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  • OUTLANDZ!!!

  • hey was this in the DVD or video? which one? cuz i have the original DVD! not the one that JUST came out! the one that came out like early 2000

  • is this acherly a deleted scean in lion king 2

  • If they just added this scene then it would have been so much clearer than to have to figure out who was Scar's son/father, yadda yadda yadda

  • AND Also for the movie. =]

  • They should of kept it maybe people would be more considerate of bugs.

  • i like it when she says whats the matter with you on 0:14

  • So kovu lives in the guetto and he's black

  • kovu's so cute

  • Zira reminds me of Mother Gothel.....

  • @lauraandjamesjo4 I think you mean Mother Gothel reminds you of Zira.....

  • @SparkyArtz You get my point.

  • zira is creepy

  • They should of left this in... there is too much confusion over whether or not Kovu is Scar's son or not

  • @Otterwhisker1 There shouldn't be; in the movie, both Nuka and Kovu mention that Scar isn't Kovu's father, just his heir.

  • When you think about it, the hyenas killed scar, not Simba.

  • I find it hilareous how they keep trying to tell us Kovu isn't Scar's kid, he just happens to look just like him. And Nala's father, well they just avoid that entirely, because it was either Mufasa or Scar as they were the cooalition males running the place and both complicate things. Disney Lions have only the vaugest resemblence to real lions, which is a good thing really, because while lions are stunning creatures they also love their infantcide a wee bit too much. Love the movies though ^^

  • @Velasa Why is it wrong for Kiara and Kovu to be cousins and married when it's likely that Simba and Nala were either siblings or cousins and they got married?

  • @fubukifangirl Because Disney had plausible deniability for Nala's parentage, but not for Kovu or Kiara.

    It's more that it's squicky for people and the lions need to have people morals. Thus why they have nothing to do with real lions. (as a note, real lions drive all the young males out at a certain point to avoid incest/keep all the ladies for themselves)

  • I wish they hadn't left this part out. Everyone thinks Kovu is Scars son. (and that the Kovu/Kiara romance is incest..) They should have explained that better in the movie...

  • @Ciklide well Kovu says in the movie that Scar wasnt his father

  • So, who was Nala's father I wonder 0.o

  • @AutonomousBawnian apparently it was scar -- if you look in the original movie they have exactly the same eyes and it would make sense as otherwise simba and nala would be half siblings D8

  • Zira: When you rule, we shall no longer be forced to live in these dry, barren, disgusting, pathetic, termite infested Outlands!

    Kovu: So why don't we move?

  • what the hell is wrong with the screen?? i cant see anything only greenish stuff

  • Disney should have kept this scene in. It would have made the origins of Kovu a heck of a lot clearer.

  • /Why/ did they leave this scene out?! I just don't get it. I know they wanted to be vague/etc about Kovu's origins, but the movement, the expression in Zira is just incredible. She's the most emotional character from the second movie, hands down, and it makes her so likeable, even if she's a completely psychotic bitch.

  • Woah, Zira is...Such a psycho mother, poor Kovu.

    But I like her somehow, I`m impressed how her brain works lol XD

  • well, this explains a lot.

  • The cuts scenes always are the best :P

  • Why did they cut this? This makes so much sense! Fail Disney. :P

  • including this scene would've made the whole scar and kovu relationship easier to understand..

  • Zira actually seems kinda nice in this. well until the end...

  • Zira actually seems kinda nice in this.

  • You know, I've always wondered this. Why would Zira stay in the Out lands when there are other places to go besides the pride lands? I understand Simba exiled her to the Out Lands, but I think common sense should have told her to go look for a new place to live, since she seems to complain about her living conditions a lot..

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies I always wondered that as well. o_O

  • @idioticlisa maybe its because every other place is ruled by other lions?? I dont know, maybe there isnt another place TO go. But i could be wrong, who knows :p

  • @idioticlisa Africa is BIG. Same question.

