GB Rally 2008 Sweet Lamb Mikko Hirvonen Roll.wmv

[shane2k9]

marshals are useless

[kennyrally]

They really sucks, finland wiewers would be roll over the car about 10 seconds..

[eircamae86]

Absolute joke.. respect for organisers etc but them lad should be ashamed

[jobyadams]

just to let you know why the spectators did not go to push him back over is because the marchals were telling us not to! then they just flapped arround like headless chickens!!! dont get me wrong marchals do a great job in these rallys but they happened to have a bunch of idiots here unfortunatly for mikko!!!

[looneyfitter]

We ended up pushing him out of that ditch. Scousers to the rescue. Marshalls were jobs worth wankers!!

[marcobrasilgv]

Quando a gente diz que portugues e burro eles acham ruim, esse video prova o que nos falamos. Uma cambada de portuga sentado e nao faz nada, quando faz, faz besteira.

[kankkunen23]

llolo os brasilheiros nem sabem falar! ta calado indio

[Crazy4Wrc]

y are there no spectators helping ... screw safety if i was givin half a chance to even touch his car id run towards da bloody ting!!!

[Mknives]

He better not pull another one of these next weekend if he expects to take down Seb!!

[Spedeeee]

In Finland the wiewers would be roll over the car about 10 seconds. There it takes 2 minutes!

Learn about Finns.

[ThRaShWK]

true! :)

[TJHOW1]

@Spedeeee thats because they are welsh, bit slow upstairs

[SirJazz]

@Spedeeee The crash of Mikko in Finnland last week!!! You were right! it took 30 seconds to roll over and move the car!

Thumps up so everybody knows he was right!

[Spedeeee]

@SirJazz Heh I was in that SS. Mikko crashes about 300 meters forward in my watching place. It was sad that he crashes but fortunately Jari-Matti takes win.

[TheKonaRob]

@Spedeeee it is quite difficult to turn a car back on its wheels.

[rallyramone]

Lots of marshals but they are doing nothing also audience just standing and scratching their asses!

[Chouldentfindanygood]

typical city people ;)

[Gray200]

The car was upside down in a drainage ditch, you can see how much hard it was to roll it over with 8 marshall's. I'm guessing as well as assessing Mikko's they were probably waiting for backup.

[phelpsy2k]

No wonder Mikko was moaning about the marshals.... how long does it take em....... useless......

[Gray200]

If you read there Bib's, its says SAFETY marshalls. I Don't think the priority is get him on the way again. The priority is to make sure that everything is done safely not fast!! Plus, its the FIA that want the spectators kept away from the stage, on any other rally, the marshals would probably have been more than happy to get some help.

[tinyzukimonster970]

There was more than enough time for checking and a screaming finnish rally driver isn't going to say he is bruised please retire me is he?? . I know about the spectator bit that is why marshalling the Rally gb is a farce!

[aidyh1]

embaracing to watch british marshals .... crap

[theparsa88]

which one have better sounding engine..C4 vs Focus.....yep.C4

[gaz2go]

Thats what i call being in the right place at the right time! I'd be well happy with that footage! Made standing in the rain worth while!?

[jkand]

Turn it over!!!! All the spectators should have run like mad cows to the car and turn it.

Hirvonen said in Finnish tv that in rally Finland the car would have been turned in 2 mins max. But he laughed about it so no bad feelings.

[cyanidemusic]

....once engine running and in gear obviously we it is then the drivers duty to get him self back on track, we can't really do much.

mext he reverses Well off the edge of the bank in which we try our best to recover. marshals did nothing wrong!!!

[tinyzukimonster970]

no just slow and too many!, but as it his duty give him help at least you supposedly know the situation!!

[cyanidemusic]

well explained.i was down there turning the car over. and anytime wasted was either to ensure the driver and co driver was ok before we made a decision to turn him over. when he was back up, we were waiting for 1. to see if his car was even able to be moved or driven, then waiting for the driver to start the car then get it int gear.

