based belief and observation based belief are polar opposites. In one extreme you have faith, which is a belief supported only by assumption in spite of any evidence or lack thereof. On the other you have observation and deductive reasoning based on evidence. There is no room for faith in science, which requires a rational response to questions and leaves unanswered questions unanswered, rather than attempting to explain it regardless of unsupportive data or lack thereof.

[BlakAttk]

@psychosavant you bring up good points but look at past theories that have been thrown away cuz of lack of data. Remember when people thought the earth was flat and that it was the center of the universe? Or that wood had a chemical in it that caused fires (the name of it has slipped my mind at the moment)

[psychosavant]

@BlakAttk

Science finds evidence first, then builds an explanation based on that, then refines the explanation based on followup evidence.

Philosophy builds an explanation first, then looks for evidence to support the explanation.

Religion is based on faith, which builds an explanation first regardless of evidence, and ignores evidence.

Some philosophy has to be used in science in order to develop an explanation based on little available evidence, but it never stays philosophical for long.

[doctorjones83]

@psychosavant there is no such thing as no faith. even science requires faith. because its simple

YOU CANNON PROVE ANYTHING. THEORIES CAN NOT BE PROVEN. YOU CAN ONLY DISPROVE A THEORY.

Inductive reasoning makes a general conclusion, based off of evidence. It takes a very specific reality and applies it to a broad reality. You are left the believe (FAITH) the conclusion based on your evidence.

[doctorjones83]

@doctorjones83 deductive reasoning does prove something, because it takes general "truths" (or premises) and develops a conclusion based on those truths.

So either way my friend, you have faith. inductive reasoning requires a leap of faith in the conclusion, deductive requires faith in the evidence.

[Territomauvais]

@BlakAttk You can't really reconcile religion and science. Not if you want to be honest. You can posit that God created the world; but this adds nothing to the discussion. We know how planets arise, how Solar System's form, even how Universes come into being.

There is no need for a God in any of these. The models all work perfectly well; better in fact, if you do NOT make the assumption of a designer/God.

[BlakAttk]

@Territomauvais not exactally true. I believe that a higher being (not saying god cuz i'm not even sure what to call it) that we cant comprehend, started this all up but doesn't really interfere with anything. I've thought about how complex humans, cells, universe and existance itself really is and it can't just be coincidence. It's too complex and almost seems like it was modeled after something, how does our brain know how to process all that info? why can we only use 10%?

[psychosavant]

@BlakAttk

If complexity was any measurement of an intelligent design, then the universe is infinity less complex than it could potentially be, since the complexity of anything is only relative to what we as humans can comprehend. This isn't indicative of an intelligent designer. Furthermore, humans can use 100% of their brains. The 10% thing is a myth. Don't take my word for it. Look it up.

[Territomauvais]

@BlakAttk You just don't understand science then. Science explains how all of the elements, the stars, the planets, and all of life itself formed from simpler, less complex parts if you will. And it actually makes sense. And you can test it. And we have.

The kind of Being/God you're positing is a Deistic one. A designer. Which puts nothing into my assertion that you cannot reconcile religion and science; because Deism or belief in a higher power couldn't be labeled a religion...

[BlakAttk]

@Territomauvais you can combine religion and science, but people are afraid to. I don't see them as black and white like most people. I see grey,

[Territomauvais]

@BlakAttk Also, as psychosavant states....humans don't just use 10% of their brain. That is a long debunked, yet still popular myth. Look it up.

All you have to do is do some research and you'll find your way :).

Also with real religion, it is irreconcilable with science. Did Mohammad fly off into the clouds on a horse? Did the woman named Mary conceive supernaturally? Did Jesus make blind people see again? These ARE scientific questions. The answer, obviously, is no.

[BlakAttk]

@Territomauvais but it does bring into question how some people can predict the weather like certain savants can. and how people without eyes can draw things that artist with them couldn't do. Or the guy who can raise his body heat at will. We can't even explain that scientifically...at least not yet anyways

[Territomauvais]

@BlakAttk I don't see your point. Nobody would posit a supernatural explanation for those things...

[wirthstef]

Very interesting, because we all try to imagine a scenario, in which the upright-walking may have evolved. Besides to what is shown in your movie, there are theories, in which the walking in the low water prefers an walking-upright. This can also be observed in chimpanzees. I made a film about the phylogeny of chimp, bonobo and H. sapiens, it's attached...

[Largo64]

The narrator's voice sounds like Linda Hunt.

[1SavageDragon1]

evolution should go back to the drawing board....

[evilh0m3r]

Another point to Darwin. Take that creationists! :P

[ganados0]

@evilh0m3r they'd only be convinced if a chimp gave birth to a human, modern science though would be back to the drawing board....

[LionGoddess1]

I definitely was one of those in my last life haha

[DonJuanDeMarco2]

I wonder if she's the alpha because she is the most rigid when walking upright ?

