@batitombo..he was in the military for 22 years in SOG in vietnam....google operation northwoods and you will see the use of false flag operation in order to invade cube...plus the 2 places that hit wtc had less than 28% capacity were filled with only government officials defense contractor.s...quite odd that years prior if a plane diviates off course or lose contact,they scramble jets to intercept....a little too many coincidents to be operated by hani hanjor who could barely fly a cessna
@batitombo...the point is it is not objective it has a clear purpose of exposing a false flag operation by rouge element within the government....byu professor have found residue of thermite in the steel of the structural frame...the pentagon,the most survailed place on earth has "no" pictures of a boeing 767 hitting the pentagon,neither is it physically possible for a 767 hover above the ground before collapsing into a hole 28 foot wide hole..my grandfather even called bullshit on it
Don't you know that your voice can be faked, and faked so well it can fool a voice identification system. When you call your parents you might say your first name, but not your first, and last name. If flight 93 nosed dived the wreckage wouldn't have been spread over several miles, They found luggage, and pieces of the flight 93 plane miles away from the crash site. Flight 93 was shot down!!!!!!!!!
hey, Elves and leprechauns did it! Anybody but a group of assholes who like killing innocent civilians like in 95, like at Munich, like in Lebanon; it can't be terrorists, they're just not sophisticated enough. Unless you have hard evidence, you're just a conspiracy theory fuck-head
CT'S allways trying to cause trouble with lies. All phone calls proven plus everything else on 9/11 is written in stone to proove you wrong. Learn how to research. Quit reading the "Globe" or "National Inquirer".
With all due respect. Ms Alice Hoglan is not hard of hearing, guitarspeare. Infact, it seems she also refers to her son as "Mark Bingham" which makes it doubly odd!
JssTyger ong never says flight 12, the dispatcher she is talking to does and is corrected by Ong. I was stabbed in the face when I was 15 and my father when calling 9-11 was calm and collected because he was a professional ( and Doctor) like Mrs. Ong was she was doing her job as killfully as she could in a stressfull and terrible situation. My mother is elderly, hard of hearing many times when I call her I have to say either This is Guitarspeare your son or Its Guitarspeare, Guitarspearemacduff
So, in a hurry, with her life in danger, she got the flight number wrong and corrected herself.
You are fucking moron JSS - go play with your Jenga blocks. If you had real evidence you would use it - you have nothing except slander towards the victims.
Betty Ong sounds sooo unbelievably calm! Didn't she know some of those people who have been stabbed? I mean I guess you are supposed to be calm but this is like zero pulse compared to what it should be.
It is beyond nasty to call the victims family members liars and government shills, it is evil to try to taint the memories these people have of their last contact with their loved ones. It is brazenly vile in the extreme
@JMcMac21 nope sorry , the misnamed truth movement makes the dishonset and absolutely heinious claim that the victims families are lying about the last contact with their loved ones. Sorry the B.S. peddling frauds of the truth movement can't make the claim that " for the families of the victims" while disrespceting them like this. Truthers spit on the graves of the victims of 9-11, and show there utter disregard for the victims families by promoting the falsehood that these calls aren't real
@guitarspeare The families have nothing to do with it. But the calls are fake.. Why would Mark Bingham call his mom saying "Mom, this is Mark Bingham" and like this video says, the flight attendant shows no sign of fear not even a quiver.. i apologize if these calls are hard to believe for me. All truthers want is answers... Black boxes... footage(pentagon mostly).. and an explanation of wtc-7.. if those are presented then the "conspiracy theories" will die off.
I have never got my cell phone to work on a flight. Flights were fake. hijacked planes don't fly around for over an hour without any military interception, it's ridiculous.
I have gotten my cell phone to work on flights before. The attendants get anoyed at it. Flights were real. Hijacked planes usually tried to flee the country and land. Our military does not give orders to shoot down civilian aircraft over U.S. skies. You are ridiculous.
anyone who believes these phonecalls were real and that these planes were hijacked can't anwer why a person would call their mom saying their full name " hi mom, this is Mark bingham" haha.....
I agree. That is suspicious. What's worse is she laughs about it in every interview when she recalls it. Like she is embarrased and confused. But, to be fair, OTers say that his mom described Mark Bingham as a business man who used his full name out of habit, even when talking to her, but that really doesn't seem to go along with her laughing. I agree with you though, business man or not, you don't use your last name with your mother. Plus I've never heard his mom say what the OTers say she said
our govt has been staging coup d'etats in countries for decades and assassinating world leaders, and every accepts it, but if you say they staged a coup HERE, you are a whacko..why? Condi rice was warned in July by Tenet, GWB warned on aug 6 and then 4 planes were hijacked and we are to believe that the US govt failed to act 6 times in a row!!!!!!
I think that an FAA regulated airport has the capability to record more than 4 minutes of a call from one of their airliners, from an employee reporting a hijacking in progress. My answering machine from 1984 could record a 30 minute message
There were no arab names on the passenger manifests from any of the planes hijacked that day.
That's questionable. I have yet to see an official flight manifest and would appreciate it if you could link the one you found. The OTers like to say that the Arabic names were not listed because the airlines did not consider them victims and what they released were lists of victims, not including "terrorists".
Just quickly, to address the comment by richard20bris, I didn't notice LC suggest that the passengers of 93 are still alive 'in secret'. It doesn't seem to fit that they would be.
I'm curious about this line of consideration, though. Where did this idea come from? My gut feeling is that it is not true. My gut feeling is that these poor individuals are no longer with us.
As someone who can talk about it now, I'd really like to know the truth.
Forgive me, but it helps my reasoning and opinions.
I want to know what happened. I truly do. The truth, etc. But I spend too much time judging wheat from chaff. This particular point about the validity of the phonecalls from "Flight 93", Hmmm. And that's all I can come up with on this line of consideration.
But based on my research into what 'they' are prepared to do to: Patrice Lamumba, Guatamala, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc, forgive me for considering that the phonecalls are fake. I hope they are not, for the sake of their loved ones.
Listen to all the calls from flight 93, you'll find the truth shocking. Cut and paste this - /watch?v=L8JV3dJEJmA - onto the address bar, you'll hear one caller leave a message. She doesn't properly hang up the phone and someone whispers 'you did great' before the phone is hung up. The other famous call is Mark Bingham, who calls his mother and tells her his name and SURNAME "Hi mon, it's Mark Bingham..." These are tactics used to let others know they are doing something under duress.
What pathetic fools these "Loose Change" nuts are! Absolutely pathetic! I'd like to hear them talk to some of the relatives of the people who died in Flight 93 and get their thoughts regarding whether or not their husbands/wives/sons/daughters are still actually alive and living somewhere in secret!
