@rebelsike Yay but whoever buys this truck as a V10 then the are stupid i hate cummins but if i were to get this truck i would get the cummins in it just because it would be gas hog and it doesnt putout as much horses and torque
No the numbers for this engine aren't astronomical, but the engine is tuned to achieve its best numbers at a lower engine speed (rpm). The EcoBoost v-6 doesnt hit 365 hp til 5500 rpm, and 420 lbft til 3500rpm, where as the v-10 hits 362hp at 4750 rpm and 457 lbft at 2500 rpm. What that means is you dont have to run the engine as hard. Lower engine speed = less fuel use and ultimately longer engine life . The Ecoboost is a great engine, but theyre designed for different uses different purposes.
OOOOOOOOPS sounds like Ford has an overstock V-10s they need to burn through while they can still meet the current emission standards! Great marketing guys...
$8,000 less than the DIESEL option. No need to worry about SELECTIVE CATALYTIC REDUCTION (SCR), DIESEL EXAUST FLUID (DEF), DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTER (DPF), DPF REGENERATION CYCLE (REGEN-wich consumes DIESEL FUEL) HIGH DIESEL FUEL PRICES, HIGH DIESEL REPAIR COSTS, 36% MORE COST TO OPERARE MODERN DIESEL ENGINES...Well, where is the DIESEL option advantage now??? DIESEL MPG??? Shattered by it's need for DIESEL EXHAUST FLUID and high MANTAINANCE and OPERATION COSTS. Don't blame me, is E.P.A's fault.
I think this is a smart move for FORD. And the "virtual" advantage the DIESEL option may have over the V10 GAS option fades away. First the V10 GAS F650 will be $8,000 less than de DIESEL option. The fuel consumption advantage the DIESEL option has over the V10 (10%) even goes away if you consider that the DIESEL option NEEDS an aditional aditive called DIESEL EXHAUST FLUID for proper operation of the SCR SYSTEM. Add to that the DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTER wich consumes DIESEL fuel on its REGEN
okay, i own a 2008 F-350 dually with the 6.8L V-10 and the 5 speed auto , wtf ??? .. their pieces of SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .... i get 5 AVERAGE MPG , it has no power , and its getting ready to blow up , why in the F*** would i want a F-650 with that piece of shit motor in it , grow the F*** up and buy a diesel , i am going to buy a 6.7 L diesel and never buying another gas motored truck , FORD MOTOR COMPANY - GET OUT OF THE OFFICE AND DRIVE ONE OF THESE TRUCKS FOR A LIVING
@hinesquarterhorses -Whaaat? you own a "08 f350 DUALLY v10(Gas engine)"?and its about to blow up? ok, you ever heard of "Maintenance"?how in the living hell are you gonna blow up something like that, in such a short time?Theres nothing wrong with your truck, its the shithead owner that doesnt know how to do a simple oil change.I own a f 150 Saleen,and I just use it for cruising around, even my truck, the engine would blow up on a poor maintennance.Learn how to whip ur ass before buying a dually
@wilburfudd 362hp 457ft lb torque. The torque is the important number. Horsepower isnt what does the work. Also the RPM at which the HP/TQ is made also matters. The V-10 will have a wider power band that starts and less RPM.
@Lambo6fo The Ranger, F-150, F-250, F-350, F-450, and F-550 are all light-duty trucks. The F-650 and F-750 are medium-duty trucks. Ford doesn't make any heavy-duty truck (those are produced by companies such as Freightliner, International, Mack, Peterbilt, and Volvo).
imagine if they would have done the variable valve timing and all that new stuff like on the new "5.0L mustang" to that V10.. WITH ECOBOOST!! omg.. that shit would PWN!!
Wow, this is a huge fail. Gas engine several ton vehicle = heart attack at the pump. Any respectful person will calculate fuel costs and see for a heavy duty work truck a diesel is the clear winner by miles.
@ShepperdW You should watch the video over again. Ford says they think they can narrow the difference between gas and diesel in the F-650 application to about 10 percent (in favor of diesel). The latest national average for fuel shows diesel costing $.40 more than RUG plus you'll pay an extra $8,000 for a diesel over a gas engine at purchase time. Ford is betting states (many of which are facing budget problems) will opt for a lower-priced truck that runs on gas instead of diesel.
