Pakistani group denies ties to Mumbai attacks - 25 Dec 08

[sunilf007]

these Pakis are basterd liers. May Allah fuck them so bad that Pakistan crumble like Somalia and these terror organizations ruin Pakistan.

[desizinab]

fuck alll Cunt Terrorists nothng else .. piece of Shit .. assholes teaching Terror to Kids .. They should be hanged Up side down ..

[ALANSARALHAQ]

A proxy war is bieng fought between india and pakistan to hurt Pakistan's relationship with CHINA so USA maintain s economic hegemony in eurasia. USA controls all othe major trade routes i.e. arabian gulf, afghanistan and caspian making noise over Darfur - Sudan (3rd largest oil reserve and major supplier to China). USA now focusses on the Indian Ocean to stop Chinese Influence through Pakistan and is using INDIA as a puppet and PAKISTAN as the stage.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

EURASIA is the most densely poopulated region in the world accounting for 75% of the population, richest in natural resource and skill/labour. EURASIAN Economy will dominate WORLD ECONOMY marking the end of WESTERN MONOPOLY and USA wants total hegemony away from CHINA, RUSSIA an INDIA is a strategic tool and PAKISTAN a platform to play the games

[ALANSARALHAQ]

India and Indians be wary of outside influence pulling INDIA into a srey cold war in "your" region against China, RUSSIA and Pakistan - they want INDIA to get into conflict it does not benefit INDIA sure there are shirt term gains but USA and ISRAEL/ZIONIST need another 100 years of economic superiority your a tool like IRAQ was once pitted against IRAN.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

For PAKISTAN and PAKISTANI dont get caught up in SHARIF?ZARDARI bullshyte get rid off them get a decisive government in - I prefer a matial LAW situation a secure government like ZIA UL HAQ and MUSHARAF who wil stand up to the OUTSIDERS causing trouble in the region namely USA and ISRAEL and also give INDIA A STRONG MESSAGE. REVITALISE ISI and give the mischief makers a tatse of "OUR" medicine

[ALANSARALHAQ]

CONCLUSION: Cut off logistics supply to AFGHAN, allign with CHINA and RUSSIA and IRAN. If INDIA is USA's exit strategy in AFGHANISTAN then INDIAN troops in AFGHANITN is a dclaration of war against PAK. PLEASE INDIA dont do this, you will suffer the same fate of the SOVIETS. LETS Keep a economically weak USA in AFGHAN. KEEP PAKISTAN SECURE dont let "THEM" to play their evil politics and games with PAKISTAN.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

...apologies citing Musharraf was not so good becuased he caved into outside hegemony...

But atleast he was tough on India where needed

[tigerofpunjab]

@ALANSARALHAQ bro why do you hate us so much u sound a intelligent mani agree on ur exit point all countries get money weapons etc off others u lot get army funding off usa money off saudi its how the world works, im sure muhammed pbuh wouldnt of had a hate 4 humanity and others of different faiths hav u never met a good person or nurse/dr who is a non pak and non muslim and thought they were decent if u are a pakistani then at 1 point in ur life a generation of ur family were hindu u hate them

[ALANSARALHAQ]

lol! - Ask your self why India has ahd an aggressive foreign policy since indpendent, ask your slef why is their a pro hindu constitution in India. Ask yourself why India is at "odds" with not just Pakistan but every neighbour - and ask yourself if you are hindu - why do you hate "islam" so much and purposedly misrepresent my identity and thn expect me not to hate you.

[ALANSARALHAQ]

why I hate India? as a Kashmiri.. for the sisters your Hindu Army rapes, for the brothers hat have gone misisng and for 62 yrs of Occupation. I have evry reason to hate India, India's continued meddling, aggression.. in pursuit of a mythological Akhand Bharat - re wriitng of Indian Hisory and defamation of Islam. Your at odds with not just Pakistan but have a date with destiny - where India is a rosk from splitting apart

[girllondon9]

we hindus will kill and destroy you what ever you say assholes,.....go to your pig face god allah and beg for some life,....even tough we will not spare you.hahahaha

[HindustanMurdabaad]

shiva the gay barstard,

ganesha the fat pig fucked parvati and then sita sucked shivas dick

raam drinking cow piss

GAY Hind

[ALANSARALHAQ]

LOL look how hindus converse and they call the selves a people that are capable of leading ALL of humanity..think again. It is this very illogic and self glorification and pompous nonsense of the HIndu which is so vident on iinternet discussion boards is testimony of them.

