Kwan choked the gold again...disgracing herself yet again... turning on the waterworks in the exo... wearing the gold costume and skating to gold music... so TRAGIC. The Olympics were ALL supposed to be about ME-ME-ME chelle taking home the gold for herself... But Sarah won for America and what a joyous moment that was!
@allenglandlawns With no gold, Michelle is more famous, beloved and respected around the WORLD than Tara , Sarah and Sasha COMBINED! Your bitter, envious venom will never diminish her iconic status. Hate on her all you want, dear....your opinion is the MINORITY OPINION!!!!
So, does anyone know what happened to that wonderful video...the tribute to the actual WINNER of these Olympics...with Jim McKay...tributes to that other skater are all over the place...what happened to the one on the Olympic Gold Medalist Sarah Hughes?
So, does anyone know what happened to that wonderful video...the tribute to the actual WINNER of these Olympics...with Jim McKay...tributes to that other skater are all over the place...what happened to the one on the Olympic Gold Medalist Sarah Hughes?
@getrealandsee ROFLMAO!!! You can't locate videos of Tara and Sarah because the place is plastered with videos of Michelle..THAT SAYS IT ALL ROFLMAO!!! LOVES IT! You just summed it all PERFECTLY! Michelle is more famous, beloved and respected than Tara and Sarah COMBINED! Getreal you are a big, giant macadamia in my opinion, but THIS was the BEST post you ever wrote!! BRAVO!!!! LOLOL!!!
And KWAN HAS BECOME A LEGEND, a hard and bitter slap on the face of the UGLY, CAREER-LESS HAS-BEEN Tara Lipinski, otherwise known on Youtube as getrealandsee, allengslandlawns, cleareyed, i thinkformyself, kwansangsog, woolagirl, and her other TROLL identities. And Kwan became one even without having to win the medal that was GIFTED to the UGLY, CAREER-LESS HAS-BEEN Lipinski. Look who's laughing now? Ha ha ha ha ha!
@jgardell Why thank you:)-:) But please do not give me credit for being Tara Lipinski. Tara, I am sure is smiling even now but her Gold medal win made so many other people smile and laugh that she remains a gift..her win was a joy to behold and her reaction to it was so totally Tara. Tara was a happy and joyful skater who truly loves skating and will always be known as the one who rewrote the history books. No, nothing Kwan does is a slap in the face to Tara. Tara is a complete success.
@jgardell So happy to know that one more person has Getrealandsee figured out...I've said it for a long time; no mere "fan" of one of Michelle's competitors would dedicate YEARS of their life to spewing hate about her on youttube. Getrealandsee (aka Allenglandlawns, etc.)) is either a former competitor of Michelle's, or the relative of a former competitor. Regardless, she is one sick individual IMO...angry and bitter that Michelle is more famous than Tara, Sara and Sasha combined!
@jgardell Getreal can change usernames and spew all of the crap she wants, but the FACT remains that people who actually know Michelle, and people who actually know something about skating, have nothing but praise for her and her accomplishments. She has been called a legend and icon by the likes of Scott, Dick, Peggy, Dorothy, Brian, Katarina and Kristi...not one of them has EVER said she ruined the sport or cheated anyone. They know Michelle and skating better than Getreal ever has or will!!!!
“I have a lot to work on,” she said, “and I’m going to try my very best to skate from the heart.”
If kwan skates 'from the heart' why would a groin owie bother her. This skate from the heart CRAP is sickening. Put on skates and get out on the ice and go for it or STAY HOME!!!!
"This morning I chose to not go through my program. I was debating whether to practice or not. But sitting on the plane, sitting around, I just wanted to get out and feel the ice." Despite her desire to end her Olympic career with a gold, the 25-year-old Kwan said she would not put her health at risk.
SHE LIED PERIOD! A first class plane ride and marching in the opening ceremonies for FACE TIME and an Olympic caliber athlete is done in by ONE practice session. Ugly Ugly trick Kwan!!
“I’m thinking gold is good,” Kwan said at a news conference after the monitoring committee announced its decision. “I’m staying positive, feeling good. I’m injury free. So right now, it’s just going for it.”
This is a quote the kwan re the 2006 Olympics where it's not about the Gold???? Going for it??? Like she did the 1st two times???
Did Michelle ask another coach to sign it and, if so, did that coach know he/she was disobeying Frank's instructions (coaches do talk among themselves, and it's not unreasonable that other coaches would have known Frank was planning to keep Michelle Junior another year).
Or did Michelle forge the signature herself? In which case her Senior Test is invalid... as is every title she won with it.
Except for one point no one has yet to address or explain.
In order to take the Senior Freeskating test, every contender needs to present a USFSA form signed by their club officer, and their coach. Otherwise, the test isn't valid. If she was disobeying Frank's instructions, who signed Michelle's form?
Michelle spun a tale of waiting until coach Frank Carroll was out of town before disobeying his instructions and sneaking away to take the test qualifying her to compete as a Senior Lady. The story instantly became a fixture in the growing Kwan legend.
I think, clearly the best antidote for Ithinkformyself is to quit coming and posting retarded garbages on all of Michelle's forum. After all, i thinkformyself is a drugged up, disillusioned mess.
She still has the same perfect skills as before, but if she always win, it would hog up all the fame for new, young skaters that want to try out. The judges didn't let her win because people need to pass their fame to younger people. Michelle Kwan didn't suck (she was sooo freaken prooooo), but the judges did (in my opinion).
GODS, who was her choreographer? This is BEAUTIFUL! The problem is, Olympic judges want athletes and don't recognize subtle demonstrations of sheer genius when they see it.