[tinyzukimonster970]

I do the same in off-roading and the same priority but to give the driver help, he would rather be on his wheels! get the car moved if you are worried about safety. you would be able to tell if was able to be driven when it was upside down and just after the accident, it was obvious it could be driven, it can be driven with 3 wheels and a trashed bodywork, off roaders regulary do this so does that mean common off-roaders drive better than the top wrc blokes??

[numptybaws3]

Wish id been down wales at the weekend to see all this happen

[Telfordhornets]

Wanna watch a really gd vid - watch rallydude777 HD vid. Top effort.

[rallydude777]

thanks alot m8 lol,

look at all ur views on ur vid!! well done lol

[cyanidemusic]

between 50-1.28 marshals were ensusing Miko was not hurt. 1.28-2.15 marshals were waiting for Miko to get his engine going and find his gear. 2.15 -3.30 marshals were pushing him out the ditch. Marshals were not shit. its just the problem of species not aloud to help. well done to the Marshal that took the bollocking for allowing the croud down the hill.

[altern8ive]

that was one of the shoddiest acts of marshalling i've seen in years. completely clueless!

[wisniorek]

rapid reaction my ass!!

[rallydude777]

gd vid mate

check out mine but from a different angle in HD!!

[riggburn]

where was the rapid reaction of the marshalls?? spectators would of ad im out loads quicker in the good old days...

[Gray200]

I don't think this angle shows you exactly how far in the ditch he was, they couldn't even get the doors open he was that far in the ditch!

Its easy to say what was done wrong when you stood watching.

[DamonBlandBeii]

If I Was Honest I Would Say I Was Standing Right Next To You

[h226ahg]

traying 2 hard

[emupushedrodhull]

when i'm watching that the "Benny hill theme tune" seems appropriate. good video

[itschrispy]

shocking, never would have thought h&s would have got this bad, they'll have to change rules regarding crashes is this becomes the norm.

[kev0202]

absolutley pathetic display from the marshals!prime example of the growing number of clueless power hungry idiots that are giving the majority of sound, knowlegdable marshals and bad name and turning away many of the sports traditional fanbase.

if specys were allowed that car woulda been back on road in 30secs. health and safety ruins yet another motorsport.well done thanks for that!not to mention severly hampering fords manufactures title bid!

[tinyzukimonster970]

I know that but it is Wales Rally GB not a normal stage rally!! too many crowd control I am not a believer in H&S either

[Annicemodel]

'thay're never gona get that moving' yea ok, well done Marshall's on getting him going, stupid knob head speckys just standing about doing nowt yet again,rally's dont happen without marshals, can speckys say the same !

[tinyzukimonster970]

I think because they aren't allowed to unlike 10-15 years ago, it is called H&S.

[tinyzukimonster970]

oi!! most aren't Welsh!! I am only 30mins from both Walters and Sweetlamb but I have to pay to be on a scheme run by My Sweet A*** and go on 3 national rallies and go on a training day! twice a year, but seems you don't! I have marshalled for 3 years in off road events and Dad a lot longer (ex co-driver) and this is very surprising what the MSA let through. I blame the English! haha

[Gassolinebonce]

Any footage of a few seconds after this where the spectators help to get him out?

[Telfordhornets]

there is now

[0086JASG]

I normally have A LOT of respect for marshalls but this is a farse

[fordwrc2006]

The spectators should of done it they have more enthuisaum.

[fordwrc2006]

LOL the bloke who shouts "Ever Bin to a Rally" 2:11 LOL Quality

[sklma]

If it was not for marshalls these events could not go ahead for your enjoyment yes some are trained and some are novices but not every one can get to the training courses. My husband is a marshall down there he has had some marshall training. But he has been doing marshalling for approx 2 years and is pretty good at it.

[cos140]

quote: Marshalls are unpaid volunteers. Give them some respect.............

Maybe so, but if your going o volunteer perhaps they should know what to do when something like this happens....every other country seem to know. Rediculous. Bunch of amateurs! Crazy!! Only in the UK!

[jonhestananet]

does all those marshal eat from straws ? what a bunch of retards !!!

[nickjp86]

Sorry , that was meant to be a response to dadianki's comment.

[Telfordhornets]

Yeah - sorry it was all my fault. Damn, hoping no-one would find out.......

