"Therefore, dearly beloved brethren, let us cheerfully do all things that lie in our power; and then may we stand still, with the utmost assurance, to see the salvation of God, and for his arm to be revealed." Joseph Smith Jr.
"I would that ye should come unto Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel, and partake of his salvation, and the power of his redemption. Yea, come unto him, and offer your whole souls as an offering unto him, and continue in fasting and praying, and endure to the end; and as the Lord liveth ye will be saved." Joseph Smith Jr.
"Shall we not go on in such great a cause?" "A man filled with the love of God, is not content with blessing his family alone, but ranges through the whole world, anxious to bless the whole human race."
@omiolo actually, my God brought me out of mormonism and into the arms of Jesus Christ. Funny how you all disregard the false prophesies of JS that PROVE he is NOT a prophet of God! Deut. 18:22
I was thinking of the Peanuts character Linus Van Pelt this week freezing in his pumpkin patch waiting patiently for the Great Pumpkin to appear on Halloween and it never does.
I thought of Linus because I sometimes think that the makers of Broadway's hit, award-winning musical about the Book of Mormon think of my faith the way I think of Linus' belief.
There's a substantial list of LDS Church members who have been on a national reality show. This list includes David Archuleta, Carmen Rasmussen and Brooke White on "American Idol." Don't forget Tyson Apostal on two seasons of .
The important consideration is not how long we can live but how well we can learn the lesson of life, and discharge our duties and obligations to God and to one another." Joseph Smith Jr. Service, try it sometime.
Using the Bible to prove that the Book of Mormon is true, is like using "Pinnochio" to prove that "Cinderella" is true. Both Fantasy. Both Stories. Both Fiction.
@amyleoness ITS CONVIENT FOR YOU TO AKE A STATEMENT, HIT AND RUN SO TO SPEAK. WHERE ARE FACTS? YOU ACCUSE BUT NO FACTS. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US POOR MORMONS.
The money spent on those huge temples could probably provide food and education for a couple of million kids.. But hey, god needs some new buildings..
@amyleoness PLEASE TELL US WHAT WE DO TO THE WORLD? WHAT IS IT THAT SO INFLAMES YOUR HEARTS TOWARDS LDS PEOPLE? I SEE NO DIFFERENCE THAN THE MOB HERE. Wuld you have crucified Moses when he came down off the mount? Your like the Saducees and Pharsies ofold, no difference whatsoever. None.
@amyleoness Oh, excuse me for my typo's that must have put a kink in your day. You may want to It not Moron Amyleoness its Mormon. Why don't you answer the questions above. What is it the inflames you and the mob so?
@amyleoness You won't answer and all you do is accuse. I have done nothing to you, I have ask several questions which you refuse to answer. If you look at what was said you were the one that was rude actually.
You have given no facts, no useful information, nothing. You and your friends on here seem to be the hate mongers. Look at the top of the page from yourself amyleoness, You say "What Morons do to the world" You call that Christ like? Your a hiprocrate and reprobate.
@scottwins, I don't have time to name all of the RUDE and inappropriate things Mormons have done to me and my family, and my friends in my life. I live in Utah and I have been treated unfairly and rude because I am a non-mormon. YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!! I don't have time to list them all. You are just like the rest of them.
@amyleoness You must have awful thin skin, since i have done nothing to harm you in anyway, just insist you answer the questions, since you have made such accusation without facts. Have you ever thought it may be you that is the problem. You remind me of a Lady that went to see her son graduate from Army Basic Training during the parade she stood up and said," Look my son is the only one in step!" You may want to get inline pass the relief aid like these good people in this video and quit.
@amyleoness Ah I tought so, you thought you would drop by and chew on a few Mormons for awhile? Sad, I guess you get tired of the Big Bang stuff life coming from a rock in the middle of space. I would as k you one more thing, go to, IN FACT FOR ALL MORMON HATERS ON HERE IF YOU HATE MORMONS GO AND LOOK AT "THE MOST INSPIRING VIDEO I HAVE EVER SEEN"(YES THIS IS THE NAME OF IT JUST TYPE THAT IN THE BAR WHICH IS IN QUOTES) see how hateful Mormons are!
@scottwins2 As if you know me at all. All you have done is push me further away from the Mormon religion. Nice one! I am sure your bishop would be proud of you. Why don't you follow your own 11th article of faith?
@amyleoness I don't know you Amy, you know though that one of the things you have wanted to do on here is promote ill will. You have said nothing that would say otherwise. If you have a question about the gospel why swim around with people who hate it on here. I am sorry if I have offended you. If you have any thoughts of this Church, go read the Book of Mormon each day a bit, even if it is a page or two. You will soften and good feelings will start to come into your life about it. Its true.
@scottwins2 I HAVE ALREADY READ THE BOOK OF MORMON!!. And yes, you have offended me. I dislike the Mormon Church now, even more, after meeting you. Thank you for affirming to me, what I already knew to be true. All of your arguing on here is only turning people further away from your Church. Nice Job!
Thanks for the reply , I got some more update on joseph smith the so called prophet of mormon cult , mr smith had married around 50 wives to produce more White (non sinners) believers for the faith then still the Hunger for more believers Arose so the idea of shagging the followers wives was the next best option and that was fulfilled , but I have to give him the salute as he can be rated the best possible blagger after mr Casanova, also rating himself next to Jesus Christ a pre requisit requir
@GUNADIHENRY I would love to be the philanderer wife stealer Joseph the false prophet... shaggathon... bring it on... would not like to die like a bitch though
@GUNADIHENRY YOUR IGNORANCE PRECEEDS YOU. AGAIN ACCUSATION OF THE MOB AS USUAL. JOSEPH WASA GOOD AND HONORABLE MAN. YOU VOMIT WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD FROM OHTERS IN THE MOB.
Mormons answers to all of their contradictions, lies, etc...I can show hundreds in their own material. The use term switching anytime you try to debate with them. Or poor us "We are nice people, why do you pick on us." We as Christians have a duty to dispell any sheeps in wolves clothing.
Oh and with the tens of Billions of dollars they spend each year they help so much!? Thats like a child at christmas saying how he loves his uncle more than his daddy because he spent more money on him. Pathetic
THE BOOK OF MORMON CONTRADICTS THE BIBLE!! God is perfect He does not contradict Himself, the Mormon book is a lie, Mormons WAKE UP and read the bible.
classic.....its sooooo wonderful how mormons prey on the weak and needy. Leave it to mormons to look at a disaster or crisis as a recruiting tool for their cult.
@fieldmarshal1976 OK, sue us... we used a disaster to help spread the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ; heaven forbid we should look after people's physical AND spiritual well-being. What did YOU do?
@ANAMEHASNOTBEENTAKE If you mormon fakes really cared about selfless acts, you would just go and help these people without publicity and without pushing your cultist agenda on them. How many bibles do you hand out? How many books of mormon do you hand out? Did you hand out any of your special underware or did you just tell them where they can buy some and also give the leaders 10% of their income? You mormons are sickening and if there is really hell, you all will be the first ones there.
@sofaXkingXboss Hey, I'm not saying that your can't join your idiot mormon friends and baptize dead people, make spirit babies for your planet, and follow a cult started by a polygamist traitor to America that died like a rat in jail. You can even share their magic underware. Oh, and hell is a Christian concept that I dont believe in. I have done more to help Americans and America then any mormon. So sofaxkingxboss, you know what you can go do to yourself, right....
@fieldmarshal1976 The members were asked about what they do. It wasn't the members' idea. What exactly did you contribute? Did you go over there personally and help? No? Didn't think so. What's so bad about teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ? Nothing. And how will people that teach of Jesus Christ while helping others be in Hell? You have your stuff backwards.
@majinish You dont get it because are absorbed into their cult. I dont have to explain what I did because that is what SELFLESS acts are. You idiot mormons put on a show that is only meant to do one thing....recruit others into the cult. If you really cared about only helping, you would go and help and not say ONE thing about your LDS trickery. No it is YOU that has it backwards. You can not get into your heaven with acts and showmanship. You mormons use troubled times and disasters as a
@fieldmarshal1976 Great, so you're trying to brainwash me into thinking I'm being brainwashed. Wonderful. And we teach others of Jesus Christ. I'm still trying to figure out how you get "cult" from "religion". There's no "u", "t", or "c" in the word "religion". And please say how teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ is backwards. This I'd love to hear. If you're going to insult Christ's church at least don't say dumb things like you have.
