Este es el capricho que más me gusta! Bastante rápido, complicado e inimitable. Me quedé Taciturno estos dos minutos de aprecio. Tan interesante que me inocúla ganas de aprender a tocar el violín.
Esta versión del capricho 5 es muy buena, simplemente Milstein tenia un estilo diferente al de Markov, lo cual es muy normal y sobre todo en los caprichos 5 y 24 de paganini. Para mi la mejor interpretacion de este capricho es la de Shlomo Mintz...echenle un vistazo y veran
@LordShandor Ha, you're right, it appears 'halfspeed' to the half-wits!
You listen carefully moron, there's no metronome tempo indication, the middle section is marked Agitato- any idea what that means? Course not- you're not a musician. It means agitated and open to interpretation which Milstein does here beautifully.
I'm only being like this because your initial statement inslults this great musician. This is NOT how I normally discuss music and will not engage in any further animosity
i just love the lightness and complete effortless look of his playing. i also love the fact that he brings out some of the modulations rather than just playing it like a metronome. amazing
@vladikazakh your comment is out of place. you have no idea what your talking about. of course Paganini put emotion into his music! this composition is for technique sake and virtuosity.
c'mon, doesnt matter the speed, the important thing is the feeling and perfection of notes. This is the best performance of caprice 5 i've ever seen and listen
heifetz' playing is more angular, his bow is a paintbrush. milstein's approach is more aggressive, though, and the playing of these two it's a matter of preference. no objective standards exist to distinguish these two masters.
hhelpmaboab: Actually, Ill Cannone was Paganini's favorite violin and he preferred to use it over other violins. In actuality, the composition of the instrument helped him to perform the double, triple and quadruple stops that he is so well known for. The flatter bridge allowed him to play chords so that no arpeggio effect was audible. For drawn out chords he used the lower part of the bow and raised the hand and lower part of the arm higher while bringing his elbow away from his body.
@emilywilliams420 True. Markov generally doesn't play really in tune (compared to Milstein or Mintz) in any of the caprices - although he has incredible presence and it's really fun watching him.
I agree 123mortimer456. Paganini was known to break three strings and play on only one string during concerts as sort of a parlor trick, but there is no way of knowing which songs he would play. Not only did he have extremely long fingers (presumably from Marfan's Syndrome) but his violin the "Il Cannone" had all the strings on the same plane, which allowed for bowing of three, sometimes all four strings at a time.
Another of his tricks concerned the 1st violin concerto.I believe that when he 1st performed this it was billed as being in e flat major-nobody could work out how he managed to play this in such a challenging key.The answer is he didn't,he used scordatura so that the fingering was in d major!
Hah! Knew a bit about Paganini, but didn't know he used that little trick for the 1st. Thanks shiveringflower, guess you learn something new every day.
if strings were all in the same plane, how could he avoid also playing the 1st or 4th when playing the 2nd and 3rd strings? I assume the violin was for specialised pieces only?
No, it's a legend. No one knows if it's true or not. I like to think it is. You can practice enough to do anything. Paganini had Marfan's syndrome, which made his fingers extraordinarily long.
It is impossible to play this on one string.Physically!The G string is not long enough for all the high notes and wouldn´t allow a fast tempo either.Paganini played the ¨Moises¨ variations on the G string after the other three were torn up
Lassann - you're wrong. Paganini could NOT play the 5th Caprice on one string. And there is no legend or myth that he could. It is true, of course, that Paganini had a whole grab bag full of single-string stunts. But this Caprice is not one of them.
Heifetz knew Paganini wasn't his strong suit, that why he didn't try too many Paganini's. powerful and dynamic belong to Kogan, he knew his style is close to Paganini, tynicaly being equal, where the charator come out to play, Kogan is better candidate to carry Paganini's torch.
Accardo of course is on top of the shelf, so as the legendary of Kreisler(my favorit) Francescatti, Heifetz (I went to see him in the middle of 60' in music center LA), but they are not Paganini, no one can interprete Paganini except Kogan because of they two share the same personalyties, devil's bow spirits, you can tell the intensity through out the music. It was told Kogan he disregarded friends & manager's advise, went ahead for the performance(by train), turned out be his last.