[UdayDelhi]

Question:How come that the journalist didnt bother to visit Kasab's village or training camps in POK but thought that showing welfare activities of a terror outfit was more important?

Answer: He is first a MULLA, then a PORKI and then a Journalist-:)

[gurushack]

,as if the terrorists training there wuld still be present when the documentary wuld be made,,,guess what? finally hafeez  and his jaamat ul dawwa is finally banned,,lolz,,what irony.

[simsonsany]

like i believe the guy preparing the documentary ..

[MyEyeOnWorld]

Kasab is owned by Pak, finally!

It would be interesting to see how Pakis try to spin the investigation further and became more of a laughing stock.

Pakis, eggs are all over your face, for lying, all along. Shame. Shame.

[suryavajra]

The problem I have with this Al Jazeera news story is that it said the Indian government wanted to attack this compound in Pakistan and this is simply not accurate. I just got back from a trip to India and from all of the newspapers I've read and the Indian news shows I watched, nobody said anything about a strike into Pakistan by Indian military.

I think that perhaps Al Jazeera is being a little sensalitionalist here...What do you guys think??

[koldergut]

o common, sensationalist? al jazeera is the media weapon of alqaeda and other terror outfits.

[suryavajra]

I don't know if I'd go that far, but Al Qaeda and other terror outfits do use Al Jazeera as an outlet for their videotapes...

But these statements by Al Jazeera that India was pushing for war was off base, when you consider the fact that EVERY news network in India at the same time, mentioned nothing about a military strike into Pakistan.

[kingpinontube]

The problem with Islam is we Muslims refuse to see the world.. Again terrorists are not Islamic they are bloody faggots serving the fucking CIA bred mullah.. I as a muslim serve the Allah and not some mother fucker with a stinking beard and dirty thoughts

[canzt1]

Look at the facts below:

1. UN banned Pakistan's Organizations after the Mumbai attacks.

2. Madeleine Albright, former Secretary State of US called Pakistan an International Migraine

3. President Elect- Obama said in an interview Pakistan is buying weapons from aid money and using them against India.

4. Pakistan father of nuclear technology was caught selling nuclear secrets to N.Korea, Libya etc.

This is the ground reality. For how long will Pak be in a state of denial?

[korannb]

I'm Indan ... and fuck all Pakistanis !! fuck em all. War should be raised with these pigs !! causing unrest in India

[UdayDelhi]

bloody mullas. Their end is near.

[Resistance4Islam]

salaam aleikum. can someone please tell "suryavajra: not to assume what i insinuated! i don't insinuate. at my age, i am very clear about my position. since my original post was in response to someone else mentioning israel, it was then fair game. don't deny that the allies of israel, any of them, are the enemies of islam.

[suryavajra]

Yes, someone DO tell me where I've misunderstood this gentleman, and I will stand corrected.

You say that "Don't deny that the allies of Israelnayn of them are the enemies of Islam"..Can you please elaborate on this??

Because Jordan and some of the other Arab countries have been cultivating ties with Israel for years. Does that make them anti-Islamic??

[Resistance4Islam]

"enemies of Islam" = specifically those to which we were discussing within the context of your initial thought. I'm not the master of the saying, "your enemy's friend is your enemy." In the Mumbai situation, Israel an the US should have no say. This is an Indian situation for them to resolve. Pakistan, the US, India, the UK = all should leave India alone. Further, countries that have ties w/ Israel (cultivating new ones or rekindling old ones) have RARELY been known to favor Islam.