[rallymadryan]

No wonder he lost so much bloody time :O

[Telfordhornets]

Excelent debate chaps - but please keep it civil. My children see this.

[TwistedHumour1]

Just after this video stops you'll see loads of spectators running towards it to push it out - quite a few of these were the people running large distances to the scene. Once a couple of people started to ignore the marshal by the fence the car was out in no time.

It's a shame that the marshals didnt have the appropriate training, but fantastic to see so many volunteered.

[riainobrolchain]

Could some one please tell me where did they find these people to marshall? Ive never seen such a crowd of un-organised twats! Poor Mikko must think the same!!

[tinyzukimonster970]

some are teachers and have never marshalled before in fact most have not marshalled before looking at that!

[dadianki]

Marshalls are unpaid volunteers. Give them some respect.

[Joneski87]

Yep, same thing here in Finland. Only difference is that here marshalls know what to do in situations like this one. In interviews Mikko was pretty pissed because of incompetent british marshalls.

[nickjp86]

For not being very good?

[tinyzukimonster970]

well that is appalling!! I have marshalled that very section on AWDC 4x4 events and 1 they are going a hell of a lot faster and 2 conditions shouldn't matter you are mashalling on an international rallying event and supposedly had marshall training as part of the MSA scheme? you must warn other cars about the accident (flag marshalls?), radio it in, and sort it out FAST not stand there like lemons!

[nickjp86]

I can 100% guarantee the driver was yelling at the marshals to stop messing about and get him going again!

[Telfordhornets]

Llastly, if ford dont win and they blame 1 incident then they only have themselves to blame. I thgink you'll find that if they narrowly miss out they will not be shallow minded enough to blame a few marshalls who perhaps diddnt want to be killed and were p[robably waiting to hear what the upside down driver wished for.

Last of all - this is all guess work - i now very little but sometime a bit of perspective is a good thing eh?

[Telfordhornets]

1) there seemed to be quite a few rally novices like me whio diddnt know the etiquette

2) It was quite damgerous as it was posible out of view of the next car banging down

3) There were loads of marshalls

4) Most of the people who were next to the crash had been stood still on drinving wind for an hour and probably diddnt have use of their limbs

[Telfordhornets]

I will remove your mesasge beacuse of teh bad language (sorry but its my clip and my kids like it) but i think the car wasn't swamped faster because:

[jobyadams]

can anyone explain why the spectators didnt swamp the car and turn it over strait away instead of the marshals pissing about for a few minutes? i was further up the bank so stoped where i was when i saw 100 or so people running towards the roll! i presume it was the marshals telling them to keep back, if this is the case fords chance of retaining the championship is ruined because of people listening to stupid shitty health and safety crap!!!!!!!

[evoman2]

Good video, it looks like you were standing only a metre from where i was stood on sweetlamb 1. I was dissapointed i had to moved for sweet lamb 2 and to rub it in i was looking in that direction when it happened but didn't spot it in the mist from the double hairpin! they all seemed to be going a little sideways when they came off that jump

[evoman2]

hehe, as i was writing that comment mikko went into second on resolfen 1 so maybe he might make a come back!

[mike141292]

We went to Sweet Lamb for stage 2 (Which later became the first stage), but wanted to go to Myrihen for stage 6, but on the way out of Sweet Lamb car park, we hit something; and damaged the bottom of our car, the suspensions a bit strange too. So we had to miss Myrihen, to sort out the car. It's a 3 week old Grande Punto. Wasn't very happy..

Anyway, stage 2 was good there. We stood by the water splash, which was a nice little place to stand. At least we managed to get to the SA1.

[Saaaraa]

hahaaa. Go Citroen!!, ford sound rubbish

[nickjp86]

That was pathetic. One of them is pulling grass out of the front! Sorry, yes marshalls give up their time for free, but I think it's very dangerous to have a group of them standing around clueless in the road.

[Telfordhornets]

They got there in the end. Just after this vid ends spectators swamped the car and got them going again. Very cool. Yes could have been a bit slicker but hey, it was a car crash!!

[feetup1]

I thought that all marshalls were trained for this sort of thing.

looks like the usuall bunch of headless chicken running around don't know what to do or where to go!