What rambling? Anyway, my point is that Loose Change is considered flawed by many researchers in the so-called truth movement, who have themselves debunked it on occasion. The government's story has many weaknesses that should be looked into. You shouldn't BUY anyone's story, is my point.
See this is the thing with the 9/11 conspiracies they take quotes and info out of context just to support their claims good video man and keep up the good work dude
i think i have thoroughly made my point..that for every EXPERT you have discounting the proof us Truthers or "Conspiracy Theorists" put on the table..we have plenty more EXPERTS to say the opposite..so again I ask..what makes your experts any more reliable than mine?
it's not only about experts. it's mainly about logic. i said before how can a "near realtime" voice transformer fool the loved ones of the victims? having to ask this question to you is proof that you can't think logically...
& the experts say LOGICALLY there was no way for those phone calls to be made..do ya see the point im making here..we both have sources that are arguing different points of the story...my experts say (using logical deduction) that there was no way those calls could have been made (the ones from cell phones) and your experts say the phone calls were possible but what is impossible is the voice duplication..since neither of our scientist nor were we there that day..i guess were in the same boat
the majority of the calls were made from airphones and some from cell phones. the voice transformer hypothesis is bullcrap. and 9/11 proved that cell phone calls were/are possible from planes.
hahahaha...yes, all of that is true..according to your sources..but according to mine..its not true...i dont know much about voice transformers and what not..nor do i think that that is possible..i think they were staged phone calls..made for the purpose of putting out information so that everyine would automatically believe the story..personally...and my boat isnt gay..its very straight thanks...(maybe i should mention im a girl..cause i say girly things sometimes like in the same boat)
btw I don't really care what any experts say. simple reason just proves the conspiracy hypothesis is bs. nothing adds up in their storIES. they don't even agree on one scenario. they have no clue about anything. the wanna tell us that the perpetrators are super geniuses and at the same time wanna make us believe they are freakishly stupid when the story doesn't really fit.
In my experience..many of the "conspiracy theorists" DONT KNOW what happened and do venture guesses on both ends of the sprectrum..however, many of them are like me and not so much thinking up the CRAZY ideas and more trying to get answers..they just question the official story..and if you REALLY think about it there are alot of holes in the official story..we just want to fill them in either way...and the more the government refuses, the more it stinks of CONSPIRACY!..i hate that word btw
I, Like everyone else, am not sure what happened..but based on the information I have been given by various sources..it seems to me that SOME...not all of these phone calls have been fabricated...Betty Ong and Mark Bingham..I do believe those calls were made..based solely on the fact that they were recorded from AirFones..but i think there is more to their stories than just what is told..
Research tells me that the chances that those phone calls were actually connected are slim to none..maybe if one or two phone calls were made from cell phones i can believe that against the odds they connected to their loved ones.. but dozens of phone calls being connected when there was what? a slim chance that it would? seems strange to me..and like i said in my previous statement..i am not discounting the fact that people were in those planes..i am discounting the story we were told..
no based on research that tells us that some parts of the story we were told was impossible..you get your opinion from the same place as mine..experts who say what could and couldnt have happened...but just as you have plenty of sources who are experts there are plenty on our side who discount what yall and the official story have told us..so why are your experts any more right than mine? I guess noone will ever know the real truth it will always be just SPECULATION
"At lower altitudes the probability of connection changes from impossible to varying degrees of "unlikely." But here, a different phenomenon asserts itself, a phenomenon that cannot be tested in a propellor-driven light aircraft. At 500 miles per hour, a low-flying aircraft passes over each cell in a very short time. For example if a cell (area serviced by a given cellsite) were a mile in diameter, the aircraft would be in it for one to eight seconds.-
(Continued i think you need to read from the bottom up)-Before a cellphone call can go through, the device must complete an electronic "handshake" with the cellsite servicing the call. This handshake can hardly be completed in eight seconds.When the aircraft comes into the next cell, the call must be "handed off" to the new cellsite.This process also absorbs seconds of time.Together, the two requirements for a successful and continuous call would appear-
(Continued)-to absorb too much time for a speaking connection to be established. Sooner or later, the call is "dropped."
Hi,
"I am an RF design engineer, having built out Sprint, Verizon and another network in New Orleans. You are absolutely correct. We have trouble making these things work for cars going 55 mph on the ground. If you need another engineer's testimony for any reason, let me know I will corroborate."
(I have deleted his e-mail and web page site for his privacy)
"I'd also like to bring up the point of airspeed, which is what made the cell calls a red-flag for me in the first place. I'm not sure what your top speed achieved in the small plane was, but, in a large airliner travelling at no less than 450mph, most cell phones wouldn't be able to transit cells fast enough to maintain a connection .. and we're talking 2001 cell technology besides, which in that period, was known to drop calls made from cars travelling above 70mph on the freeway"
and one more-"While the information provided by the Commission is scanty, the Report's timeline does not suggest that the planes were consistently traveling at low altitude. In fact the Report confirms that a fair number of the cell phone calls were placed while the plane was traveling at altitudes above 8000 feet, which is considered as the cutoff altitude for cell phone transmission."
OKay a few things...i can see yall argue about this so i will first say..im not here to name-call or argue just simply state my opinion...Betty Ong: She may not have seen the people being stabbed but she describes a hijacking which is a stressful situation and she shows no stress in her voice..just calm relation of the facts..although i agree that that does not necassarily make this call a fake that just means that she was extremely calm in a less-than ordinary situation..
Continued:..Mark Bingham: Very good point that his mother makes about how he was a business man and was used to introducing himself over the phone in that manner..however, anyone listening to that could say that that was a strange call..how he kept asking if his mother belived him and couldnt describe the hi-jsckers and in fact was pulled away from the phone every time his mother asked that of him.
Continued: Cell Phone Calls- Yes, Loose Change does say that Mark Bingham and Betty Ong used AirFones to call..Which is true. But your argument that that alone disproves the theory that cell phone calls were not able to be made..is basically faulty..There were several other phone calls made that day supposedly from cell phones and i do believe that Loose Change did discuss those calls as well. I believe one was a recorded one that began on an Airfone and then continued on a cell phone.