[kingpinontube]

What if the handwork of this leads to a different country say Pakistan then what? Sadly today terrorism is a world problem and requires a collective WORLD effort. Or else it is not possible to eliminate this..! As far as ties with Israel are concerned how can ties with Israel be considered a anti-islam Saudi has ties with them are they anti islamic.

[Resistance4Islam]

Most of my people don't recognize the puppet Saudi regime. They're Islamic in name only. There's nothing Muslim about them. We have nothing to do w/ them.

[kingpinontube]

I would rather see us associated with Saudi than terrorists..! Saudi's for me are a lot more islamic than the terrorists..!

[gurushack]

do u consider shias fighting the sunnies in iraq as enemies of islam,what about pakistan;s economy which is getting billions of dollars from america?

[ALANSARALHAQ]

What like hindu radicals attacking minorities in INDIA and getting billions of dollars of support and equipment from USA and ISRAEL. Sorry what was your point if you have one. INDIAN Bhai, You dont even know you are being PLAYED in a very clever game by he same people who helped create PAKISTAN i.e. non mulsim forces outside of INDIA *hint hint* play your cards wrong ad INDIA siezes being an economic power or segemnts into provinces or gets swamped in AFGHANISTAN.

[kingpinontube]

If Israel is anti Islam please go fuck around with them.. Leave the rest of the world alone..

[Resistance4Islam]

I'm always amazed at the hatred of people who attack a different religion from their own, especially when I don't speak w/ such hatred.

[AYEMAQ]

If anyone killed a person not in retaliation for murder or to spread mischief in the land, it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind. And (likewise) if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole of mankind"

(Surah Al-Maaida 5:32).

now this is quran and this is what Allah teaches .

but if an angry muslim does something bad well that's 2 bad.

but is it realy islam?

4 that we only need 2 open quran and read it and read extra careful those ayas that they misquote .thanks

[suryavajra]

AYEMAQ, not only that, but I think that understanding of the Koran's passages can also be gained through the Hadith and through the commentaries of various well-accepted scholars and theologians.

[AYEMAQ]

suryvajra

yes that is true

u could find it in TAFSIR IBN KATHIR

u could google it and find it

thats what i am reading .

i well gave u the link for that

[suryavajra]

Thanks, my friend, I'll be sure to check it out!!!

[0Aking0]

Hindu Terrorist of India responsible for attacks!

[suryavajra]

Prove it, Aking.

[VikramRao751]

Maybe its a case of guilty by association, but something needs to be done. India will react, and I wouldnt want to be around to find out when.

[Resistance4Islam]

suryavajra: wake up! i never said this is an israeli conspiracy. i said the US has to decide who's side it's on: israel or pakistan b/c pakistan is poised to defend itself so alliances must be determined ahead of time. the US can't continue in this conflict [the recent one] as a friend to pakistan, israel and india.this is not about israel it's about the girl who posted before me blaming everything on us and this is not an (us) blame.

[suryavajra]

Resistance, after having two cups of Starbucks brew, I am!! I nevcer said those are your exact words, but that was what you were insinuating...Israel has very little influence in this conflict. This is a problem that involves everyone in the South Asia region and the US which has a sizable deployment in Afghanistan.

Why bring up Israel at all?? They are more worried at what's going on in GAza right now. And by the way, INC and Left-front parties in India has condmened the attack on Gaza

[suryavajra]

Yet you insinuate also thatt Israel and India are tied at the hip...

They may be allies, that is true, but they have differences in opinion...

I think the primary American interest is to not see this region BLOW UP in an ORGY of VIOLENCE and WAR. As such they are trying to cultivate cordial ties with all of the state actors in this region and trying to make sure everyone keeps a cool head. So they DONOT neet to choose right now.

[sarasalami]

AN I suppose you know best , dont you? I should believe what pakistani papers and their false propoganda comes out with? It is you who is talking NONSENSE. I pity you anyway, using your energies on so much false information circulated by your media. WHy would India bother with a small country like Pakistan anyway with all its inner conflicts? Its is perfect for Pakistan to use India as an excuse to keep its own people together. Otherwise Pakistan could turn into a new Somalia.

