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  • perhaps THIS video should have been titled "Enemies of Reason"...

  • You are not an idiot for believing in a higher power. You are an idiot for thinking your "faith" is a "fact". You move down the scale from idiot to asshole when you think you have a right to make anyone else live by your beliefs. Some where even further down the scale you become Bill Orielly.

  • Deepak Chopra is an idiot!

  • Where did you get those sweet shades?

  • You take time to inform a distinguished physician that the heart pumps blood. I'm sure he had no idea. If you believe that his stance can be refuted on logical grounds, great, we would love to hear it. If you find it necessary to slant the meaning of an overwhelmingly ubiquitous word used to describe emotion/intuition/soul/moralit­y/identity etc. than your argument is clearly lacking.

  • @TheGunslinger91 care to logically explain why chopra and o'reilly both accuse atheists (like dawkins) of getting 'too emotional' as if emotion is a bad thing, but then turn around 2 minutes later and use 'the heart' (you've admitted that strictly means emotion) as a reason to have their own faith?

  • @C0ct0pusPrime Thanks for your reply. Make no mistake, I am not defending O'reilly (his 'arguments' are frankly embarrassing) but the exchange about emotion did not imply that emotion was bad, but highlighted the fact that some atheists such as Dawkins see fit to project an arrogant attitude that insults the intelligence of believers rather than convincing them that their belief is unreasonable. Also, I did not say the heart was strictly emotion, but emotion/intuition/soul/moralit­y/identity etc.

  • @TheGunslinger91 not to be an ass, but you're just tap-dancing around the point like chopra is. you think the heart is "emotion/intuition/soul/morali­t­y/identity etc.", i think its an organ meant to pump blood, especially to the brain, which gives us the consciousness to even contemplate these absurdities.

    cheers.

  • @C0ct0pusPrime My point was that I'm not mistaken on the function of the heart, and neither is Dr. Chopra; but to dodge the meaning of the metaphor to make him out to be an archaic-minded idiot is not a legitimate criticism. If someone said I had guts (courage) I wouldn't argue the digestive function of my intestines. Any believer (or dis-believer) should be able to accept challenges to his ideas, but degrading the intellectual value of the man instead of the idea is not productive. Thanks.

  • @TheGunslinger91 fine, but my point is that the heart's actual function, not its metaphorical meaning. if you said you felt bravery in your gut, i would say that what you actually have is courage in your head...your gut has nothing to do with it, as your heart has nothing to do with "emotion/intuition/soul/morali­t­y/identity".

    not to mention the hypocrisy of saying emotion is bad when atheists use it, but is essential to feeling 'spiritual' or whatever.

  • "i kicked his but both times"!?!?!?!?!?!? im choking on my beer here!!!!!! what the fuck?!?!?!? what a self deluded, lying idiot. dawkins may as well talk to a monkey next time!

  • 14 Indians disliked this.

  • O reilly is the biggest fucktard in history. greeting from holland

  • pcht.weebly dot com

  • Depak believes in the mysterious eastern influenced mystical and ultimately unknowable God that is everything and that helps sell a shit load of books. Here's the deal Depak, If the "Source" is umnkowable by the mind, then pleas STFU and keep this bullshit to yourself. I love how Billo tries to make everyone agree with Catholicism. Keep Hanging your hat on the abiogenesis argument and well talk in a few years, M'kay.

  • This is what happens when two idiots get together... lol

  • I love your uploads

  • Well Bill is right him and Chopra are idiots

  • This kind of sloppy reporting and ignorance makes me sad to be an american... hey anyone in the uk think our situations have switched over the past 200 years? I do. I need to get out of here..

  • @Weerdo2522

    Don't feel bad this kind of reporting is international. These 2 should be embarrassed.

  • "Whatever has been created comes from intelligence that is connected to the source of intelligence."

    Scientists who are so much smarter than me but can not see through this theology nonsense baffle my mind. If you can understand all those mathematical formulas and laws of physics then how is your thinking still hampered?

  • at least chopra issued an apology.

  • to be fair to Chopra when referring to 'the heart', he obviously knows it's intended purpose and was referring to human consciousness/the soul/'the heart' as it's sometimes called. So that was a bit of a ridiculous argument.

  • @erinl400 He was being a smart ass

  • @CABALCORE100 chopra and c0ct0pus?