And as for the rest of the arguments..Personally i find them very shaky..More like your saying what you think was possible rather than using facts to back up what your saying..does that make sense..maybe not..but anyways it was a well made video and you have SOME valid arguments..it still wasnt enough to convince me though..i would never mar the names of those who died on those planes by saying it never happened i belive it HAPPENED people died..but not the way we were told..thanks
if yes how were they faked? how can a "near real time" voice changer deceive the parents and loved ones that they did NOT share their last moments on earth with their sons and families? it is simply not possible...
btw my arguement that they used mostly airphones is not my only argument and is not faulty at all. try watching the vid again if you didn't understand everything
Continued..I fully understood all of the points you made and that is why i explained my opinion on each as given..and i was simply stating the fact that in this video the only point you gave to counter that specific point was that the calls were made from AirFones not cell phones where in fact only SOME of the calls were made from Airfones and many were claimed to be made on cell phones..therefore..that adds room for error in your statement..hence my opinion that it was faulty..
Well, its funny you should know that since the Commision Report itself cant seem to get it straight."Each call was initially reported as coming from a cellphone. Later, when skepticism reared its ugly head and the Grassy Knollers arrived, the narrative became fuzzy; it was suggested that $10-a-minute Airfones were involved. Olson was an easy candidate for Airfone, but as the stories developed, Olson—and Felt—were said to have called from inside locked lavatories. No Airfone there."
haha im the 17 year old retard making 2 years worth of your salaray in one year, ok bud :) keep thinking how great you are and how much you think you know, cause it seems to be going places for you? LMFAO YOUR SO GOD DAMN PATHETIC GIVE UP. STOP GIVING ME REASONS TO CALL YOU FUCKING DUMB, GET REAL! YOUR SO DUMB! AHHHHH! DUMB DUMB DUMB!!
read my commments, ive said what i need to :) you KNOW how stupid you are. Theres no sense of me telling you for the 293 time right? I think, scratch that, I KNOW people like you dont live very long, so take advantge of the time your here! CHEEERS CHUMP
For people to not have common sense and see the truth of the matter, i feel bad for everyone that comes in contact with your life. You truly are the scum of the earth, and deserve to die with the rest of the corrupt sons a bitches you support. Your life has no value, your words are a waste of our oxygen. Stop living, you'd help the world alot more :) P.S how do you get internet living under a rock? also, who would employ such people for a job?! dont they have regulations agaisnt hiring retards?
a towel head taliban punjabi rebel can make it happen watch?v=vluEO57_YlQ
they just have to hijack the plane and slam it into the buildings
the govt couldnt have kept the whole plan a secret before during and afte 911. noone can come up with hard evidence. all u have is seculation strawman arguments and lies
u cant prove one single person that is in on it, yet thousands must have been involved in the planning and execution and the cover up
You are an idiot! Bragging about your salary...who gives a crap!! Then saying people deserve to die because they disagree with you!..and all your foul language! You can easily tell that you are young and very ignorant! I wouldn't wish death upon you and most logical and sane people would not, but a punch in the mouth would probably be in order!
As for the proof, type in the youtube search bar, 9/11 proof of bombs, explosions, anything you name it. There will be 10/1 times more videos proving the use of CD and inside/prior knowledge to the events, why would i wasted my time showing you proof when the proof is your fucking common sense. Get real you ignorant shit, no towel head taliban punjabi rebels bitches would be able to make something of that scale and complextity a reality.
wow, you REALLY have no life. The CAPS are for EMPHASIS, to make it clear to you thick skulled ignorant dumb not worth being alive type people. Like ive said in my 23789523 posts to this sorry loser, 911MmRy, he clearly cant admit deafeat as he continues to comment my posts. Get real, i dont care what you have to say, its bullshit and NEVER has made sense. Go to court, man, you really need to get your head out of your ass, who would waste the money to go AGAINST the american gouvernment? Retard
im not wasting my time anyone on ignorant people like you. You NAZI. Maybe thats why your just as dumb as americans, HITLER AND BUSH are identical. They both used FEAR and PROPAGANDA to make the whole fucking nation believe every word they say. But its ok. I will never become some stupid fuck that actually believes his government, one thing you have to learn is ppl. with power are ALWAYS corrupt.
sorry, 1340F, not 1500F, my bad. Those temps were also taken up to 21 days later? So yes, 1500F was possible during the event itself you muppet. The videos you told me to watche only makes me think that ron guy is even stupider then sorry fucking ass. Your both stupid ignorant fucks, that ron guy said nothing that explained anything. Just alternatives to what he believes, and i you cant bullshit a bullshitter, i am one. I can tell that stupid fuck is a bullshitter.
i think u r some one who wants to believe in this conspiracy theory and rejects every answer u get from everyone who doesnt agree with your theories. yes theories. u cters all have thousands of theories and say u r "spreading the truth"... even though they always contradict themselves. missile plane no plane plane? cell phone call faked not faked? hijackers faked not faked? and your recent contradiction with the heros of flight 93;)
thats why they feed of idiots like you who dont believe the truth, and continue to fuck over their own country in order to gain more power and money. If you had any intelligence what so ever, you would clearly see how much the american and allied governments fucked up on this inside job. (common sense helps) This also proves how dumb the ppl. involved are to think they would get away with an INSIDE JOB of this scale. FAR TOO BIG AND DEVASTATING TO GET AWAY WITH. FUCK BUSH. Stupid fucking redneck
I find it amusing how level headed and nonviolent the people are that do not buy into this conspiracy nonsense. Then you have the CT wackos such as smokemoreweed.Their comments are always full of hate, Ignorance, foul language,wishing death upon people etc. and these people are the all tolerant, peaceful liberals who supposedly are seeking the truth..ridiculous!
Read your facts chump. There is more then 1073456034760 times the evidence pointing toward INSIDE JOB you ignorant fuck. I dont know how ppl on this earth could be as dumb as you and all your stupid fucks who dont think it was an inside job. It's people like you the real terrorists (government) take advantage of. They take advantage of your weakness, your ignorance, and use FEAR to induce a sense of unity throughout the country. Without ppl. like you, the government's plans would never work.
at least the majority of this so called evidence has been debunked chump;)
u seem to just see the collapses, dont understand why they fell and make it really easy for yourself and just let yourself in the believe they must have been blown up.
well u not understanding it does not entitle u to call anyone responsible for 911. and it certainly doesnt entitle u to shit on the memory of the victims
SmokeMoreWeed: If there is all this evidence of an inside job, provide me the proof. Or better yet goto court. Also, TYPING IN CAPS ISN'T REALLY LIKE YELLING IN REAL LIFE. IT'S ONLY ANNOYING!!!
i do know how they fell. Planted explosives brought down the steel columns which made each building simultaniously collapse. A feat physically impossible for buildings to achieve free fall speed encountering no resistance what so ever. Molten hot spots were recorded 5 days after with tempuratures of 1500F. Jet fuel burns 500 degrees less then that. Physically impossible for the towers to be brought down by "structural failure" when no building has ever collapsed due to "fire".
wow every answer you gave me sounded like you have no fucking clue what your talking bout. Like I said, get your head out of your ass, how fucking dumb can you possibly be to not see explosives used in the 3 towers and WTC7 wasnt hit by a plane? Watch some movies you fuck stick you'll see all the evidence that proves 100% ! no your gay 99.99% you fucking cunt. Get owned
has bush been under oath? No. Why did him and the VP ask to speak to 9/11 comission together, under their own terms. No recording what so ever, no transcript, nothing. I mean i didnt think americans where that stupid to believe the person who blew up buildings using explosives on his own country would tell them the truth. Your so fucking dumb it makes me want to kill babies.