When compare to R. Ricci please ref. to utube's posting, they both have #24 there. for the clearity of the tone, vibratos, it shows on the live concert of ASTONISING-Leonid Kogan....
ur all idiots, the russian hold simply meant not relying on pressure on strings to create a louder sound, but rather having minimal pressure on the string to create a more resonating and clear sound that echoes alot further than if you were to apply pressure, it's got nothing to do with posture...this is why 21st century violin playing has decayed so badly, it's nothing but pressure on the strings in the hope that the sound would be louder, russian style aka 20th century is still much better
So let me just get this clear in mind ... because the people below do not share your specific understanding of the 'Russian Hold', they are all idiots. An idiot is a person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of ordinary reasoning. Don't you think you may have gone overboard somewhat with that presumptuous insult? If these people are idiots, then you must be an insufferable boor (and an arsehole of the first order, to boot).
What you're talking about is a style of sound production, not a bow hold. There is in fact a Russian bow-hold, Carl Flesch writes to great detail about it in his book "The Art of Violin Playing," and in his writing, he does specifically state that the Russian hold permits considerably more leverage to apply weight into the bow than its counterparts. Of course, whether one chooses to take advantage of this leverage is up to the player.
The violinist Leonidas Kavakos employs the Russian bow hold, at least by popular definitions: deeper first finger contact, and higher inward rotation. He plays very cleanly with a very even tone, and remarkable projection. His un-miked Sibelius recordings are a testament to that. He also happens to tend towards the heavier side of bowing.
no way he lacks ferocity...every piece milstein plays he always takes it head on, thats whats really characteristic of the russian style, and thats what makes milstein one of the greatest ever violinists, his technique was so perfect and refined, his tone was just as good, this in combination with his direct and powerful approach to many standard repetoirs earned him a reputation as a violinist on par with heifetz
You gotta love the russian bow-hold. Why is it that violin teachers on the whole (at least in America) say that this hold doesn't facilitate good playing? What do they say to a player like Milstein?
You could go by that definition, but then all beginners use the Russian bow hold lol. According to Carl Flesch, the Russian bow hold involves a deeper contact point between the bow and the first finger. With the Franco-Belgian hold, the bow contacts the index finger between the 1st and 2nd joints from the tip, whereas with the Russian hold, the bow contacts the index finger between the 2nd and 3rd joints.
The deeper contact point results in more inward rotation of the forearm, which then results in a more extended pinky because it has to reach farther to contact the stick.
A lot of people claim to use the Russian bow hold when they're actually using a poorly-formed Franco-Belgian (or similar Galamian) bow hold (their joints collapse and their pinky sticks straight).
A lot of violin teachers in the US claim the Russian hold is stiff and inflexible at the frog due to the relatively high amount of forearm rotation. However, the problem lies not in the bow hold, but the VIOLIN hold and posture. A lot of people hold the violin such that the scroll points directly in front (perpendicular to their body), which means they have to contort their wrist to get the bow perpendicular to the strings. (continued ->)
By turning the violin around so that its scroll is pointing far left, the bow will naturally be perpendicular to the strings without the player having to twist his wrist around. Generally, the taller you are, the more you want to point the scroll away from the center. Heifetz was relatively tall, while Milstein wasn't. Note the differences in how they hold the violin.
i dont think so, i would say heifetz is the best but unfortunately he only recorded the number 13 and the 24, maybe u would like to check is rendition of the 24 and see what i mean...
Some say Kogan is the best Paganini player.Of course , they are all very good.Too bad Heifetz didn't record more Paganini caprices...Then we would have known for sure:)
Technically, Ruggiero Ricci is considered to be the Paganini man, and nowadays Salvatore Accardo is acquiring that status as well. Personally, I prefer the way the old masters such as Milstein/Heifetz play Paganini because they play Paganini in a more standard concerto-like fashion. Although Ricci/Accardo are probably more authentic when it comes to playing Paganini in the Italian, Paganini-esque way.