@Carscom Nah. These big trucks need to run on premium to maintain proper function with these heavy loads. Premium and diesel 40 cents apart? Hell no. Maybe you should learn about trucks.
this engine was kind of sluggish in the super duty, i could only imagine how much of a dog this thing will be in this big ass thing. and the sterring wheel, ford hasn;'t used that steering wheel since what? like 2005? got that freshened up interior with an old steering wheel. we'll see how this truck performs, with 457 lb ft of tq, this thing shouldnt be too bad.
i know nothing about trucks, forgive my ignorance, but the power numbers seem compatible low for such a big engine no? am i completely missing something? i know the price difference is huge and their is no comparisons but forgive me for saying, some mercedes top 800 torques and the they're coming from v8s. Again, forgive the ignorance.
@Ji99i3 Making an engine put out more power causes excess stress on the engine, as does pulling around 20,000 lbs. They could make this engine put out 800lb/ft, but doing that combined with the very heavy loads it will have to cope with will destroy the engine very quickly...They are aiming for longevity and low cost operation, not performance
Wow, a gasoline commercial truck that will comparable to a diesel?, image what kind of power or energy savings they can achieve from a real diesel truck incorporating these latest technology.
Take that junk 6.8 out and make an Ecoboost with the new 5.0 block... If the 3.5 Ecoboost makes 365hp and 420lbs/ft imagine how deadly a 5.0 would be..
@Zephas99 Good god. Could you imagine the sheer power that beast would have? Even a twin turbo V V T and high pressure direct injection on the 5.4 would be awesome.
6.8l V10 and only 362hp? Really? What bullshit. And the torque aint that great either. Other manufacturers get the same ammount of power and torque from a much smaller V6 / inline-6. And that while getting way better mileage than this huge V10 aswell.
As great as Fords latest cars and trucks might be ... hands down, they still can't build good engines. The new V6 EcoBoost engines might be an exception, but then again, those were designed and first built in Europe ...
@ratmtbola its not meant to be a high performance engine, sure people can get 600+ HP with an engine less than half the size of this, but this engine will last 10 to 20 times longer, plus a high performance motor cost more $ too.
@FordNissanChevy Yeah I know, it's not meant to be a high performance engine. But then, why did they go for a nearly 7l big gas guzzling V10 instead of a much more economical V8 or even V6 that produces the same ammount of power and torque?
@telj1 Yes, and? Who says that a work truck has to have a V8 or even a V10 like this one? A good V6 would make the same ammount of power and torque, while using much less gas than the V10. So why not use one?
@ratmtbola So why not use one??? hmmmm..... you let me know of a heavy work duty v6/v8 truck that is successful @ it's task. NON-diesel But then again I'm no engineer. I'd like to believe they'd push out the most efficient overall product that is possible @ the time to benefit the company.
Most passenger car engines are getting smaller/more efficient. Maybe in a few years more options on larger vehicles will follow...????
@telj1 You want to know a heavy work duty truck with a V6/V8 that's succesful? Just turn your head to Europe or Japan (or basically anywhere outside and the US) and you'll see nothing else besides V6's and V8's in heavy duty work trucks.
And if a V8 or V6 can get the exact same ammount of power AND torque, while getting much better mileage, then why not use? Thise huge V10 is just a huge waste of gas.
@psygtr22 The gas one doesnt put out as much horses or torque thts wat i ment
psygtr22 4 days ago
@rebelsike Yay but whoever buys this truck as a V10 then the are stupid i hate cummins but if i were to get this truck i would get the cummins in it just because it would be gas hog and it doesnt putout as much horses and torque
psygtr22 4 days ago
Ford sucks
GodFatherv12 3 weeks ago
am I the only one who muted this guy???
cumminsrkt 1 month ago
No the numbers for this engine aren't astronomical, but the engine is tuned to achieve its best numbers at a lower engine speed (rpm). The EcoBoost v-6 doesnt hit 365 hp til 5500 rpm, and 420 lbft til 3500rpm, where as the v-10 hits 362hp at 4750 rpm and 457 lbft at 2500 rpm. What that means is you dont have to run the engine as hard. Lower engine speed = less fuel use and ultimately longer engine life . The Ecoboost is a great engine, but theyre designed for different uses different purposes.
rebelsike 1 month ago
OOOOOOOOPS sounds like Ford has an overstock V-10s they need to burn through while they can still meet the current emission standards! Great marketing guys...