These situations cause adrenaline to pump and make you have the will to live and do things you normally wouldnt. Im positive a bunch of americans in a group would not let 3-6 towel head sand nigs take the plane hostage regardless if they had box cutters and bombs. They didnt act upon the situation and just watched the hijackers take the plan from infront of them, does that seem brave and patriotic? The type of shit your country preaches? 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB GET YOUR FUCKING HEAD OUT OFYOURASS
I'm no american so your patriot theory leads nowhere.
and there speak so much things to 911 not being an inside job that one can say it is 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% not an inside job
911MmRy you are one stupid son of a bitch that is mind controlled by your pathetic american governmnent. Get your head out of your ass, your telling me if you were on one of those flights and 3 scronny towel heads were waiving around box cutters, you and lets see, the other 40 ppl. wouldnt smash their fucking skulls in? I dont know if you ever have been in a near death experience, being on a hijacked flight is fucking a near death as you can get.
on one flight exactly that happened and u guys say it didnt happen yet u now say it would have happened in all flights? make up your mind and dont rabble shit around!
This is the biggest problem with Loose Change. They have real evidence for the conspiracy in other parts, but I guess that's not dramatic enough. They just HAD to go overboard with the most ridiculous claim of the century. And considering how early it is in the century, that's saying a lot.
Also it is a very retarded theory: to make such voice emulator work, you have to record the voices of the people you want to emulate, some time before using it. Many people called, so that would have to be planned many days in advance... also: do it live, and talking in the same way as a person, which the relative have known for years - that is sick and unrealistic.
There were no phone calls made from ANY of the aircraft involved in the event. Family members saying that they received calls are lying or deluded.
MrTurbochargd 13 hours ago
@batitombo..he was in the military for 22 years in SOG in vietnam....google operation northwoods and you will see the use of false flag operation in order to invade cube...plus the 2 places that hit wtc had less than 28% capacity were filled with only government officials defense contractor.s...quite odd that years prior if a plane diviates off course or lose contact,they scramble jets to intercept....a little too many coincidents to be operated by hani hanjor who could barely fly a cessna
jefferygangwish1982 6 months ago
@batitombo...the point is it is not objective it has a clear purpose of exposing a false flag operation by rouge element within the government....byu professor have found residue of thermite in the steel of the structural frame...the pentagon,the most survailed place on earth has "no" pictures of a boeing 767 hitting the pentagon,neither is it physically possible for a 767 hover above the ground before collapsing into a hole 28 foot wide hole..my grandfather even called bullshit on it
jefferygangwish1982 6 months ago
@911MmRy
Great Work!!!
Northeastbaseball 1 year ago
Don't you know that your voice can be faked, and faked so well it can fool a voice identification system. When you call your parents you might say your first name, but not your first, and last name. If flight 93 nosed dived the wreckage wouldn't have been spread over several miles, They found luggage, and pieces of the flight 93 plane miles away from the crash site. Flight 93 was shot down!!!!!!!!!
jimsanders1 1 year ago
is this a anti-conspiracy propaganda channel ????
EwokFuica 2 years ago
I don't know, but if it were me...i would be screaming
waitEveryday 2 years ago
hey, Elves and leprechauns did it! Anybody but a group of assholes who like killing innocent civilians like in 95, like at Munich, like in Lebanon; it can't be terrorists, they're just not sophisticated enough. Unless you have hard evidence, you're just a conspiracy theory fuck-head
deadwood64 2 years ago
shut up, stupid person,
wanna talk about hiroshima and nagasaki?
9/11=inside job
thedayitriedtodie 2 years ago
CT'S allways trying to cause trouble with lies. All phone calls proven plus everything else on 9/11 is written in stone to proove you wrong. Learn how to research. Quit reading the "Globe" or "National Inquirer".
unitedflight93heroes 2 years ago
With all due respect. Ms Alice Hoglan is not hard of hearing, guitarspeare. Infact, it seems she also refers to her son as "Mark Bingham" which makes it doubly odd!
?v=IkWUSs7lNzY at 0:45
Come on man. When do you just say this is one oddity too many?
Another oddity is the missing yearbook in the school library.
JSSTyger 2 years ago
"When do you just say this is one oddity too many?"
When a man of science spends his days defaming the memory of the victims of 911 once too many times, it becomes to much.
JSS is a child with a keyboard.
Wacka twoofer - it makes for a good day.
Denierbud11 2 years ago
Bingham: Hi mom, this is Mark Bingham
Ong: Flight 12
Anonymous: (to husband) Tell MY children...
Barb Olsen 1: I used the airphone because I didn't have my purse and credit card to call collect
Barb Olsen 2: Oops I mean I called from my cell phone and called collect. Of course, however, I don't need to call collect if I'm using my cell phone
ROFL the OCT'ers believe this shit!
JSSTyger 2 years ago
JssTyger ong never says flight 12, the dispatcher she is talking to does and is corrected by Ong. I was stabbed in the face when I was 15 and my father when calling 9-11 was calm and collected because he was a professional ( and Doctor) like Mrs. Ong was she was doing her job as killfully as she could in a stressfull and terrible situation. My mother is elderly, hard of hearing many times when I call her I have to say either This is Guitarspeare your son or Its Guitarspeare, Guitarspearemacduff
guitarspeare 2 years ago
She does say flight 12...its just not in this video. If you listen to the whole convo she initially says flight 12.
JSSTyger 2 years ago
So, in a hurry, with her life in danger, she got the flight number wrong and corrected herself.
You are fucking moron JSS - go play with your Jenga blocks. If you had real evidence you would use it - you have nothing except slander towards the victims.
Denierbud11 2 years ago
Why does this "business man" "Mark Bingham" crap seem to only apply to Mark Bingham? You people will accept whatever you are told!!
Did you know Mark Bingham's high school yearbook was removed from the school library? Its the only one missing apparently.
You people are letting actors and computer imaging fool you.