Eva Cassidy the recording artist here, passed away in '96. This performance is haunting and emotional, more memorable and better than if Kwan had won the gold... wow
This had been an exhibition number of hers for a year before this olympics, and it was NOT, therefore, done because she thought she would win... But I can see why someone might think that.
As the commentator says at the start of her performance, success isn't always measured in gold. For those who complained that skating to this song implied that she thought she would win, LISTEN to the words! The song is about remembering those we love, and as I will always remember Michelle and this performance, I think it was a perfect choice. Even without the jumps, what an lyrical, elegant skater!
@danjohnrob64 This was initially dedicated to the US Olympic skating team and coahces who were killed in a plane crash in 1961. And there are those who'll corruptly assert that she never gave anything back to skating.
She got a gold record of the album this song is from, from the record comapny, because she made millions aware of the recording. That's an amazing tribute to her.
NOBODY skates more beautiful than Michelle. I agree with you! sometimes the greats never get the Gold. Roger Federer hasn't won the French, Patti Labelle doesn't get the credit she deserved. But Nobody has been more beautiful than Michelle on Ice. And I thought she was robbed when Tara won!
Almost 8 years later and this is still so beautiful! It was so heartbreaking that she didn't win, but in the end it doesn't really matter. As great as both Tara and Sarah were, they have largely been forgotten. Michelle hasn't, and won't be. She is still considered by many as one of the greatest skaters ever. That is better then an olympic gold medal. Miss you Michelle!
Her technique, no matter how great, was always subservient to her art. She had a knack for selecting just the right piece of music then interpreting it in such a way that the lines between the song and the dance became inextricably woven. Never before, never again. I love you, Michelle...
I have very mixed feelings looking at this, and I know everyone is going to flame me for this but whatever. I always disliked michelle, I thought she always expected to win {understandable , she usually did win}. This program was a great example, she thought she had the gold. She choked. I actually felt bad for michelle, it must have been embarassing skating this when everyone knew she did not win, but this was IMHO her finest program, how can you not love michelle after watching this!
Well I misplaced to dislike Michelle because she was always expected to win because like you said MOST of the time she did. But as far as the song if you can think about having a generous heart it could be for whomever won. And she has walked in fields of gold in many national and world comeptitions.
MK is known--and will continue to be know as one of the greatest F-skaters, despite the disapproval of certain persons. We may forget certain olympic gold medalist, but MK will not be forgotten, she has given a lot more then Gold medalist have. I will be selfish. I am glad she lost the gold medal the first time, because she may haved retired. Losing kept her ambitions alive, and She has a legacy because of it. Her legacy is far greater then an olympic gold medal...Thanks for all the memories.
Im a big Sasha fan....one thing I would NEVER do is say anything bad about Michelle. USA Figure Skating is where it is today because of Michelle.... point blank. Michelle is and always will be one of the most amazing skaters in history.
@JNagarya THAT IS BULL KAKA per SCOTT HAMILTON!!! It makes sense what Scott or his co commentator says..why would one skater risk injuring themselves just to rattle the competition?? And as far as apologizing still waiting for Kwan's to Emily Hughes and the USA!!! Sasha is a class act..unlike, oooooh, wrinkle nose and thumbs down at scores...and the interview after was fun post competition. And wasn't the KWANPETITION classy!
No, it is not filthy, dear. Arrogant and Phony are adjectives...and they describe Kwan to the nth degree...vulgarity is calling Tara a ..I won't even repeat it..nope..no filth or obscene comments..none needed..this program was so pretty and I loved her GOLD costume..heh heh heh..or maybe it was BRONZE..shouldn't have been either...Sasha won the Bronze!!! Hypocrite..nope..consistent:) Kwan ..read a little why doncha..see the personification of situational ethics..aka as Michelle Kwan:)
She is one skater that most deserves the olympic gold. The point that she did not get it,makes me wonder about the value and worth of olympic medals???
There is something very, very wrong when a person comes back and repeatedly posts paragraph after paragraph of negative, critical remarks... really obsessing in a bad way, when obviously the whole point of this video and beautiful music was to uplift.
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Nope..not a psychopath...not even close..I am honest and I stand by my opinion and have despite being attacked and blocked and insulted...I am happy to have the chance to express my opinion of this highly overrated skater and her 'situational ethics' which is just another way of saying she's a phony and a hypocrite..and a mediocre skater who hung on forever to win the OG! Of course, now that she hasn't a chance it doesn't matter..it's not about the GOLD since she can't win it...she is a JOKE!
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Great to hear..we won't be run off the boards by anyone..and God knows they try:) It's so much fun to picture them at the computer typing furiously and getting all upset..heh heh heh..keep on keeping on and I will as well:)
I don't know who you are talking about. The Michelle Kwan I know is, a beautiful person inside and outside and one of the best skaters of all times! I wish she had skated to Fields of Gold in the Olympics. She is a person I look up to and am much older than her.. She is such a great role model for the younger people. I wish she could be in the next Olympics. I MISS HER WONDERFUL PERFORMANCES. She has heart of gold!!!! And will always be first in mine among skaters.
well said, Pattyharmon, "a beautiful person inside and outside and one of the best skaters of all times!" "She is such a great role model for the younger people"
It's sad that you have to resent Michelle and her skating so much so that you can't see the beauty. Maybe she isn't the most flexible like Sasha or have the height on her jumps like Irina, but she has more heart than them all. Her skating is so enjoyable, I could care less about the results.
If you have a problem with results, blame judging, not Michelle. Or blame Sasha for not ever having two clean programs in a Worlds, Nationals, or Olympics.