  • @erinl400 c0ct0pus

  • if that guy is a scientist im a fucking bible thumbing right wing creationist jezuzlover

  • @managarm1349 is deepak chopra a scientist? well he's a pseudo scientist.

  • coctopus is his usual amazing self...

  • nature is OUR ONLY commonality.... this is ourcollective meeting point....keep your religion to your self...NOW...Chopra is a liar, as is O'shithead

  • Hey is it gay to say "I love your man cave?" Oh well.

  • Comparing I.q they are idiots next to Dawkins

  • I wonder how "D-Pack," as O'Reilly called him, liked having his name mispronounced as if this were the first time that Bill had even heard Chopra's name!

  • @capoman1 I've always wondered that, how DO you say his name anyway?

  • The best part of all this is that were it not for a mutual disdain for Dawkins these two idiots would NEVER agree to talk to each other.

  • Abraham Lincoln was a Deist

  • "He really thinks we're idiots"

    He's not alone.

  • Watch this link!

    watch?v=zJ4jYvbxTCk

    

  • No matter how much scientific education this man has at the end of the day he is trying to convince me that there is an invisible ghost man in the sky

  • @TheEmptyHunter- You are correct.

    But it's important to note that the English system upon which our system is based, is itself founded on biblical principles, e.g. moralistic concepts of right and wrong, sin, exile, punishment/ retribution, leniency for confessors, and rehabilitation.

    Attorneys are taught that when we are in law school. Well, in the quality law schools, anyway.

  • @Annabells117 sin is nowhere mentioned in English Common law. That's the one thing you can draw a parallel to the Bible AND it's not even mentioned. :P

  • Dawkins doesn't think he is a genius he just says that you are a dumbfuck. Period.

  • Apu FTW! 

  • I hate the term "unknowable" what about "we don't know, but we're still trying to figure this shit out".

  • @DonMezzo

    I agree, no real scientist would ever use that word.

  • Chopra apologized to Dawkins on his YouTube channel today

  • lol justice system based on the commandments? No, the US Justice system is based on English common law.

  • Obviously, this combination of Deepak and O'Reilley is stupid. But for anyone who hasn't seen Deepak's apology yet, go check it out. He apologizes for attacking Dawkins for being critical of his ideas. It wouldnt be good to go make fun of him or anything, but it is actually nice that he understood his mistake and tried to make it right.

  • LOL more emotional arguments from atheists? is he serious?

  • Octopus, for a guy who can say 'cognitive disconnect', you aren't looking too smart. And making fun of chopra's accent is real class, good luck with ur life

  • Also BillO and Chopra, you guys should REALLY not hope there is a 'just god'. Because a just god would wash your lying mouths out with an entire fucking soap factory and bitchslap you for being such dishonest agents of ignorance.

    Also BillO, you're rich, so according to Jesus, you'll burn in hell. Rich people go to hell according to the bible. Camel. Needle. Bitch. You should pray your religious nonsense IS in fact nonsense.

  • Aaah Chopra and O'Reilly, truly a meeting of misinforming vermin if there ever was one.

  • "dr" deepak chopra? even if someone has a degree in something, if they are lying scum like deepak they dont deserve the title of "dr"

  • I can't decide which of these morons is more detestable.

  • I'd love to have a throw down with you. I'm pretty sure I could kick your ass. But I'd kinda like to find out. Any way. I stil want to find out.

  • @hevyAccel "I'd love to have a throw down with you. I'm pretty sure I could kick your ass. But I'd kinda like to find out. Any way. I stil want to find out."

    gonna be around orlando any time soon? more than willing to go MMA (with gloves, broke my hand once before)...hope you can handle 6'6" and almost 300 lbs of liberal atheist rage :)

    ps - not a threat, but an offer...winner buys the loser a beer and actually gets to know him.

  • @C0ct0pusPrime Not sure which of my meds influenced that call out. I got broadsided by a prius last month on a motorcycle while riding home from where I bought it. BUT Once I'm back in condition, I'll be there. All of my best friends were made by having a good throw down.

    6'6"? Holy crap! My best bud is around that height. I'm a bit under 6'. But as it is, And since I challenged, beer after should be on me (Especially since most of the fighters around here are 6-ish and under)

    Also (next msg)

  • It's kind of unfortunate that Deepak Chopra isn't a total moron. For a smart guy he is a total dumbass. And BTW O'Reiley, science has manufactured cells right about 2007. So BAM!