  • @idioticlisa Yeah, why not take over the Oasis since Timon and Pumbaa left. Oh, wait. I forgot the Meerkat colony. Well, kill them off and take over the Oasis.

  • @idioticlisa Me three. x]

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies maybe the lions own all of the land? and they only let them in the outlands?

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies because she wanted revenge for scar, so she stayed until kovu was old enough to kill simba. apparently revenge was more important to her than living conditions O.o

  • @xXDarkness101Xx Wow ahha. Talk about getting your priority's mixed up eh XD?!

  • @NinjasAndTheZombiesWell she's kinda vindicative. So, the one reason she has got to stay is to kill her "enemy" : Simba, and take revenge on Scar.

    But I got your point, it's confusing when you think about it.

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies cuz zira is one of those stubborn bitches that cant take no for an answer so she stalked simba and his entire family

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies

    That's like me telling you after I kill your husband/wife to just "move on" afterwards. It's not that simple.

    -She lost her Scar, her mate.

    -She lost her homeland and got exiled to a pitiful cesspool.

    -Her firstborn (Nuka) was killed.

    -Her entire pride and even her own remaining offspring turned against her.

    These aren't things you just "let go" or "move on" from.

    As Zira stated when Simba told her to put the past behind her-

    "I'll NEVER let it go!"

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies

    Not only that, notice the following scene-

    "Kovu! Don't let it go!"

    "I'll NEVER let it go!"

    "This is for you...SCAR!"

    She is INCREDIBLY hateful, and for good reason.

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies

    I think it's because she wanted revenge :3

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies She'd want to stay near her enemy, and track his progress hence Nuka and Vitani are spies. They're children(or at least Vitani is) so she wouldn't make them go too far.

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies I think that it's because there were other prides surrounding the Pridelands, and that Zira wanted to fulfill Scar's wish, and make Kovu his successor and King of Pride Rock.

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies Maybe the surrounding areas were just deserts? Then again Timon and Pumba's Hakuna Mattata paradise land was a good alternate, but I think you would have to traverse the desert to get to that place. After all, Sahara Desert in Africa is the largest desert in the world

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies

    Yeah she could of went where Timon and Pumbaa lived.

    Dumb ass

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies I always figured it was that grudge against simba 'stealing' her land and killing Scar. Plus she wouldn't accept being a low ranking lion, she wanted to be at the top. Even if she got to another land, it would most likely be inhabited by other lions and without a strong male, she wouldn't be able to rule as she'd like and leave anyways.

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies Because she was obsessed.

  • @NinjasAndTheZombies I always thought because she wanted revenge she stayed close.

  • Well this was probably the most informative scene and they took it out. I still to this day argue with morons who go But dur Kovu's Scar's son a dur he married his cousin ewwies. He's not Scar's frigging kid!

  • zira:dry terrmite infested OUTLANDS

    me: i thought you liked the outlands. =|

    zira: where did you come from?

    me: i'm your guardien angel. ;)

    zira: (slaps me)

    me: ow!

  • @alipazagaful lame

  • this should've been in the movie t explains more how kovu and kirara aren't related

  • I think the cut scenes should be in the original movie they will explain a lot of things like Scar not being Kovu's fater

    and btw how did you get the cut scenes

  • lol slap the bug i keep laughing at that i dunno y...

  • Kovu is so adorable :)

  • Zira needs to pick up Yoga D:

  • No. Zira is Kovu's mother. There is just an unknown father. Dont't bother replying.

  • I'm confused...who is Kovu's father or don't we know?

    If you think about it, Scar did get his wish because Kovu is Kiara's mate and he will become the new king.

  • if Scar'd be Kovus father, then Kovu would be Nalas cousin :)

    let's immagine Kovu just split from some other lion like an amoeba :D

  • damn, i spelled things wrong on my other posts. >:( how did i pass the fucking spelling test when i can't spell it right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i hate my teacher for making me fail on the math test! i want my old teacher back! or maybe nuka could be my teacher! i don't care who's my teacher! unless she's mrs.redding.