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Oh, but I DO see the beauty when there is any...and as far as blaming the judges a person with any honor would admit that some of her 6's were ridiculous. And SHE petitioned onto the '06 team and then she BLAMED the committee for sending her...this is why I resent her so very much! Sasha is another story..if you listen very carefully to comments on #Kwan's# videos you will hear 'she rarely completes two clean programs...but being held up is very very helpful in winning titles!
You know what, ithinkformyself, I would be fine if you just stated you preferred Sasha's skating to Michelle's, she has many great qualities to it. But it's the fact that you're trolling on these boards constantly and spewing such vitriolic crap about Michelle, saying she's arrogant, entitled etc etc. none of which are even close to the truth.
Michelle's parents made great sacrifices so she and her sister can skate, and I think she of all people would appreciate that, hardly what I'd call entitled. She's also been extremely gracious when she hasn't won, and she's lasted longer than almost any of her competitors (her and Irina Slutskaya are icons of the sport). You don't need to bring other people down to promote your favorites. It reeks of immaturity.
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SO????? A lot of parents made sacrifices and their children have trained very hard..Kwan was actually injured trying to bring her programs up to speed..once she realized that the new scoring system wouldn't allow for favortism! Other athletes trained much harder...and even Michelle's coach warned her...she thought the '98 Gold was hers because she's Kwan and didn't bother to try to up her levels even knowing Tara's ability!
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I don't know where the impression that I prefer Sasha to Michelle and that is the reason I resent Kwan came from. Not even a little true...I have watched Kwan long before Sasha came onto the scene and I have seen her held up so many times it sickening..and she does have a very huge sense of entitlement and is arrorgant...think...TORINO!
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And as far as my being vitriolic..maybe you are right but I have never ever called anyone names, insulted anyone personally, and I certainly have not made vicious comments about Kwan personally...unlike other posters (not you)..so I guess I do come across as a little stronger than I intend..some of Kwan's defenders are downright vile and vicious! Arrogant, phony, and 'entitled' don't begin to compare to comments made by some posters when it comes to anyone but KWAN.
Okay serious dude, or girl, or whoever you are. You need to lay off. You do not know Michelle Kwan personally at all, and you have indeed made insulting and vicious comments about her, the evidence is all over these forums. We get your position, we don't agree with it but we can hardly misunderstand your opinion. Now try making constructive comments and being a negative TROLL on these boards please!
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Okay well serious dude or girl I have not called Michelle filthy names..said she was fat...I have simply stated facts and expressed opinions..which can be backed up by experts...I have been watching this overrated skater for years and I am just grateful that as of yet she has yet to win her sport's greatest honor..OG..(oh, I forgot...it doesn't matter..just ask Michelle..per her pity party in Torino but now she is saying she'll stay eligible for 2010)WHAT A HYPOCRITAL PHONY!
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I am very much somebody thank you! Kwan is loaded with nothing but a bloated ego, arrogance, and a sense of entitlement...she shouldn't have placed here and so many titles are just given..not earned. She is not so beloved as you need to believe. Having an opinion doesn't make me nobody..and certainly a dolt such as yourself can't!
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Michelle the pitiable..copious tears for herself but lapping up the pity..she didn't deserve the bronze medal..Sasha did! Talk about arrogance..she forgot that some judges have integrity and she just might have to stay on her feet to win...so here she is in her GOLD costume...a real pity play..surely she had other costumes and a back up plan..nope, too arrogant!
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I have..tons of them...the gushers and swooners are so intent on defending this skater that some of their comments are downright hilarious and over the top delusional and desperate to boot!
Michelle didn't deserve the gold here, Sarah Hughes did. You'll find you've very much alone on your opinion of Michelle Kwan. Let's count em' Michelle, 5 worlds championships, Sasha - none. Sasha Cohen had all the ingredients to be world champion but she was a choke artist who could never string two clean programs together.
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Speaking of choking:) I am much more supported in my opinions which are based on research than you are in your desperate attempts attempts to make Kwan a champion..she isn't and she never will be! And of course Sarah deserved the Gold here..what's your point?
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Thank you so much for replying to this person...I don't know anything about this new attacker but I stand by MY opinion that Sasha Cohen earned the Bronze here and Kwan was thrown a bone...after all....she is the arrogant KWAN..hopefully, it was an insult and she was humiliated having to skate out to accept it! Sasah beat her by a mile!
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Oh, goody you have found a pal to bash me..takes two I guess! So, any comment about Kwannie that isn't gushing and swooning is deluded...nope...all the gushers and swooners are delusional..she is mediocre at best! Medals notwithstanding:)
We cried with her when she skated this! She deserved that medal based on talent... It's a testament to her brilliance that, despite her bronze, the crowd stood in awe and admiration She is THE woman's skater of our lifetime! We are lucky to have seen her.
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Say what..are you actually saying that Kwan deserved the GOLD medal based on 'talent'? Ummm...a reguritated short and a lousy long program..these aren't to be considered? Good thing the crowd stood..Kwan sure couldn't and the bronze should have gone to Sasha..
Seriously go sleep with Sasha if you love her that much. Sasha was very lucky to get a medal at all in Turin, she should have been fourth behind Shizuka, Irina and Fumie. What a retard!!
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I have..tons of them...the gushers and swooners are so intent on defending this skater that some of their comments are downright hilarious and over the top delusional and desperate to boot!
uh, I would just think carefully about you making a comment linking Ithinkformyself's opinion of the figure skater, Sasha. Ithinkformyself's favorite skater happened to be Tara. I don't have any negative opinions about Tara even though I would not dare bring her up in Kwan's forum.
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I am getting sick of having words put into my mouth!!! You don't know my favorite skater(s) or anything else about me so keep your opinions confined to your own preferences, please!