[Resistance4Islam]

As'salaam aleikum. Note: this is surely a problem for Pakistan b/c they're being drawn into this conflict, waged by Israel and her friends. Maybe you don't see it as a problem for you but it is for our brothers & sisters in Pakistan. It's also a problem for those who travel by plane. This is trickling down to further censor us wherever we go. So, this is problem for the entire ummat. The U.S. will need to decide who it's supporting b/c it claims to be friends of Israel, India, and Pakistan! ???

[suryavajra]

Resistance, how is this an Israeli conspiracy?? Where's the evidence?? Is there anything that is not some Zionist plot, my friend?? LOL!

[sarasalami]

With that attitude of belligerence,Pakistan will never admit its role in the attacks even if the evidence is presented to them. Both India and the US have evidence to the effect. What makes Pakistan so innocent and blame free? Its the loud protests of the guilty.

[sarasalami]

The Indian government has said it has evidence which supports their claim. But Al Jazeera goes and makes this bogus video showing that Jamat ul is just a peaceful organisation, running charity hospital and schools. Obviously, they will have a smoke screen, if they are into terrorist activities. I doubt the credibility of this news channel. Al Jazeera has only one agenda, defend muslims, no matter what they do. They are certainly not a news channel I will rely on in future.

[soni204]

if india has anykind of evidence then why they are not sharing it with internation spy agencies, why they are not showing this to every one infact they are covering up their faliure and blaming pakistan and its people like they always do but now world know that there are many elements inside india who are being supressed by indian army, which is the cause of the attacks like this.

[muzz20]

BUT Y U BLAM MUSLIMS ALL THE TIME?

[Fakeer2007]

you does not know anything dear. your just reading the artical from the news paper N giving ur comment.

anyway, hope you know that the last bombing in Samjhota train was did by hindu(indians)and Indian colonel admits that.

where mostly pakistani were killed.

for this also they were blaming Pak but what happen at the end????

so pls do some research before you make NON SENSE comment.

[kingpinontube]

Fakeer it is not the pakistani people that are responsible for the mumbai attacks it is the terrorists in pakistan.. Similarly it is not the Indian(hindu) as u said who is responsible for the samjuatha express bombings it is the Indian hindu terrorists who are now sitting in a stinking Jail. All the world wants Pakistan to do is act against these so called Islamic god men.. They are disgrace to pak and more importantly to ISLAM

[pebruary]

The evidence points to the terrorism in India being the work of people within the security services of India and its allies Israel, the USA and so on. Most extremist groups are run by the security services; and, reportedly, the CIA and their friends have people within the security services of most countries. The Iraq-Iran war was reportedly the work of the CIA; wars make money for the military-industrial complex.

[BengalG3]

look my pakistani friend we must promote indo-paki friendship. if the worlds ignorant armys and politicians choice to fight, let them but dont let them influence our words.

[suryavajra]

Hello my friend. I think now that we have learned that Indo-Pakistani friendship cannot come with flowery words and promises. Instead it must be built from strong, bilateral, commonsense polices towards mutual problems that concern both nations...atleast that is my opinion...

[panditbuwa]

The guy interviewed says that "Hindus" demonstrated against the ban. Doesn't the world know that in a bankrupt country like Pakistan, any citizen can be given a few bucks and be asked to come on street to protest anything.

[antialjazeera]

am i blocked...

[antialjazeera]

oh okey i am not

[ZionismISNEWNazism]

this Mohammed Ajmal Amir Qasab begged to be saved when he was shot he was the leader and all others died he has survived there is something dodgy here no qasab records in any farid kot villages

[ugha323a]

ZionismSNEWNazism:

WRONG name, it SHOULD be: BOLSHEVIKS are the KILLERS.

[ZionismISNEWNazism]

ugha323a u are a joke everytime you comment you disgrace yourself go get an education

[ugha323a]

iZlam is MURDER. I was there in NY on 9-11. ALL NYERS know EXACTLY WHO did it and WHY.