  • lol.

    Zira- then we wouldn't be forced to be living in this disgusiting, pafatic, termite infested OUT LANDS!!!!!!!

    me- i thought you liked the outlands!

  • Scar HAS to be Kovu's father! I mean just look at how passionate, obsessed, & crazy Zira is about Scar! I doubt that woman would sleep with ANYONE ELSE but Scar! Scar's the only person she'd let fuck her crazy psychotic ass!

  • if Kovu was Scar's son, then why the fuck did Kiara and Kovu fell in love with each other? well, if he was Scar's son, Kiara would have been in love with someone else. maybe someone raped Zira. idk,but Zira could've been raped when she was asleep.

  • @alipazagaful

    good point. but think about it through an animal's mind. they don't really care if their mate is related to them or not.

  • @alipazagaful Kovu is Not Scar's son.

  • @Sangoforever i know!

  • @Booncier She's not his mom, listen carefully, theysaid Scar found him and took him in, more then likely Zira's honoring his dieing wish

  • kovu dont let it go SMACK

  • What...? Why the hell did they take this out?! :\

  • they shoulda kept this scene so ppl wouldn't be so confused about scar not being kovu's father

  • @dementedsagittarius there are 2 points in the film where they say scar isnt kvou's father

  • i know they do but ppl still seem to think that scar is his father because they don't pay attention. If they would've kept this scene where zira put emphasis on it maybe the argument would stop

  • wen zira grabs the bug and smacks it down i hade a laughin fit lolz it was so funny

  • 00:43

    AAAAUGH! Giant mouth! Don't eat me!

  • Zira isn't even close to being scarier and more evil than Scar. She's evil and all, but Scar..heh. Don't mess with him.

  • yes, don't mess with Scar. when i see Scar's face i scream!

  • Zira is kind of reminding me of Hitler. :/

  • Scar was based on Hitler. Or, at least they had set him up to be a lot like him. Notice the way the Hyena's marched.

  • holy fuck that's kinda true.

    "No weaklings here blablabla!..."

  • lol!

  • Pause at :44.

  • aww kovu is so cute. seriously ziras such a bitch

  • yup, Zira is a bitch. i think Kovu is cute when he was a cub. when he let that bug go, it was nice of him. it shows the cuteness of him. he's so adorable as a cub! yeah, Zira is a bitch. she was focused on getting revenge for Scar instead of realizing how cute Kovu and Vitani were when they were cubs.

  • Zira sure has a big mouth. I love how pissed off she gets towards the end and the way she says "termite infected outlands!" It's like her tone's seeping with rage but it's not quite an out burst.

  • Yeah me too!! I adore the animation on this ; ; <3

  • I love her little fit towards the end.

  • Scar wasn't Kovu's father.

  • wow 0:37 Zira was really pissed off lol :P

  • omg 0:44 is so funny!!!

  • Kovu, don't let it go... SMACK!

    lmao that was so funny

  • LOL i dunno why but i find the part where zira slams the bug onto the ground hilarious xDD

    or maybe im jus a sadist *shrugs*

  • zira:dry terrmite infested OUTLANDS

    kovo:I think iv gone deff.

  • Spellcheck, please.

  • Zira: I HATE BUGSSSSSsSSS!

    Kovu: Mommy did you forget to take your pills?

  • LMAO

  • O o

    Its just a friggin' bug!!

    Dang shes got some MAJOR issues.

  • Yeah, this adds more to Zira's character and I guess builds on her being an antagonists, and sets IN STONE that SCAR IS NOT KOVU'S FATHER. Because yes, even though they say it a zillion times in the movie, as you've seen, people still miss that little bit.

    And I'm prolly going to get lots of hate for this, but honestly, it would make more sense, and wouldn't be so bad if Kovu was Scar's son. Yes, it's incest, but honestly, cousins who marry are extremely common in other parts of the world.