  • At which point did Bill-O kick Dawkins's butt? I've been looking for the video of it, but no luck so far.When the holy hell did it happen?

  • @hevyAccel i think it's his "tide goes in tide comes out" argument, that left dawkins to question the evolutionoury theory. coz, he found out that some humans are not fully evolved yet.

  • @mroldschoolhiphop1 In any case, I guess, Tide goes in stains come out. You can't explain it!

  • @Elvishairdude89

    Royale with cheese.

    And if you are going to make retarded creationist statements, expect to be called out on it.

  • I nearly face-palmed myself unconscious watching this interview.

  • Deepak makes me wanna punch myself repeatedly in the face....

  • "cant even create most primitive life"

    FAIL! Last year, english scientists created a living bacteria.

  • Science can't prove that there isn't cocaine in the balloons that they sell to the kids at the grocery store up the road. Does that mean I'm gonna put a gun up to that fucker and steal his helium tank? Hell no!

    (But that fucker better start charging less now that I know better!)

  • Bill-o is calling someone else "dishonest"? He's amazing, he really is, seeing as he managed to say that with a straight face. Does anyone think that Bill-o actually believes in his god? To me it seems implausible. If I believed in the god that Bill-o claims he does, brazen, bare-faced lies and sleazy dishonesty of the lowest kind on national television would be things I really wouldn't want in my repertoire with the Big Brother watching my every word and move.

  • holy fuck, how can you watch these ignorant assholes talking? WTF, don't do that to yourself.

  • not even primitive intelligence... computers.

  • Is there a bigger idiot than O'Reilly?... really, anybody?

  • @nolobede ooh... that's a tough one. True, he is an world-class idiot, but you have to admit there are quite a few contenders...

  • @DrWoodwind5

    Oooooo.... so many. But this asshole has a television show. I wouldn't let my kids near the tv with this assholes face on it.

  • How can Deepak Chopra fail so much as to fall for the argument from ignorance and appeals to emotion? Poor, poor argumentation.

  • You have to go "Beyond the intellect.`

    Yes, that`s true. Too funny. Yes, true. To accept ancient, idiotic superstition, one must ignore intellect.

    Yup.

  • Oh Deepak. You'd use your credentials if you had any...

  • Actually...I have a PhD in science( nanotech) and I know NO ONE, NO ONE, including noble laureates and brilliant people who believe in such BS man made religions and deities. Collins is an exception and to us, he has a serious brain wiring malfunction. Something is seriously WRONG with parts of his brain. Collins's belief in christianity is in EXACT opposition to his scientific beliefs and scientific facts as we know it. He is a defected product of science.

  • @jubinliam Is it really defective? I think it may be more along the lines of compartmentalization, which many people are really good at. He was probably raised to apply different standards to most of the world than to his beliefs and as such can be skeptical, scientific, rational etc. about some things while ignoring those same standards when it comes to his religion.

  • @gagaplexTrue compartmentalization is especially common among many suffering from mental illness and/or childhood trauma. But what doesn't add up is his SCIENTIFIC LOGICAL CRITICAL THINKING training and his religiosity. I was raised in Iran and surrounded up to my neck with religion and I know of NO ONE in the scientific field who is religious, most in fact are atheist such as myself (incognito when we are in Iran of course). Belief in faith is the antithesis of scientific thinking.

  • @gagaplex In fact to us in Iran who have scientific training and KNOW the region/its people and history among whom all Ibrahimic holymen were from, the most common sense and OBVIOUS explanation for Ibrahimic faith is the highly common condition of Schizophrenia ( comes from inbreeding, very common in mid east). Couple that with extensive drug and shroom use which DEFINES this region to this day and BINGO, you have Judaism, Christianity& Islam ( & mother of them Zoroastrianism).

  • @gagaplex & I wish the explanation wasn't this simple...this is the Occam Razor of it all.Mental Illness + drug use and nothing else. These two phenomenon defined our beliefs ever since we had fire and shelter & could actually sit and think. In fact, MOST notable people who made a difference and left names for themselves throughout the ages in our entire history of men most likely, and in many cases, without a doubt, suffered from some sorta mental illness which exacerbated by various toxins.

  • Awesome edits. what's the music at 3:34?

