no...we don't need a new system, the banks should not be allowed to get as big as they are, that way when they fail....then they actually fail, the thing people don't realize is that the gov't specifically passed legislation (because of lobbying with billions of dollars) to allow these banks to get this big.
"Parts of the system are very strong. The parts where you give me all your money and i put it in my pocket and my friends pockets. I dont see anything wrong with our system sir"!
Keep giving them your tax/intrest dollars. If you pay taxes or intrest on a loan, you are reaping your rewards right now. This man is your champion. So if you pay taxes then you better love this man you fucking cowards. They know if you fear loosing your possisions you will never speak up. Destroy your possissions!
I wish they would just listen to Economists like Stiglitz are saying. So we are going to make the bad boys play good, Why don't we just take them, lock them out of the equation and not even leave it a question that we could repeat this in the future? This is what Japan failed to learn in the Nineties. I'm tired of shaking hands with the Devil
If the buck stops with Obama (the spend thrift man) does this mean he will PERSONALLY pay back the deficit - out of his own personal retirement savings - when his change does not work ?
and using again that taxpayers money how???? as wisely??????? Our tax money is used to pay the interest on the loans they give to Congress, that the Presidents have asked for, from them..Enough is Enough!!! We are all enslaved by this money cartel!!!
This guy should just go away and teach romper room. He is making a bad situation 100 times worse. Let these losers go into bankruptcy as the system was designed. More 'creative" thinking is going to make this recession longer or even possibly drive us into full blown depression.
Prop up those mis-managed institutions with our taxdollars, realised and yet to be, then loan our own money, ( whats left after the usual fees are taken, ) back to us at an interest rate! Hmmmmmm, genius, pure genius!
MONEY TO THE PEOPLE...... screw giving the bail out money to ANY Wall Street Co - Give the people the money, as they spend it it will fix economy, stop forclosures, get america out of debt, etc.
PLEASE join my protest to the Bail out and answer 1 question on camera: "How would you spend $297,000 dollars?" - That is the amount of BAIL OUT money given to the people....C'MON AMERICA, JOIN US IN TELLING THE GOV HOW WE COULD FIX THIS ECONOMY!....... The Fight Isnt Over YET!!
I may be crazy, but do YOU have any better idea's?...LOL.....go on....give me a reason this idea wont work.....the gov is giving out the bailout money anyway... all I want is when their idea crashes, and they try to point the finger... america will have spoken and we can say...THE FINGER BELONGS TO YOU (GOV) because WE THE PEOPLE told you how we would spend the money and fix the economy, and YOU (GOV) chose to throw it away and sink AMERICA... In light of this: what is 2 min out of your time
eh. either I you are gibbering or I am a cretin. between both I choose the former. I couldn't understand a single bollocks you said. Did you study econs? Government needs to take the up the slack. Do you want to risk deflation? do you know who larry summers is btw? I bet you don't because you are an ignorant fuck. argue with me when you stop watching hannah montana.
Your lack of education resinates as you resort to belittling others to make yourself feel superior in your own delusions. This is not about who is wrong or right... this is about sharing ideas to fix the mess the HIGHER EDUCATED monkeys got us into. Now, when you can be civilized... then we can chat....other wise BYE
The bankers & WS gang have already changed the names of their "bonuses". They are now called Retention Awards aka: Gifts to the appointed millionaires. The bankers have a foothold into power which is not rightfully theirs in a democracy. Beware the oligarchy.
"It's important we don't tar them all with the same brush..." and then he flat out says "We will help the banks that need assistance."
They are bankrupt, and need to fail so that the competent bankers can clean up there damn mess. The reason they are bankrupt is because of their criminally corrupt practices and if you help them they will just do it all over again!
Pauson, Bernanke, and now Geithner, have made it clear they are going to sacrifice the American economy and Ameican taxpayers to bail out their corrupt banker and broker buddies.
The collapse of the economy is assured now. It IS going to happen.
The logical move at this point is stop bitching about it and start preparing for it.
The bankers are the oligarchy. Beware the oligarchy. We're not there yet and there are good people in Washington believe it or not. No time for intellectual laziness ... let's keep our eyes wide open and listen.