@majinish recruitment tool. Because there are two things that mormons care about....money and recruiting new members into their cult. Everything they do is geared towards tricking money out of people and brainwashing them, which is is the only thing mormons leaders care about. If you really only cared about helping, you would go help and not push your cultist LDS agenga upon them. Try that, if you can, go overseas and help like DWB and not ONCE mention LDS, book of mormon. WAKE UP
@fieldmarshal1976 Sledgehammer, screwdriver, wrench? Oh, you were trying to insult me by calling me a tool. Sorry, that word just doesn't have any definition that regards it as an insult. What we care about is helping others physically and spiritually as someone else on here pointed out. It's ironic how people like you are trying to brainwash people into thinking we brainwash people. I'm awake. You're the one that's not obviously.
@majinish I know you cultists have trouble reading anything other then gold plated lies that were read by a man that was a polygamist and a traitor to America, but I said "RECRUITMENT TOOL" Once again your mormons only read what you want to read, picking and choosing only what benefits your ego. Brainwash? No sir, your cult does most of that baptizing dead people and selling cultist magic underware.
@fieldmarshal1976 And once again, you cant answer the question and avoid it..If you really cared about helping people, why can you NOT push your mormon LDS cultist agenda on them? No, you use misery, confusion and helplessness as an excuse to try to convert new members to your cult. HELP them without saying a word about your so called religion and without passing out books of lies...I mean mormon. But I guess your church would never fund something that isnt a recruitment opportunity. Pathetic...
@fieldmarshal1976 The reason I didn't answer is because we don't have a cultist agenda. I can't answer a question that has misleading and false information. A cultist agenda doesn't exist in Jesus Christ's church. Again, there's no harm in teaching others the gospel of Jesus Christ while helping them with their situations. The only one pathetic is you.
@fieldmarshal1976 Traitor to America? Please. Joseph Smith taught against slavery and that's betraying America? And again, it's a religion. And the gold plates were real and were translated by the power of God. I've seen crap people like you have put on here anyway. It's much like what you've said and it only shows your ignorance.
@majinish To be quite honest with you, I stopped debating with these people a long time ago. They don't want to listen to the message. Satan has twisted their hearts so fully that they simply seek to destroy the Spirit with arguments and to try to abolish the faith of others. This debate should end. Let him stew in his own wicked frustration for a while.
Two days later, Elder Robert D. Hales will address BYU students, staff and faculty in a devotional Tuesday, Sept. 14, at 11:05 a.m. in the Marriott Center.
Both events will be broadcast live on the BYU Broadcasting channels. Visit byub.org for rebroadcast information...
IDAHO FALLS, Idaho (AP) — The children who go to the new school in Sasaram, India, have no idea that the reason they're in class is the inspiration a Jefferson County farm boy drew from a mission to Albania and the bitter lessons he later learned in Brazil.
Testimony reflections: "I began to reflect, Joseph writes, I began to reflect." And taking that theme Val Sederholm also states "I began to reflect" in looking at and sharing various aspects of his testimony and intellectual findings. As an example, in his latest post, he reflects on sections of the Abrahamic Facsimile 2 from the Pearl of Great Price.
While dynastic histories claim to tell the entire story, they actually only deal with the story as it relates to a particular dynastic family. And unlike modern scholarly histories, ancient accounts often served as propaganda to support a particular leader or group. "Others" are peripheral to the main story. In traditional tribal narratives, no one else exists unless it was necessary to mention them with regard to interaction with the tribe.
he Book of Mormon could be referred to as a lineage history, dynastic history or tribal narrative. Like the Hebrew Bible, it is a history of a particular lineage — in this case the Nephite lineage. The Small Plates narrative begins with the account of Lehi and all his children but eventually changes to that of Nephi and his descendants
Despite her monumental creative effort, Teichert was unable, after repeated efforts, to get the illustrations published. She had hoped, Peter B. Gardner writes in BYU Magazine, “that the works might accompany the Book of Mormon text or be used as slides by missionaries or even sold as a book of paintings … but nobody wanted them.” After years of frustration, she donated the murals to Brigham Young University in 1969. Her murals were finally published in a 1997 volume edited by John Welch.
While there is still a long way to go on the project — only $13,000 of the $50,700 needed has been raised — the early June ecumenical effort pushed the project ahead significantly.
“It would have probably taken them about a year to do what we did in a day,” said Dex Andrews, mission leader for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ Highland First Ward, which worked with the Presbyterian church on the project.
A lot of men have been called to be LDS apostles since Joseph Smith’s time. Today, an announcement of a new apostle is big news. In the early days of the LDS Church, many apostles became apostates. Some died, some were dropped over doctrinal disputes. An interesting footnote is the case of Lyman Royal Sherman, who lived and died without ever realizing that he had been called to be an apostle.
The model of the Salt Lake Temple sits in front of a giant window in the South Visitors’ Center facing the actual building that it replicates. The south and east walls of the replica have been cut away to show depictions of many of the rooms in the temple, including the large assembly hall and rooms where the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles meet
“Many people think our temples are like great halls or cathedrals. Actually, they have a number of rooms designed for certain functions such as marriages, baptisms and instructional sessions,” said Elder William R. Walker, executive director of the Church’s Temple Department.
@williamstdog9 How about this. What about having little more than the equivalent of a 4th grade education and writing a book by himself with virtually perfect grammar. Tell me how many people with a fourth grade education you know that can do that.
@williamstdog9: I have a better idea: You denounce Christianity and declare yourself an anti-Mormon through, and through, and I'll answer any question that you might have.
You've nothing to lose, and we can discuss your accusations without your pretend Christian beliefs getting in the way.
@DrCaustic Forgive me please. I am not anti-Mormon. I am anti-Mormonism. I am against the false anti-BIblical doctrines, and lies and deception in the church, NOT against the people. I love the Mormon people and always enjoy proper dialogue when possible!
@williamstdog9 : You are forgiven, but you're still an anti-Mormon. You are against everything that is LDS, NOT against what is anti-Biblical. You love your rationalized lifestyle, and that is pretty much it. The Bible is not your friend.
@williamstdog9 you know absolutely NOTHING about this church. We do NOT denouce jesus christ as our saviour in any way. In fact, the poper name for the chuch is The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. ALL of the crap you spweing is probably from rumor and lies on the internet. If you REALLY want to knwo the truth, TALK TO MEMBERS, MISSIONARIES OR GO TO THEIR CHURCH MEETINGS!
@braveschik29 Time to visit UTLM.org and learn some facts about the religion you have been lied to about. I have 400 characters with which to write here. Do you really want me to go into LDS history and the doctrines that you should know? Which of these topics would you like to discuss on here: Joseph's 33 (secret) wives? Brig Young's theories about Genesis? Joseph's treasure hunting scams? Racist quotes from early church fathers re: negro's? God was a man theory? Smith-Masonic ties? You choose.
@williamstdog9 You're a good guy, it's a shame to see you arguing and bringing up points, some true, others false. If you're trying to "save" mormons from going to hell, then thank you, but shouldn't you check out both sides? You are a smart guy, try looking up some of these same topics on pro-mormon sites, or from pro-mormon sources as you already have the anti side. Then you will have a fair and balanced knowledge to choose. If you decide against still, your choice, but let me choose too.
@dekidd007 Why can't someone just address specific points with me here?
I'm begging, pleading with a Mormon to just refute any of the points raised.
Why won't anyone accept the challenge?
Thanks for the compliment - and you're right about my agenda! I'm not hiding anything - nor ever will! I believe in a litteral Hell, and Mormons don't.
Joe's own family was divided.. until he came up with Three heavens and no hell!
Please - if i'm wrong about any single point - y wont anyone address them?
@williamstdog9 We probably don't argue them because we are afraid that you won't listen to our argument, or have something else to bash back with (figure I'll be honest), but here's a go. Polygamy was a revelation (requires faith). Brig Young's theories about Genesis. Brigham was a deep guy. Give me a specific example. Joseph's treasure hunting scams. False, he was hired to help people. Get his side. Racist quotes from early church fathers re: negro's. Joseph loved negros. Others may not have
But everyone has their choice. Even prophets in the bible weren't perfect (ie, Moses got reprimanded a lot. They repent and correct what they say. Elder McConkie did.) Racist quotes from early church fathers re: negro's? God was a man theory. There are scriptures in the bible to back this (and some against, so you decide) Smith-Masonic ties: so what? Masons can be great people just seeking for more knowledge. They don't destroy religion.
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Good Job Mormons. We need more programs similar to yours :). Doesn't make your beliefs true though =/. I'd like to see LDS headquarters release what percentage of their $ goes to humanitarianism, and what percentage of $ goes to PR about their humanitarianism. :P
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Lets see the title of this video is what do mormons do to the world.. I'll tell you what they do, they pollute this world with their blasphemy and lies and trashing Jesus Christ name by putting joseph smith above Jesus
@chainsticks88 ...Way off!! Know what ur talkin about before ya open that hole under ur nose...go surf some vids ya like an stop speadin negativity..I grow tired of u people who hear one bad thing an base ur whole judgement of somethin as sacred as the Saviors church in a vile and ignorant way. If I disagree wit sumthin I keep it to myself I dont go try to push my opinions an spread just plain stupidness to everyone...