Mrphatbastard1 1 month ago
You're nuts to buy this truck w/ a V10 gutless gas pig. Opt for tha 6.7L Cummins
LastWillandTesticle 2 months ago
How much is this monster!?
BoJawadF 2 months ago
fuck yeah B) thats awesome!
ChevyBM 2 months ago
my dad has the v 10 gas one
webhijacker1 3 months ago
man screw that it retarded to put a gas engine in that thing diesel is so much better
TheLargecars 4 months ago
Uhm the f350 superduty has a 6.8 liter v10 as well?
TheNewbpowner123 4 months ago
With the right gearing I'm positive 90% of the people that will own one of these won't notice the difference in power from the diesels.
tyrone121285 7 months ago
With Gas at 4$ a gallon, Ford decides its time to kill the Ranger !!
Dumb Ass Move Ford
subinct 7 months ago
@subinct your just jealous you cant afford it, because your a bum
webhijacker1 3 months ago
me want one for Christmas :D
points2shopPROOF 8 months ago
FORD MOTOR CO.please pay attention to this...Time to get an ECO-BOOST upgrade for the 6.8 V10! And make true that 7.0 V8 ECO-BOOST being rumored.
EM6285 11 months ago
$8,000 less than the DIESEL option. No need to worry about SELECTIVE CATALYTIC REDUCTION (SCR), DIESEL EXAUST FLUID (DEF), DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTER (DPF), DPF REGENERATION CYCLE (REGEN-wich consumes DIESEL FUEL) HIGH DIESEL FUEL PRICES, HIGH DIESEL REPAIR COSTS, 36% MORE COST TO OPERARE MODERN DIESEL ENGINES...Well, where is the DIESEL option advantage now??? DIESEL MPG??? Shattered by it's need for DIESEL EXHAUST FLUID and high MANTAINANCE and OPERATION COSTS. Don't blame me, is E.P.A's fault.
EM6285 11 months ago
I think this is a smart move for FORD. And the "virtual" advantage the DIESEL option may have over the V10 GAS option fades away. First the V10 GAS F650 will be $8,000 less than de DIESEL option. The fuel consumption advantage the DIESEL option has over the V10 (10%) even goes away if you consider that the DIESEL option NEEDS an aditional aditive called DIESEL EXHAUST FLUID for proper operation of the SCR SYSTEM. Add to that the DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTER wich consumes DIESEL fuel on its REGEN
EM6285 11 months ago
Natural Gas V10 wow ... now we r talkin
hannurk 11 months ago
AND THERE IS A REASON THEY DONT PUT THEM IN THE F-250 TO THE F-550 , THEIR JUNK !!!
hinesquarterhorses 11 months ago
okay, i own a 2008 F-350 dually with the 6.8L V-10 and the 5 speed auto , wtf ??? .. their pieces of SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .... i get 5 AVERAGE MPG , it has no power , and its getting ready to blow up , why in the F*** would i want a F-650 with that piece of shit motor in it , grow the F*** up and buy a diesel , i am going to buy a 6.7 L diesel and never buying another gas motored truck , FORD MOTOR COMPANY - GET OUT OF THE OFFICE AND DRIVE ONE OF THESE TRUCKS FOR A LIVING
hinesquarterhorses 11 months ago
@hinesquarterhorses -Whaaat? you own a "08 f350 DUALLY v10(Gas engine)"?and its about to blow up? ok, you ever heard of "Maintenance"?how in the living hell are you gonna blow up something like that, in such a short time?Theres nothing wrong with your truck, its the shithead owner that doesnt know how to do a simple oil change.I own a f 150 Saleen,and I just use it for cruising around, even my truck, the engine would blow up on a poor maintennance.Learn how to whip ur ass before buying a dually
keithgreen441 11 months ago
DAMN! ford is still using that pathetic V10?! at least ecoboost it and tune it for torque!
alandona3 11 months ago
did he say that the horse power was in the 300s....thats a little more than my car that has a 3.8L V6...maybe I miss herd him ......twice....
wilburfudd 11 months ago
@wilburfudd It's a truck, not a sports car. How much torque does your car have to plow a street?