FABULOUS! Perhaps all do not appreciate Paganini's Caprices but all violinist's do! They are challenging for most of us, but out and out fun at the same time. Personally, I love listening to them, but I am a violinist..I also love comparing and contrasting styles of different players on these caprices. These pieces are a fine study in bowing, intonation (tons of chromatics) and runs--playing in the symphony often consists of playing RUNS:runs and runs and runs, These are an interesting study
que demonios?? no es una pobre interpretación, es uno de los mejores violinistas del siglo XX interpretando de manera magistral una pieza dificilísima,muy bajito? bajito respecto de que? ademas no se equivoca para absolutamente nada, es afinadisimo, su tecnica es concisa, su arco espectacular, el tempo es apropiado, es una de las mejores interpretaciones de la historia, y de hecho Perlman, aunque es casi mi favorito y lo idolatro, en una grabación de este mismo capricho, se equivoca rotundamente
Milstein es considerado uno de los genios del siglo pasado, con una limpieza unica y una obsesion por la articulacion de los dedos. El fue unico aunque pienso que Heifetz fue el mejor tocando piezas de Paganini
Pviola and Isosphere, you are the hell wrong!! Paganini, Locatelli, Bazzini for example, those who wondered and took the technique to unknown limits, were extreme musicians an excelent players, Schumann, Beethoven, Bach, these are virtuoso too! and no one will say they irrespected the music right? you know Pierre Rode? Fiorillo? Dont? Kreutzer? those where virtuoso players that aported to the study of technic and playing,virtuoso of course, which is part of the music, as well as Paganini
No no no WTF?? how you can say or even think, going to the ultimate technic and develop de violin to the extreme, ultimate and most wonderful limits is overstressing the instrument and somwhow irrespecting the music?? this is part of the music!! virtuosity and extreme technic es part of playing any instrument, if you know how is to play and instrument, would know that ALWAYS you have yo play velocity, afination and virtuoso exercises, this is music, difficult, top technique, and WONDERFUL music
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Paganini and the violinists are over-stressing the instrument. Listen to the upwards and downwards scale-runs, one is a cat-like MEEUOWW and the other scale is scratching like a diamond saw in granite, the notes consisting of 90% attack noise and only 10% sustain. One should respect the physical limits of music.
Like a boss = D
SomeAnimeOtaku 2 weeks ago
For a second I thought he tossed his bow at the end. That was amazing!
toberlycoberly 2 weeks ago
Is it capriccio or caprice?
nyrondi29 1 month ago
@nyrondi29
capriccio because Paganini was italian!
davidgiardino 5 hours ago
Este es el capricho que más me gusta! Bastante rápido, complicado e inimitable. Me quedé Taciturno estos dos minutos de aprecio. Tan interesante que me inocúla ganas de aprender a tocar el violín.
Mahoflow 1 month ago
@violinamore
That's just his swag. He changes more notes, like adding a little extra on the end an changing accidentals in a few spots
tiltshift666 3 months ago
je suis violoniste moi aussi
guillaumepellerin 3 months ago
How is it possible to play like that so effortless?!
Peanutbuttrluv 5 months ago
What is that in 0:19 ???? There is supposed to be a scale back as well ?? Not just few tones back a-e-c-a ?
violinoamore 5 months ago
@violinoamore
How 'bout screeching?
nyrondi29 1 month ago
I tuned into this video and I was like, "OMG! What was that again?" EFFORTLESS!
ksviewerx 6 months ago
Perdón, cometí el error de no agradecer también al usuario de este canal por haber subido la interpretación de este brillante violinista.
Muchas Gracias!
Minerva
Magamaguitam 6 months ago
Impressive, You Are right Pablito, merci beaucoup come tous les jours, mon chéri ,)
Hopefully this time the google translator don't get me wrong en come je vous appelle ..jajaja..
Love ya!
La Minè ;P
Magamaguitam 6 months ago
I'm very appreciated, Mine.
PablitoBodhisattva 6 months ago
@PablitoBodhisattva There's no doubt for me, i do know, of course! Satisfied now Pablito or still in doubt?
Je t'aime! E vou?
Magamaguitam 6 months ago
eugene's trickbag x1000000000
FeNsTa 6 months ago
since i listened to paganini i want to play violin.... serious
waliuxD 7 months ago
Esta versión del capricho 5 es muy buena, simplemente Milstein tenia un estilo diferente al de Markov, lo cual es muy normal y sobre todo en los caprichos 5 y 24 de paganini. Para mi la mejor interpretacion de este capricho es la de Shlomo Mintz...echenle un vistazo y veran
1983haggard 7 months ago
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this one the best
fandoro1 8 months ago
wtf how do u do that!?
codebot100 9 months ago
it's all fake, the music ... the movement is mounted to imitate the sound but do not produce it
leonaxares 9 months ago
0:22 He looks like he's thinking..."Oh, great. Now I have to play the easiest part of this whole piece."