@TrickTrolan Oh and you mormons especially from utah may not like that we Americans express our freedom of speech.. and this is why you mormons are compared to the muslim terrorist in your mind thinking.. let me tell you this asshole you people will abide by our rules and we will SAY what we FEEL.. I wont keep anything to myself if you mormons dont like it LEAVE this country
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@TrickTrolan A mormon trying to piss off a religion of 1.5 Billion members to the mormons 13 million satanic cult members in which only 4 million are active anyway.. a mormon pushing a Catholic is like poking at a hornets nest, so keep pushing
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@TrickTrolan Now days the only converts to the LSD church are from countries where the average education level is about the third grade. What's your excuse?
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@TrickTrolan I hate to tell you but expressing opinions is protected by the Constitution under the First Amendment. Of course that's why Mormons want Mitt Romney in the white house so the Mormon church can start changing the Constitution to the benefit of their religion and to the detriment of the rest of our freedoms.
@MormonUnApologist If ya dont like the vid move on an spread ur hate an disbelief somewhere else...geez its that simple, u guyz who come to these sights with ur negative comments an apparent hate for the Saviors church look like nuthin but ignorant fools. Dont send me comments anymore i dont care ta hear anything u have to say
@TrickTrolan First of all it's not the church that Christ founded, sorry. It's one Joseph Smith created from all kinds of other religious sources. If you want to believe it is "the one true church" it's your right to do so and share that with others, but it is also the right of those who disagree to publicly share their view as well. That's what this country is. If you don't like it, move somewhere else, or just bury your head in the sand and use the block function.
@MormonUnApologist I learned of the truthfulness of The Saviors great church from the Savior himself thru many many hrs of SINCERE prayer an scripture study( from the BIBLE an THE BOOK OF MORMON)..so by the things u say on here ur calling the Savior himself a liar.Ur researching things said or written by imperfect beings an tryin to mix it with man's logic to make some sorta sense outta what we have learned from whatever education background we've gained here on earth. Ask an ye shall recieve!!
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@TrickTrolan Funny. What you accuse me of doing is exactly what Joe Smith did. And its Joe I'm calling the liar, not Jesus! But if you really did study the Bible and compare it to the BoM you would know that Mormonism is neither Christian nor is it the church Christ established. You only think that because you've been taught to think that and associate emotions as being spiritual witnesses of the truth of Mormonism. A cult programming tactic.
@MormonUnApologist If u said 2+2=6 u woulda been more right than ur last reply was. I know the difference between feelin emotions and feelin the Holy Ghost. He comes upon u like none other feeling u could comprehend, or even compare to anything on this earth. U would have to of just crawled out from under a rock if u think a person w/nomore than a 3rd grade education could right the Book of Mormon! Read it an do what it says in Moroni 10:vs3-5 SINCERELY.. u have everythin to gain an 0 to lose!!
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@TrickTrolan You obviously don't know much about the life of Joseph Smith then. I know people with less than a high school education who become some of the wealthiest and successful businessmen in the country. You can't tell me some country bumpkin couldn't have created that religious work of fiction. It's a logical fallacy the church has promoted for years to give additional credibility to Joe Smith.
So how do you distinguish the feelings differently?
@eDrifter1 Reading The Bible and orThe Book of Mormon,then using ur own imperfect and mortal logic to determine whether it's contents are true or not, is purely an undeniably impossible!! Read the Book of Mormon, from front to back, with a sincere intent to know of it's truthfulness..then go to a quiet place where u can kneel an pray in peace, an ask Our beloved Heavenly Father in the name of Jesus Christ, if what u have read is the truth. U will FEEL when the answer is bestowed unto you!
@eDrifter1 And yes I have read and do believe in The Bible also!! The Bible an Book of Mormon(who's contents were saved for us in these last days)are companions to one and the other! The fullness of the Gospel is found in both combined. Again..read The Book of Mormon, I promise ya you won't be struck by lightin! Any negative thoughts u may get about reading it's contents, which u may have had already, are bein put there by the cunning one..the adversary himself. Trust in our Father who loves us!
@MormonUnApologist . Not all Mormons wanted Mitt Romney in at the presidency. I am Mormon and I am pretty much a Democrat. Did John F. Kennedy change the constitution to the benefit of the Roman Catholic religion? I don't think so. Last time I checked he sent a man to the moon and raised respect for Americans everywhere.
The evidence both for the asides and for the outline from which they diverged comes in the way he returns to his task. In order to reset his narrative to the outline, Mormon repeated at least the idea, and often much of the language, of the last part of the outline before the departure.
Members have had to limit their activities, which is a shame and insane to be honest," Trent said. "Even the temple hours have been adjusted to the needs of the members."
Despite the violent circumstances and risks, Trent Hatch said members will continue attending the temple.
"Up to date we have had relatively no problems. Members of the church are determined to continue going and doing temple work," he said.
The funeral will take place this weekend, Trent Hatch said.
Thus, our relationships with other people, our capacity to recognize and act in accordance with truth, and our ability to obey the principles and ordinances of the gospel of Jesus Christ are amplified through our physical bodies. In the classroom of mortality, we experience tenderness, love, kindness, happiness, sorrow, disappointment, pain, and even the challenges of physical limitations in ways that prepare us for eternity
Our physical bodies make possible a breadth, a depth, and an intensity of experience that simply could not be obtained in our premortal estate. President Boyd K. Packer has taught, Our spirit and our body are combined in such a way that our body becomes an instrument of our mind and the foundation of our character
"The negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concerned, ...but this inequality is not of man's origin. it is the Lord's doing, is based on his eternal laws of justice, and grows out of the lack of spiritual valiance of those concerned in their first estate." Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 527 - 528
Products such as rice and beans are bought locally where they are available. Transportation is terrible along the congested, broken roads, but that situation is beginning to smooth out.
True to patterns already established in the Church, priesthood leaders request what they need for their members and the Church delivers. What is distributed each night is determined by those requests.
Members, who are receiving this help, load and unload the food each night and help to distribute it as part of their welfare contribution.
There are 18,000 Church members in Haiti, divided into 27 congregations, two stakes and two districts. Before the earthquake, the Church was in the process of creating a third stake in Haiti, something that may be delayed now as the leaders respond to the more pressing crisis.
Thats really funny that black people are in this because last time I checked you believe that black people were cursed by God in Heaven & return to Heaven as slaves.
Rates of sexually transmitted disease are rising in both Utah and America, but Utah has one-tenth the syphilis rate of America, one-sixth the gonorrhea rate and 60 percent the chlamydia rate
The number of patients is starting to dwindle, while the most acute cases brought to the clinics are being transferred to local hospitals because surgical procedures in the makeshift clinic could lead to more serious problems with infection.
Why do the words come off the page of scripture and go directly into my heart when others are almost indifferent about this sacred book? Why have I been willing to make sacred covenants through baptism, make covenants in the temple, and—for many of you—serve a mission?
May we ever remember the lesson of Kirtland and hold on a little longer—even when things look bleak. Know and remember this: the Lord loves you. He remembers you. And He will ever sustain those who endure in faith to the end (D&C 20:25).
"It's like we're all one big church serving the same people," said Marlene Galewick, homeless representative for the Whittier stake of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
"We believe in service," Galewick said. "These people are down on their luck and when you can't help yourself you need help from other people."
As I look at the yellow cracks in the eagle on my computer screen, I glance down below the eagle's wings. There are faint outlines of a table with stubby legs.
The original Nauvoo Legion may have used the flag. Hartvigsen thinks it is even possible that the flag may have even been used earlier during the Missouri persecutions. Smith family tradition, however, only pushes it back as far as the Nauvoo Temple -- flying over the City of Joseph.
SALT LAKE CITY -- The flag that belongs to Elder Eldred G. Smith, emeritus patriarch to the LDS Church, is not an ordinary American flag. It is a flag that belonged to Brigham Young. It is a flag that was carried by the Mormon Battalion on its trek to California. It is a flag that has a secret -- a secret kept hidden for more than 160 years
I sit at my roll-top computer desk and place a photo CD into the computer. A few clicks on a mouse and photographs of the patriarch's flag appear on the screen. They are stunning. Welden C. Andersen, who photographs documents for the Joseph Smith Papers, used a 39-megapixel Hasselblad camera to take the pictures. Every fiber and paint stroke on the old flag are sharp and bright.
oh yah the MORmON Battalion the deal where Brigham Young played the LDS members, as he volunteered them to go off to war with out their knowledge & when the army showed up for the recruits scum bag Briggy pretended like he had no idea it was coming but insisted on complying any way to get the MONEY!
