Sexism - Reponse To AngryAussie (MIRROR) [freedom0speech]

[WarmLittleDiamond90]

@darkouljp Have you considered that a reason for the decreased rate of HIV in circumcised women in Tanzania is due to decreased sexual activity, because some women experience shame & also a lack of pleasure after circumcision? The clitoris is the main erogenous zone for women, and I've read that some circumcised women only derive pleasure from sex through a feeling of 'closeness' to their partner. I agree with your stance on male circumcision, but not with your diminishing the female version.

[smashballbrawler]

I'm a male and I was circumcised as a baby. I hate the fact that I live in a society that percieves this as the norm. I want all the functions associated with my foreskin back. That said, I couldn't bare to look at my penis like that, I would think it looks disgusting. That's irrational, I know, and it's entirely a product of my society that I'm trying to overcome. To any man out there who has a foreskin, never take it for granted.

[mrrealtime]

Its frustrating that some people equate yelling with credibility. Seems like what we need isnt "outrage" , its communication, creative thinking, and healthy skepticism.

[XtalQRP]

A very thought provoking video. I wonder if a person circumcised at birth would be able to have legal redress through courts of law on the grounds that their human rights were violated? Kind Regards, Robs (UK)

[TiniNormi]

@XtalQRP

Actually, quite a few men are suing either their parents or whoever performed the operation.

[killingrang]

@killingrang

him:

You're a worthless shit eating cunt and totally beneath contempt. Just fucking die you cunt. I mean that literally. FUCKING DIE. Preferably choose a really painful method. You disgust me and every worthless cunt like you needs to be flayed alive.

You stinking fucking cunt.

after this i was blocked.

what i nice guy :)

[daddyg321]

If people would do research they would find those that are cut do have lower rate of disease, probably easier to keep clean.

[Mystoksor]

@daddyg321 This is the twenty-first century. We have access to soap and water. Cut or uncut, there's no reason not to wash. And it's not hard at all to clean a foreskin. If circumcision were a legitimate prophylaxis, then we'd see lower rates of disease and infection among cut guys across the board. Unfortunately for the pro-circumcision crowd, that just isn't the case.

[daddyg321]

@Mystoksor So by your thinking we would have no unplanned babies,drug addicts and several other problems that we have the tools and info to deal with, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[Mystoksor]

@daddyg321 Not a valid parallel. The issues you've listed are social issues, not health matters.

There are proven methods that can make HIV transmission nearly 100% avoidable, condoms for example. Why are we campaigning to stop AIDS with circumcision when condoms are cheaper and so much more practical? Answer: doctors have been circumcising for over a hundred years and using exaggerations or flat-out lies to justify genital mutilation. They don't want to give up the revenue it makes for them.

[daddyg321]

@Mystoksor Smoking, drinking,drugs, crabs, bad teeth, bed sores.... aren't health issues brought on by bad choices and improper care and cleansing? I think you need to do some research into how things work on this planet.

[Mystoksor]

@daddyg321 You're the one who would benefit from some research.

Circumcision is not recommended by a single health organization in the world, not even in America or Israel. The fact is that circumcision is no substitute for proper hygiene. If a man doesn't wash his genitals, it makes very little difference whether his penis has been cut or not. UTIs are far more common among girls, but that's no reason to remove the female foreskin. As for HIV, circumcison's prophylaxis is dubious at best.

[daddyg321]

@Mystoksor Good job at avoiding the stated issue, that usually indicates the offending comment is correct.

[Mystoksor]

@daddyg321 The stated issue? The stated issue is the health benefit of circumcision, which was the issue I addressed in your comment. You're the one avoiding the stated by trying to defend your argument by making invalid analogies. Now unless you can come up with a good argument as to why non-therapeutic, cosmetic genital-altering surgery should be forced on helpless infants, I suggest you stop commenting.

[endofscene]

@daddyg321 Can you cite references for this claim? If you did your research then you would see that there really is no link between penile status and disease. STIs are much more common in the largely circumcised USA than in largely intact Europe. Yet this does not mean that circumcision increases your risk of STI. Rather there are usually many factors involved, for example the lack of proper sex education in the USA.

[endofscene]

@daddyg321 As for "probably easier to keep clean". As if this is a valid reason for amputation of natural erogenous tissue. By that reasoning we should also be circumcising girls. It is no big deal cleaning an intact penis; it involves three simple steps: retract, rinse, return, and takes all of a few seconds in the shower. What is more, infants and children do not need to clean inside the penis; this only becomes necessary during adolescence.