TheFrancescaViolin 10 months ago
I just pooped myself
DeliriumBullett 10 months ago
so effortless
moonyyummy 10 months ago
Every single note speaks. That is SOOO crazy on this caprice.
ItzhakRoxMySox 11 months ago
Il redonne la beautée à ce caprice si souvent mal joué.
hildye 11 months ago
te falto el stacatto compa jajajaja, nadie como ALEXANDER MARKOV
hades1010011010 11 months ago
magnifique
harangue21 1 year ago
The most clean interpretation I know.
leomulder 1 year ago
Too slow. Only at halfspeed.
LordShandor 1 year ago
@LordShandor are you a 5-year old Chinese GM mutant? well you're invited to show your double-speed interpretation here on Youtube.
And while practicing don't forget that what Milstein is doing is called MUSIC and not a sequence of fast notes.
pichat1 1 year ago
@pichat1 Listen carefully stupid, he isn't playing it the way it was WRITTEN and therefore intended to be played.
watch?v=QmfGnSyUf4s
LordShandor 1 year ago
@LordShandor Ha, you're right, it appears 'halfspeed' to the half-wits!
You listen carefully moron, there's no metronome tempo indication, the middle section is marked Agitato- any idea what that means? Course not- you're not a musician. It means agitated and open to interpretation which Milstein does here beautifully.
I'm only being like this because your initial statement inslults this great musician. This is NOT how I normally discuss music and will not engage in any further animosity
pichat1 1 year ago 3
@pichat1 well said, well said :)
TheVman551 1 year ago
i just love the lightness and complete effortless look of his playing. i also love the fact that he brings out some of the modulations rather than just playing it like a metronome. amazing
hodgrix 1 year ago 2
he's version is gd but i still prefer markov's bowing
TheSoundtrackfanatic 1 year ago
Demasiado genio Nathan Milstein, fue y es una legenda
Edoom21 1 year ago
muito fraco
nicktom1000 1 year ago
No thrill, no emotion, waste of talent. Half the notes are decorum. Where's your heart Paganini?
vladikazakh 1 year ago
@vladikazakh You're wrong
AbsoluteZ3R0 1 year ago
@vladikazakh it was not yet the time of "paganini's renaissance"! a diabolic interpretation
of paganini is quite recent!
claviolino 1 year ago
@vladikazakh your comment is out of place. you have no idea what your talking about. of course Paganini put emotion into his music! this composition is for technique sake and virtuosity.
gnatural 1 year ago
Jeez, look at his fingers. Looks so fluid and effortless.
HadeanAgent 1 year ago
Wow!
Gregory98 1 year ago
FAR MORE BETTER MINTZ
infajoe 1 year ago
I wonder how many notes he played in this piece! That's incredible.
Hucklebears 1 year ago
at 1:06, he plays a b flat... which version is this?
TimChoFsho 1 year ago
Yeahhhhhh !!! Awesome
wellington182182182 1 year ago
amo paganini...... <3
socceraddict46 1 year ago
waoooo Milstein was a geniuss
Edoom21 1 year ago
c'mon, doesnt matter the speed, the important thing is the feeling and perfection of notes. This is the best performance of caprice 5 i've ever seen and listen
Theoderick 1 year ago
well, kavakos plays it almost the double speed
and he sounds pretty much as clear as him
cu
HeiligerPavianarsch 1 year ago
@HeiligerPavianarsch Kavakos plays it with more fluidity as well
SquishyRainbow 1 year ago
@SquishyRainbow well, that too, but still milstein is playing great music, too
but for paganini i would always prefer kavakos to anybody!!
cu
HeiligerPavianarsch 1 year ago
@HeiligerPavianarsch Kavakos is the supreme master.
violatione 1 year ago
@HeiligerPavianarsch also Salvatore Accardo is not to bad.. I sow him with "le campanelle". I stayed breathless for a week.
seborinmetal 1 year ago
I wonder what this looks like on sheet music.... probably a bunch of black dots...
akikowolf 2 years ago
heifetz' playing is more angular, his bow is a paintbrush. milstein's approach is more aggressive, though, and the playing of these two it's a matter of preference. no objective standards exist to distinguish these two masters.
poseuresque 2 years ago
nobody better
bobviool 2 years ago 12
im agree..!! NOBODY...!!