Carscom 11 months ago 17
@wilburfudd lower HP means better mileage/gallon and more torque at lower RPM.
manoman0 11 months ago
@wilburfudd big trucks like this rely highly on torque more than they do on horesepower in sports cars
macbookpro57 8 months ago
@wilburfudd 362hp 457ft lb torque. The torque is the important number. Horsepower isnt what does the work. Also the RPM at which the HP/TQ is made also matters. The V-10 will have a wider power band that starts and less RPM.
torque395 3 months ago
@wilburfudd 363 horses
atomiccheeseburger69 2 weeks ago
Medium duty? What does that make a Ranger? a non duty? wtf?
Lambo6fo 11 months ago
@Lambo6fo The Ranger, F-150, F-250, F-350, F-450, and F-550 are all light-duty trucks. The F-650 and F-750 are medium-duty trucks. Ford doesn't make any heavy-duty truck (those are produced by companies such as Freightliner, International, Mack, Peterbilt, and Volvo).
porsche911sbs 11 months ago
imagine if they would have done the variable valve timing and all that new stuff like on the new "5.0L mustang" to that V10.. WITH ECOBOOST!! omg.. that shit would PWN!!
mean71cuda 11 months ago
Wow, this is a huge fail. Gas engine several ton vehicle = heart attack at the pump. Any respectful person will calculate fuel costs and see for a heavy duty work truck a diesel is the clear winner by miles.
igeekone 11 months ago
I think this guy is an idiot. The diesel gets enough better gas mileage to make up for the cost of diesel fuel to gas and the initial cost of one
ShepperdW 11 months ago 3
@ShepperdW You should watch the video over again. Ford says they think they can narrow the difference between gas and diesel in the F-650 application to about 10 percent (in favor of diesel). The latest national average for fuel shows diesel costing $.40 more than RUG plus you'll pay an extra $8,000 for a diesel over a gas engine at purchase time. Ford is betting states (many of which are facing budget problems) will opt for a lower-priced truck that runs on gas instead of diesel.
Carscom 11 months ago 10
@Carscom Nah. These big trucks need to run on premium to maintain proper function with these heavy loads. Premium and diesel 40 cents apart? Hell no. Maybe you should learn about trucks.
ShepperdW 11 months ago
@Carscom You are not going to get any TORQUE from a gasser. Opt for the 6.7L Cummins instead. BTW 6.7L Powerstoke is NOT an option!
LastWillandTesticle 2 months ago
@ShepperdW No, he's not. Dieselengines only pay off doing miles, miles and more miles (Transport etc.)
manoman0 11 months ago
@manoman0 What the fuck do you think these trucks will be used for?
ShepperdW 11 months ago
@ShepperdW I think you want to reply to the presenter, not to me...
manoman0 11 months ago
@manoman0 ?
ShepperdW 11 months ago
@ShepperdW nevermind. Or: I don't think we have different opinions, maybe some misunderstanding on my part. or your part. I'm fine.
manoman0 11 months ago
that engine is complete shit.
rocketballa4life 11 months ago
this engine was kind of sluggish in the super duty, i could only imagine how much of a dog this thing will be in this big ass thing. and the sterring wheel, ford hasn;'t used that steering wheel since what? like 2005? got that freshened up interior with an old steering wheel. we'll see how this truck performs, with 457 lb ft of tq, this thing shouldnt be too bad.
NissanTy 11 months ago
twin turboed and put it in a mustang hellll yeahhh
robe2708 11 months ago
@SixHundredHP
lmao
juukyuu7666 11 months ago
i know nothing about trucks, forgive my ignorance, but the power numbers seem compatible low for such a big engine no? am i completely missing something? i know the price difference is huge and their is no comparisons but forgive me for saying, some mercedes top 800 torques and the they're coming from v8s. Again, forgive the ignorance.