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On MK's forum or webiste..whatever..Tara has been trashed as has Sarah Hughes..Emily is called a fat cow...sad..very sad..I don't comment on any forums! And there are videos of Kwan where ONLY POSITIVE comments are allowed...none out there on any other skater..does that tell you something..I am not the only one who doesn't see KWAN as the best!
Its not just bullying Tara, or Emily, I've seen people even bullying Yu Na Kim. Its not fair, life is not fair, and mostly people are just pitying others for the fun of it. Maybe if people were to grow up and stop the senseless bullying, then it would be a pleasant experience to critique.
MK's Fields of Gold I watched on youtube in March 2007 made me love michelle and figure skating. Since then I've visited MKForum often. I haven't seen threads or posts bashing Tara or Sarah or other skaters. Michelle's fans have a lot of confidences in michelle to be one of the greatest skaters of all time, they don't need to do that trash thing. And most of MK's fans like Yuna Kim too because Yuna mentioned michelle very positive.
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"they don't need to do that trash thing"
I doubt you have been reading the same MKF that I have for many years. Believe me they do bash and it's all the time. Go back a few pages in Skating Chat or a few years and it's there! Try saying something nice about Tara and see the results you get. Any skater that has beat MK skating will get bashed. Too bad you weren't reading back in 1998!!
I read that 17 year old michelle said: "Tara, I like u", after tara beat her back in 1998 Olys. MK showed her grace on and off the ice. it's not necessary to blame michelle for what her craze fans did. some of yuna ,mao and kimmie's craze fans did some disgraceful things but I still like these sweet girls.
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Like her as much as you want, but nothing or anyone says that I have too!!! I don't care how many medals she has, don't mean crap to me. If she is as nice as you seem to think, then she would be ashamed of how her so called fans bash others, but she posted on that forum and that tells me what kind of person she really is.
You can have it your way and I'll have it mine. Okay!
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Right on!!! I couldn't agree more...Michelle has her defenders between her and what she REALLY is...not to mention press agents who are great at spin if you are inclined to believe it which I AM NOT!!! I still think Sasha should have won the bronze here..just my opinion.
michelle doesn't have official website, she has nothing to do with some of her craze fans' behavior. All kinds of fans don't allow people to criticize their idols or praise their idols' rivals in thier forums, it's so common. if someone want to ruin michelle's reputation or bash her, try some logical excuses next time.
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I don't like mk and that's that!!! As ithinkformyself says, "she has been held up to many times" and has many 6'0s she didn't deserve. That's my logical excuse!
It's not a logical excuse when u cited someone's non professional opinion saying "many 6'0s mk didn't deserve". gaving titles or 6'0s is judges's job, not skaters' nor ours. But I still respect your opinion with that logical part--you don't like MK whatever she did or not did.
What is it with this damn blurry screen???
icefishy2003 5 days ago
HA,,,,,, IT'S SO PIXELATED THAT YOU CAN BARELY EVEN TELL THAT IT'S IN THE WRONG ASPECT RATIO - BEST YOU TUBE UPLOAD SINCE THE CAVE MAN DAYS !!!
LISZTIZATION 3 weeks ago
Kwan choked the gold again...disgracing herself yet again... turning on the waterworks in the exo... wearing the gold costume and skating to gold music... so TRAGIC. The Olympics were ALL supposed to be about ME-ME-ME chelle taking home the gold for herself... But Sarah won for America and what a joyous moment that was!
allenglandlawns 6 months ago
@allenglandlawns With no gold, Michelle is more famous, beloved and respected around the WORLD than Tara , Sarah and Sasha COMBINED! Your bitter, envious venom will never diminish her iconic status. Hate on her all you want, dear....your opinion is the MINORITY OPINION!!!!
MissThingSings 5 months ago
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So, does anyone know what happened to that wonderful video...the tribute to the actual WINNER of these Olympics...with Jim McKay...tributes to that other skater are all over the place...what happened to the one on the Olympic Gold Medalist Sarah Hughes?
getrealandsee 6 months ago
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So, does anyone know what happened to that wonderful video...the tribute to the actual WINNER of these Olympics...with Jim McKay...tributes to that other skater are all over the place...what happened to the one on the Olympic Gold Medalist Sarah Hughes?
getrealandsee 6 months ago
@getrealandsee ROFLMAO!!! You can't locate videos of Tara and Sarah because the place is plastered with videos of Michelle..THAT SAYS IT ALL ROFLMAO!!! LOVES IT! You just summed it all PERFECTLY! Michelle is more famous, beloved and respected than Tara and Sarah COMBINED! Getreal you are a big, giant macadamia in my opinion, but THIS was the BEST post you ever wrote!! BRAVO!!!! LOLOL!!!
MissThingSings 6 months ago
And KWAN HAS BECOME A LEGEND, a hard and bitter slap on the face of the UGLY, CAREER-LESS HAS-BEEN Tara Lipinski, otherwise known on Youtube as getrealandsee, allengslandlawns, cleareyed, i thinkformyself, kwansangsog, woolagirl, and her other TROLL identities. And Kwan became one even without having to win the medal that was GIFTED to the UGLY, CAREER-LESS HAS-BEEN Lipinski. Look who's laughing now? Ha ha ha ha ha!
jgardell 7 months ago 2
@jgardell I see you know how to copy and paste:)-:)
getrealandsee 7 months ago
@getrealandsee I must give you credit for being the expert on that.
jgardell 7 months ago
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@jgardell Why thank you:)-:) But please do not give me credit for being Tara Lipinski. Tara, I am sure is smiling even now but her Gold medal win made so many other people smile and laugh that she remains a gift..her win was a joy to behold and her reaction to it was so totally Tara. Tara was a happy and joyful skater who truly loves skating and will always be known as the one who rewrote the history books. No, nothing Kwan does is a slap in the face to Tara. Tara is a complete success.
getrealandsee 7 months ago
@jgardell So happy to know that one more person has Getrealandsee figured out...I've said it for a long time; no mere "fan" of one of Michelle's competitors would dedicate YEARS of their life to spewing hate about her on youttube. Getrealandsee (aka Allenglandlawns, etc.)) is either a former competitor of Michelle's, or the relative of a former competitor. Regardless, she is one sick individual IMO...angry and bitter that Michelle is more famous than Tara, Sara and Sasha combined!