felipebass182 2 years ago
Besides Heifetz of course
gibsonpaddy 2 years ago
fantastic
gasp962 2 years ago
beautiful....
danyzul 2 years ago 3
si "insinua" nel pezzo meravigliosamente
puffo3500 2 years ago 4
this is crazy insanity.
emilywilliams420 2 years ago 3
he almost slips and crashes the whole piece at 1:31 but since Milstein is a badass he keeps right on going and sweeping
candyrox25 2 years ago
INSANE!!
look up yngwie malmsteen
destructo1080 2 years ago
hhelpmaboab: Actually, Ill Cannone was Paganini's favorite violin and he preferred to use it over other violins. In actuality, the composition of the instrument helped him to perform the double, triple and quadruple stops that he is so well known for. The flatter bridge allowed him to play chords so that no arpeggio effect was audible. For drawn out chords he used the lower part of the bow and raised the hand and lower part of the arm higher while bringing his elbow away from his body.
pushindaisies324 2 years ago
a King !!
Rephrat 2 years ago 3
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Find Alexander Markov. He plays it better.
plemax 2 years ago
actually, Milstein's intonation is more accurate than Markov's, especially in the higher positions.
emilywilliams420 2 years ago 31
@emilywilliams420 Maybe, but he does not play the original bowing :P
Eddywards 2 years ago
uh oh :p
emilywilliams420 2 years ago
@emilywilliams420 True. Markov generally doesn't play really in tune (compared to Milstein or Mintz) in any of the caprices - although he has incredible presence and it's really fun watching him.
Laprevotte 1 year ago
awesome....
Andratos95 2 years ago
There was a program on BBc Radio 2 last night which included a short but entertaining section on Paganni -
Episode 3
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Last broadcast Thursday 1st Oct 2009, 22:30 on BBC Radio 2
Synopsis David Quantick's quick-paced and occasionally fabricated guide to classical music.
buzzapple 2 years ago
I agree 123mortimer456. Paganini was known to break three strings and play on only one string during concerts as sort of a parlor trick, but there is no way of knowing which songs he would play. Not only did he have extremely long fingers (presumably from Marfan's Syndrome) but his violin the "Il Cannone" had all the strings on the same plane, which allowed for bowing of three, sometimes all four strings at a time.
pushindaisies324 2 years ago
Another of his tricks concerned the 1st violin concerto.I believe that when he 1st performed this it was billed as being in e flat major-nobody could work out how he managed to play this in such a challenging key.The answer is he didn't,he used scordatura so that the fingering was in d major!
shiveringflower 2 years ago
Hah! Knew a bit about Paganini, but didn't know he used that little trick for the 1st. Thanks shiveringflower, guess you learn something new every day.
pushindaisies324 2 years ago
if strings were all in the same plane, how could he avoid also playing the 1st or 4th when playing the 2nd and 3rd strings? I assume the violin was for specialised pieces only?
hhelpmaboab 2 years ago
Somehow my reply to a comment about Bach has appeared here?????
shiveringflower 2 years ago
All of it. He'd ask someone in the audience to name the string he used.
Lassann 2 years ago
simply amazing...
froterons 2 years ago
You know what's even more amazing. Paganini could play this on one string.
Lassann 2 years ago
even the arpeggios? D:
froterons 2 years ago
That was just a myth. He never did that.
C0urante 2 years ago
No, it's a legend. No one knows if it's true or not. I like to think it is. You can practice enough to do anything. Paganini had Marfan's syndrome, which made his fingers extraordinarily long.
Lassann 2 years ago
I stand corrected. Then again, I still doubt he did it, but that's just my opinion.
C0urante 2 years ago
It is impossible to play this on one string.Physically!The G string is not long enough for all the high notes and wouldn´t allow a fast tempo either.Paganini played the ¨Moises¨ variations on the G string after the other three were torn up
ilkolli 2 years ago
Lassann - you're wrong. Paganini could NOT play the 5th Caprice on one string. And there is no legend or myth that he could. It is true, of course, that Paganini had a whole grab bag full of single-string stunts. But this Caprice is not one of them.
123mortimer456 2 years ago
there aren't enough notes on a single string anyway.
tsirosgoddammit 2 years ago
This is killer to play on guitar. It'll make you break a sweat.