  • @bigbadalastor

    well I guess it would be the music that plays at many edits in the video

  • I always find these Fox clips extremely hard to watch.

  • Think with your heart - what if you get a heart transplant? Will you now start thinking like the person from whom you got your heart? Does this mean that you could suddenly become an atheist?

  • Its funny how they try to reverse their positions by claiming to base their beliefs on reason&science while claiming that the atheists are the exact opposite. I would love to hear a psychologists take on it.

    Sure a designer might have made the universe but

    1. Who was the designer? Thor, Ra, Vishnu, Yaweh, ? Theres over 2000 to choose from.

    2. poor explanation since it replaced one unknown with another.

    3. could have been multiple designers

    4. finite universe doesnt imply infinite designer

  • I find it hard to believe that some people actually look up to o'reilly and think "this man has a grasp on reality."

  • The facepalm @ 5:37 describes exactly how i feel. thats the most epic facepalm EVER!!

  • Deepak is a disingenuious fraud.

  • Bill O'Reilly is a MORON. Anybody that can't understand what causes the tide to rise and fall is a fucking moron unless they are just learning about it like in first grade or something.

  • lmao.... how fail... how frekin fail. great video!

  • oops forget to add tissue

  • and produces amino acids

  • we actully have made artificial. look it up.

  • Well Bill O'reilly you are a idiot. +1 for Dawkins.

  • Deepak Chopra is a moron. Why did Mlodinow write a book with him? Also why wasn't he invited on to the show too?!

  • The hole in ID according to the ID movements standards

    Who is the designer?

    How did the designer do it?

    Why can we not examine this designer?

  • Bill knows Deepak Chopra is a quack right?

  • Why are atheists angry? Because watching O'Reilly and Chopra wax idiotic is infuriating.

  • Double-Cunt-Fail. Triple Dawkins Win. Bye

  • Sorry. Couldn't finish it. Got three minutes in and switched it the hell off.

  • I use to think you were wasting you time in making these videos but now I've come to realize that we need people like to hold line for I do not have the patience to deal with morons and religitards like these. Please keep up the good work and May You Be Touch By His Noodley Appendage and Basque In The Glow of Her Holiness, The IPU. R'amen

  • O'Reilly tilts the fuck outta me. He's so damn insecure in his questioning that he can't even let people answer...he's always trying to answer for them so they don't say something he disagrees with.

    And nice character assassination on Dawkins while he's not around to retort.

    Fucking asshole.

  • Ha O'Reilly calling someone dishonest!!! I'm literally rolling around my floor in laughter!!!

  • ever played alpha centauri?

    "Man's unfailing capacity to believe what he prefers to be true rather than what the evidence shows to be likely and possible has always astounded me. We long for a caring Universe which will save us from our childish mistakes, and in the face of mountains of evidence to the contrary we will pin all our hopes on the slimmest of doubts. God has not been proven not to exist, therefore he must exist. "

  • I guess O'Reilly never read Article 11 of the "Treaty of Tripoli" which was signed by President John Adams, and unanimously signed by the Senate before sending it to him. Also, I guess that most Conservatives/Christians missed the part of the Constitution about no religious tests.

    Keep up the great work C0ct0pus.

    Go to avalon*law*yale*edu/18th_centu­ry/bar1796t*asp#art11 to see how this nation was not built on Christian Values. And no, there are no 10 commandments in the Supreme Court.

  • GRRRRR! O'Reilly is so full of BULLSHIT!

  • What are they talking about?? cells can be made artificially... ignorant fools

  • Oriley just mad cause he got owned last time

  • "Its more emotion with them... and they get really upset" ... oh the projection.

    Like some other commenters, this killed any respect I had for Chopra, fuck him.

  • i wonder what is their combined IQ

  • C0c, what's the song you've got going in the background?

    Keep doing what you're doing!

  • Since when do scientists need to make a human cell? What kind of nonsense is that?

  • look up leanord mladinow vs. deepak chopra. a physicist tries to point out he's full of shit and of course chopra continues to be a belligerent fucktard with his nonsensical vague bullshit.

  • Bill OReilly and Apu here both need to get the fuck off the air.

  • Dude, O'Reilly isn't dumb, he's smart as hell.

    What's wrong about O'Reilly is that he knows what the level of his audience is. He knows it and he wants to keep them that way.