What an SCUMBAG! US GOv docs prove what I am saying! Go ahead & deny it you braindead POS MORmON.
"You might not think any of these experiences to be particularly impressive, but to me they have had a very profound influence on my life that persists to this day," President Samuelson said. "I am grateful for them and especially for the lessons learned and the principles taught by this great prophet."
"It was a tremendous moment in my life because I knew then better than ever before that he truly was the Lord's prophet and we, as young, inexperienced and unpolished missionaries, were really on the Lord's errand.
John S. Tanner, left, Brigham Young University academic vice president, talks with Brigham Young University President Cecil O. Samuelson, right and his wife Sharon Samuelson.
One experience President Samuelson spoke of happened when he was a missionary in Scotland. President McKay was visiting with missionaries when a group of reporters barged into the room. Asking if he was a true prophet, President McKay responded, "Look me in the eyes. Can you tell me that I am not a prophet?"
President Samuelson told of President McKay's association with his grandfather, Joseph Mitchell, as they served a mission to Scotland at the same time. He told of multiple experiences as a young Mormon missionary meeting President McKay, and the impact each encounter had on his own life.
and what ever amount LDS INc spent on aid they spent 20 times that making sure it was highly publicized to maintain their BS tax exempt status and 1000 times more on their real estate speculation. projects. phonies!
my exit from MORmONISM was largely facilitated with the realization that even if there was a celestial kingDUMB I had no interest in going there & being around MORmONS like you. yes Hell is s huge step up if it means getting away from the LDS!
"lying for the lord" ...not taught by LDS Church. But, thanks for playing: "I Don't know What I'm Talking About, But I Love seeing my Dumb Comments On Youtube!---Hi Mom!"
These kind folks reach out to people in need and help them more than any government agency could or ever would! Regardless of religion or race, we need more people like them in the world today. It's a wonderful thing they do!
Latter Day Saints are in NO WAY predudice to ANY race...if you've run into any it's a shame...I say to you the religion is perfect but it's members,,,just like the whole human race,,,, are not. Those who practice it's teachings and live by it's precepts would never fathom having ill will towards any person...don't take out of context what bitter words or hearsay some few may have towards The Saviors Church..ask our Father in Heaven yourself that u be shown the truth.
@Cheshu1 Why did everyone in those days use the "N" word? At that time, it was not considered a derogatory word.
allmetal71 5 months ago
"Therefore, dearly beloved brethren, let us cheerfully do all things that lie in our power; and then may we stand still, with the utmost assurance, to see the salvation of God, and for his arm to be revealed." Joseph Smith Jr.
scottwins2 6 months ago
"I would that ye should come unto Christ, who is the Holy One of Israel, and partake of his salvation, and the power of his redemption. Yea, come unto him, and offer your whole souls as an offering unto him, and continue in fasting and praying, and endure to the end; and as the Lord liveth ye will be saved." Joseph Smith Jr.
scottwins2 6 months ago
"Shall we not go on in such great a cause?" "A man filled with the love of God, is not content with blessing his family alone, but ranges through the whole world, anxious to bless the whole human race."
— Joseph Smith Jr.
scottwins2 6 months ago
@omiolo actually, my God brought me out of mormonism and into the arms of Jesus Christ. Funny how you all disregard the false prophesies of JS that PROVE he is NOT a prophet of God! Deut. 18:22
TheChristiankat 6 months ago
I was thinking of the Peanuts character Linus Van Pelt this week freezing in his pumpkin patch waiting patiently for the Great Pumpkin to appear on Halloween and it never does.
I thought of Linus because I sometimes think that the makers of Broadway's hit, award-winning musical about the Book of Mormon think of my faith the way I think of Linus' belief.
omiolo 6 months ago
There's a substantial list of LDS Church members who have been on a national reality show. This list includes David Archuleta, Carmen Rasmussen and Brooke White on "American Idol." Don't forget Tyson Apostal on two seasons of .
omiolo 6 months ago
ABC's new reality show 'Expedition Impossible' to feature two LDS contenders
Deseret News
omiolo 6 months ago
Joseph Smith and Bringem Young make me sick !!!! liars and blasphemers!
TheChristiankat 7 months ago
@TheChristiankat "Bringem Young"
thanks for the RELIGIOUS slur, did your god teach you to do that?
omiolo 6 months ago
The important consideration is not how long we can live but how well we can learn the lesson of life, and discharge our duties and obligations to God and to one another." Joseph Smith Jr. Service, try it sometime.
scottwins2 7 months ago
Using the Bible to prove that the Book of Mormon is true, is like using "Pinnochio" to prove that "Cinderella" is true. Both Fantasy. Both Stories. Both Fiction.
amyleoness 10 months ago
@amyleoness ATHEISIST!!!!
BEASTIEBOY1999 8 months ago
@BEASTIEBOY1999 LOL... What labels might I pin on you? Plenty...
amyleoness 8 months ago
@BEASTIEBOY1999 I SAY YOU IGNORANT
scottwins2 7 months ago
@amyleoness ITS CONVIENT FOR YOU TO AKE A STATEMENT, HIT AND RUN SO TO SPEAK. WHERE ARE FACTS? YOU ACCUSE BUT NO FACTS. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US POOR MORMONS.
scottwins2 7 months ago
The money spent on those huge temples could probably provide food and education for a couple of million kids.. But hey, god needs some new buildings..
KmanMonkeyPig 10 months ago
What Morons Do To The World!
amyleoness 10 months ago
@amyleoness PLEASE TELL US WHAT WE DO TO THE WORLD? WHAT IS IT THAT SO INFLAMES YOUR HEARTS TOWARDS LDS PEOPLE? I SEE NO DIFFERENCE THAN THE MOB HERE. Wuld you have crucified Moses when he came down off the mount? Your like the Saducees and Pharsies ofold, no difference whatsoever. None.
scottwins2 7 months ago
@scottwins2 "Inflames my hearts" ?? As if I have two hearts? "Wuld" I have crucified Moses? You are a joke. Learn to spell.
amyleoness 6 months ago
@amyleoness Oh, excuse me for my typo's that must have put a kink in your day. You may want to It not Moron Amyleoness its Mormon. Why don't you answer the questions above. What is it the inflames you and the mob so?
scottwins2 6 months ago
@scottwins2 . Too many things to list, most of all it amazes me how non-christlike "Christians" like yourself act.
amyleoness 6 months ago
@amyleoness You won't answer and all you do is accuse. I have done nothing to you, I have ask several questions which you refuse to answer. If you look at what was said you were the one that was rude actually.
You have given no facts, no useful information, nothing. You and your friends on here seem to be the hate mongers. Look at the top of the page from yourself amyleoness, You say "What Morons do to the world" You call that Christ like? Your a hiprocrate and reprobate.
scottwins2 6 months ago
@scottwins, I don't have time to name all of the RUDE and inappropriate things Mormons have done to me and my family, and my friends in my life. I live in Utah and I have been treated unfairly and rude because I am a non-mormon. YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!! I don't have time to list them all. You are just like the rest of them.
amyleoness 6 months ago
@amyleoness You must have awful thin skin, since i have done nothing to harm you in anyway, just insist you answer the questions, since you have made such accusation without facts. Have you ever thought it may be you that is the problem. You remind me of a Lady that went to see her son graduate from Army Basic Training during the parade she stood up and said," Look my son is the only one in step!" You may want to get inline pass the relief aid like these good people in this video and quit.
scottwins2 6 months ago
@scottwins2 P.S. I don't need to act "christlike" because I don't believe in religion at ALL... nice try though.
amyleoness 6 months ago
@amyleoness Ah I tought so, you thought you would drop by and chew on a few Mormons for awhile? Sad, I guess you get tired of the Big Bang stuff life coming from a rock in the middle of space. I would as k you one more thing, go to, IN FACT FOR ALL MORMON HATERS ON HERE IF YOU HATE MORMONS GO AND LOOK AT "THE MOST INSPIRING VIDEO I HAVE EVER SEEN"(YES THIS IS THE NAME OF IT JUST TYPE THAT IN THE BAR WHICH IS IN QUOTES) see how hateful Mormons are!
scottwins2 6 months ago
@scottwins2 You have no idea what I believe in, but nice try. You are joke to me.
amyleoness 6 months ago
@amyleoness Hard video to watch,hey, Amy?
scottwins2 6 months ago
@scottwins2 LOL. Not HARD to watch, more like comical. Such a great SALES video.. RELIGION FOR SALE!!!
amyleoness 6 months ago
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scottwins2 6 months ago
@scottwins2 , well I call you an asshole.
amyleoness 6 months ago
@amyleoness The true Amy comes out.