AJest3r 2 years ago
q lokaso
mandibula79 2 years ago
perfect U.U
SachaDeath 2 years ago
I love to hear Kogan play this, any one has it ? please up load, thanks !
sivery70914 2 years ago
hujowo
szpaku64 2 years ago
i guess when you have played that you can play anything after!
zxcvuiop45 2 years ago
Dilemma amletico: Kogan o Milstein?
GoodBadSnape 2 years ago
.Exelente ! , gracias ,desde argentina.
bellinivernon 2 years ago
Heifetz knew Paganini wasn't his strong suit, that why he didn't try too many Paganini's. powerful and dynamic belong to Kogan, he knew his style is close to Paganini, tynicaly being equal, where the charator come out to play, Kogan is better candidate to carry Paganini's torch.
sivery70914 2 years ago
Salvatore Accardo's is recording is top-shelf as well.
GeniusHaydn 2 years ago
Accardo of course is on top of the shelf, so as the legendary of Kreisler(my favorit) Francescatti, Heifetz (I went to see him in the middle of 60' in music center LA), but they are not Paganini, no one can interprete Paganini except Kogan because of they two share the same personalyties, devil's bow spirits, you can tell the intensity through out the music. It was told Kogan he disregarded friends & manager's advise, went ahead for the performance(by train), turned out be his last.
sivery70914 2 years ago
They can interpret it, just not in maybe the way that Paganini would.
oldgoat5 2 years ago
Better than Ricci?
shiveringflower 2 years ago
When compare to R. Ricci please ref. to utube's posting, they both have #24 there. for the clearity of the tone, vibratos, it shows on the live concert of ASTONISING-Leonid Kogan....
sivery70914 2 years ago
I mean none of them is better than Kogan. refer. to "Astonising..." on U-2
sivery70914 2 years ago
Love this! Some people play this and all you hear is the bow, not the notes. This man is so clear and beautiful!
flutist218 2 years ago
しっかし、易しそうに弾きますね。
フィンガリングなんて全く無駄がないというか、合理的というか。
大家の貫禄ですね。
脱帽!
norichka777 2 years ago
makes it look so easy! haha
irenicflutist 2 years ago 2
IN fucking Credible. Ive heard this played at least 20 times, and none have done as well as this guy. BRAVO. IN ESPANOL.
Mattdangerisawesome 2 years ago
0_0 my... hero!!
froterons 2 years ago
This is....AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
eudoxas 2 years ago
mais waouh quoi *.* impressionnant et beau à la fois !
kentin27v 2 years ago
where is that sheet music?
d1n1e11e 2 years ago
each note is so clear
canreader 2 years ago 2
prestige at its best
whoathere69 2 years ago
Oops, not Rabin, but Markov ^^
Requiem77777 3 years ago 2
Nice speed, nice intonation... But the staccatto is not quite done as it should be where Rabin (I think) did it in a quite impressive way !
Requiem77777 3 years ago
Better than Rabin on this one, in my books.
MercilessBrutality 3 years ago
Paganini was a true genius
Manfi123 3 years ago 4
This guy is insanley good. Wow he is soooo talented I can't play that fast yet!
VIOLINIST300 3 years ago 3
Fooly & cooly...
Cacophony89 3 years ago
God!!! incredible!! this is an extreme masterpiece
churi24 3 years ago 4
Good Job!!!!!
violinbffgirl12345 3 years ago 9
ur all idiots, the russian hold simply meant not relying on pressure on strings to create a louder sound, but rather having minimal pressure on the string to create a more resonating and clear sound that echoes alot further than if you were to apply pressure, it's got nothing to do with posture...this is why 21st century violin playing has decayed so badly, it's nothing but pressure on the strings in the hope that the sound would be louder, russian style aka 20th century is still much better
lawlaw122 3 years ago
So let me just get this clear in mind ... because the people below do not share your specific understanding of the 'Russian Hold', they are all idiots. An idiot is a person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of ordinary reasoning. Don't you think you may have gone overboard somewhat with that presumptuous insult? If these people are idiots, then you must be an insufferable boor (and an arsehole of the first order, to boot).
bigbearleeds 3 years ago 3
What you're talking about is a style of sound production, not a bow hold. There is in fact a Russian bow-hold, Carl Flesch writes to great detail about it in his book "The Art of Violin Playing," and in his writing, he does specifically state that the Russian hold permits considerably more leverage to apply weight into the bow than its counterparts. Of course, whether one chooses to take advantage of this leverage is up to the player.