    O'Reilly isn't stupid, O'Reilly is a player who protects his interest, no matter the cost.

  • @K03nS You're probably right, but that just makes him that much more detestable. Intentionally keeping the ignorant within their ignorance should be a crime of the highest magnitude, especially when it's motivated by greed.

  • @K03nS

    Thank you. This needs to be said more.

  • I would agree that he is smart... but I don't think he is very intelligent. He is just smart in his own field. He knows exactly what he is doing.

  • interesting how lost this guy is

    In that exact "ambush" interview he bitches about, Deepak admits himself that he uses "quantum mechanics" as buzz words to sell his demonstrable bullshit, now he claims Dawkins uses "science to camouflage his bigotry"

    lol I lost my shit right there, this guy is a fucking clown

  • Ok..that's it. Let's start rounding them up.

  • " I kicked his butt" ...what a deluded ass.

  • Dumb and dumber?

  • I've seen Deepak debate before.

    I'm not impressed at all. I find him to be a complete cumbersome, boring as fuck, idiot of a person.

  • HAHAHAHA! (at 6:07).

  • -to their names. But the older I get the more truth I see in the reality of it all. That no matter what you know, no matter how much you have read the Britanica encyclopedia, or anything really. The real pickle is this. Do you understand it. And more importantly it's what you DO with all the stuff you've learned. The application of it all. And it shows

    You can know everything there is to know of the construct of RNA/DNA etc, but still believe something is real based on faith.

    facepalmSLAP!

  • 'no, the heart pumps blood...'

    I thought exactly the same thing. What a bunch of fuck-tards.

    But that's why this pinhead is on Oreiley's show. He's a fellow fuck-tard who opposes reason. What's worse. He uses science to reaffirm that you don't need evidence at all, rather you need to rely on faith. How can one argue with such puerile thinking.I used to feel belittled by people of the scientific mind, or at least, people who are educated well enough to publish books and have certain degrees to-

  • O'Reilly needs to come with a health warning: WILL rot your brain.

    Deepak Chopra should come with similar warnings, but extra health risks.

  • Dawkins must have the patience of a saint.

  • Just because you don't CURRENTLY understanding something, it DOESN'T mean that you should fill in the gaps with god. Sheeeesh. For example, people back in the day saw comments for the 1st time in the sky and they didn't know what it was, so they said that this flying commet in the sky was 'a sign from god'.... (they filled in with god) ... later scientist proved in was the work of gravity... the more they fill in with god and the more science disproves them later on, the more stupid they look.

  • Science has never been able to manufacter one human cell!!!!! What the fuck is this human wasteland talking about!?

  • Goddamn its like these guys are jerking each other off.

  • Deepak Chopra is a snake oil salesman. He's one of the many new age bullshit artists. He's more full of shit then an overflowing septic tank.

  • In fact you tube "what the bleep do we know" its long but will explain almost everthing.. Also very new is "ancient aliens the cygnus mystery" they jus found out how human evolved so quickly 40000 years ago..

  • Before u bash deepak as a slurpie sellin jesuse freak you should do some more reaserch i havent belived in a christian god.. Since i was old enuf to say.. That cant b right. Watch the movie " what the bleep do we know" thats what deepak belives in not god. Even this video he never says god.. He said an omnipresent factor that we connect with. Watch the video kid.

  • @jjk810jwu he's a snake oil salesman and he tries to keep from getting to specific with his faith as to keep it mysterious enough to defend. but even in this video he says that 'jesus and other messiah's/prophet's came to a spiritual level where they could "talk" or just "understand" the deity in which he believes.

    who knows what the fuck this asshole believes, from what i've seen he's too slimey to get a hold of...unlike o'reilly who is retarded and quite blunt about it.

  • @C0ct0pusPrime If you read his book How To Know God you will find out that Deepak is an atheist. He doesn't believe in any deity. When he says god he is referring to consciousness. He also didn't call Jesus a messiah. He definitely isn't a Christian and I've seen him debate Christians. He thinks the religion is dangerous. Hes written like 70 books so his beliefs are pretty easy to know.

  • @bizzyb0ne017 "Deepak is an atheist." 5:18

    "He also didn't call Jesus a messiah."

    you're right, he called jesus a 'great prophet'...sounds like a real atheist to me!