JSSTyger 2 years ago
Betty Ong sounds sooo unbelievably calm! Didn't she know some of those people who have been stabbed? I mean I guess you are supposed to be calm but this is like zero pulse compared to what it should be.
JSSTyger 2 years ago
why is it "peculiarly nasty" to call the cell phone calls peculiar?
JSSTyger 2 years ago
It is beyond nasty to call the victims family members liars and government shills, it is evil to try to taint the memories these people have of their last contact with their loved ones. It is brazenly vile in the extreme
guitarspeare 2 years ago 7
@guitarspeare the victims families aren't the liars.. it's already tainted with lies.
JMcMac21 1 month ago
@JMcMac21 nope sorry , the misnamed truth movement makes the dishonset and absolutely heinious claim that the victims families are lying about the last contact with their loved ones. Sorry the B.S. peddling frauds of the truth movement can't make the claim that " for the families of the victims" while disrespceting them like this. Truthers spit on the graves of the victims of 9-11, and show there utter disregard for the victims families by promoting the falsehood that these calls aren't real
guitarspeare 1 month ago
@guitarspeare The families have nothing to do with it. But the calls are fake.. Why would Mark Bingham call his mom saying "Mom, this is Mark Bingham" and like this video says, the flight attendant shows no sign of fear not even a quiver.. i apologize if these calls are hard to believe for me. All truthers want is answers... Black boxes... footage(pentagon mostly).. and an explanation of wtc-7.. if those are presented then the "conspiracy theories" will die off.
JMcMac21 1 month ago
Fuck Loose Change!
porcelaintrampxo 2 years ago
I have never got my cell phone to work on a flight. Flights were fake. hijacked planes don't fly around for over an hour without any military interception, it's ridiculous.
benedictrove 3 years ago
I have gotten my cell phone to work on flights before. The attendants get anoyed at it. Flights were real. Hijacked planes usually tried to flee the country and land. Our military does not give orders to shoot down civilian aircraft over U.S. skies. You are ridiculous.
Laysoles 3 years ago 2
Mate, you got a point!
stroppyloppy 3 years ago
LOOSE CHANGE IS THE BEST!!!
PimpDaddy8712 3 years ago 2
anyone who believes these phonecalls were real and that these planes were hijacked can't anwer why a person would call their mom saying their full name " hi mom, this is Mark bingham" haha.....
ebmirador 3 years ago
I agree. That is suspicious. What's worse is she laughs about it in every interview when she recalls it. Like she is embarrased and confused. But, to be fair, OTers say that his mom described Mark Bingham as a business man who used his full name out of habit, even when talking to her, but that really doesn't seem to go along with her laughing. I agree with you though, business man or not, you don't use your last name with your mother. Plus I've never heard his mom say what the OTers say she said
bweazel 3 years ago
Have some fucking respect dickhead!
stroppyloppy 3 years ago
our govt has been staging coup d'etats in countries for decades and assassinating world leaders, and every accepts it, but if you say they staged a coup HERE, you are a whacko..why? Condi rice was warned in July by Tenet, GWB warned on aug 6 and then 4 planes were hijacked and we are to believe that the US govt failed to act 6 times in a row!!!!!!
dave87gn 3 years ago
I think that an FAA regulated airport has the capability to record more than 4 minutes of a call from one of their airliners, from an employee reporting a hijacking in progress. My answering machine from 1984 could record a 30 minute message
There were no arab names on the passenger manifests from any of the planes hijacked that day.
iconoclast911 3 years ago
That's questionable. I have yet to see an official flight manifest and would appreciate it if you could link the one you found. The OTers like to say that the Arabic names were not listed because the airlines did not consider them victims and what they released were lists of victims, not including "terrorists".
bweazel 3 years ago
Just quickly, to address the comment by richard20bris, I didn't notice LC suggest that the passengers of 93 are still alive 'in secret'. It doesn't seem to fit that they would be.
I'm curious about this line of consideration, though. Where did this idea come from? My gut feeling is that it is not true. My gut feeling is that these poor individuals are no longer with us.
As someone who can talk about it now, I'd really like to know the truth.
Forgive me, but it helps my reasoning and opinions.
naganokumas 3 years ago
Sorry. Patrice Lumumba, not Patrice Lamumba.
naganokumas 3 years ago
I want to know what happened. I truly do. The truth, etc. But I spend too much time judging wheat from chaff. This particular point about the validity of the phonecalls from "Flight 93", Hmmm. And that's all I can come up with on this line of consideration.
But based on my research into what 'they' are prepared to do to: Patrice Lamumba, Guatamala, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc, forgive me for considering that the phonecalls are fake. I hope they are not, for the sake of their loved ones.
naganokumas 3 years ago
Listen to all the calls from flight 93, you'll find the truth shocking. Cut and paste this - /watch?v=L8JV3dJEJmA - onto the address bar, you'll hear one caller leave a message. She doesn't properly hang up the phone and someone whispers 'you did great' before the phone is hung up. The other famous call is Mark Bingham, who calls his mother and tells her his name and SURNAME "Hi mon, it's Mark Bingham..." These are tactics used to let others know they are doing something under duress.
rarosera 3 years ago
this is not objective @ all
batitombo 3 years ago
1st why?
2nd LC is totally not objective at all
911MmRy 3 years ago 2
@911MmRy 00:10 Subjective annotation.
JSHKYS 1 year ago
p.s. there would be a receipt from airphone on his MC or Visa...
varickwt 3 years ago
oh yeah since you were not in the plane how do you know what happened?
varickwt 3 years ago
why is this proving your point?
varickwt 3 years ago
What pathetic fools these "Loose Change" nuts are! Absolutely pathetic! I'd like to hear them talk to some of the relatives of the people who died in Flight 93 and get their thoughts regarding whether or not their husbands/wives/sons/daughters are still actually alive and living somewhere in secret!
richard20bris 3 years ago
If the government went to all the trouble of killing all those people, WOULDN'T they kill Dylan Avery and anyone who follows his pathetic lead?
TheWebMagician 3 years ago 12
@TheWebMagician LOL Alex Jones has been saying for a long time now that "they're" after him yet he still has his show....
LittlePinky82 1 year ago
@TheWebMagician because the majority already is brainwashed and beieves the media and the lies of the government...like yourself.