Perhaps giving her advantages over the others. Which would help explain why our ancestors evolved into uprights.

[VC106893]

Holy shit! Look at that female bonobo!

I bet she could kick a grown mans ass!

[Tazy50]

maybe sasquatch and bigfoot are just REALLY big bonobos...

[KeirandAlex]

1:10 is when you see the walking moneys :D

[KeirandAlex]

I love how they don't just walk... They walk like gangsters :D

[FreedomResistance]

We are so similar.

[fourtywpm]

I've learned more about humans through studying animals than I have from humans.

[dubbedcrazy]

beautiful alpha-female...or maybe they were just giving her space cuz it's that time of month? (you never know lol) you go girl ! ! !

[salroja]

what happens if a male bonobo has sex with a female common chimpanzee or viceversa?

[unfad1ng]

@salroja

the same thing that happends if a donkey and a horse have sex.

They have crosscpecies child.

[getoutamyface]

Omg... my eyes nearly go cross rolling them so hard from reading some people's comments about evolution.

It took thousands of years, but we were once like these bonobos. And by we I mean the series of evolutionary groups (Australopithecus Afarensis, Homo Habilas, Homo Erectus, Neanderthal....) that all showed signs in each stage of becoming more intelligent. The spine moving from the back of the skull to the bottom, allowing more blood flow to the brain causing higher intelligence over time.

[BenThomasFoster]

@getoutamyface not thosands... 100's of thousands.

now people we think 80 years(average age for western world) are a long time, now think oh 500 years is a very long time then, then 2 thousand years is a long time, oh then 10,000 years must be very very long time ago. now we get past being able to imagine time scales imagine 50,000 years ago the first civilisations, now think 200 thousnad years ago we started to appear just think it takes longer than you can imagine for evolution to happen

[getoutamyface]

@BenThomasFoster ya ya... I left out a couple of zeros, my bad.

[skydome29]

@getoutamyface (millions) of years

[Marasma101]

Female domination :D

And it's funny how bonobos are far more peaceful than their chimp cousins. They settle disputes through sex, not violence.

[Aspanaut]

its like a glimpse into our distant past

[Zeppo3]

How can anyone watch this and discredit Evolution!

[Omnignosis]

Ah. The Intellegent Design of Evolution. Lol.

[omgitslukky07]

@Omnignosis Ah. The 'Intelligent' Design of a All Perfect God. Lol.

[zOMGLaserGunzPewPew]

That monkeys arms look just like mine.

[Killjeser]

I'd love to do like Anthony Hopkins in "Instinct" and just go ape-shit like Tarzan. 

[freethinker923]

Wow, those quad muscles at 2:00 are beefy! She could probably squat 500 lbs with those legs.

[freethinker923]

I wonder if bonobo's legs/hips are better shaped to accomodate bipedalism than chimps?

[cycodevilboy]

I have watched thousands of videos and read even more posts. And I must say, this is one video that I have seen practically zero Creationist or ID arguments. Thank Goodness.

[GohanLSSJ2]

Is it just me, or the Narrator is the VA for Gaia of god of War

[wingedsoul]

I still don't get it, are they a subspecies?

[cycodevilboy]

@wingedsoul They are another form of Chimpanzee. When the Congo river formed around 2 million years ago, there was a split between them and the Chimpanzees that most people are familiar with. So you can imagine how 2 million years could allow for major changes in both species, but in different directions.

[wingedsoul]

@cycodevilboy

Oh cool, thanks for answering that, It makes sense now. I have also heard they have found those giant chimpanzees in the Congo as well. They are bigger and nest on the ground, there is a video of one in a zoo here on youtube somewhere just search giant chimpanzee

[kd1s]

Oh no! We're not related to Chimps or Bonobos. Yeah right. We all branched from a common ancestor, Humans, Chimps and Bonobos.

[purerealitybtch]

Bonobo females give sex in exchange for food

[twizy123]

sounds like the talking tree from disney's pocohontas tbh..

[dav231988]

That alpha female is so much like my mom

[catchersmitt0]

Human and chimpanzees both evolved from a common ancestor 8 million years ago. Evolution hasn't stood still for chimps.

[rmephh]

It really irritates me how that narrator keeps referring to them as "chimps", like 'bonobo' is only sort of a name on the side:- taxonomically they're a separate species.

[rewtyquiop]

The bonobo is NOT a chimpanzee. It is it's own species. It was previously thought to be a subspecies of the chimpanzee, but is not.

[Cephalochordata]

Meh, Chimpanzee-Schimpanzee.

Chimps and Bonobos are each others nearest relatives both morphologically and genetically. They're named Pan troglodytes and Pan paniscus and what people should want to call them beyond that has no scientific relevance.

Stop arguing over semantics.

[redeyedol]

Common Chimp vs Bonobo is the same as Homo Sapien vs Homo Neanderthalis; just 2 species within the same genus (first 2 = chimp, the other 2 = human).