Kyriaeus 3 years ago
The violinist Leonidas Kavakos employs the Russian bow hold, at least by popular definitions: deeper first finger contact, and higher inward rotation. He plays very cleanly with a very even tone, and remarkable projection. His un-miked Sibelius recordings are a testament to that. He also happens to tend towards the heavier side of bowing.
Kyriaeus 3 years ago
no way he lacks ferocity...every piece milstein plays he always takes it head on, thats whats really characteristic of the russian style, and thats what makes milstein one of the greatest ever violinists, his technique was so perfect and refined, his tone was just as good, this in combination with his direct and powerful approach to many standard repetoirs earned him a reputation as a violinist on par with heifetz
lawlaw122 3 years ago
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he lacks ferocity
jx88jx 3 years ago
I agree completely..
iwasadeum 3 years ago
You gotta love the russian bow-hold. Why is it that violin teachers on the whole (at least in America) say that this hold doesn't facilitate good playing? What do they say to a player like Milstein?
alexvollrathsmith 3 years ago
What is Russian bow-hold? When the thumb grips the underside of the frog?
iwasadeum 3 years ago
Simplified, a russian bow-hold has to do with a straightened pinky and subsequently, the other fingers become more straight.
StickFigureMasterDX 3 years ago
You could go by that definition, but then all beginners use the Russian bow hold lol. According to Carl Flesch, the Russian bow hold involves a deeper contact point between the bow and the first finger. With the Franco-Belgian hold, the bow contacts the index finger between the 1st and 2nd joints from the tip, whereas with the Russian hold, the bow contacts the index finger between the 2nd and 3rd joints.
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Kyriaeus 3 years ago
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The deeper contact point results in more inward rotation of the forearm, which then results in a more extended pinky because it has to reach farther to contact the stick.
A lot of people claim to use the Russian bow hold when they're actually using a poorly-formed Franco-Belgian (or similar Galamian) bow hold (their joints collapse and their pinky sticks straight).
Kyriaeus 3 years ago
Oh okay, thanks stickfiguremasterdx and kyriaeus
iwasadeum 3 years ago
A lot of violin teachers in the US claim the Russian hold is stiff and inflexible at the frog due to the relatively high amount of forearm rotation. However, the problem lies not in the bow hold, but the VIOLIN hold and posture. A lot of people hold the violin such that the scroll points directly in front (perpendicular to their body), which means they have to contort their wrist to get the bow perpendicular to the strings. (continued ->)
Kyriaeus 3 years ago
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By turning the violin around so that its scroll is pointing far left, the bow will naturally be perpendicular to the strings without the player having to twist his wrist around. Generally, the taller you are, the more you want to point the scroll away from the center. Heifetz was relatively tall, while Milstein wasn't. Note the differences in how they hold the violin.
Kyriaeus 3 years ago
muy bueno. Sólo me queda la duda si este personaje es familiar de Nicolo Paganini
guty1576 3 years ago
porq habria de serlo?
MAYLO777 3 years ago
Very good!! But I think that there are another better performances.
bertxo 3 years ago
nathan milstein is a GOD!!! just listen to his beethoven, mendelsshon, brahms, and tschaikovsky concerti.
victorolmsted 3 years ago
that was awesome
he has amazing speed
mysteriuoslyatwork 3 years ago
Is Milstein considered the top interpretor of Paganini's Capriccio's? Replys wanted.
mikeinverizon 3 years ago
I wouldn't say so. He lacks ferocity.
MourningsEnd 3 years ago
i dont think so, i would say heifetz is the best but unfortunately he only recorded the number 13 and the 24, maybe u would like to check is rendition of the 24 and see what i mean...
signorpaganini 3 years ago
Some say Kogan is the best Paganini player.Of course , they are all very good.Too bad Heifetz didn't record more Paganini caprices...Then we would have known for sure:)
theViolinDreamer 3 years ago
Technically, Ruggiero Ricci is considered to be the Paganini man, and nowadays Salvatore Accardo is acquiring that status as well. Personally, I prefer the way the old masters such as Milstein/Heifetz play Paganini because they play Paganini in a more standard concerto-like fashion. Although Ricci/Accardo are probably more authentic when it comes to playing Paganini in the Italian, Paganini-esque way.