JMcMac21 1 month ago
so I guess Verizon wireless is also involved??.. LOL LOL
pheil58 3 years ago
You can debunk Loose Change all you want, it does little to give credence to the government's story.
iwanttowatchsomethin 3 years ago
you can rant your deluded ramblings all you want, it does nothing to change anything;-)
911MmRy 3 years ago 2
What rambling? Anyway, my point is that Loose Change is considered flawed by many researchers in the so-called truth movement, who have themselves debunked it on occasion. The government's story has many weaknesses that should be looked into. You shouldn't BUY anyone's story, is my point.
iwanttowatchsomethin 3 years ago 2
See this is the thing with the 9/11 conspiracies they take quotes and info out of context just to support their claims good video man and keep up the good work dude
Revalations20 3 years ago
thx man
can you understand how cters can watch this video and still can talk themselves into believing their "truther" crap? I sure don't...
911MmRy 3 years ago
i think i have thoroughly made my point..that for every EXPERT you have discounting the proof us Truthers or "Conspiracy Theorists" put on the table..we have plenty more EXPERTS to say the opposite..so again I ask..what makes your experts any more reliable than mine?
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
it's not only about experts. it's mainly about logic. i said before how can a "near realtime" voice transformer fool the loved ones of the victims? having to ask this question to you is proof that you can't think logically...
911MmRy 3 years ago
& the experts say LOGICALLY there was no way for those phone calls to be made..do ya see the point im making here..we both have sources that are arguing different points of the story...my experts say (using logical deduction) that there was no way those calls could have been made (the ones from cell phones) and your experts say the phone calls were possible but what is impossible is the voice duplication..since neither of our scientist nor were we there that day..i guess were in the same boat
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
the majority of the calls were made from airphones and some from cell phones. the voice transformer hypothesis is bullcrap. and 9/11 proved that cell phone calls were/are possible from planes.
I'm not in your gay boat;-)
911MmRy 3 years ago
hahahaha...yes, all of that is true..according to your sources..but according to mine..its not true...i dont know much about voice transformers and what not..nor do i think that that is possible..i think they were staged phone calls..made for the purpose of putting out information so that everyine would automatically believe the story..personally...and my boat isnt gay..its very straight thanks...(maybe i should mention im a girl..cause i say girly things sometimes like in the same boat)
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
the gay boat comment was a joke;-)
and I don't think saying "in the same boat" is girlish... but whatever
when you're a girl why do you call yourself Mr.?
911MmRy 3 years ago
my husband and i use the same account...and i know it was a joke..lol...
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
k
btw I don't really care what any experts say. simple reason just proves the conspiracy hypothesis is bs. nothing adds up in their storIES. they don't even agree on one scenario. they have no clue about anything. the wanna tell us that the perpetrators are super geniuses and at the same time wanna make us believe they are freakishly stupid when the story doesn't really fit.
911MmRy 3 years ago
In my experience..many of the "conspiracy theorists" DONT KNOW what happened and do venture guesses on both ends of the sprectrum..however, many of them are like me and not so much thinking up the CRAZY ideas and more trying to get answers..they just question the official story..and if you REALLY think about it there are alot of holes in the official story..we just want to fill them in either way...and the more the government refuses, the more it stinks of CONSPIRACY!..i hate that word btw
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
"trying to get answers"
most of em ignore answers and insult the people that provide them. shill, disinfo agent, right wing bush lover? does that ring a bell?
the conspiracy theories are nothing but holes, contradictions and paranoid fantasies.
and there is no "official story"
your cter friends just told you that. the govt doesnt care what you think. or else they would have conducted a new investigation.
that "official story" as you call it has no holes it's a simple short story
911MmRy 3 years ago
They don't agree on one scenario because they are independent researchers rather than a committee seeking consensus. This is true with many things.
iwanttowatchsomethin 3 years ago
I, Like everyone else, am not sure what happened..but based on the information I have been given by various sources..it seems to me that SOME...not all of these phone calls have been fabricated...Betty Ong and Mark Bingham..I do believe those calls were made..based solely on the fact that they were recorded from AirFones..but i think there is more to their stories than just what is told..
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
Research tells me that the chances that those phone calls were actually connected are slim to none..maybe if one or two phone calls were made from cell phones i can believe that against the odds they connected to their loved ones.. but dozens of phone calls being connected when there was what? a slim chance that it would? seems strange to me..and like i said in my previous statement..i am not discounting the fact that people were in those planes..i am discounting the story we were told..
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
"i am discounting the story we were told.."
based on logic fallacy and speculation that is based on nothing
911MmRy 3 years ago
no based on research that tells us that some parts of the story we were told was impossible..you get your opinion from the same place as mine..experts who say what could and couldnt have happened...but just as you have plenty of sources who are experts there are plenty on our side who discount what yall and the official story have told us..so why are your experts any more right than mine? I guess noone will ever know the real truth it will always be just SPECULATION
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
"At lower altitudes the probability of connection changes from impossible to varying degrees of "unlikely." But here, a different phenomenon asserts itself, a phenomenon that cannot be tested in a propellor-driven light aircraft. At 500 miles per hour, a low-flying aircraft passes over each cell in a very short time. For example if a cell (area serviced by a given cellsite) were a mile in diameter, the aircraft would be in it for one to eight seconds.-
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
(Continued i think you need to read from the bottom up)-Before a cellphone call can go through, the device must complete an electronic "handshake" with the cellsite servicing the call. This handshake can hardly be completed in eight seconds.When the aircraft comes into the next cell, the call must be "handed off" to the new cellsite.This process also absorbs seconds of time.Together, the two requirements for a successful and continuous call would appear-
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
(Continued)-to absorb too much time for a speaking connection to be established. Sooner or later, the call is "dropped."
Hi,
"I am an RF design engineer, having built out Sprint, Verizon and another network in New Orleans. You are absolutely correct. We have trouble making these things work for cars going 55 mph on the ground. If you need another engineer's testimony for any reason, let me know I will corroborate."
(I have deleted his e-mail and web page site for his privacy)
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
"I'd also like to bring up the point of airspeed, which is what made the cell calls a red-flag for me in the first place. I'm not sure what your top speed achieved in the small plane was, but, in a large airliner travelling at no less than 450mph, most cell phones wouldn't be able to transit cells fast enough to maintain a connection .. and we're talking 2001 cell technology besides, which in that period, was known to drop calls made from cars travelling above 70mph on the freeway"
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
and one more-"While the information provided by the Commission is scanty, the Report's timeline does not suggest that the planes were consistently traveling at low altitude. In fact the Report confirms that a fair number of the cell phone calls were placed while the plane was traveling at altitudes above 8000 feet, which is considered as the cutoff altitude for cell phone transmission."
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
OKay a few things...i can see yall argue about this so i will first say..im not here to name-call or argue just simply state my opinion...Betty Ong: She may not have seen the people being stabbed but she describes a hijacking which is a stressful situation and she shows no stress in her voice..just calm relation of the facts..although i agree that that does not necassarily make this call a fake that just means that she was extremely calm in a less-than ordinary situation..