MissThingSings 7 months ago
@MissThingSings All of them combined - how true!
jgardell 7 months ago
@jgardell Getreal can change usernames and spew all of the crap she wants, but the FACT remains that people who actually know Michelle, and people who actually know something about skating, have nothing but praise for her and her accomplishments. She has been called a legend and icon by the likes of Scott, Dick, Peggy, Dorothy, Brian, Katarina and Kristi...not one of them has EVER said she ruined the sport or cheated anyone. They know Michelle and skating better than Getreal ever has or will!!!!
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“I have a lot to work on,” she said, “and I’m going to try my very best to skate from the heart.”
If kwan skates 'from the heart' why would a groin owie bother her. This skate from the heart CRAP is sickening. Put on skates and get out on the ice and go for it or STAY HOME!!!!
getrealandsee 11 months ago
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"This morning I chose to not go through my program. I was debating whether to practice or not. But sitting on the plane, sitting around, I just wanted to get out and feel the ice." Despite her desire to end her Olympic career with a gold, the 25-year-old Kwan said she would not put her health at risk.
SHE LIED PERIOD! A first class plane ride and marching in the opening ceremonies for FACE TIME and an Olympic caliber athlete is done in by ONE practice session. Ugly Ugly trick Kwan!!
getrealandsee 11 months ago
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“I’m thinking gold is good,” Kwan said at a news conference after the monitoring committee announced its decision. “I’m staying positive, feeling good. I’m injury free. So right now, it’s just going for it.”
This is a quote the kwan re the 2006 Olympics where it's not about the Gold???? Going for it??? Like she did the 1st two times???
getrealandsee 11 months ago
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Did Michelle ask another coach to sign it and, if so, did that coach know he/she was disobeying Frank's instructions (coaches do talk among themselves, and it's not unreasonable that other coaches would have known Frank was planning to keep Michelle Junior another year).
Or did Michelle forge the signature herself? In which case her Senior Test is invalid... as is every title she won with it.
Your thoughts? Do we have a major scandal here?
getrealandsee 11 months ago
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Except for one point no one has yet to address or explain.
In order to take the Senior Freeskating test, every contender needs to present a USFSA form signed by their club officer, and their coach. Otherwise, the test isn't valid. If she was disobeying Frank's instructions, who signed Michelle's form?
getrealandsee 11 months ago
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Michelle spun a tale of waiting until coach Frank Carroll was out of town before disobeying his instructions and sneaking away to take the test qualifying her to compete as a Senior Lady. The story instantly became a fixture in the growing Kwan legend.
getrealandsee 11 months ago
I think, clearly the best antidote for Ithinkformyself is to quit coming and posting retarded garbages on all of Michelle's forum. After all, i thinkformyself is a drugged up, disillusioned mess.
waddleduckie1 1 year ago 3
She still has the same perfect skills as before, but if she always win, it would hog up all the fame for new, young skaters that want to try out. The judges didn't let her win because people need to pass their fame to younger people. Michelle Kwan didn't suck (she was sooo freaken prooooo), but the judges did (in my opinion).
ShineeDaRose 1 year ago
GODS, who was her choreographer? This is BEAUTIFUL! The problem is, Olympic judges want athletes and don't recognize subtle demonstrations of sheer genius when they see it.
BelindaKyle 2 years ago
Eva Cassidy the recording artist here, passed away in '96. This performance is haunting and emotional, more memorable and better than if Kwan had won the gold... wow
tahoepoet 2 years ago 5
This had been an exhibition number of hers for a year before this olympics, and it was NOT, therefore, done because she thought she would win... But I can see why someone might think that.
mlc2005 2 years ago 2
As the commentator says at the start of her performance, success isn't always measured in gold. For those who complained that skating to this song implied that she thought she would win, LISTEN to the words! The song is about remembering those we love, and as I will always remember Michelle and this performance, I think it was a perfect choice. Even without the jumps, what an lyrical, elegant skater!
danjohnrob64 2 years ago 5
@danjohnrob64 This was initially dedicated to the US Olympic skating team and coahces who were killed in a plane crash in 1961. And there are those who'll corruptly assert that she never gave anything back to skating.
She got a gold record of the album this song is from, from the record comapny, because she made millions aware of the recording. That's an amazing tribute to her.
JNagarya 1 year ago
NOBODY skates more beautiful than Michelle. I agree with you! sometimes the greats never get the Gold. Roger Federer hasn't won the French, Patti Labelle doesn't get the credit she deserved. But Nobody has been more beautiful than Michelle on Ice. And I thought she was robbed when Tara won!
fiercejarret 2 years ago
federer has won the french... =)
finally!
beliving26 2 years ago
Exactly! Very Happy for him. He's my favorite!
fiercejarret 2 years ago
Almost 8 years later and this is still so beautiful! It was so heartbreaking that she didn't win, but in the end it doesn't really matter. As great as both Tara and Sarah were, they have largely been forgotten. Michelle hasn't, and won't be. She is still considered by many as one of the greatest skaters ever. That is better then an olympic gold medal. Miss you Michelle!