Don't vote for this bill. This crisis was manufactured by the Democrats in order to get Barack Obama elected, since the day that Pelosi, Frank and Schummer with the appeasement of Paulson cried the "Sky if falling" the sky began to fall. The majority of the losses in the stock market and unemployed have been since the infamous day that we Americans were deceived and Pandoras Box was opened
These are the most disgusting treasoness, vile, self absorbed individuals on the planet. With a few words they single handedly have destroyed the economies of entire nations and countless lives and for what? So they could rob the treasury? Just as a victorious army would loot the riches of other nations and kingdoms in the past these idiots are robbing us, the citizens of AMERICA of our future
Guys come on. Geithner is a well respected man around the economic circles and is know to have one of the keenest economic minds. He played an integral role in helping bail out other countries when their financial system collapsed, like Korea and Brazil. Financial collapses happen a lot, just not in america. We made some bad decisions and they mainly come from only looking at things from a short term perpective. Do you think the banks did this on purpose. They all do stringent risk analysis on
their investment decision. The perfect storm happened and they didn't have it factored in. It happens, especially when you have an administration like the last one that took so much of a hands off approach. Yeha Geithner fucked up with his taxes, but give him a chance, I think you all will be pleasantly surprised. In 2011 when larry summers is the head of the fed reserve you will see our economy flying again. I don't think most people understand the level of competence that Obama has recruited.
Competence?? 2 pay-to-play investigations, 2 resignations, 2 guys who didn't pay THEIR taxes and yet are responsible for forcing us to pay ours ??!! Yup, you're right...VERY COMPETENT. Sheesshhh..you liberals are the most ignorant losers in the world.
Give him a chance?? Do you think for a moment that would fly if you cheated on your taxes? Most people spend days or weeks making sure their taxes are in order and this guy ( and other Obama appointees) dont pay until caught.
People should be outraged!
Every congressman and senator should be audited now and made public.
Corruption brings on more corruption and Geithner refused to pay his income tax when he was informed he owed taxes. He was doing it because he thought he could get away with it. Can we say CORRUPTION?
Exactly! Especially for Obama to preach "HOPE" and promise transparency in his campaign and a new "different" set of people in power. Robert Gates (not new, nor different than the other Clinton/Bush cronies he kept in power)
we need more of your money. we CEO's need more billions for more bonuses! now get back to work tax slaves. I need to trade in my corporate jet of mine for an 09 model.
Less well managed? yeah that's putting it lightly wouldn't you say. At what point does this mess warrant the term Depression? Billions of dollars for them and a 1000 dollar tax cut for small businesses, so I can turn around in April and hand it all back plus some. There is no incentive for me to hire anyone at this point. If I do Im looking at 6k for workers comp up front before that employee produces anything and if I decided to give him/her a raise they want that up front too what a joke.
Politics is basaed on lies.Capitalism is based on lies. Human beings base their life on lies. The economy can not only grow...recession and depression are parts of it. The bad bank would just be cash 4 trash.
"If you give a man a fish, he will have enough to eat for one meal. If you teach him how to fish, he will have enough to eat for a lifetime." The bailout should be applied toward one thing and one thing only-JOBS! JOBS! JOBS!
So basically, because not all the cells around the tumor are bad, we shouldn't touch the cancerous cells either because it would hurt the other cells....Jerk, look at the whole body!
Too bad Geithner is a stooge of the corrupt banking system. This guy has no business having a hand in fixing this mess. He might as well be that moron Paulson with his Goldman Sachs cronies.
"some were well managed, some were not well managed" - uhhh, yeah that's the whole point, doofus. Let the failing ones fail, let the good ones prosper.
This is the rule American poor & middle-class all have: if you're any executive at a bank, investment firm or lending company, you're considered sewage. There's no distinction between this bank & that bank Uh-uh. All should be treated like terrorist enemies. If any one of these whore-slut execs gets publicly executed for their lustful, loathsome idolating greed, there will be a party in the streets like VJ day. It's ironic, but they should be pitied for what lies in store for them & their greed.
What should be done is bailout money should be given to the people who took out bad loans so everyone can pay them back. Then banks dont fail and people pay off their loans. Then everyone shops again.
That is not the problem. The mess is the trillions of dollars in derivatives and credit default swaps. Obama even said it in his speech last night. These bankers made bets on top of bets, way beyond the price of all of the foreclosed properties.
The thing that matters the most-is HOW the money is spent. You could give it to anyone or any entity, if they keep it, it's a complete waste.
