This scene was soo unexpected. But the reason Vaughn is unresponsive and antagonistic to his warning is because Jack and Vaughn are NOT in the same situation; there is a duplicitous spouse in each case, but that makes them similiar in a very superficial way. Jack should have appealed to reasonable doubt, and the ramifications of ignorance, instead of condemning both of their choices. Had it been detached and professional, Vaughn, while still being stuborn as hell, might have been more receptive.
Another interesting fact is he says that Lauren is not Irina, she is, and he is not Jack, but he is. They both fall for women who betray them, they both care for Sydney above anyone else. Now, Jack sees the same traits in Vaughn that he had himself when he was being betrayed by Irina and he tries to warn him. Jack is actually concerned and he tries to spare Vaughn from the pain and emotional toll it took on him but we all know Vaughn goes a little crazy in the end. He should've listened.
Here's the funny thing. Jack sincerely tries to warn Vaughn and he doesn't take heed to this warning. Now we all know this blows up in his face. Now, he smarts off at Jack but Vaughn has this nasty trait of butting into peoples lives and warning them as well. I think that's the irony. He tells someone something they dnt want to hear and they blow up, just as he's done here.
@TatianaOnegina Jack is the Dumbest Character in Alias, always made Critical Mistakes like accepting Irina again and again..whos the dumb one? Vaughn was right so many times unlike Jack, he investigated Irina while all the others were fooled by her..thats just one example
@TatianaOnegina2 he always lets his emotions get the better of him..ok thats true of all Alias Characters perhaps from Sydney to Sloane and yeah its maybe true thats not a good enough reason to call him dumb but the thing is no other character boasts about how smart they are and then goes and commits the same mistakes again and again..im not saying i dont like him, I mean i sympathize with him and really felt bad when he died but i just think he was the least intelligent one
But this scene is a perect example of why I don't really like Vaughn that much....I mean god...it's not a cake walk for Jack to be talking about Irina like that...with anyone...let alone Vaughn.
Sheesh way to be a jerk Vaughn.
Then agian I might just like defending my man Jack...because I pretty much love him. :)
I love jack too, vaughn really irritates me and gets on my nerves. I could of did without his character on Alias. I was hoping syd would hook up with will or sark(yes, I know thats a stretch.lol).
No Vaughn?? Vaughn's great! Well, that's my point of view... Jack's awsome too of course, but I'm a sucker for romance. Vaughn and Sydney are great together :D.
You've got to give Vaughn a little bit of credit, I don't think anyone would be very receptive while being treated as if their wife was betraying them. I am definitely not a Lauren fan and I absolutely love Jack, but it would not have been realistic if Vaughn had gone along with it...
Well this is not the only time Vaughn has been told something by Jack (or anyone) and just completely shut them down, without even a second thought. I agree that it wouldn't have been realitic, and I understand where Vaughn's coming from. But what I guess I'm trying to say that a trait of Vaughn's that I hate is he is so damn hard headed, and unable to just accept what people tell him or ask him to believe. This is NOT the only time he's been that way.
This scene was soo unexpected. But the reason Vaughn is unresponsive and antagonistic to his warning is because Jack and Vaughn are NOT in the same situation; there is a duplicitous spouse in each case, but that makes them similiar in a very superficial way. Jack should have appealed to reasonable doubt, and the ramifications of ignorance, instead of condemning both of their choices. Had it been detached and professional, Vaughn, while still being stuborn as hell, might have been more receptive.
xxAngelCakes14xx 4 months ago
I love Vaughn in this scene. I love it when he gets angry.
toothbrush55 8 months ago
I had issues with Vaughn too, I love Jack above all else things Alias. Difference is, Vaughn didn't really love Lauren, Jack did love Irina.
BDavis820 11 months ago 2
Another interesting fact is he says that Lauren is not Irina, she is, and he is not Jack, but he is. They both fall for women who betray them, they both care for Sydney above anyone else. Now, Jack sees the same traits in Vaughn that he had himself when he was being betrayed by Irina and he tries to warn him. Jack is actually concerned and he tries to spare Vaughn from the pain and emotional toll it took on him but we all know Vaughn goes a little crazy in the end. He should've listened.
ShakinNotStirred 1 year ago 3
Here's the funny thing. Jack sincerely tries to warn Vaughn and he doesn't take heed to this warning. Now we all know this blows up in his face. Now, he smarts off at Jack but Vaughn has this nasty trait of butting into peoples lives and warning them as well. I think that's the irony. He tells someone something they dnt want to hear and they blow up, just as he's done here.
ShakinNotStirred 1 year ago
I am glad to see that I am not the only one who had issues with Vaughn. I really tried to like him, but I just couldn't.
Jacks and Irina owns it all. :P
derevko2000 2 years ago
jack should have punched that faggot in his face....b****
BEYONCEBOOTY 2 years ago
well of course vaughn is not jack, he's weak and stupid. bleh
TatianaOnegina 2 years ago
@TatianaOnegina Jack is the Dumbest Character in Alias, always made Critical Mistakes like accepting Irina again and again..whos the dumb one? Vaughn was right so many times unlike Jack, he investigated Irina while all the others were fooled by her..thats just one example
Megapolable 1 week ago
@Megapolable jack's not dumb, just very sentimental :(
TatianaOnegina2 1 week ago
@TatianaOnegina2 he always lets his emotions get the better of him..ok thats true of all Alias Characters perhaps from Sydney to Sloane and yeah its maybe true thats not a good enough reason to call him dumb but the thing is no other character boasts about how smart they are and then goes and commits the same mistakes again and again..im not saying i dont like him, I mean i sympathize with him and really felt bad when he died but i just think he was the least intelligent one
Megapolable 1 week ago
love Victor Garber so much~~~
cherryadan 3 years ago 11
that guy?! that was hippie haiered, singing jesus from godspell!!!??!! wow...
Irishqueen88 4 years ago
ive also hated lauren...everytime i see her i wanna punch her australian face -__-
gSaOcGgDhGiRl 4 years ago 4
Yeah...bonding...not so much.
But this scene is a perect example of why I don't really like Vaughn that much....I mean god...it's not a cake walk for Jack to be talking about Irina like that...with anyone...let alone Vaughn.
Sheesh way to be a jerk Vaughn.
Then agian I might just like defending my man Jack...because I pretty much love him. :)
SpyDaughter 5 years ago 6
I love jack too, vaughn really irritates me and gets on my nerves. I could of did without his character on Alias. I was hoping syd would hook up with will or sark(yes, I know thats a stretch.lol).
IrinaDerevkoLives 5 years ago 2
:)
I have always been more of a Syd and Will wisher...
haha
SpyDaughter 5 years ago
No Vaughn?? Vaughn's great! Well, that's my point of view... Jack's awsome too of course, but I'm a sucker for romance. Vaughn and Sydney are great together :D.
alexi035 4 years ago 5
You've got to give Vaughn a little bit of credit, I don't think anyone would be very receptive while being treated as if their wife was betraying them. I am definitely not a Lauren fan and I absolutely love Jack, but it would not have been realistic if Vaughn had gone along with it...
ktbean39 4 years ago 7
Well this is not the only time Vaughn has been told something by Jack (or anyone) and just completely shut them down, without even a second thought. I agree that it wouldn't have been realitic, and I understand where Vaughn's coming from. But what I guess I'm trying to say that a trait of Vaughn's that I hate is he is so damn hard headed, and unable to just accept what people tell him or ask him to believe. This is NOT the only time he's been that way.
Oscarbound2020 4 years ago 2
so not a bonding moment
daphneyuazutara 5 years ago