BrigettSparkles 2 years ago 5
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SOUR GRAPES!
getrealandsee 1 year ago
Sour grapes? Really? Michelle is one of the best skaters of all time......where's the sour in that?
BrigettSparkles 1 year ago
Shes so amazing in her jumps!
i love you ♥
Karamelapple11 2 years ago 2
Her technique, no matter how great, was always subservient to her art. She had a knack for selecting just the right piece of music then interpreting it in such a way that the lines between the song and the dance became inextricably woven. Never before, never again. I love you, Michelle...
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I have very mixed feelings looking at this, and I know everyone is going to flame me for this but whatever. I always disliked michelle, I thought she always expected to win {understandable , she usually did win}. This program was a great example, she thought she had the gold. She choked. I actually felt bad for michelle, it must have been embarassing skating this when everyone knew she did not win, but this was IMHO her finest program, how can you not love michelle after watching this!
memd92 3 years ago
Well I misplaced to dislike Michelle because she was always expected to win because like you said MOST of the time she did. But as far as the song if you can think about having a generous heart it could be for whomever won. And she has walked in fields of gold in many national and world comeptitions.
fiercejarret 2 years ago
remember, no matter how much they complain about her. Michelle will always be know as one of the greatest skaters.
cerdanM 3 years ago 6
i love her so much
hotptab 3 years ago
MK is known--and will continue to be know as one of the greatest F-skaters, despite the disapproval of certain persons. We may forget certain olympic gold medalist, but MK will not be forgotten, she has given a lot more then Gold medalist have. I will be selfish. I am glad she lost the gold medal the first time, because she may haved retired. Losing kept her ambitions alive, and She has a legacy because of it. Her legacy is far greater then an olympic gold medal...Thanks for all the memories.
cerdanM 3 years ago 5
i certainly hope that this dislike of michelle kwan, is not because of a racial issue..?
cerdanM 3 years ago 4
Im a big Sasha fan....one thing I would NEVER do is say anything bad about Michelle. USA Figure Skating is where it is today because of Michelle.... point blank. Michelle is and always will be one of the most amazing skaters in history.
No1ZmeskalFan 3 years ago 19
thank you so much for that
hotptab 3 years ago
@No1ZmeskalFan And Sasha "accidentally" bumped into Michelle Kwan TWICE during pre-skate warm-up at 2001 Nationals.
She didn't apologize. "Class" act, that.
JNagarya 1 year ago
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@JNagarya THAT IS BULL KAKA per SCOTT HAMILTON!!! It makes sense what Scott or his co commentator says..why would one skater risk injuring themselves just to rattle the competition?? And as far as apologizing still waiting for Kwan's to Emily Hughes and the USA!!! Sasha is a class act..unlike, oooooh, wrinkle nose and thumbs down at scores...and the interview after was fun post competition. And wasn't the KWANPETITION classy!
getrealandsee 11 months ago
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No, it is not filthy, dear. Arrogant and Phony are adjectives...and they describe Kwan to the nth degree...vulgarity is calling Tara a ..I won't even repeat it..nope..no filth or obscene comments..none needed..this program was so pretty and I loved her GOLD costume..heh heh heh..or maybe it was BRONZE..shouldn't have been either...Sasha won the Bronze!!! Hypocrite..nope..consistent:) Kwan ..read a little why doncha..see the personification of situational ethics..aka as Michelle Kwan:)
ithinkformyself 3 years ago
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If you are talking to me. Right back at you!!
woolagirl 3 years ago
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Are you talking to me? Hard to tell which one of my posts you are responding to since I received four of them.
woolagirl 3 years ago
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I can complain about anyone or anything, if I so choose!!
Who are you that can tell me who I can complain about?
No one IMO!
woolagirl 3 years ago
She is one skater that most deserves the olympic gold. The point that she did not get it,makes me wonder about the value and worth of olympic medals???
starquasar1 3 years ago 3
There is something very, very wrong when a person comes back and repeatedly posts paragraph after paragraph of negative, critical remarks... really obsessing in a bad way, when obviously the whole point of this video and beautiful music was to uplift.
leftunattended 3 years ago 3
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Nope..not a psychopath...not even close..I am honest and I stand by my opinion and have despite being attacked and blocked and insulted...I am happy to have the chance to express my opinion of this highly overrated skater and her 'situational ethics' which is just another way of saying she's a phony and a hypocrite..and a mediocre skater who hung on forever to win the OG! Of course, now that she hasn't a chance it doesn't matter..it's not about the GOLD since she can't win it...she is a JOKE!
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
ithinkformyself: Perhaps you need a new YT name... "ithinkBYmyself" would work well.
leftunattended 4 years ago 6
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Umm..well it sounds like you might be best NOT leftunattended...check out the other posters..I am not alone in my opinion.
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
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You are definatily not alone. I agree with what you say all the time. You are entitled!!!
woolagirl 4 years ago
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Great to hear..we won't be run off the boards by anyone..and God knows they try:) It's so much fun to picture them at the computer typing furiously and getting all upset..heh heh heh..keep on keeping on and I will as well:)
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
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I'm a psychopath because I don't like MK? There are to many other skaters out there to support that are not like MK. those are the ones that I like.
woolagirl 4 years ago
How many 10's did she receive?????? She gets A 10 from me!