If they spend it how they're supposed to, it will help.
This should be all about oversight, and I think there is going to be more of that than people know.
Obama is NOT Bush.
He's not perfect either, and this wont be solved overnight, but I think he knows what he's doing, but people have to be patient, especially before we elect another know-nothing
Paraphrasing Brian Williams: "Why is your plan/this bailout better than the weirdest, wildest, flakiest, guaranteed-to-fail scenario I could surface?"
no...we don't need a new system, the banks should not be allowed to get as big as they are, that way when they fail....then they actually fail, the thing people don't realize is that the gov't specifically passed legislation (because of lobbying with billions of dollars) to allow these banks to get this big.
lazychimp123 1 month ago
spock ears!
cosmic10101010 3 months ago
fucking lying jew cunt spewing verbal garbage
TheDarchorse 6 months ago
That douch looks like a fucking goblin...why has someone not put his head on a pike?
canisdormit 9 months ago
"Parts of the system are very strong. The parts where you give me all your money and i put it in my pocket and my friends pockets. I dont see anything wrong with our system sir"!
Keep giving them your tax/intrest dollars. If you pay taxes or intrest on a loan, you are reaping your rewards right now. This man is your champion. So if you pay taxes then you better love this man you fucking cowards. They know if you fear loosing your possisions you will never speak up. Destroy your possissions!
zooxanthus 1 year ago
Geithner is Obama's biggest failure, and that's saying something.
pretorious700 1 year ago
A corrupt fed-a-fist
TABOOVSKNOWLEDGE 1 year ago
Geithner is such a fuckin liar. All these clowns need to be locked up in prison and we need an entire new system.
midigods 2 years ago 11
You can't loot bankrupt banks. Where is Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him?
NoMercyJustCruelty 2 years ago
geithner looks like a devil
or at least a human with a brain surgery
look at the side of his head!?!
it like goes up 4 inches on one side not the other?
oh man what did they do to him?
voidenter 2 years ago 2
I wish they would just listen to Economists like Stiglitz are saying. So we are going to make the bad boys play good, Why don't we just take them, lock them out of the equation and not even leave it a question that we could repeat this in the future? This is what Japan failed to learn in the Nineties. I'm tired of shaking hands with the Devil
incrowdcynic 2 years ago
Geithner will use taxpayer's money very wisely.... suuuuure...
Keden08 2 years ago 4
Get a rope.
carthfhuil 2 years ago 6
"...less well managed." Wow
kittystrokem 2 years ago 2
WGM news in Illinois says Obama left the state in an 11.5 Billion dollar deficit , which is leaving the new Senator to clean up the MESS.
So far, I can't really find anything Obama left in a better way, then before he came.
He ALWAYS leaves trials of catastrophe's for others to clean up.
He is sure a smooooth talker and everything sounds good.
DONEwCA 2 years ago
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If the buck stops with Obama (the spend thrift man) does this mean he will PERSONALLY pay back the deficit - out of his own personal retirement savings - when his change does not work ?
DONEwCA 2 years ago
is it just me or does geithner really look like the intern working for kramer in one of the seinfeld's episode?
motl3y 2 years ago 2
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This crook is the former president of the new york federal reserve. a non federal, and private monopoly.
Robert gates, secretary of defense, and bush's too. change?
Rahm Emanuel sucks cocks for federal reserve bills.
Rahm you zionist jew, you work for the people, not the other way around.
I SMELL WW3. No i will not die for Israel.
Obama whats taking so long to pull out of Iraq. you just sent 17,000 troops
LIAR !
thablackmarkit 2 years ago
Geithner is a freemason. Check out the symbol in the background by his head.
steckhart 2 years ago
So am I, it really means nothing these days, if this was 1845, well, that would be a different story
cpepinc 2 years ago
So what? Whats the big deal about freemasons?
011EviL 2 years ago
I'm sure he didn't place that there. Masonic symbols are all over Washington because our country was founded and built by freemasons.
SubmarinerAndroid 2 years ago 2
Geithner is a freemason. Check out the symbol in the background by his head.
sinn0304 2 years ago
Geithner is a freemason. Check out the symbol in the background by his head.
acidbass808 2 years ago
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acidbass808 2 years ago
and using again that taxpayers money how???? as wisely??????? Our tax money is used to pay the interest on the loans they give to Congress, that the Presidents have asked for, from them..Enough is Enough!!! We are all enslaved by this money cartel!!!