[unfad1ng]

@rewtyquiop

Well it has been sugested that chimps and bonobos should both be move to the homo group and therefore thay are both humans really :P

[Omega3chimp]

If they eat fish they would become smarter.

[lawenforce]

The banobo is a chimpanzee. Also referred to as the pygmy chimp.

[a1974h]

Maybe we are a chimpanzee and bonobo hybrid that then evolved to us

[matt1523]

all i know is we are a evolved primate and if anyone argues that fact show them this video cause that what im gonna do and see what it does

[Arthurfex]

true that

[wubs23]

uhm.. no.

'modern' apes such as bonobo's and chimpanzees are just as evolved as we are.

we did not originate from these apes, but we have a common ancestor.

[matt1523]

in no way am i denying that regardles of what you say my comment still stays true because i said we are a evolved primate because that is what we are

The same system that allows people to accept cats are felines and dogs are canines is the same system used to tell us that humans are primates

[bizarewigga]

@wubs23 true man true

and yet alot of ignorant people say we are monkeys

[Darkeons]

@bizarewigga

Wubs23 is absolutely right. But we are still monkeys though. We're just a different species.

[bizarewigga]

@Darkeons we are primates

[Darkeons]

@bizarewigga Yes I agree. But you said we weren't monkeys, and i just disagree with that.

[Darkeons]

@bizarewigga Yes I agree. But you said we weren't monkeys, and i just disagree with that. We're primates and i guess the monkey/ape part comes down to definition of the word ;)

[sidewaysfcs0718]

@wubs23 ur wasting ur words on petty uneducated minds

[Aspanaut]

@wubs23 Ok so they may not be exact replicas,but how much do you think Chimpanzees have really evolved in the last 5 million years,given the conditions.

I'd say they are a living example.

[fuckedupspaz123]

bonobos walk better then chimps do upright, they dont waddle as much as chimps and they walk feet forward, where as chimps move their whole body

[Karcharokles]

to tzepesh20: monkeys are primates too...guess what you meant was "this not monkey this ape"...(primates: both monkeys and apes; apes: only gibbons,orang utans, chimps (incl. bonobos), gorillas and humans; monkeys: all the rest of the primates except the halfmonkeys(not sure if they're called that in english-?), which mostly consist of the lemurs)

[fuckedupspaz123]

theyre called prosimians :)

[Neenatooke]

I wonder... With genetic engineering or selective breeding, can humans replicate the jaw muscle mutation, that first created homo erectus, in chimpanzees, bonobos, orangutan, or gorillas and actually create a new species that would have the brain capacity of a human?

[Proletariat12]

Why would we want to?

We are already overpopulating this planet like a mothafucka

[dkmagby88]

Since they're endangered and have so much regulation around them...I highly doubt anyone will ever get the chance unless a mad scientist kidnaps a chimp or bonobo. Some researchers wonder if chimps and humans are truly a different species and that possibly we could reproduce with each other...though again...doubt if anyone will ever try that.

[dgrover54]

i never seen a monkey walk upright

[dgrover54]

ok i never seen a primate walk like this before i see why some believe in evolution

[tehinfidel]

Glad you liked it; it blew my mind when I saw it.

To nitpick a bit, evolution is less a belief than a conclusion drawn on evidence, across many disciplines (geology: rock formations and tectonic activity; physics: radioactive decay; biology: morphology, biogeography; and the most compelling of all now: DNA; et al.).

They come together collectively and point to the same answer: an old universe and earth, and common descent thereupon.

Pictures are more compelling, though; check my other videos.

[oshmunnies]

Keep 'em coming, tehinfidel....you've got some of the most entertaining and interesting videos on Youtube!

[cycodevilboy]

@tehinfidel Thank you very much for posting this video! I have become infatuated with evolution, and you are 100% right; there are mountains of evidence for evolution. But, videos like this will hopefully influence people that have a hard time believing in evolution. Have you read Richard Dawkins 'The Greatest Show on Earth'?

[paolopan83]

Oh i belive in gravity too...

[HeathenLoveGod]

@dgrover54 - actually most intelligent people believe in evolution. The alternative is a fairy story for people who don't want to admit the pointlessness of their existence.

[wingedsoul]

@HeathenLoveGod

Well I also don't think the argument of "just cuz" is a good argument, most top theoretical physicists believe in a higher being or power while still believing in physics and evolution.

[socokilzu]

@dgrover54

its not really a "belief" anymore. The only ones who argue against it are the bible thumpers and the racists. society chooses to pacify these groups, and let them have their fairy tale existence but in truth..... your looking at a primate which simply filled a slightly different niche than the primates who eventually became humans. Like it or not. Yes they are just as evolved as we are, just different niche thats all

[diurnalguy]

very cool to see, i was luck enough to briefly see a bonobo do this at the San Diego zoo.

[nuber11blade]

Amazing indeed

[nuber11blade]

Haru meaning Summer

[selvatico3]

amazing