  • Not to mention that they're lions, and therefore in real life don't have taboos against incest.

    Don't think bad of me for saying that, I really don't mean to step on anyone's morals, I'm just throwing that out there.

  • Yeah, but.. Scar should've been Kovu's father! I honestly think the only reason they didn't do that, was because kids would figure out that they were cousins.

    I agree though. It would make much more sense if Scar WAS Kovu's father.

    Also, I like this scene. Shows how nutso Zira is. :]

  • I also think it would have been better if Kovu was really Scar's son. Scar is just not the type to name a cub he didn't sire his heir, let alone take him in. This IS Scar we're talking about.

    I actually think Zira lied to Simba about Kovu to keep the cub alive (afraid Simba would kill Scar's real son) and just kept the lie up.

  • Agreed. But then again there's something funky going on with generations in this, cos Kovu would have to have been born when Scar was still alive, making him technically from Simba's generation and not Kiaras. But whatever, he's close enough to her age. You have to wodner exactly how soon after Simba leaving Scar knocked Zira up.

    I personally think it would have been cool is it turned out Kovu was Simba's cub, by some freak of genetics *shrug* but then again, maybe too Eastenders.

  • Wait wait, I'm confused how would Kovu being Scar's son be incest?

  • Because if Kovu was Scar's son, then Kiara would have fallen in love with her cousin since Scar would be her uncle. Damn family relations. x3

  • Scar would be her great uncle, actually; Simba's uncle is Scar. But yeah, pretty much.

  • Woops, you're right. So that would put... Kovu into Simba's generation. That's messed up. xD But I guess I shouldn't be talking. My half sister is 42 and my nephew is 20. *2 years older than I am*

  • :P weird!

  • I agree it would have been incest...but I think that young children would not have seen anything wrong with it and it would have made more sense as to how come he was going to be scar's heir.

  • @TehLB Especially in the animal world. XD

  • @TehLB i agree

    plus it is common for lions to marry/mate inside of their families

  • @TehLB Its actually legal in most US states for cousins to marry. In fact many of America's greatest presidents & leaders married within their family. Such as Franklin Roosevelt to Eleanor Roosevelt who were cousins. Its not uncommon across the world for cousins to marry. In the American South this is known as "kissing cousins" I wish they kept Kovu as the son of Scar. BUT like you said Disney was afraid of controversy even though most people would probably not mind nor care.

  • @TehLB also they are lions it is common in animals for incest

  • This should have been in there. The bit about Scar taking Kovu in makes where Kovu came from make more sense. It makes it sound like he and Zira were from another pride originally, or outcasts, and Scar let them join so that Kovu would be his heir.

  • they should put that in there it would be interested xd

  • where did you get the cut scenes from?

  • read the describtion :)

  • They should have definetly kept this one.

  • @obamawalker

    this one, Nuka' s death, and zira dies.

  • It's pathetic how Disney kept having to emphasize that Kovu WASN'T Scar's son. Bowing down to silly soccer moms who wrap their kids in cotton wool.

  • Hey, could you blame them? Even now, half of the entire fandom still refuses to believe that Kovu isn't Scar's son. Such denial almost makes you wonder if they even saw the movie!

  • Yeah, I can blame them. See, Kovu was designed to be Scar's son. I mean, look at him, his very name means "Scar". But Disney HAD to bow down to the soccer moms who think they're wittle kiddie wids will be scarred for life if they realise that Kovu and Kiara and cousins once removed, so they completely bum-bugger the plot to satisfy the whims of idiots. Sure I can blame them.

  • He was ment to seem like scar, like a clone. but the fact he wasn't his son ment that he could be good. Dark fur resembles scars meaning he is an evil lion, not being scars son means hes different.

  • Freeze @ 0:44

    XD

  • That IS funny XD

  • @AnimalSam411 lol she's like RAAAAAAAA XD

  • @AnimalSam411 you could fit 2 watermelons in there!!!!! XD

  • Zira needs anger management and parenting help! :/

  • They probably didnt put this because they thought killing an innocent bug was too violent. LOL! If I was disney, I still would have put this!