GrimmMylene 2 years ago 4
dude i remember brian williams goin on the air a beggin for the 700bill tarp shit.. these ppl know nothing
eaj07003 2 years ago 2
This guy should just go away and teach romper room. He is making a bad situation 100 times worse. Let these losers go into bankruptcy as the system was designed. More 'creative" thinking is going to make this recession longer or even possibly drive us into full blown depression.
stevesprinceofsteaks 2 years ago 3
Geithner looks like a retard...is he a retard?
randi858 2 years ago 5
LOL...my grandma used to say "if he don't look right he ain't right"....retard is a bad word so i'll just leave it a what my grandma used to say.
scampbell04 2 years ago 2
Probably.
bittergunowner12 2 years ago
His background disqualifies him from doing this job. Conflict of interest.
KonaChuck22 2 years ago 2
Geithner was previously the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
Geithner's position includes a large role in directing the nation's economic response to the financial crisis which began in 2007.
Obozo and Geithner are stealing from the American people!
Impeach them now!
kvjhedfbv 2 years ago
Prop up those mis-managed institutions with our taxdollars, realised and yet to be, then loan our own money, ( whats left after the usual fees are taken, ) back to us at an interest rate! Hmmmmmm, genius, pure genius!
MrBoobers 2 years ago 2
b.s.
Let them go bankrupt. seven-hundred billion down the drain.
indusrtial 2 years ago 4
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MONEY TO THE PEOPLE...... screw giving the bail out money to ANY Wall Street Co - Give the people the money, as they spend it it will fix economy, stop forclosures, get america out of debt, etc.
PLEASE join my protest to the Bail out and answer 1 question on camera: "How would you spend $297,000 dollars?" - That is the amount of BAIL OUT money given to the people....C'MON AMERICA, JOIN US IN TELLING THE GOV HOW WE COULD FIX THIS ECONOMY!....... The Fight Isnt Over YET!!
BAILOUTMONEY 2 years ago
this guy is one crazy douchebag.
bitricky 2 years ago
I may be crazy, but do YOU have any better idea's?...LOL.....go on....give me a reason this idea wont work.....the gov is giving out the bailout money anyway... all I want is when their idea crashes, and they try to point the finger... america will have spoken and we can say...THE FINGER BELONGS TO YOU (GOV) because WE THE PEOPLE told you how we would spend the money and fix the economy, and YOU (GOV) chose to throw it away and sink AMERICA... In light of this: what is 2 min out of your time
BAILOUTMONEY 2 years ago
eh. either I you are gibbering or I am a cretin. between both I choose the former. I couldn't understand a single bollocks you said. Did you study econs? Government needs to take the up the slack. Do you want to risk deflation? do you know who larry summers is btw? I bet you don't because you are an ignorant fuck. argue with me when you stop watching hannah montana.
bitricky 2 years ago
Your lack of education resinates as you resort to belittling others to make yourself feel superior in your own delusions. This is not about who is wrong or right... this is about sharing ideas to fix the mess the HIGHER EDUCATED monkeys got us into. Now, when you can be civilized... then we can chat....other wise BYE
BAILOUTMONEY 2 years ago
The bankers & WS gang have already changed the names of their "bonuses". They are now called Retention Awards aka: Gifts to the appointed millionaires. The bankers have a foothold into power which is not rightfully theirs in a democracy. Beware the oligarchy.
thyroperoxidase 2 years ago
Pants on fire.
Yeuxvert 2 years ago 2
"We will help the (zombie) banks that need assistance".
I hope he means "help them into the grave".
majujakop 2 years ago
"It's important we don't tar them all with the same brush..." and then he flat out says "We will help the banks that need assistance."
They are bankrupt, and need to fail so that the competent bankers can clean up there damn mess. The reason they are bankrupt is because of their criminally corrupt practices and if you help them they will just do it all over again!
Go Ron Paul.
christogarcia 2 years ago
FUCK YOU GEITHNER!
hummarstra 2 years ago
LaRouche, look him up.
Bankruptcy has been proposed by this economist.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
larouche is a commy, look uup mises/rothbard/hayek
ball4thegame 2 years ago
I'll look it up, but from what I've seen he does believe in some kind of Socialism.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
Did I see a tail on this guy, I think I did.