AbsoluteZ3R0 3 years ago
SO FREAAAAAAKING FAST
musicequaloxygen 3 years ago
ever time he hits that high note a kitten dies... haha. just kidding. theres no telling how many times this guy rehearsed this... amazing.
shanewesleygtr 3 years ago
FABULOUS! Perhaps all do not appreciate Paganini's Caprices but all violinist's do! They are challenging for most of us, but out and out fun at the same time. Personally, I love listening to them, but I am a violinist..I also love comparing and contrasting styles of different players on these caprices. These pieces are a fine study in bowing, intonation (tons of chromatics) and runs--playing in the symphony often consists of playing RUNS:runs and runs and runs, These are an interesting study
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago 4
lol i hate runs, especiall for the rachmaninov no. 3 :(
xXLeafXNinjaXx 3 years ago
that's becouse you can t play them
Doctor550 3 years ago
pobre interpretacion la verdad se queda corta comparada con la de Perlman. La toca muy bajito y se equivoca mucho a lo largo de la pieza
SUPERPAGANINI 3 years ago
que demonios?? no es una pobre interpretación, es uno de los mejores violinistas del siglo XX interpretando de manera magistral una pieza dificilísima,muy bajito? bajito respecto de que? ademas no se equivoca para absolutamente nada, es afinadisimo, su tecnica es concisa, su arco espectacular, el tempo es apropiado, es una de las mejores interpretaciones de la historia, y de hecho Perlman, aunque es casi mi favorito y lo idolatro, en una grabación de este mismo capricho, se equivoca rotundamente
henryprost 3 years ago 2
se nota q no has escuchado otras interpetaciones de este capricho con renombrados violinistas
o a lo mejor para ti este es la mejor de todas pero para mi no
SUPERPAGANINI 2 years ago
Milstein es un renombrado violinista
maturanesa 2 years ago
Milstein es considerado uno de los genios del siglo pasado, con una limpieza unica y una obsesion por la articulacion de los dedos. El fue unico aunque pienso que Heifetz fue el mejor tocando piezas de Paganini
Edoom21 2 years ago
Pviola and Isosphere, you are the hell wrong!! Paganini, Locatelli, Bazzini for example, those who wondered and took the technique to unknown limits, were extreme musicians an excelent players, Schumann, Beethoven, Bach, these are virtuoso too! and no one will say they irrespected the music right? you know Pierre Rode? Fiorillo? Dont? Kreutzer? those where virtuoso players that aported to the study of technic and playing,virtuoso of course, which is part of the music, as well as Paganini
henryprost 3 years ago
No no no WTF?? how you can say or even think, going to the ultimate technic and develop de violin to the extreme, ultimate and most wonderful limits is overstressing the instrument and somwhow irrespecting the music?? this is part of the music!! virtuosity and extreme technic es part of playing any instrument, if you know how is to play and instrument, would know that ALWAYS you have yo play velocity, afination and virtuoso exercises, this is music, difficult, top technique, and WONDERFUL music
henryprost 3 years ago
it's all about the tourte... or kittel
ellegin88 3 years ago
1 min and 32 listen
signorpaganini 3 years ago 2
Oye klk palomo, pongase a estudiar en su casa, y deje de estar criticando a un maestro como Milstein. oyó carajo! Buena mierda
waseen71 3 years ago
Oh yes....VOCÊ TEM UM BOM OUVIDO...deve entender muito de musica!!!
vivizinhahLH 3 years ago
Oh yes....VOCÊ TEM UM BOM OUVIDO...deve entender muito de musica!!!
vivizinhahLH 3 years ago
the brain it's the only limit to understand
emanueleapuzzo 3 years ago 2
I talk again i can not speark any think about great iolinists.
takhirviolinest 3 years ago
impresionante este conchesumadre
macguionbajo 3 years ago
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Boring artistry. Where ist the music?
To hell with Paganini.
Isosphere 3 years ago
Care to elaborate?
Chad48309 3 years ago
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Paganini and the violinists are over-stressing the instrument. Listen to the upwards and downwards scale-runs, one is a cat-like MEEUOWW and the other scale is scratching like a diamond saw in granite, the notes consisting of 90% attack noise and only 10% sustain. One should respect the physical limits of music.
Isosphere 3 years ago
That's your opinion, I suppose. Pressing boundaries as far as they can go is something that I admire about all forms of music.
Chad48309 3 years ago 3