PattyHarmon 4 years ago 3
I don't know who you are talking about. The Michelle Kwan I know is, a beautiful person inside and outside and one of the best skaters of all times! I wish she had skated to Fields of Gold in the Olympics. She is a person I look up to and am much older than her.. She is such a great role model for the younger people. I wish she could be in the next Olympics. I MISS HER WONDERFUL PERFORMANCES. She has heart of gold!!!! And will always be first in mine among skaters.
PattyHarmon 4 years ago 4
well said, Pattyharmon, "a beautiful person inside and outside and one of the best skaters of all times!" "She is such a great role model for the younger people"
i couldn't agree with you more.
rwz7 4 years ago
It's sad that you have to resent Michelle and her skating so much so that you can't see the beauty. Maybe she isn't the most flexible like Sasha or have the height on her jumps like Irina, but she has more heart than them all. Her skating is so enjoyable, I could care less about the results.
If you have a problem with results, blame judging, not Michelle. Or blame Sasha for not ever having two clean programs in a Worlds, Nationals, or Olympics.
zachschultz 4 years ago 4
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Oh, but I DO see the beauty when there is any...and as far as blaming the judges a person with any honor would admit that some of her 6's were ridiculous. And SHE petitioned onto the '06 team and then she BLAMED the committee for sending her...this is why I resent her so very much! Sasha is another story..if you listen very carefully to comments on #Kwan's# videos you will hear 'she rarely completes two clean programs...but being held up is very very helpful in winning titles!
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
You know what, ithinkformyself, I would be fine if you just stated you preferred Sasha's skating to Michelle's, she has many great qualities to it. But it's the fact that you're trolling on these boards constantly and spewing such vitriolic crap about Michelle, saying she's arrogant, entitled etc etc. none of which are even close to the truth.
StewNWT 4 years ago 4
Michelle's parents made great sacrifices so she and her sister can skate, and I think she of all people would appreciate that, hardly what I'd call entitled. She's also been extremely gracious when she hasn't won, and she's lasted longer than almost any of her competitors (her and Irina Slutskaya are icons of the sport). You don't need to bring other people down to promote your favorites. It reeks of immaturity.
StewNWT 4 years ago 5
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SO????? A lot of parents made sacrifices and their children have trained very hard..Kwan was actually injured trying to bring her programs up to speed..once she realized that the new scoring system wouldn't allow for favortism! Other athletes trained much harder...and even Michelle's coach warned her...she thought the '98 Gold was hers because she's Kwan and didn't bother to try to up her levels even knowing Tara's ability!
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
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I don't know where the impression that I prefer Sasha to Michelle and that is the reason I resent Kwan came from. Not even a little true...I have watched Kwan long before Sasha came onto the scene and I have seen her held up so many times it sickening..and she does have a very huge sense of entitlement and is arrorgant...think...TORINO!
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
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And as far as my being vitriolic..maybe you are right but I have never ever called anyone names, insulted anyone personally, and I certainly have not made vicious comments about Kwan personally...unlike other posters (not you)..so I guess I do come across as a little stronger than I intend..some of Kwan's defenders are downright vile and vicious! Arrogant, phony, and 'entitled' don't begin to compare to comments made by some posters when it comes to anyone but KWAN.
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
Okay serious dude, or girl, or whoever you are. You need to lay off. You do not know Michelle Kwan personally at all, and you have indeed made insulting and vicious comments about her, the evidence is all over these forums. We get your position, we don't agree with it but we can hardly misunderstand your opinion. Now try making constructive comments and being a negative TROLL on these boards please!
StewNWT 4 years ago 2
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Okay well serious dude or girl I have not called Michelle filthy names..said she was fat...I have simply stated facts and expressed opinions..which can be backed up by experts...I have been watching this overrated skater for years and I am just grateful that as of yet she has yet to win her sport's greatest honor..OG..(oh, I forgot...it doesn't matter..just ask Michelle..per her pity party in Torino but now she is saying she'll stay eligible for 2010)WHAT A HYPOCRITAL PHONY!
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
michelle kwan the greatest skater of all times!!
tellito1 4 years ago 2
ithinkformyself: what a biased jerk you are. Michelle is loaded with class - a world view. She is much beloved. You, and rightly so are: NObody.
leftunattended 4 years ago 4
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I am very much somebody thank you! Kwan is loaded with nothing but a bloated ego, arrogance, and a sense of entitlement...she shouldn't have placed here and so many titles are just given..not earned. She is not so beloved as you need to believe. Having an opinion doesn't make me nobody..and certainly a dolt such as yourself can't!
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
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Michelle the pitiable..copious tears for herself but lapping up the pity..she didn't deserve the bronze medal..Sasha did! Talk about arrogance..she forgot that some judges have integrity and she just might have to stay on her feet to win...so here she is in her GOLD costume...a real pity play..surely she had other costumes and a back up plan..nope, too arrogant!
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
Wow I've never seen a stupider or more deluded comment on Youtube.
StewNWT 4 years ago 3
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I have..tons of them...the gushers and swooners are so intent on defending this skater that some of their comments are downright hilarious and over the top delusional and desperate to boot!
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
Michelle didn't deserve the gold here, Sarah Hughes did. You'll find you've very much alone on your opinion of Michelle Kwan. Let's count em' Michelle, 5 worlds championships, Sasha - none. Sasha Cohen had all the ingredients to be world champion but she was a choke artist who could never string two clean programs together.
StewNWT 4 years ago
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Speaking of choking:) I am much more supported in my opinions which are based on research than you are in your desperate attempts attempts to make Kwan a champion..she isn't and she never will be! And of course Sarah deserved the Gold here..what's your point?
cleareyed1 4 years ago
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Thank you so much for replying to this person...I don't know anything about this new attacker but I stand by MY opinion that Sasha Cohen earned the Bronze here and Kwan was thrown a bone...after all....she is the arrogant KWAN..hopefully, it was an insult and she was humiliated having to skate out to accept it! Sasah beat her by a mile!