[ZionismISNEWNazism]

there you again disgracing yourself how can you be so sure who did it hmmmmmmm you sound really dodgy

[muzz20]

indian gov don't want peace in south asia. IDIOTS

[suryavajra]

Why would they not want peace??? Please xplai your reasoning. Because every moderate in this region, Pakistani, Indian, and Afghan wants a respite from the violence.

[roguenation]

Mohammed Ajmal Amir Qasab, may Allah protect and save him.

[bakwas]

How sutpid ur prayers can get. He is an open killer caught red handed. Even as per islam he deserves more than death sentence.

[zizoubilly]

Aren't the Indian navy, coastal guards and the cops meant to STAY AWAKE?!

[amsoho75gr]

aljazeera coming hide the ak's

[SaracenArrow]

12-We are told that they came from Pakistan by sea? Indian military in

boards sea were sleeping?? We are told they came by speed boats?

is it possible to travel so long on such boat?

hopefully intelligent people realise theres a conspiracy going on.

[suryavajra]

You have a theory SaracenArrow??

[SaracenArrow]

suryavajra its common sense.

[suryavajra]

Saracen, spell it out...

[SaracenArrow]

see a dictionary

[suryavajra]

Bo need to take a that snooty tone with me Saracen. I was genuinely interested to see your conclusion, but me thinks that you are using inductive reasoning ie You already shifted blame to the Hindus, and you are using bits of evidence to support your preconcieved notion, which in turn leads to circular logic...

[SaracenArrow]

suryavajra i dont blame anyone and i have nothing against hindus but personally i believe this attack cant have been jihadi handiwork.its very unlikely.just my opinion.

[suryavajra]

ok...saracen...fair enough, my friend. You bring up some interesting bits of evidence nevertheless....

so if not jehadi..is it RSS??

[SaracenArrow]

10-Media was widely reporting that there were IDs of terrorists

recovered which shows Malaysian and Mauritious IDs however such

references disappeared once Modi's arrival!

11-The timing of Mumbai terror is well planned, just before state

elections! (so who will take beneficent ? lashkar-e-taiba or BJP?)

[SaracenArrow]

7-Only one terrorist caught lively (?), all others killed as in

every encounter in recent past?

8-Mumbai terrorist are very clear about their targets, they are well

experienced their hide abouts in Taj and other places?

9-Prime Minister, Sonia & LK Advani visits Mumbai, but no clues or no

claims about ISI or Pakistan.. However No1 terrorist, Gujarat CM Modi

hurry-up to Mumbai and declares that Pakistan is behind the attack

without any doubt!

[SaracenArrow]

3-And the Terrorists attackers did nothing specifically for western,

even Israelis, it was sure if they were Jehadists!

4-Beer drinking terrorists; Jehadi are non-alcoholic,

however Mumbai Terrorists goes to the cafe and drinks beer before they

start firing??

5-Mumbai terrorists (as shown by media) had close similarities with

RSS cadres: Mumbai terrorist wearing an yellow band on his right hand

as RSS cadres wears normally (see pictures).

[SaracenArrow]

this is from an email some reasons why these cant be a jehadi group:

1-Unlike other terrorists, Terrorists in Mumbai have not demanded

anything? They don't demand release of their co-prisoners nor demanded

money... why?? what was their target then?

2-Unlike other islamic Jehadis with beard and turbans, why Mumbai

terrorists came with strange look - they wore jeans and T-shirts;

clean-shaved and no turbans nor any sign of muslims terrorists we

normally watch on media?

[rgulx2]

A thief will never say he is a thief, a drunk will never admit to be drunk... with 160 people killed by Pakis, you think those murderers will accept a hand in the act? BTW, Hamas also runs a school, a hospital and social service. That does not say they are innocent. Lookup BBC for what happened at the same place when they spoke to a Jamat student about Jihad.

[Captainmarkjohnson]

I never known a paki tell the truth.