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
Continued:..Mark Bingham: Very good point that his mother makes about how he was a business man and was used to introducing himself over the phone in that manner..however, anyone listening to that could say that that was a strange call..how he kept asking if his mother belived him and couldnt describe the hi-jsckers and in fact was pulled away from the phone every time his mother asked that of him.
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
Continued: Cell Phone Calls- Yes, Loose Change does say that Mark Bingham and Betty Ong used AirFones to call..Which is true. But your argument that that alone disproves the theory that cell phone calls were not able to be made..is basically faulty..There were several other phone calls made that day supposedly from cell phones and i do believe that Loose Change did discuss those calls as well. I believe one was a recorded one that began on an Airfone and then continued on a cell phone.
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
And as for the rest of the arguments..Personally i find them very shaky..More like your saying what you think was possible rather than using facts to back up what your saying..does that make sense..maybe not..but anyways it was a well made video and you have SOME valid arguments..it still wasnt enough to convince me though..i would never mar the names of those who died on those planes by saying it never happened i belive it HAPPENED people died..but not the way we were told..thanks
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
so you think the calls were faked?
if yes how were they faked? how can a "near real time" voice changer deceive the parents and loved ones that they did NOT share their last moments on earth with their sons and families? it is simply not possible...
btw my arguement that they used mostly airphones is not my only argument and is not faulty at all. try watching the vid again if you didn't understand everything
911MmRy 3 years ago
Continued..I fully understood all of the points you made and that is why i explained my opinion on each as given..and i was simply stating the fact that in this video the only point you gave to counter that specific point was that the calls were made from AirFones not cell phones where in fact only SOME of the calls were made from Airfones and many were claimed to be made on cell phones..therefore..that adds room for error in your statement..hence my opinion that it was faulty..
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
lc says the majority was made from airphones so what do you want? the calls they were talking about were all from airphones. so what do you want?
911MmRy 3 years ago
Well, its funny you should know that since the Commision Report itself cant seem to get it straight."Each call was initially reported as coming from a cellphone. Later, when skepticism reared its ugly head and the Grassy Knollers arrived, the narrative became fuzzy; it was suggested that $10-a-minute Airfones were involved. Olson was an easy candidate for Airfone, but as the stories developed, Olson—and Felt—were said to have called from inside locked lavatories. No Airfone there."
MrMasidonio 3 years ago
haha im the 17 year old retard making 2 years worth of your salaray in one year, ok bud :) keep thinking how great you are and how much you think you know, cause it seems to be going places for you? LMFAO YOUR SO GOD DAMN PATHETIC GIVE UP. STOP GIVING ME REASONS TO CALL YOU FUCKING DUMB, GET REAL! YOUR SO DUMB! AHHHHH! DUMB DUMB DUMB!!
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
u r the only one that is dumb and doesnt even realize it
911MmRy 4 years ago
SmokeMoreWeed: The dope's getting to you. And you can't claim parents salary on your taxes as income, sorry.
Dertygian 4 years ago
LMAO You probably do not even have a job.
m1rock 3 years ago
read my commments, ive said what i need to :) you KNOW how stupid you are. Theres no sense of me telling you for the 293 time right? I think, scratch that, I KNOW people like you dont live very long, so take advantge of the time your here! CHEEERS CHUMP
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
u believe in a ridiculous conspiracy theory and insult the people that provide sane people with the answers they want
u truely are the scum of the world
I pity u and all people that have to bear your stupidity
911MmRy 4 years ago
For people to not have common sense and see the truth of the matter, i feel bad for everyone that comes in contact with your life. You truly are the scum of the earth, and deserve to die with the rest of the corrupt sons a bitches you support. Your life has no value, your words are a waste of our oxygen. Stop living, you'd help the world alot more :) P.S how do you get internet living under a rock? also, who would employ such people for a job?! dont they have regulations agaisnt hiring retards?
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
u have absolutely no clue whatsoever
a towel head taliban punjabi rebel can make it happen watch?v=vluEO57_YlQ
they just have to hijack the plane and slam it into the buildings
the govt couldnt have kept the whole plan a secret before during and afte 911. noone can come up with hard evidence. all u have is seculation strawman arguments and lies
u cant prove one single person that is in on it, yet thousands must have been involved in the planning and execution and the cover up
911MmRy 4 years ago
people who believe in ridiculous conspiracy theories are the only ones that are retards;)
911MmRy 4 years ago
You are an idiot! Bragging about your salary...who gives a crap!! Then saying people deserve to die because they disagree with you!..and all your foul language! You can easily tell that you are young and very ignorant! I wouldn't wish death upon you and most logical and sane people would not, but a punch in the mouth would probably be in order!
quaheedus 3 years ago
As for the proof, type in the youtube search bar, 9/11 proof of bombs, explosions, anything you name it. There will be 10/1 times more videos proving the use of CD and inside/prior knowledge to the events, why would i wasted my time showing you proof when the proof is your fucking common sense. Get real you ignorant shit, no towel head taliban punjabi rebels bitches would be able to make something of that scale and complextity a reality.
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
exactly u have no common sense
watch?v=Nu1yjD0N5Qo
911MmRy 4 years ago
wow, you REALLY have no life. The CAPS are for EMPHASIS, to make it clear to you thick skulled ignorant dumb not worth being alive type people. Like ive said in my 23789523 posts to this sorry loser, 911MmRy, he clearly cant admit deafeat as he continues to comment my posts. Get real, i dont care what you have to say, its bullshit and NEVER has made sense. Go to court, man, you really need to get your head out of your ass, who would waste the money to go AGAINST the american gouvernment? Retard
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
the whole world against one nation
if the usa were responsible for 911 there would be hard evidence with which the whole world could impeach them
u clearly are a sucker with no clue in life
u r manipualted by a bunch of fucks
911MmRy 4 years ago
I never complained about your crappy caps u stupid dipshit
911MmRy 4 years ago
im not wasting my time anyone on ignorant people like you. You NAZI. Maybe thats why your just as dumb as americans, HITLER AND BUSH are identical. They both used FEAR and PROPAGANDA to make the whole fucking nation believe every word they say. But its ok. I will never become some stupid fuck that actually believes his government, one thing you have to learn is ppl. with power are ALWAYS corrupt.
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
what u have to learn is that there are limits
that the world isnt black and white
that exaggeration and extremism is never right
that because the govt made mistakes and lied that it doesnt mean they have no boundaries
911MmRy 4 years ago
btw u think every german is a NAZI?