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
StewNWT: Wow I've never seen a stupider or more deluded comment on Youtube.
Appropriate part of response from
ithinkformyself: I have..tons of them. (apparently, deluded comments)
What a stupid dolt: ithinkformyself. Perhaps the think part should be in quotes, as it appears to be a subjective term.
leftunattended 4 years ago 5
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Oh, goody you have found a pal to bash me..takes two I guess! So, any comment about Kwannie that isn't gushing and swooning is deluded...nope...all the gushers and swooners are delusional..she is mediocre at best! Medals notwithstanding:)
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
We cried with her when she skated this! She deserved that medal based on talent... It's a testament to her brilliance that, despite her bronze, the crowd stood in awe and admiration She is THE woman's skater of our lifetime! We are lucky to have seen her.
mlc2005 4 years ago 2
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Say what..are you actually saying that Kwan deserved the GOLD medal based on 'talent'? Ummm...a reguritated short and a lousy long program..these aren't to be considered? Good thing the crowd stood..Kwan sure couldn't and the bronze should have gone to Sasha..
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
Seriously go sleep with Sasha if you love her that much. Sasha was very lucky to get a medal at all in Turin, she should have been fourth behind Shizuka, Irina and Fumie. What a retard!!
StewNWT 4 years ago
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I have..tons of them...the gushers and swooners are so intent on defending this skater that some of their comments are downright hilarious and over the top delusional and desperate to boot!
Thank you for making my point:)
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
uh, I would just think carefully about you making a comment linking Ithinkformyself's opinion of the figure skater, Sasha. Ithinkformyself's favorite skater happened to be Tara. I don't have any negative opinions about Tara even though I would not dare bring her up in Kwan's forum.
elisan693 4 years ago
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I am getting sick of having words put into my mouth!!! You don't know my favorite skater(s) or anything else about me so keep your opinions confined to your own preferences, please!
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
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On MK's forum or webiste..whatever..Tara has been trashed as has Sarah Hughes..Emily is called a fat cow...sad..very sad..I don't comment on any forums! And there are videos of Kwan where ONLY POSITIVE comments are allowed...none out there on any other skater..does that tell you something..I am not the only one who doesn't see KWAN as the best!
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
Its not just bullying Tara, or Emily, I've seen people even bullying Yu Na Kim. Its not fair, life is not fair, and mostly people are just pitying others for the fun of it. Maybe if people were to grow up and stop the senseless bullying, then it would be a pleasant experience to critique.
waddleduckie1 4 years ago
MK's Fields of Gold I watched on youtube in March 2007 made me love michelle and figure skating. Since then I've visited MKForum often. I haven't seen threads or posts bashing Tara or Sarah or other skaters. Michelle's fans have a lot of confidences in michelle to be one of the greatest skaters of all time, they don't need to do that trash thing. And most of MK's fans like Yuna Kim too because Yuna mentioned michelle very positive.
rwz7 4 years ago 2
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"they don't need to do that trash thing"
I doubt you have been reading the same MKF that I have for many years. Believe me they do bash and it's all the time. Go back a few pages in Skating Chat or a few years and it's there! Try saying something nice about Tara and see the results you get. Any skater that has beat MK skating will get bashed. Too bad you weren't reading back in 1998!!
woolagirl 4 years ago
I read that 17 year old michelle said: "Tara, I like u", after tara beat her back in 1998 Olys. MK showed her grace on and off the ice. it's not necessary to blame michelle for what her craze fans did. some of yuna ,mao and kimmie's craze fans did some disgraceful things but I still like these sweet girls.
rwz7 4 years ago 5
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Like her as much as you want, but nothing or anyone says that I have too!!! I don't care how many medals she has, don't mean crap to me. If she is as nice as you seem to think, then she would be ashamed of how her so called fans bash others, but she posted on that forum and that tells me what kind of person she really is.
You can have it your way and I'll have it mine. Okay!
woolagirl 4 years ago
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Right on!!! I couldn't agree more...Michelle has her defenders between her and what she REALLY is...not to mention press agents who are great at spin if you are inclined to believe it which I AM NOT!!! I still think Sasha should have won the bronze here..just my opinion.
ithinkformyself 4 years ago
michelle doesn't have official website, she has nothing to do with some of her craze fans' behavior. All kinds of fans don't allow people to criticize their idols or praise their idols' rivals in thier forums, it's so common. if someone want to ruin michelle's reputation or bash her, try some logical excuses next time.
rwz7 4 years ago 6
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I don't like mk and that's that!!! As ithinkformyself says, "she has been held up to many times" and has many 6'0s she didn't deserve. That's my logical excuse!
woolagirl 4 years ago
It's not a logical excuse when u cited someone's non professional opinion saying "many 6'0s mk didn't deserve". gaving titles or 6'0s is judges's job, not skaters' nor ours. But I still respect your opinion with that logical part--you don't like MK whatever she did or not did.
rwz7 4 years ago
No matter what, I truly believe Michelle Kwan defines "champion." She's absolutely amazing!
sHeLLyBuRGeRs 4 years ago
I love it, thnx for posting :)
beautifullXdreamer 4 years ago 2
g8 vid luv da song and dance michelle kwan is g8:)
maniloonie 4 years ago
Thanks for uploading this...it was a passionate skate. Thanks again...I love Michelle Kwan :)
headachebaby 5 years ago
i love michelle kwan! she's very talented!
summerva226 5 years ago 2