RSnelli 2 years ago 3
There is not enough money to prop up the failed banks, They will fail sooner or later no matter what.
ndyt 3 years ago 4
dead soul
coachkemp34 3 years ago 4
Pauson, Bernanke, and now Geithner, have made it clear they are going to sacrifice the American economy and Ameican taxpayers to bail out their corrupt banker and broker buddies.
The collapse of the economy is assured now. It IS going to happen.
The logical move at this point is stop bitching about it and start preparing for it.
gpk9 3 years ago 5
The bankers are the oligarchy. Beware the oligarchy. We're not there yet and there are good people in Washington believe it or not. No time for intellectual laziness ... let's keep our eyes wide open and listen.
thyroperoxidase 2 years ago
END THE FEDERAL RESERVE.
Eliminate bubbles from forming, don't try to regulate them!
ccantwell6 3 years ago 5
Geithner is apart of the banking system. He'll defend till he dies.
FatLibertarian 3 years ago 2
Corruption breeds corruption and soon that is all we will have.
Cindi3847 3 years ago 4
He looks like an elf.
BullnBearAnalytics 3 years ago
Don't vote for this bill. This crisis was manufactured by the Democrats in order to get Barack Obama elected, since the day that Pelosi, Frank and Schummer with the appeasement of Paulson cried the "Sky if falling" the sky began to fall. The majority of the losses in the stock market and unemployed have been since the infamous day that we Americans were deceived and Pandoras Box was opened
ILSU4U2 3 years ago
These are the most disgusting treasoness, vile, self absorbed individuals on the planet. With a few words they single handedly have destroyed the economies of entire nations and countless lives and for what? So they could rob the treasury? Just as a victorious army would loot the riches of other nations and kingdoms in the past these idiots are robbing us, the citizens of AMERICA of our future
ILSU4U2 3 years ago
Why does he have no eye brows?
okbuba 3 years ago
Guys come on. Geithner is a well respected man around the economic circles and is know to have one of the keenest economic minds. He played an integral role in helping bail out other countries when their financial system collapsed, like Korea and Brazil. Financial collapses happen a lot, just not in america. We made some bad decisions and they mainly come from only looking at things from a short term perpective. Do you think the banks did this on purpose. They all do stringent risk analysis on
vernlaw 3 years ago
their investment decision. The perfect storm happened and they didn't have it factored in. It happens, especially when you have an administration like the last one that took so much of a hands off approach. Yeha Geithner fucked up with his taxes, but give him a chance, I think you all will be pleasantly surprised. In 2011 when larry summers is the head of the fed reserve you will see our economy flying again. I don't think most people understand the level of competence that Obama has recruited.
vernlaw 3 years ago
Competence?? 2 pay-to-play investigations, 2 resignations, 2 guys who didn't pay THEIR taxes and yet are responsible for forcing us to pay ours ??!! Yup, you're right...VERY COMPETENT. Sheesshhh..you liberals are the most ignorant losers in the world.
Rikiru 3 years ago 2
ps notting against what happend but tecknaly how can somebody be a loser if they won?
i`ll leave you with that thouth
djdeath12 3 years ago
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sharkilynn 3 years ago
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sharkilynn 3 years ago
Please, no facts. They don't like facts.
njcarlos1 3 years ago 2
njcarlos
Geithner hates facts because if he had to use facts people would understand why he is an empty suit. Paulson was bad but Geithner is corrupt.
Cindi3847 3 years ago
Give him a chance?? Do you think for a moment that would fly if you cheated on your taxes? Most people spend days or weeks making sure their taxes are in order and this guy ( and other Obama appointees) dont pay until caught.
People should be outraged!
Every congressman and senator should be audited now and made public.
He doesnt deserve our respect anymore.
cpnhowdy 3 years ago
You hit a vital point, too. Would he have paid had he not been caught? I think we all know the answer to that question.
njcarlos1 3 years ago 2
njcarlos1
Corruption brings on more corruption and Geithner refused to pay his income tax when he was informed he owed taxes. He was doing it because he thought he could get away with it. Can we say CORRUPTION?