scottwins2 6 months ago
@scottwins2 As if you know me at all. All you have done is push me further away from the Mormon religion. Nice one! I am sure your bishop would be proud of you. Why don't you follow your own 11th article of faith?
amyleoness 6 months ago
@amyleoness I don't know you Amy, you know though that one of the things you have wanted to do on here is promote ill will. You have said nothing that would say otherwise. If you have a question about the gospel why swim around with people who hate it on here. I am sorry if I have offended you. If you have any thoughts of this Church, go read the Book of Mormon each day a bit, even if it is a page or two. You will soften and good feelings will start to come into your life about it. Its true.
scottwins2 6 months ago
@scottwins2 I HAVE ALREADY READ THE BOOK OF MORMON!!. And yes, you have offended me. I dislike the Mormon Church now, even more, after meeting you. Thank you for affirming to me, what I already knew to be true. All of your arguing on here is only turning people further away from your Church. Nice Job!
amyleoness 6 months ago
@amyleoness : On your page it says you want to "envite" people, it's INVITE. Try gaining an education, it will really help you in life.
amyleoness 6 months ago
Thanks for the reply , I got some more update on joseph smith the so called prophet of mormon cult , mr smith had married around 50 wives to produce more White (non sinners) believers for the faith then still the Hunger for more believers Arose so the idea of shagging the followers wives was the next best option and that was fulfilled , but I have to give him the salute as he can be rated the best possible blagger after mr Casanova, also rating himself next to Jesus Christ a pre requisit requir
GUNADIHENRY 10 months ago
@GUNADIHENRY I would love to be the philanderer wife stealer Joseph the false prophet... shaggathon... bring it on... would not like to die like a bitch though
whoareyapauldunn 10 months ago
@GUNADIHENRY YOUR IGNORANCE PRECEEDS YOU. AGAIN ACCUSATION OF THE MOB AS USUAL. JOSEPH WASA GOOD AND HONORABLE MAN. YOU VOMIT WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD FROM OHTERS IN THE MOB.
scottwins2 7 months ago
im a mormon, mr hater, have you ever gone to church?
tuchdoun 11 months ago
@tuchdoun your mum should have aborted your retarded arse.
whoareyapauldunn 10 months ago
@tuchdoun i have been to a real church, hindu temple and mosque - i aint going to a man made cult church.
whoareyapauldunn 10 months ago
Mormons answers to all of their contradictions, lies, etc...I can show hundreds in their own material. The use term switching anytime you try to debate with them. Or poor us "We are nice people, why do you pick on us." We as Christians have a duty to dispell any sheeps in wolves clothing.
angelcitydarkroom 11 months ago
Oh and with the tens of Billions of dollars they spend each year they help so much!? Thats like a child at christmas saying how he loves his uncle more than his daddy because he spent more money on him. Pathetic
crazy456eyes 1 year ago
Today I would like to invite you to “be … an example of the believers … in faith [and] in purity” 5 —two principles required for salvation.
omiolo 1 year ago
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THE BOOK OF MORMON CONTRADICTS THE BIBLE!! God is perfect He does not contradict Himself, the Mormon book is a lie, Mormons WAKE UP and read the bible.
imationqwest 1 year ago
hey how about you change "TO" to "FOR"
pancakewafflebacon 1 year ago
I love Heavenly Father!
ELoveSquadUp 1 year ago
Notice that boxes and cans are well labeled with the best labels money can buy....
Could it be prapoganda.............nah.........
drowsy4 1 year ago
Notice that boxes and cans are well labeled with the best labels money can buy....
drowsy4 1 year ago
classic.....its sooooo wonderful how mormons prey on the weak and needy. Leave it to mormons to look at a disaster or crisis as a recruiting tool for their cult.
fieldmarshal1976 1 year ago
@fieldmarshal1976 OK, sue us... we used a disaster to help spread the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ; heaven forbid we should look after people's physical AND spiritual well-being. What did YOU do?
ANAMEHASNOTBEENTAKE 1 year ago
@ANAMEHASNOTBEENTAKE If you mormon fakes really cared about selfless acts, you would just go and help these people without publicity and without pushing your cultist agenda on them. How many bibles do you hand out? How many books of mormon do you hand out? Did you hand out any of your special underware or did you just tell them where they can buy some and also give the leaders 10% of their income? You mormons are sickening and if there is really hell, you all will be the first ones there.
fieldmarshal1976 1 year ago
@fieldmarshal1976 See you there.
ANAMEHASNOTBEENTAKE 1 year ago
@fieldmarshal1976 you make me sick. Hope you burn in Hell. I know great mormons, you selfish bitch.
sofaXkingXboss 1 year ago
@sofaXkingXboss
fieldmarshal1976 1 year ago
@sofaXkingXboss Hey, I'm not saying that your can't join your idiot mormon friends and baptize dead people, make spirit babies for your planet, and follow a cult started by a polygamist traitor to America that died like a rat in jail. You can even share their magic underware. Oh, and hell is a Christian concept that I dont believe in. I have done more to help Americans and America then any mormon. So sofaxkingxboss, you know what you can go do to yourself, right....
fieldmarshal1976 1 year ago
@fieldmarshal1976 The members were asked about what they do. It wasn't the members' idea. What exactly did you contribute? Did you go over there personally and help? No? Didn't think so. What's so bad about teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ? Nothing. And how will people that teach of Jesus Christ while helping others be in Hell? You have your stuff backwards.
majinish 1 year ago
@majinish You dont get it because are absorbed into their cult. I dont have to explain what I did because that is what SELFLESS acts are. You idiot mormons put on a show that is only meant to do one thing....recruit others into the cult. If you really cared about only helping, you would go and help and not say ONE thing about your LDS trickery. No it is YOU that has it backwards. You can not get into your heaven with acts and showmanship. You mormons use troubled times and disasters as a
fieldmarshal1976 1 year ago
@fieldmarshal1976 Great, so you're trying to brainwash me into thinking I'm being brainwashed. Wonderful. And we teach others of Jesus Christ. I'm still trying to figure out how you get "cult" from "religion". There's no "u", "t", or "c" in the word "religion". And please say how teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ is backwards. This I'd love to hear. If you're going to insult Christ's church at least don't say dumb things like you have.
majinish 1 year ago
@majinish recruitment tool. Because there are two things that mormons care about....money and recruiting new members into their cult. Everything they do is geared towards tricking money out of people and brainwashing them, which is is the only thing mormons leaders care about. If you really only cared about helping, you would go help and not push your cultist LDS agenga upon them. Try that, if you can, go overseas and help like DWB and not ONCE mention LDS, book of mormon. WAKE UP
fieldmarshal1976 1 year ago
@fieldmarshal1976 Sledgehammer, screwdriver, wrench? Oh, you were trying to insult me by calling me a tool. Sorry, that word just doesn't have any definition that regards it as an insult. What we care about is helping others physically and spiritually as someone else on here pointed out. It's ironic how people like you are trying to brainwash people into thinking we brainwash people. I'm awake. You're the one that's not obviously.
majinish 1 year ago
@majinish I know you cultists have trouble reading anything other then gold plated lies that were read by a man that was a polygamist and a traitor to America, but I said "RECRUITMENT TOOL" Once again your mormons only read what you want to read, picking and choosing only what benefits your ego. Brainwash? No sir, your cult does most of that baptizing dead people and selling cultist magic underware.
fieldmarshal1976 1 year ago
@fieldmarshal1976 And once again, you cant answer the question and avoid it..If you really cared about helping people, why can you NOT push your mormon LDS cultist agenda on them? No, you use misery, confusion and helplessness as an excuse to try to convert new members to your cult. HELP them without saying a word about your so called religion and without passing out books of lies...I mean mormon. But I guess your church would never fund something that isnt a recruitment opportunity. Pathetic...
fieldmarshal1976 1 year ago
@fieldmarshal1976 The reason I didn't answer is because we don't have a cultist agenda. I can't answer a question that has misleading and false information. A cultist agenda doesn't exist in Jesus Christ's church. Again, there's no harm in teaching others the gospel of Jesus Christ while helping them with their situations. The only one pathetic is you.
majinish 1 year ago
@fieldmarshal1976 Not exactly a fan of facts, are you?
JackNimble61 1 year ago 2
@fieldmarshal1976 Traitor to America? Please. Joseph Smith taught against slavery and that's betraying America? And again, it's a religion. And the gold plates were real and were translated by the power of God. I've seen crap people like you have put on here anyway. It's much like what you've said and it only shows your ignorance.
majinish 1 year ago
@majinish To be quite honest with you, I stopped debating with these people a long time ago. They don't want to listen to the message. Satan has twisted their hearts so fully that they simply seek to destroy the Spirit with arguments and to try to abolish the faith of others. This debate should end. Let him stew in his own wicked frustration for a while.
brigmahf 11 months ago 2
@brigmahf hey its worth a good fecking laugh!
whoareyapauldunn 10 months ago
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Armornone 1 year ago
Two days later, Elder Robert D. Hales will address BYU students, staff and faculty in a devotional Tuesday, Sept. 14, at 11:05 a.m. in the Marriott Center.