911MmRy 4 years ago
sorry, 1340F, not 1500F, my bad. Those temps were also taken up to 21 days later? So yes, 1500F was possible during the event itself you muppet. The videos you told me to watche only makes me think that ron guy is even stupider then sorry fucking ass. Your both stupid ignorant fucks, that ron guy said nothing that explained anything. Just alternatives to what he believes, and i you cant bullshit a bullshitter, i am one. I can tell that stupid fuck is a bullshitter.
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
watch the playlist i gave u
and what about source?
i think u r some one who wants to believe in this conspiracy theory and rejects every answer u get from everyone who doesnt agree with your theories. yes theories. u cters all have thousands of theories and say u r "spreading the truth"... even though they always contradict themselves. missile plane no plane plane? cell phone call faked not faked? hijackers faked not faked? and your recent contradiction with the heros of flight 93;)
911MmRy 4 years ago
thats why they feed of idiots like you who dont believe the truth, and continue to fuck over their own country in order to gain more power and money. If you had any intelligence what so ever, you would clearly see how much the american and allied governments fucked up on this inside job. (common sense helps) This also proves how dumb the ppl. involved are to think they would get away with an INSIDE JOB of this scale. FAR TOO BIG AND DEVASTATING TO GET AWAY WITH. FUCK BUSH. Stupid fucking redneck
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
I have a video i'm gonna upload which really fits in this situation. it's really great. I'm gonna send it to u when i do^^
911MmRy 4 years ago
I find it amusing how level headed and nonviolent the people are that do not buy into this conspiracy nonsense. Then you have the CT wackos such as smokemoreweed.Their comments are always full of hate, Ignorance, foul language,wishing death upon people etc. and these people are the all tolerant, peaceful liberals who supposedly are seeking the truth..ridiculous!
quaheedus 3 years ago
Read your facts chump. There is more then 1073456034760 times the evidence pointing toward INSIDE JOB you ignorant fuck. I dont know how ppl on this earth could be as dumb as you and all your stupid fucks who dont think it was an inside job. It's people like you the real terrorists (government) take advantage of. They take advantage of your weakness, your ignorance, and use FEAR to induce a sense of unity throughout the country. Without ppl. like you, the government's plans would never work.
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
at least the majority of this so called evidence has been debunked chump;)
u seem to just see the collapses, dont understand why they fell and make it really easy for yourself and just let yourself in the believe they must have been blown up.
well u not understanding it does not entitle u to call anyone responsible for 911. and it certainly doesnt entitle u to shit on the memory of the victims
911MmRy 4 years ago
SmokeMoreWeed: If there is all this evidence of an inside job, provide me the proof. Or better yet goto court. Also, TYPING IN CAPS ISN'T REALLY LIKE YELLING IN REAL LIFE. IT'S ONLY ANNOYING!!!
Dertygian 4 years ago
he cant even give sources for his crappy claims...
911MmRy 4 years ago
i do know how they fell. Planted explosives brought down the steel columns which made each building simultaniously collapse. A feat physically impossible for buildings to achieve free fall speed encountering no resistance what so ever. Molten hot spots were recorded 5 days after with tempuratures of 1500F. Jet fuel burns 500 degrees less then that. Physically impossible for the towers to be brought down by "structural failure" when no building has ever collapsed due to "fire".
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
i suggest u watch view_play_list?p=10FD7DC3343A9450
and check the links in the video descriptions. they talk about the metal pools too. and this one is about the pools too watch?v=OrNOkn6cNmA
can u gimme a source which says the pools are 1500°F?
911MmRy 4 years ago
wow every answer you gave me sounded like you have no fucking clue what your talking bout. Like I said, get your head out of your ass, how fucking dumb can you possibly be to not see explosives used in the 3 towers and WTC7 wasnt hit by a plane? Watch some movies you fuck stick you'll see all the evidence that proves 100% ! no your gay 99.99% you fucking cunt. Get owned
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
as i said the hard part is understanding why and how the towers fell. u obviously have no clue of how they fell
911MmRy 4 years ago
has bush been under oath? No. Why did him and the VP ask to speak to 9/11 comission together, under their own terms. No recording what so ever, no transcript, nothing. I mean i didnt think americans where that stupid to believe the person who blew up buildings using explosives on his own country would tell them the truth. Your so fucking dumb it makes me want to kill babies.
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
that he wasnt under oath proves nothing
only proves hes an assshole. but that was clear before.
911MmRy 4 years ago
These situations cause adrenaline to pump and make you have the will to live and do things you normally wouldnt. Im positive a bunch of americans in a group would not let 3-6 towel head sand nigs take the plane hostage regardless if they had box cutters and bombs. They didnt act upon the situation and just watched the hijackers take the plan from infront of them, does that seem brave and patriotic? The type of shit your country preaches? 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB GET YOUR FUCKING HEAD OUT OFYOURASS
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
I'm no american so your patriot theory leads nowhere.
and there speak so much things to 911 not being an inside job that one can say it is 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% not an inside job
911MmRy 4 years ago
911MmRy you are one stupid son of a bitch that is mind controlled by your pathetic american governmnent. Get your head out of your ass, your telling me if you were on one of those flights and 3 scronny towel heads were waiving around box cutters, you and lets see, the other 40 ppl. wouldnt smash their fucking skulls in? I dont know if you ever have been in a near death experience, being on a hijacked flight is fucking a near death as you can get.
SmokeMoreWeed 4 years ago
on one flight exactly that happened and u guys say it didnt happen yet u now say it would have happened in all flights? make up your mind and dont rabble shit around!
btw the hijackers also had bombs on board;)
911MmRy 4 years ago
This is the biggest problem with Loose Change. They have real evidence for the conspiracy in other parts, but I guess that's not dramatic enough. They just HAD to go overboard with the most ridiculous claim of the century. And considering how early it is in the century, that's saying a lot.
herbpastasalad 4 years ago
they have NOTHING in general
not in any part
it's lies
pick and choose facts
leaving out contradictory evidence
quotes out of context
quotes from shocked people from first day or the next day where the least information was available
and pure manipulation;)
911MmRy 4 years ago
The worst thing is how these idiots who made Loose Change insults all the victims of 9/11, by saying that they did not talk to their loved ones.
conspiracydude90210 4 years ago
Also it is a very retarded theory: to make such voice emulator work, you have to record the voices of the people you want to emulate, some time before using it. Many people called, so that would have to be planned many days in advance... also: do it live, and talking in the same way as a person, which the relative have known for years - that is sick and unrealistic.
conspiracydude90210 4 years ago
Great pice of work 911MmRy
blueshadow1996 4 years ago
it's from Screw Loose Change but anyway thx;)
more to come in the next days;)
911MmRy 4 years ago