while i agree bicycle registration ect... is a fukn joke, i must agree with the brakeless bike law, they are a hazzard in such a confined area here in philly!
IVE RACED MANY FIXIES UP AND DOWN MARKET, CHESTNUT ECT... AND HAVE SEEN A FEW ALMOST BLAST A CAR/PERSON ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS A FIXIE, IF THEY HAD ANY KIND OF BRAKES IT WOULDNT EVEN HAVE BEEN CLOSE!
It's relevant when a comparison is made between a bike and an auto i.e. "drivers require licensing, why not cyclists? " as though there is a like comparison between cyclists and motorists. Those 23 fatalities were caused by motor vehicles, I have yet to see or hear of someone in a car being killed by a bike. I respect your opinion, however I juts don't see how license plates and outlawing breakless bikes will improve anything.
esp. when the police in no way enforce the laws on the drivers. i almost get hit on a daily basis by drivers running lights, on their cells and are jus generally ignorant of anything around them.
Bikes without brakes are already illegal. Focus on the issues that really matter like the bike licencing. To try to defend the issue of brakeless bikes significantly weakens your arguement against all of the proposals.
I would like to do more research into the present situation in Philly, but as a cyclist interested in being taken more seriously by drivers and city planners, I support the idea of licensing.
To me it's a clear statement that says the cyclist is willing to take responsibility for his actions on the road. Drivers require licensing if they're on the road, why not cyclists? What if cars were allowed to freely drive along roads with no manner of identification?
The notion that riders are afforded the same rights as cars or pedestrians is off base. Riders are treated like third class citizens on the streets in NYC assaulted, harassed, and killed. I dont have stats for 08/09 but in 07 there were 23 bicycle fatalities in NYC (streetsblog). How about enforcing existing laws on the books? Targeting messengers (and thats what these laws do) is not the solution. Further cyclists should not have to fight to be taken "seriously" Thats just insulting.
I'm unclear on how your fatality statistic is relevant as I don't know the density of riders in NYC, or how that compares to driver deaths. Point being, roads will always be a dangerous place - what are you comparing those 23 fatalities to?
I'm not interested in targeting messengers, I'm interested (as a daily cyclist) in demonstrating that cyclists do respect the rules of the road. I think many drivers have a negative view of cyclists for very good reasons, and I think we should explore those.
while i agree bicycle registration ect... is a fukn joke, i must agree with the brakeless bike law, they are a hazzard in such a confined area here in philly!
IVE RACED MANY FIXIES UP AND DOWN MARKET, CHESTNUT ECT... AND HAVE SEEN A FEW ALMOST BLAST A CAR/PERSON ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS A FIXIE, IF THEY HAD ANY KIND OF BRAKES IT WOULDNT EVEN HAVE BEEN CLOSE!
WHO'S GONNA STOP FOR A COP ANYWAY?? HAHA
carbonrrpilot 1 year ago
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sadashig 2 years ago
It's relevant when a comparison is made between a bike and an auto i.e. "drivers require licensing, why not cyclists? " as though there is a like comparison between cyclists and motorists. Those 23 fatalities were caused by motor vehicles, I have yet to see or hear of someone in a car being killed by a bike. I respect your opinion, however I juts don't see how license plates and outlawing breakless bikes will improve anything.
Pedalblock 2 years ago
esp. when the police in no way enforce the laws on the drivers. i almost get hit on a daily basis by drivers running lights, on their cells and are jus generally ignorant of anything around them.
kapwns 2 years ago
Bikes without brakes are already illegal. Focus on the issues that really matter like the bike licencing. To try to defend the issue of brakeless bikes significantly weakens your arguement against all of the proposals.
paulkrolljr 2 years ago
I hate to be critical but I think it would have served you better to interview some more articulate folks.
dmtroyer 2 years ago
I would like to do more research into the present situation in Philly, but as a cyclist interested in being taken more seriously by drivers and city planners, I support the idea of licensing.
To me it's a clear statement that says the cyclist is willing to take responsibility for his actions on the road. Drivers require licensing if they're on the road, why not cyclists? What if cars were allowed to freely drive along roads with no manner of identification?
Happy to hear an opposing view. :-)
mcphilthy 2 years ago
The notion that riders are afforded the same rights as cars or pedestrians is off base. Riders are treated like third class citizens on the streets in NYC assaulted, harassed, and killed. I dont have stats for 08/09 but in 07 there were 23 bicycle fatalities in NYC (streetsblog). How about enforcing existing laws on the books? Targeting messengers (and thats what these laws do) is not the solution. Further cyclists should not have to fight to be taken "seriously" Thats just insulting.
Pedalblock 2 years ago
I'm unclear on how your fatality statistic is relevant as I don't know the density of riders in NYC, or how that compares to driver deaths. Point being, roads will always be a dangerous place - what are you comparing those 23 fatalities to?
I'm not interested in targeting messengers, I'm interested (as a daily cyclist) in demonstrating that cyclists do respect the rules of the road. I think many drivers have a negative view of cyclists for very good reasons, and I think we should explore those.
mcphilthy 2 years ago