Both events will be broadcast live on the BYU Broadcasting channels. Visit byub.org for rebroadcast information...
omiolo 1 year ago
IDAHO FALLS, Idaho (AP) — The children who go to the new school in Sasaram, India, have no idea that the reason they're in class is the inspiration a Jefferson County farm boy drew from a mission to Albania and the bitter lessons he later learned in Brazil.
omiolo 1 year ago
Former LDS missionary continues helping poor
omiolo 1 year ago
Testimony reflections: "I began to reflect, Joseph writes, I began to reflect." And taking that theme Val Sederholm also states "I began to reflect" in looking at and sharing various aspects of his testimony and intellectual findings. As an example, in his latest post, he reflects on sections of the Abrahamic Facsimile 2 from the Pearl of Great Price.
omiolo 1 year ago
While dynastic histories claim to tell the entire story, they actually only deal with the story as it relates to a particular dynastic family. And unlike modern scholarly histories, ancient accounts often served as propaganda to support a particular leader or group. "Others" are peripheral to the main story. In traditional tribal narratives, no one else exists unless it was necessary to mention them with regard to interaction with the tribe.
omiolo 1 year ago
he Book of Mormon could be referred to as a lineage history, dynastic history or tribal narrative. Like the Hebrew Bible, it is a history of a particular lineage — in this case the Nephite lineage. The Small Plates narrative begins with the account of Lehi and all his children but eventually changes to that of Nephi and his descendants
omiolo 1 year ago
Despite her monumental creative effort, Teichert was unable, after repeated efforts, to get the illustrations published. She had hoped, Peter B. Gardner writes in BYU Magazine, “that the works might accompany the Book of Mormon text or be used as slides by missionaries or even sold as a book of paintings … but nobody wanted them.” After years of frustration, she donated the murals to Brigham Young University in 1969. Her murals were finally published in a 1997 volume edited by John Welch.
omiolo 1 year ago
A new Website for all Religions to Discuss their Differences, - iuchat . com
NashleeSanders21 1 year ago 3
While there is still a long way to go on the project — only $13,000 of the $50,700 needed has been raised — the early June ecumenical effort pushed the project ahead significantly.
“It would have probably taken them about a year to do what we did in a day,” said Dex Andrews, mission leader for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ Highland First Ward, which worked with the Presbyterian church on the project.
omiolo 1 year ago
A lot of men have been called to be LDS apostles since Joseph Smith’s time. Today, an announcement of a new apostle is big news. In the early days of the LDS Church, many apostles became apostates. Some died, some were dropped over doctrinal disputes. An interesting footnote is the case of Lyman Royal Sherman, who lived and died without ever realizing that he had been called to be an apostle.
omiolo 1 year ago
The model of the Salt Lake Temple sits in front of a giant window in the South Visitors’ Center facing the actual building that it replicates. The south and east walls of the replica have been cut away to show depictions of many of the rooms in the temple, including the large assembly hall and rooms where the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles meet
omiolo 1 year ago 2
“Many people think our temples are like great halls or cathedrals. Actually, they have a number of rooms designed for certain functions such as marriages, baptisms and instructional sessions,” said Elder William R. Walker, executive director of the Church’s Temple Department.
omiolo 1 year ago 2
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Quiz time!
Are you guys aware of the seer stone Joseph used to 'translate' BOM?
What about that he was considered the "village magician" and he was a treasure seeker with his dad and uncle.
What about the trial AND CONVICTION of his treasure hunting scams?
What of his many (33) polygamous wives?
True? Or False?
Fact is: BOM = Joke. Entire passages ripped out of KJV Bible (namely Isaiah and the gospels), the rest - pure folklore and fiction!
Don't believe me - look it up!
williamstdog9 1 year ago
@williamstdog9 How about this. What about having little more than the equivalent of a 4th grade education and writing a book by himself with virtually perfect grammar. Tell me how many people with a fourth grade education you know that can do that.
thebluemaggot 1 year ago
@thebluemaggot How bout this: When you answer ANY of the TRUE points I raised first, then I'll be more than happy to answer yours.
Well - do we have a deal?
Or are you going to keep running from the truth and changing the subject?
Its cool - really. Most Mormons can't handle truth
williamstdog9 1 year ago
@williamstdog9: I have a better idea: You denounce Christianity and declare yourself an anti-Mormon through, and through, and I'll answer any question that you might have.
You've nothing to lose, and we can discuss your accusations without your pretend Christian beliefs getting in the way.
DrCaustic 1 year ago
@DrCaustic I am a CHRISTIAN therefore i am anti-Mormon.
Mormons by their own doctrines that are ANTI-BIBLICAL are ANTI-CHRISTIAN.
Interesting: I keep our deals. Why can't you?
williamstdog9 1 year ago
@williamstdog9 : Wrong. You are a pseudo Christian who obsesses over LDS Church history, therefore you are an anti-Mormon.
Anti-Mormons use Christianity to hide their true purposes for the LDS Church.
The only deal between us is contingent on your coming out party. Denounce the Savior and we'll discuss your anti-Mormon opinions.
DrCaustic 1 year ago
@DrCaustic Forgive me please. I am not anti-Mormon. I am anti-Mormonism. I am against the false anti-BIblical doctrines, and lies and deception in the church, NOT against the people. I love the Mormon people and always enjoy proper dialogue when possible!
williamstdog9 1 year ago
@williamstdog9 : You are forgiven, but you're still an anti-Mormon. You are against everything that is LDS, NOT against what is anti-Biblical. You love your rationalized lifestyle, and that is pretty much it. The Bible is not your friend.
Denounce Jesus Christ, and then we can chat.
DrCaustic 1 year ago
@DrCaustic Wow. "Denounce Jesus, Denounce your Saviour." I don't know ANY true Christians who would EVER say such things. Shows whats in your heart.
Whats equally as sad is that you can't/won't/refuse to address 5 simple FACTS about the CULT you belong to:
1. The seer stone Joseph used to 'translate' BOM
2. That Joseph was the "village magician" and a treasure hunter with his dad and uncle
3. The trial AND CONVICTION of his treasure hunting scams?
4. His 33 wives
5. God was a man like us
Byebye
williamstdog9 1 year ago
"Byebye"
Take care. I'll be here when you are ready to make your confession.
DrCaustic 1 year ago
@DrCaustic YES! I knew you would run from facts about the dark side of Mormonism! It's cool - like i said before - most Mormons do.
And remember, I'm not on trial here bud, Your "profit" i mean "prophet" is....
Don't forget to tithe this week!!
williamstdog9 1 year ago
@williamstdog9 : "YES!"
NO! You're still living a lie. Make your confession.
DrCaustic 1 year ago
@williamstdog9 Pearls before the Swine.
Total moron you are.
oldjeepsrule 1 year ago
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@oldjeepsrule Whats sad is that you can't/won't/refuse to address 5 simple FACTS about the CULT you belong to:
1. The seer stone Joseph used to 'translate' BOM
2. That Joseph was the "village magician" and a treasure hunter with his dad and uncle
3. The trial AND CONVICTION of his treasure hunting scams?
4. His 33 wives
5. God was a man like us
These are the pearls friend. I wont say what you are.
Byebye
williamstdog9 1 year ago
@williamstdog9 you know absolutely NOTHING about this church. We do NOT denouce jesus christ as our saviour in any way. In fact, the poper name for the chuch is The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. ALL of the crap you spweing is probably from rumor and lies on the internet. If you REALLY want to knwo the truth, TALK TO MEMBERS, MISSIONARIES OR GO TO THEIR CHURCH MEETINGS!
braveschik29 1 year ago
@braveschik29 What is really tragic is that you refuse to LOOK UP ALL of the FACTS that i have set before you.
It's ok - i know you would get in trouble with the church's authorities...
It's really OK. Facts don't matter to some people.
williamstdog9 1 year ago
williamstdog9 1 year ago
@williamstdog9 You're a good guy, it's a shame to see you arguing and bringing up points, some true, others false. If you're trying to "save" mormons from going to hell, then thank you, but shouldn't you check out both sides? You are a smart guy, try looking up some of these same topics on pro-mormon sites, or from pro-mormon sources as you already have the anti side. Then you will have a fair and balanced knowledge to choose. If you decide against still, your choice, but let me choose too.
dekidd007 1 year ago
@dekidd007 Why can't someone just address specific points with me here?
I'm begging, pleading with a Mormon to just refute any of the points raised.
Why won't anyone accept the challenge?