Ji99i3 11 months ago
@Ji99i3 basically, that truck weighs like a million tons thats why.
t0k1d0k1eighty8 11 months ago
@Ji99i3 Making an engine put out more power causes excess stress on the engine, as does pulling around 20,000 lbs. They could make this engine put out 800lb/ft, but doing that combined with the very heavy loads it will have to cope with will destroy the engine very quickly...They are aiming for longevity and low cost operation, not performance
flynmid 11 months ago
Wow, a gasoline commercial truck that will comparable to a diesel?, image what kind of power or energy savings they can achieve from a real diesel truck incorporating these latest technology.
LTF85199 11 months ago
No crew cab?
bmw760li150 11 months ago
looks like anaheim and orange county found a new, just fucking great
Alex19al 11 months ago
Damn this is a hot truck. I want one!
Hummers222 11 months ago
A skinny guy talking about trucks? wtf
DavidWood17 11 months ago
Take that junk 6.8 out and make an Ecoboost with the new 5.0 block... If the 3.5 Ecoboost makes 365hp and 420lbs/ft imagine how deadly a 5.0 would be..
WoZIMoo 11 months ago 2
that steering wheel is huge
DevPack 11 months ago
The steering wheel is from 1998!!!
lostchildren 11 months ago 53
@lostchildren LMAO!
jacoale 11 months ago
0-60--- It's gonna be a while folks
jacoale 11 months ago
@lostchildren It's vintage :D
mrjost55 11 months ago 2
@lostchildren o sh%t it is loooool. left over stock!
Fuscoooo 11 months ago 2
SEE THE VIDEO FROM GM CALLED
( WHEN CAR DEALERS ATTACK )
workingmen1 11 months ago
What about doing an eco-boost make-over on that V10?
Zephas99 11 months ago 31
@Zephas99 How about a Twin-SC??
manoman0 11 months ago
@Zephas99 Good god. Could you imagine the sheer power that beast would have? Even a twin turbo V V T and high pressure direct injection on the 5.4 would be awesome.
torque395 3 months ago
Sealed beams in 2011 ?
timarc124 11 months ago
6.8l V10 and only 362hp? Really? What bullshit. And the torque aint that great either. Other manufacturers get the same ammount of power and torque from a much smaller V6 / inline-6. And that while getting way better mileage than this huge V10 aswell.
As great as Fords latest cars and trucks might be ... hands down, they still can't build good engines. The new V6 EcoBoost engines might be an exception, but then again, those were designed and first built in Europe ...
ratmtbola 11 months ago
@ratmtbola its not meant to be a high performance engine, sure people can get 600+ HP with an engine less than half the size of this, but this engine will last 10 to 20 times longer, plus a high performance motor cost more $ too.
FordNissanChevy 11 months ago
@FordNissanChevy Yeah I know, it's not meant to be a high performance engine. But then, why did they go for a nearly 7l big gas guzzling V10 instead of a much more economical V8 or even V6 that produces the same ammount of power and torque?
ratmtbola 11 months ago
@ratmtbola exactly. what i was thinking.
CaughtMyDream 11 months ago
@ratmtbola You do realize this a work truck, medium duty???
telj1 11 months ago
@telj1 Yes, and? Who says that a work truck has to have a V8 or even a V10 like this one? A good V6 would make the same ammount of power and torque, while using much less gas than the V10. So why not use one?
ratmtbola 11 months ago
@ratmtbola So why not use one??? hmmmm..... you let me know of a heavy work duty v6/v8 truck that is successful @ it's task. NON-diesel But then again I'm no engineer. I'd like to believe they'd push out the most efficient overall product that is possible @ the time to benefit the company.
Most passenger car engines are getting smaller/more efficient. Maybe in a few years more options on larger vehicles will follow...????
telj1 11 months ago
@telj1 You want to know a heavy work duty truck with a V6/V8 that's succesful? Just turn your head to Europe or Japan (or basically anywhere outside and the US) and you'll see nothing else besides V6's and V8's in heavy duty work trucks.
And if a V8 or V6 can get the exact same ammount of power AND torque, while getting much better mileage, then why not use? Thise huge V10 is just a huge waste of gas.
ratmtbola 11 months ago
not first!!!
MfalmeVTold 11 months ago
first!!!
andreshates 11 months ago