[davidinfo13]

India needs to calm down

[suryavajra]

Actually they are calm, David...The PM himself came out and said nobody in India is contemplating war. Tell that to Zardari who's talking about shedding every last drop of his blood against an imaginary attack that may never come...If only he was that resolute against the Taliban...

[AYEMAQ]

man now days whatever happens in the world

just blame the damn thing on muslims

what was that  THE USUAL SUSPECT

lolz we muslims are the that now days

but a true believer well never care what these ppl think of him

remember they thought the prophet Mohammad s.a.w was a magician and lots of things but look the example brothers and sisters .

and about their blames lolz who cares i dont .

[ratonnewmex]

the Muslim faith is completely Satanic...believers have NO LIGHT in their faces, their eyes!!!!!!!!

[AYEMAQ]

ratonnewmex

plz tell me that u did read the quran and u made up ur mind about the islam.

u didnt just watch ur foxnews and made up ur mind or u didnt just watched couple hate videos and u made up ur mind plz tell me why would u think that

[ratonnewmex]

i don't agree with the Quran. I read the Holy Bible because it was written by the Disciples of the Son of God...Jesus was a Healer, a Comforter, a Teacher, and Forgiver....He was Perfection incarnate. I will never EVER believe in just a PROPHET. I believe in the Son of God,,,He came to us and will come again to judge the living and the dead. This sick country, the U.S. is experiencing judgement as we speak.

[AYEMAQ]

oh if u read ur bible properly sure Jesus( pbh) said and talked about the prophet Mohammad s.a.w

and u didnt read the quran yet u bash

that is just hate .

but any ways now u say u well never believe the prophet ok but have u ever think about it.

what if the quran is write ?

what if when God asks why u didnt read the quran what would be ur answer

and as muslims we just have 2 gave the msg u read it u dont read it that is up 2 u .

[ugha323a]

Jesus NEVER EVER talked about the Mohammed EVER.

The qu'ran is WRONG, it is a book of MURDER.

Jesus WARNED of FALSE Prophets- like MOHAMMED

[suryavajra]

Why are we bringing religion into this. I'm a Hindu, I have nothing against Muslims as some of my very good friends happen to be devout Muslims. I personally will not say anything to bash anyone's religion.

[AYEMAQ]

dear suryavajra

i wasnt talking 2 u sir

i was talking 2 some one who start bashing islam .

so i was clearly explaining that 2 her or him

it wasnt about you and i was simply explaining 2 her or him that b4 u read the quran dont bash and if u have read the quran ok then u can ask questions about it.

hope i have cleared the air suryavajra .

thank you

[suryavajra]

No worries Ayemaq. I wanted to clear the air myself before geting into this controversial subject. Passions are running high at the moment...

i can't say that i have read the Quaran as of yet...i read part of it...

[AYEMAQ]

surayvajra

thank you

its good 2 read the quran for muslims non muslims

in order 2 just know who is really following the teachings of quran and who is not .

some one does not follow the teaching of quran and those something horrible and media blames it on islam .

lolz THE USUAL SUSPECT lolz

but if some one has the knowledge of quran we can see clearly that all these innocent killings are against the teaching of quran .

but if only read it 2 know it.

[suryavajra]

Ayemaq, my friend, I think we're on the same page here!!

I've met many God-fearing Muslims who are also some of the most non-violent people I know.

I think the terrorists take your religion and create an interpretation that they then use as their ideology and call it "Islam".

The Muslim Council of India has not only condemned the attacks of Mumbai by these terrorists but they have forbidden any Islamic burials for these terrorists anywhere in this country.

[kronikwarrier]

How convienient, "just as we were about to leave, the spokeperson of Jamat ud Dawa calls and agrees to talk to us". Fucking Horseshit. The spokesperson was seen on BBC glorifying the terrorist acts and demanding the Pakistani govt to protect the terrorist as to quote the "spokesperson" "they are all citizens of Pakistan". Fucking rat cunts Pakis are born out of maggot mating in human shit and soon they will all be wiped of. The countdown to disintegration of Pakistan has started. Fucking Pakis

[GhostVirusx90]

I recon it was Mossad stirring shit up again.