[endofscene]

@daddyg321 If an adult wants to have genital surgery which will impact his sexual function and sensation just to save a few seconds in the shower then that is his choice. Most intact men never decide to do this. Smegma is a non-toxic substance produced by both sexes and its frequency of build-up is usually age and individual dependent.

[daddyg321]

@endofscene Damn you seem awfully long winded to say a few simple things. That indicates to me the issue here is your ego and desire to have power over others, what seems to be an inability see everyday things indicates that no matter what I cite only your"vast knowledge" has any validity in your world. If you ever see neglected teeth, obesity, smoking, drug abuse or..... then you can figure out how this fits in with your people always do the right thing health wise.

[endofscene]

@daddyg321 I don't see how any of my comments were "long-winded". I think they were rather concise. And as for the rest of your response, especially the last part, I don't know what you're talking about. Who is "my people"? And when did I say that "my people", whoever they may be, "always do the right thing health-wise"? "Inability to see everyday things": what does that mean? As far as citations, you make claims as if they are facts when at best they are theories and at worst, myths.

[Roenazarrek]

Ehh i'm pretty glad i was circumsized, also not having enough pleasure hardly seems to be a problem for guys.

[beefy0010]

so.... i would actually masturbate MORE if i still had my foreskin? jesus, i'd never leave my room. good riddance.

[10thAngel]

Is freedom0speech active somewhere?

[BrodieThePirate]

you said aussie wrong, pretend the s's are z's. Thanks you.

[Shydrow]

So i'm missing part of my sensation as a male? Damn that sucks.

[olly5802]

mate, mistress m also advocates having sex with horses, it's called satire. This "woman who featured on his channel" takes the piss out of all things sex related. Take your head out of your ass, and open your eyes.

[dalriada842]

@olly5802 You make a valid point...Except for the fact that it's called satire when you make fun of mutilating boy's genitals; but would be considered abusive if you made fun of mutilating girl's genitals. There's a clear double standard that has to be challenged whenever it rears its ugly head.

[Drinkinghotcoco]

with female circumcision, you are cutting the entire organ off. pretty much like cutting off the whole penis...

[dalriada842]

@Drinkinghotcoco You should check out the other circ videos on freedom0speech's channel. It's not as simple as that!

[Drinkinghotcoco]

@dalriada842 but thats how it looks to me...

[dalriada842]

@Drinkinghotcoco Did you watch any of the freedom0speech videos on the subject? The foreskin of an intact man has 5 times as many nerves as the head of his penis; and 2.5 times as many nerves as a woman's clitoris. Almost 85% of the nerves are destroyed in a circumcised penis. Only the most extreme, and least common, forms of FGM exceed this emasculation. Also, most of the clitoris is buried inside the body.

[Drinkinghotcoco]

@dalriada842 i still cant agree with that because a woman has a lot more nerve endings than a male when it comes to the genetalia, and even if a man is circumcised, he can still erect for pleasure. if u circumcised a woman, all of that feeling is gone, and she can no longer feel pleasure anymore... so tell me, why is that not worse than male circumcision. this is something that many african women suffer everyday, and they dont know the meaning of pleasure at all because of this...

[dalriada842]

@Drinkinghotcoco It is the nerves that allow feeling, and hence pleasure. Most circumcised men can still function sexually, but they have substantially reduced pleasure as a result of the mutilation they have suffered, in comparison to intact men.

You are wrong to say that women lose all feeling. That is anti-FGM propaganda from feminists. The women themselves report that they can still enjoy sex and have orgasms,in most cases, just as circumcised men do. It is a matter of degree.

[Drinkinghotcoco]

@dalriada842 based on a lot of guys i have heard that circumcision has a better feeling than uncircumcised.

[Drinkinghotcoco]

@dalriada842 and it isnt 85 percent of the nerves damaged in a mans penis after circumcision... the penis including the skin has 20,000 nerve endings while the clitoris has a little over 40,000... plus it also depends on the individual, so i think your facts are a little exagerating

[dalriada842]

@Drinkinghotcoco It is disingenuous to compare the totality of female sensation with that of the foreskin alone. The foreskin ALONE has 20000 Meissner Corpuscles. The glans penis has 4000 nerves, mostly free nerves that sense pain. The glans clitoris has 8000 nerve endings. If you obtained those figures from the channel I suggested you check out, you misunderstood them. My statement that the foreskin has 2.5 times the number of nerves as the clitoris is correct. 2.5x8000=20000

[Drinkinghotcoco]

@dalriada842 im sorry but you are not correct with your statement... because never endings are different with the individual. one woman can have 100,000 nerve endings compared to a guy with 20,000, or 50,000 to a male compared to 5000 with a woman. so your statement also shows contradiction... it all depends on the individual like i said. and bottom line, nobody shouldnt get circumcised, not even a woman or a little girl!!