Thanks for the compliment - and you're right about my agenda! I'm not hiding anything - nor ever will! I believe in a litteral Hell, and Mormons don't.
Joe's own family was divided.. until he came up with Three heavens and no hell!
Please - if i'm wrong about any single point - y wont anyone address them?
williamstdog9 1 year ago
@williamstdog9 We probably don't argue them because we are afraid that you won't listen to our argument, or have something else to bash back with (figure I'll be honest), but here's a go. Polygamy was a revelation (requires faith). Brig Young's theories about Genesis. Brigham was a deep guy. Give me a specific example. Joseph's treasure hunting scams. False, he was hired to help people. Get his side. Racist quotes from early church fathers re: negro's. Joseph loved negros. Others may not have
dekidd007 1 year ago
@williamstdog9
But everyone has their choice. Even prophets in the bible weren't perfect (ie, Moses got reprimanded a lot. They repent and correct what they say. Elder McConkie did.) Racist quotes from early church fathers re: negro's? God was a man theory. There are scriptures in the bible to back this (and some against, so you decide) Smith-Masonic ties: so what? Masons can be great people just seeking for more knowledge. They don't destroy religion.
dekidd007 1 year ago
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Good Job Mormons. We need more programs similar to yours :). Doesn't make your beliefs true though =/. I'd like to see LDS headquarters release what percentage of their $ goes to humanitarianism, and what percentage of $ goes to PR about their humanitarianism. :P
php12345 1 year ago
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This is a shameless PR "plug".
The late dead-dog HInckley...the self-proclaimed "father" of Mormon PR, would have been pleased. What a self-serving group!
Keep putting on that green-jello-covered face, guys!
All your "PR" does is "WOW" the gullible.
(Now, go back and have some more Mormon funeral potatoes: but, don't forget that you cannot have flowers at the funeral. Spuds, yes. Flowers, no.)
orlovna2 1 year ago
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Lets see the title of this video is what do mormons do to the world.. I'll tell you what they do, they pollute this world with their blasphemy and lies and trashing Jesus Christ name by putting joseph smith above Jesus
chainsticks88 1 year ago
@chainsticks88 ...Way off!! Know what ur talkin about before ya open that hole under ur nose...go surf some vids ya like an stop speadin negativity..I grow tired of u people who hear one bad thing an base ur whole judgement of somethin as sacred as the Saviors church in a vile and ignorant way. If I disagree wit sumthin I keep it to myself I dont go try to push my opinions an spread just plain stupidness to everyone...
TrickTrolan 1 year ago 153
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@TrickTrolan Oh and you mormons especially from utah may not like that we Americans express our freedom of speech.. and this is why you mormons are compared to the muslim terrorist in your mind thinking.. let me tell you this asshole you people will abide by our rules and we will SAY what we FEEL.. I wont keep anything to myself if you mormons dont like it LEAVE this country
chainsticks88 1 year ago
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@chainsticks88 AMEN!
MormonUnApologist 1 year ago
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@TrickTrolan A mormon trying to piss off a religion of 1.5 Billion members to the mormons 13 million satanic cult members in which only 4 million are active anyway.. a mormon pushing a Catholic is like poking at a hornets nest, so keep pushing
chainsticks88 1 year ago
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@TrickTrolan Now days the only converts to the LSD church are from countries where the average education level is about the third grade. What's your excuse?
ironchip1 1 year ago
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@TrickTrolan I hate to tell you but expressing opinions is protected by the Constitution under the First Amendment. Of course that's why Mormons want Mitt Romney in the white house so the Mormon church can start changing the Constitution to the benefit of their religion and to the detriment of the rest of our freedoms.
MormonUnApologist 1 year ago
@MormonUnApologist If ya dont like the vid move on an spread ur hate an disbelief somewhere else...geez its that simple, u guyz who come to these sights with ur negative comments an apparent hate for the Saviors church look like nuthin but ignorant fools. Dont send me comments anymore i dont care ta hear anything u have to say
TrickTrolan 1 year ago 26
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@TrickTrolan First of all it's not the church that Christ founded, sorry. It's one Joseph Smith created from all kinds of other religious sources. If you want to believe it is "the one true church" it's your right to do so and share that with others, but it is also the right of those who disagree to publicly share their view as well. That's what this country is. If you don't like it, move somewhere else, or just bury your head in the sand and use the block function.
MormonUnApologist 1 year ago
@MormonUnApologist I learned of the truthfulness of The Saviors great church from the Savior himself thru many many hrs of SINCERE prayer an scripture study( from the BIBLE an THE BOOK OF MORMON)..so by the things u say on here ur calling the Savior himself a liar.Ur researching things said or written by imperfect beings an tryin to mix it with man's logic to make some sorta sense outta what we have learned from whatever education background we've gained here on earth. Ask an ye shall recieve!!
TrickTrolan 1 year ago 38
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@TrickTrolan Funny. What you accuse me of doing is exactly what Joe Smith did. And its Joe I'm calling the liar, not Jesus! But if you really did study the Bible and compare it to the BoM you would know that Mormonism is neither Christian nor is it the church Christ established. You only think that because you've been taught to think that and associate emotions as being spiritual witnesses of the truth of Mormonism. A cult programming tactic.
MormonUnApologist 1 year ago
@MormonUnApologist If u said 2+2=6 u woulda been more right than ur last reply was. I know the difference between feelin emotions and feelin the Holy Ghost. He comes upon u like none other feeling u could comprehend, or even compare to anything on this earth. U would have to of just crawled out from under a rock if u think a person w/nomore than a 3rd grade education could right the Book of Mormon! Read it an do what it says in Moroni 10:vs3-5 SINCERELY.. u have everythin to gain an 0 to lose!!
TrickTrolan 1 year ago 41
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@TrickTrolan You obviously don't know much about the life of Joseph Smith then. I know people with less than a high school education who become some of the wealthiest and successful businessmen in the country. You can't tell me some country bumpkin couldn't have created that religious work of fiction. It's a logical fallacy the church has promoted for years to give additional credibility to Joe Smith.
So how do you distinguish the feelings differently?
MormonUnApologist 1 year ago
@TrickTrolan
I learned the truth from the Bible alone, not the book of mormon.
eDrifter1 1 year ago
@eDrifter1 which one of the Bibles, since they are ALL different and many of them have different books?
omiolo 1 year ago
@eDrifter1 Reading The Bible and orThe Book of Mormon,then using ur own imperfect and mortal logic to determine whether it's contents are true or not, is purely an undeniably impossible!! Read the Book of Mormon, from front to back, with a sincere intent to know of it's truthfulness..then go to a quiet place where u can kneel an pray in peace, an ask Our beloved Heavenly Father in the name of Jesus Christ, if what u have read is the truth. U will FEEL when the answer is bestowed unto you!
TrickTrolan 1 year ago 19
@TrickTrolan
I dont trust in warm fuzzies.
But thank you for what appears to be genuine concern.
I will not bother you anymore, I'm sorry I wrote a comment to you a week ago.
Respectfully, please have a nice life.
eDrifter1 1 year ago
@eDrifter1 And yes I have read and do believe in The Bible also!! The Bible an Book of Mormon(who's contents were saved for us in these last days)are companions to one and the other! The fullness of the Gospel is found in both combined. Again..read The Book of Mormon, I promise ya you won't be struck by lightin! Any negative thoughts u may get about reading it's contents, which u may have had already, are bein put there by the cunning one..the adversary himself. Trust in our Father who loves us!
TrickTrolan 1 year ago 18
@MormonUnApologist . Not all Mormons wanted Mitt Romney in at the presidency. I am Mormon and I am pretty much a Democrat. Did John F. Kennedy change the constitution to the benefit of the Roman Catholic religion? I don't think so. Last time I checked he sent a man to the moon and raised respect for Americans everywhere.
MrShiney01 1 year ago
The evidence both for the asides and for the outline from which they diverged comes in the way he returns to his task. In order to reset his narrative to the outline, Mormon repeated at least the idea, and often much of the language, of the last part of the outline before the departure.
omiolo 1 year ago
Members have had to limit their activities, which is a shame and insane to be honest," Trent said. "Even the temple hours have been adjusted to the needs of the members."
Despite the violent circumstances and risks, Trent Hatch said members will continue attending the temple.
"Up to date we have had relatively no problems. Members of the church are determined to continue going and doing temple work," he said.