    "Hes written like 70 books so his beliefs are pretty easy to know."

    right, because what i want to do when i find a dishonest hack like chopra is spend every free moment buying and reading his bullshit...just like i'm sure o'reilly spends every free moment reading dawkins...

  • @bizzyb0ne017 "When he says god he is referring to consciousness." Still a form of god. Meaning he is not an atheist. He is a theist or a deist. Depending on what else he believes.

  • @NathanWubs Thats not true. God is a supreme "being". Consciousness is not a being. By your definition even Richard Dawkins would be a theist because the big bang would be his god.

  • @bizzyb0ne017 seems you have a problem being called a theist. You struck out, sadly.

  • @NathanWubs I do have a problem being called a theist. I do not believe in god. You however, do not know the definition of a theist. You are the one that struck out, open a dictionary.

  • @bizzyb0ne017 *face palms and walks away*

  • @NathanWubs dictionary . com

  • @jjk810jwu did you lie about your age to YouTube? 24 and your grammar is like a uneducated 8 year old.

  • Strip away the pseudoscientific mumbo-jumbo and Chopra is just another anti-science apologist for Intelligent Design Creationism. He professes belief in a deity in this video, and predictably, his definition is every bit as fuzzy and indistinct as most christians'.

  • @methinxaweezil Not once does he profess belief in a deity in this video, you just lied. He goes out of his way to avoid professing belief in a deity because he does not believe in a deity. He is also very far from anti-science. He loves science and thinks its great. You are either completely retarded or a very dishonest liar. Take your pick.

  • @bizzyb0ne017

    5:10 "…I think there is an active source, an intelligent source that is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient…"

    Chopra just defined "Deity". He could've simply said "yes" to O'Reilly's question since his "active source" has all the attributes of your average deity. It's no secret that Chopra is an apologist for intelligent design creationism and here he exhibits the typical semantic tap dancing around the issue that is characteristic of that ilk-- the more vague, the better.

  • @jjk810jwu I am pretty sure Chopra's belief may come from certain drug induced hallucinations ( or brain induced). I myself experienced some crazy stuff in hospital after I was given serious pain killers ( opiates). I am SURE those who have any spiritual belief based on their personal experiences must have experienced them this way ( or they have certain mental illness, such as Schizophrenia, common, and very common in the middle east specifically). Personal exp however doesn't make it a reality

  • Nice vid. Keep blasting Devildriver!!!

  • science hasn't produced a single living thing? j.craig venter institute has created a fully functional , and fully synthetic life form.

  • Two fucking idiots vs. a trained scientist. Hm. Win goes to Dawkins even though he wasn't there. Peace.

  • All i got from this was "Enemies of Reason" and im now watching it on youtube.

  • Oh C0ct0pusprime why didn't you rant out this video?

  • Deepie old buddy you look old. So how's your pushing of your body clock back?

  • 2:48 IRON Y ALERT

  • ...it seems as if O'Reilly - even while having a good laugh with Deepak - was not completely happy with the round about science-proves-my-belief hippy philosophy of Deepak. seems O'Reilly was only looking for the answer he already has programmed into his thinking.

  • @Rechenmaschine I'm sure if it was just those and they weren't talking about Dawkins, Bill would turn on him.

  • O'Reilly is a toon.

    /watch?v=gcUo9Tk0A-s

    Deepak is a crank.

    tinyurl com/266bqsl

    I'm sorry you had to sully yourself to make this video of these two twits.

  • haha i love how bill all smugly is like "they haven't been able to create one human cell in the laboratory" and thinks that's the big slam dunk/checkmate for jesus or something.

  • "The fact that we live, that we exist is a miracle. Why do we even need to go beyond that?" ~Deepak Chopra

    The #1 thing that bothers me the most about this is how these people with this mindset are so incapable of having an idea that's original. It's 2011,and people still don't understand science. <--I seriously hope you guys don't do this. I'd rather a scientist be wrong a million times and eventually find the answer than have one person make a guess and try to convince everyone it's true.

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  • Project much?

  • Notice how Bill O'Reilly subtly moved the goalposts about the creation of life.  Notice how he said science has never made one HUMAN cell, when for the longest time one of the standard practices of theists was saying that science has never created LIFE.

    Except they did.

    So, instead of examining his own beliefs, Billo now has the measuring stick that science has to create a HUMAN cell. Total fail.