[dalriada842]

@Drinkinghotcoco Individuals do vary, I don't disagree with that. I was using typical values across the population. There is no contradiction. Where are you getting your figures from?

I'm glad we both agree that the mutilation of children is a bad thing!

How would these guys know that it is better to be circumcised? I'll bet all of them were cut as babies and have no frame of reference, other than societal prejudice! Few adults volunteer for this, unless they have some sort of problem.

[dalriada842]

@Drinkinghotcoco Also [20000/(20000+4000)]x100=83.3r­ecurring% or almost 85% You are correct that there is variation between individuals. There are also numerous different techniques for both FGM and MGM. This leads to varying levels of sensory deficit for both males and females.

There are about 5 times as many males, as females, with mutilated genitals on this planet! Many of them live in the US. Your campaigning efforts would be more productive opposing this Evil in your own country!

[Drinkinghotcoco]

@dalriada842 and the penis has just as much nerve endings as the clitoris, there isnt any more nor any less, so i think there is some exxageration in your so called facts...

[dalriada842]

@Drinkinghotcoco I can't recall the original source for this info, but a google search comes up with the same figures:

wwwDOTesybronDOTorg/index.phtm­l?p=female

Replace the DOT with a .

Scroll down to clitoral sensitivity.

I didn't say you supported circumcision, nor did I say you shouldn't oppose FGM. I explained why it is hypocrisy. As an American , you can make a real difference in lobbying your elected officials to outlaw the mutilation of boys.You have zero chance of doing this in Africa!

[Drinkinghotcoco]

@dalriada842 i pretty much know that i cant make a difference in Africa, i only used the problem in Africa as a mere example. nothing more...

[dalriada842]

@Drinkinghotcoco FGM is banned in the US, but over a million baby boys have their genitals mutilated in the US every year. In breach of the 14th amendment to your constitution. It is sexist hypocrisy to campaign against such abuses to girls on the other side of the world, and ignore those abuses to boys on your own doorstep! You have a much better chance of effecting change in the US. THEN you can campaign against abuses in Africa, where both sexes are mutilated, and not look like a hypocrite!

[Drinkinghotcoco]

@dalriada842 women should be included. i dont agree with that. and how am i a hypocrite? please look through all my comments and prove that to me? because the statement about the african women was an example... and i didnt say shit about supporting the mutilation of boys.. do not put words in my mouth..

[MrCuntyballs2U]

Great work.....I believe the @AngryAussie one is a little disappointed to say the least over the size of his own dick... It wasn't up to much anyway then they removed 90% when he was cut

[Apparoid]

Your my hero.

[Catchicken89]

I know this is a mirror, but I'd like to point out a couple of things.

1. It appears he may have yelled about not talking about male circumcision because people start ranting about it, and he was addressing female circumcision in particular since it was in the news that week.

2. Mistress M is only semi-serious in her advice. Mentioning that it will feel different etc does not advocate the practice of male circumcision.

That is all.

[russianrusaln]

dude omfg i learned so much un this vid lloll so is it better circimsized or not for men and what are pros and cons for them both (talking bout men here)

[Aprilshowersss]

@russianrusaln there are no pros to circumscribing male genitalia. the only possible pro i can think of is if an adult man wants it done cause he thinks he would like it for whatever reason, appearance maybe. But doing it to a baby it purely wrong in every single way.

Just think what the pros of giving your newborn a tattoo would be. ITs a cosmetic choice he should make on his own as an adult and should not be forced into as a helpless infant.

[russianrusaln]

@Aprilshowersss but i dont unferstand why its wrong and you compare it to a tattoo

[Aprilshowersss]

@russianrusaln There is nothing wrong with doing it to yourself,although I cant imagine why someone would want to do it. Its wrong to do it to a child who doesnt have the choice because it is harmful and purely cosmetic... meaning there is no medical advantage to having a circumcised penis. This vid outlines many of the reasons it is harmful and unnecessary.

I compared it to a tattoo because its a permanent cosmetic procedure that no one should be forced into. it must be your choice for youself

[russianrusaln]

@Aprilshowersss i am:(