Cindi3847 3 years ago
Exactly! Especially for Obama to preach "HOPE" and promise transparency in his campaign and a new "different" set of people in power. Robert Gates (not new, nor different than the other Clinton/Bush cronies he kept in power)
Rikiru 3 years ago 4
we need more of your money. we CEO's need more billions for more bonuses! now get back to work tax slaves. I need to trade in my corporate jet of mine for an 09 model.
copcorona 3 years ago 5
Less well managed? yeah that's putting it lightly wouldn't you say. At what point does this mess warrant the term Depression? Billions of dollars for them and a 1000 dollar tax cut for small businesses, so I can turn around in April and hand it all back plus some. There is no incentive for me to hire anyone at this point. If I do Im looking at 6k for workers comp up front before that employee produces anything and if I decided to give him/her a raise they want that up front too what a joke.
H0VEN 3 years ago
lol sounds like sarah palin for some reason
l3igballer23 3 years ago 2
He has very pointy ears.
blyrehs 3 years ago 3
This guy is SO full of Shit!!!!
anthropomorphosizeme 3 years ago 3
Translation -
We're going to take money away from ordinary people and give it to our friends.
WorshipVideo 3 years ago 5
End the Federal Reserve - Private Bankers control of our money and put it back into Congress's hands.
Bank issue gone. Banks fail just like other businesses the Constitution does not allow for the Federal Government to bail-out anyone.
Alderon714 3 years ago
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Just my personal opinions:
Politics is basaed on lies.Capitalism is based on lies. Human beings base their life on lies. The economy can not only grow...recession and depression are parts of it. The bad bank would just be cash 4 trash.
gannelliott99 3 years ago
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gannelliott99 3 years ago
the art of saying nothing...
freekrolik 3 years ago
"If you give a man a fish, he will have enough to eat for one meal. If you teach him how to fish, he will have enough to eat for a lifetime." The bailout should be applied toward one thing and one thing only-JOBS! JOBS! JOBS!
WinterHaven 3 years ago
I know what is going to happen. Pork.
WinterHaven 3 years ago 2
So basically, because not all the cells around the tumor are bad, we shouldn't touch the cancerous cells either because it would hurt the other cells....Jerk, look at the whole body!
uru86 3 years ago 2
Too bad Geithner is a stooge of the corrupt banking system. This guy has no business having a hand in fixing this mess. He might as well be that moron Paulson with his Goldman Sachs cronies.
lamouchemorte 3 years ago 4
"some were well managed, some were not well managed" - uhhh, yeah that's the whole point, doofus. Let the failing ones fail, let the good ones prosper.
TheIllegit 3 years ago 3
This is the rule American poor & middle-class all have: if you're any executive at a bank, investment firm or lending company, you're considered sewage. There's no distinction between this bank & that bank Uh-uh. All should be treated like terrorist enemies. If any one of these whore-slut execs gets publicly executed for their lustful, loathsome idolating greed, there will be a party in the streets like VJ day. It's ironic, but they should be pitied for what lies in store for them & their greed.
pig5689 3 years ago
What should be done is bailout money should be given to the people who took out bad loans so everyone can pay them back. Then banks dont fail and people pay off their loans. Then everyone shops again.
AmpdPranks 3 years ago
That is not the problem. The mess is the trillions of dollars in derivatives and credit default swaps. Obama even said it in his speech last night. These bankers made bets on top of bets, way beyond the price of all of the foreclosed properties.
tikinkss 3 years ago 2
The thing that matters the most-is HOW the money is spent. You could give it to anyone or any entity, if they keep it, it's a complete waste.
If they spend it how they're supposed to, it will help.
This should be all about oversight, and I think there is going to be more of that than people know.
Obama is NOT Bush.
He's not perfect either, and this wont be solved overnight, but I think he knows what he's doing, but people have to be patient, especially before we elect another know-nothing
zndprophet 3 years ago
I sincerely doubt that. People are living beyond their means so what makes you think they are going to stop?
WinterHaven 3 years ago
Paraphrasing Brian Williams: "Why is your plan/this bailout better than the weirdest, wildest, flakiest, guaranteed-to-fail scenario I could surface?"
Good journalism, there, BW.
voyeurdug 3 years ago
what a crock of bs, he is a king of the corrupt edifice, why would he say its failed?
rick4554 3 years ago 11
Now that's how you do a first comment. Nice work, rick4554
eljefereal 3 years ago