The funeral will take place this weekend, Trent Hatch said.
omiolo 1 year ago
Thus, our relationships with other people, our capacity to recognize and act in accordance with truth, and our ability to obey the principles and ordinances of the gospel of Jesus Christ are amplified through our physical bodies. In the classroom of mortality, we experience tenderness, love, kindness, happiness, sorrow, disappointment, pain, and even the challenges of physical limitations in ways that prepare us for eternity
omiolo 1 year ago
Our physical bodies make possible a breadth, a depth, and an intensity of experience that simply could not be obtained in our premortal estate. President Boyd K. Packer has taught, Our spirit and our body are combined in such a way that our body becomes an instrument of our mind and the foundation of our character
omiolo 1 year ago
"The negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concerned, ...but this inequality is not of man's origin. it is the Lord's doing, is based on his eternal laws of justice, and grows out of the lack of spiritual valiance of those concerned in their first estate." Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 527 - 528
thesignsoflife7 1 year ago
@thesignsoflife7
You EVANGELICALS declared that blacks did NOT have souls!
But hey, that is why you should NOT learn EVANGELICAL history!
omiolo 1 year ago
Meridian Magazine
February 9, 2010
You're invited. The Fifth Annual Nauvoo Women's Retreat will be held March 25 and 26, 2010, at Camp Nauvoo Lodge in Nauvoo, Illinois.
omiolo 1 year ago
Products such as rice and beans are bought locally where they are available. Transportation is terrible along the congested, broken roads, but that situation is beginning to smooth out.
omiolo 1 year ago
True to patterns already established in the Church, priesthood leaders request what they need for their members and the Church delivers. What is distributed each night is determined by those requests.
Members, who are receiving this help, load and unload the food each night and help to distribute it as part of their welfare contribution.
omiolo 1 year ago
There are 18,000 Church members in Haiti, divided into 27 congregations, two stakes and two districts. Before the earthquake, the Church was in the process of creating a third stake in Haiti, something that may be delayed now as the leaders respond to the more pressing crisis.
omiolo 1 year ago
Thats really funny that black people are in this because last time I checked you believe that black people were cursed by God in Heaven & return to Heaven as slaves.
LInebacker998 2 years ago
Shhh! Don't tell people that. The church gets a sizable portion of its money from the blacks. Who cares if God cursed them?
thesignsoflife7 1 year ago
Rates of sexually transmitted disease are rising in both Utah and America, but Utah has one-tenth the syphilis rate of America, one-sixth the gonorrhea rate and 60 percent the chlamydia rate
omiolo 1 year ago
God has cursed almost EVERY group from the beginning of time, including Jews "his chosen people"
That being said, Mormons never have believed blacks to be cursed.....sorry.
pilottim79 1 year ago
The number of patients is starting to dwindle, while the most acute cases brought to the clinics are being transferred to local hospitals because surgical procedures in the makeshift clinic could lead to more serious problems with infection.
omiolo 2 years ago
Why do the words come off the page of scripture and go directly into my heart when others are almost indifferent about this sacred book? Why have I been willing to make sacred covenants through baptism, make covenants in the temple, and—for many of you—serve a mission?
omiolo 2 years ago
Well, obviously...
you're very, very, very special.
iqlusionblogspot 2 years ago
May we ever remember the lesson of Kirtland and hold on a little longer—even when things look bleak. Know and remember this: the Lord loves you. He remembers you. And He will ever sustain those who endure in faith to the end (D&C 20:25).
omiolo 2 years ago
"It's like we're all one big church serving the same people," said Marlene Galewick, homeless representative for the Whittier stake of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
"We believe in service," Galewick said. "These people are down on their luck and when you can't help yourself you need help from other people."
omiolo 2 years ago
I look at the eagle's shape again. It is painted carefully over a large dome-shaped object. A dome shaped object on a table: It. Is. A. Beehive.
omiolo 2 years ago
As I look at the yellow cracks in the eagle on my computer screen, I glance down below the eagle's wings. There are faint outlines of a table with stubby legs.
omiolo 2 years ago
The original Nauvoo Legion may have used the flag. Hartvigsen thinks it is even possible that the flag may have even been used earlier during the Missouri persecutions. Smith family tradition, however, only pushes it back as far as the Nauvoo Temple -- flying over the City of Joseph.
omiolo 2 years ago
SALT LAKE CITY -- The flag that belongs to Elder Eldred G. Smith, emeritus patriarch to the LDS Church, is not an ordinary American flag. It is a flag that belonged to Brigham Young. It is a flag that was carried by the Mormon Battalion on its trek to California. It is a flag that has a secret -- a secret kept hidden for more than 160 years
omiolo 2 years ago
I sit at my roll-top computer desk and place a photo CD into the computer. A few clicks on a mouse and photographs of the patriarch's flag appear on the screen. They are stunning. Welden C. Andersen, who photographs documents for the Joseph Smith Papers, used a 39-megapixel Hasselblad camera to take the pictures. Every fiber and paint stroke on the old flag are sharp and bright.
omiolo 2 years ago
oh yah the MORmON Battalion the deal where Brigham Young played the LDS members, as he volunteered them to go off to war with out their knowledge & when the army showed up for the recruits scum bag Briggy pretended like he had no idea it was coming but insisted on complying any way to get the MONEY!
What an SCUMBAG! US GOv docs prove what I am saying! Go ahead & deny it you braindead POS MORmON.
settypatch 2 years ago
don't you have some videos to hide behind?
Are you drunk, is that why you left your self imposed barricade?
omiolo 2 years ago
I love these comments!
iqlusionblogspot 2 years ago
he critics are mistaken: Utah sex education is comparatively successful.
In America, 75 of every 1,000 girls between the ages of 15 and 19 become pregnant. In Utah, only 40 of every 1,000 girls become pregnant.
omiolo 1 year ago
Secrets of the patriarch's bear flag
omiolo 2 years ago
mor#e mad$e u^p gar@bage fro*m the per#petrator of such!
I actua@lly thi$nk you are going to like your MORmON kingDUMB. You will find o$ther peo^ple just as faithFOOL as yourself
settypatch 2 years ago
"You might not think any of these experiences to be particularly impressive, but to me they have had a very profound influence on my life that persists to this day," President Samuelson said. "I am grateful for them and especially for the lessons learned and the principles taught by this great prophet."
omiolo 2 years ago
"It was a tremendous moment in my life because I knew then better than ever before that he truly was the Lord's prophet and we, as young, inexperienced and unpolished missionaries, were really on the Lord's errand.
omiolo 2 years ago
John S. Tanner, left, Brigham Young University academic vice president, talks with Brigham Young University President Cecil O. Samuelson, right and his wife Sharon Samuelson.
omiolo 2 years ago
One experience President Samuelson spoke of happened when he was a missionary in Scotland. President McKay was visiting with missionaries when a group of reporters barged into the room. Asking if he was a true prophet, President McKay responded, "Look me in the eyes. Can you tell me that I am not a prophet?"
omiolo 2 years ago
President Samuelson told of President McKay's association with his grandfather, Joseph Mitchell, as they served a mission to Scotland at the same time. He told of multiple experiences as a young Mormon missionary meeting President McKay, and the impact each encounter had on his own life.
omiolo 2 years ago
and what ever amount LDS INc spent on aid they spent 20 times that making sure it was highly publicized to maintain their BS tax exempt status and 1000 times more on their real estate speculation. projects. phonies!
settypatch 2 years ago
more made up garbage from the perpetrator of such!
I actually think you are going to like HELL. You will find other people just as miserable as yourself!
omiolo 2 years ago
my exit from MORmONISM was largely facilitated with the realization that even if there was a celestial kingDUMB I had no interest in going there & being around MORmONS like you. yes Hell is s huge step up if it means getting away from the LDS!
settypatch 2 years ago
are you saying it had NOTHING to do with the DIVORCE??
/GOTCHA
omiolo 2 years ago
take the second m out of mormom,then you shall see the light
GENITALWART5 2 years ago
"lying for the lord" ...not taught by LDS Church. But, thanks for playing: "I Don't know What I'm Talking About, But I Love seeing my Dumb Comments On Youtube!---Hi Mom!"
You might win a prize!
trha13 2 years ago
These kind folks reach out to people in need and help them more than any government agency could or ever would! Regardless of religion or race, we need more people like them in the world today. It's a wonderful thing they do!
mmmbad 2 years ago
Latter Day Saints are in NO WAY predudice to ANY race...if you've run into any it's a shame...I say to you the religion is perfect but it's members,,,just like the whole human race,,,, are not. Those who practice it's teachings and live by it's precepts would never fathom having ill will towards any person...don't take out of context what bitter words or hearsay some few may have towards The Saviors Church..ask our Father in Heaven yourself that u be shown the truth.
TrickTrolan 2 years ago 8
>> Latter Day Saints are in NO WAY predudice to ANY race
Maybe not now, but the doctrine hasn't changed since blacks were denied the presthood. Or since the church didn't allow women to take the sacrement.
JSmithFalseProphet 2 years ago
Let me , a mormon, set this straight. African Americans CAN hold the priesthood. And woman CAN partake of the sacrament.
MsPayDays 2 years ago 3