  • Yeah! Oh wow, killing bugs is SO violent Disney! XD Like we haven't already seen the one bug be killed in MIB 1. And who likes bugs that much anyways?

    Disney should stop spazzing about things that haven't even happened yet.

  • omg towards the end zira sounded like a drama queen! lol

  • lol the end was so funny

  • LMFAO 0:43 XDDDDDDDDDDDDD

  • Pause at about :43/:44. Shoop Da Whoop. XD

  • IMA FIRIN MAH LAZAH!

  • great scene

  • Zira scares the crap outta me.

  • yea shes freaky a hell. I feel bad for kovu lol

    the should have put this scene in there!

  • I know, it's absolutely priceless!

  • Zira's facial expression at the end is priceless.

  • Kovu mentions in the movie Scar is not his father. Automatically makes no use for this scene to explain Kvu's non-related blood.

    But either way, this scene couldn't be possibly used due to age difference; when this happened Kiara had just been born, making Kovu older than her (a lot, actually)

  • this scene makes very good sense

  • They should have put this in the movie. That way some ppl woulden't think that Kovu and Kaira are blood related cousins. (WHICH THEY ARE NOT)

  • I'm a 100% positive that Scar wasn't Kovu's father.

  • Nice! These scenes should have been in the film!

  • Kovu is a Digger

  • I always assumed Kovu was Scar's son before this. I don't like this scene because for me the message of the film was something like "you can still be a good person even if you come from a bad background/bad parents" but with this scene they make it seem like they're saying "oh well, he's okay because he's not REALLY Scar's son therefore he can't REALLY be all that bad", it's a bit too black and white for my taste.

  • they said twice IN the movie that scar wasnt his father. nuka said it when he was whining that he wasnt the chosen one and kovu told simba when they were bonding at the scene of the fire.

  • Don't forget he also said to Kiara "Scar wasn't really my father but he was still a part of me." when they were stargazing

  • He's not Scar's son because that would be incest. Not because they were trying to excuse Kovu's blood or something.

    I think the point of the movie is that you make your own choices rather than being forced to follow an ideal simply because it feels right or because it's what you were taught or raised to do.

    And also that you can't tell your kids what to do, but as long as you teach them right from wrong they'll always come back to you.

  • this is a weird scene but it makes the fact that Scar isn't Kovu's real father evident.

  • i love how they stress that Scar isn't Kovu's father in this...cuz then that'd make him Simba's cousin, and an awkward marriage for Kovu and Kiara O.o

  • yeah that makes sense!!

  • Ohh, they should have kept it, since it says that he wasn't his father.

  • they said it in the movie too. twice.

  • they should have kept this part. its cute

  • after eading al the comments-im so confused. i dont know if they decided to put some information to who is kovus dad, or if they wanted the imaginations to go all wild- im guessing they wanted us to put together a story.

  • Scar can't be Kovu's father because that would make him Kiara's uncle, the only possible parents would be Zira + ? because of the relations with Vitani & Nuka.

  • lol zira looked funny at the end lololol

  • then who is kovu's father?

    and how are nuka and zira related?

    i know that nuka is kovu's uncle.

    so does that mean zira is kovu's brother?

  • NANNANA.

    Nuka is Kovu's big ( and jealous ) brother =O

    ZIRA IS KOVUS MOTHER. :P

    They're both related, and Scar? Scar is NOT his fater ^^ So kiara and kovu aren't bloodrelated in any way.

  • so, is nuka scars son.....or is he adopted like kovu is.

  • Presumbably. Nobody ever came in and said " Nuka's daddy is Scar " , but it's inferred. I think. Just assume it. Because it's probably make his jealousy more realistic ;P

  • well in the book that they made it said nuka and vitani are scars real son and daughter but kovu was adopted I can prove it, somehow