The black folks on the video should be ashamed of themselves. It wasn't "Great Society", that got you where you are! You got yourself to where you are. Great Society has made things worse for many people because the plan wasn't long term nor good in the first place.
Great Society and many other government implementations are not about the results. They are about the agenda of getting many powerful interests paid billions and billions more.
Like if you were to cut all these implementations made back then, Wall Street would dive faster and further than any other time on record. Hundreds of industries would crash and create a ripple effect, affecting almost every corner of industrialization here in America.
If it wasn't for the war on poverty parts of America would look like the old days of Ethiopa and people would be on tv asking you to adopt a child. If it wasn't for medicare this world would be a mess. Sickness...death...pain..misery...all because of no health care. No medicaid? Same thing? The Fair Labeling act made it that food makers put the ingredients of food on their labels. Look how often we use this. Those are just a few things we use and the many things the republicans voted against.
The Great Society planted the seeds for America's destruction. Since its passage the poverty level has skyrocketed, single parent households increased, and the black community has largly become dependant. With the intention of sacraficing liberty for equality and the rights of the individual for the rights of the collective, Great Scociety programs such as Medicare, food stamps and welfare, has placed this nation in trillions of dollars of debt to the effect of making us an Ungreat Society.
Should say "In horror of LBJ's 100th".....he scared the crap out of me as an 8 year old watchin mom's t.v....somehow I knew he was an evil potentate even at that age.!!
@BranIL28 The United States exists as a mix of socialism and democracy. Communism will be in full force when the elite take over complete control
of Washington. Representative government will wither and die. Corporate wealth
runs the country now to a great degree. Corruption is rampant now and greed is pandered to openly by politicians in favor of Wal-Mart, pharmaceutical companies,big oil, Health care giants and of course the biggest leeches of all
@stevenv1992 Yes. This is true of the general population, Nam ,Nam,Nam and LBJ knew the war would leave a bad legacy for him. But....the most liberal agenda ever is not forgotten by liberals. Particularly not Obama. A pres. who has passed the biggest liberal social reforms since LBJ cannot be unaware of what happened in D.C. during that time. Obama's preidency is possible because
of sixties legislation.It was a watershed administration for blacks and the country.
The Great Society accomplished some good things like Medicare, Aid to Education, Head Start & a few other things. But if its goal was wipe out Poverty which I believed it was then so far it has failed because Poverty is still a big issue in America today.
The Great Society along with the New Deal created a "Culture of Dependency" when it should've Empowered poor people to lift themselves out of Poverty with Education, Job Training & Job Placement so they wouldn't be dependent on Tax Payers.
@FrsBigeasy The greatest reduction of any poverty rate happened in LBJ's administration from 23% to 12%. It is fiction to believe otherwise. Third world conditions would exist here if not for entitlement programs, you are deluded
into thinking otherwise by media propaganda as are so many others.
3rd World Conditions do exist in America, ever been to Appalachia or the Mississippi Delta to use as examples? Can you show me those Regions are much better off today then they were 45 years ago? The "War on Poverty" is still an issue in America 45 years later.
America is a Great Society except for 45M americans who live in Poverty. The "War on Poverty" has been the 2nd longest declared war in American History behind the Cold War.
@FrsBigeasy Of course they are, Duh, can you imagine how much worse it would be for children at the bottom without public assistance, paticularly right now? Detroit inner city is in the same shape. Crime would be rampant,hunger, chaos, the rich have gotten richer- wealth disparities are much worse than in the sixties. Hve you no vision or hae you forgotten the poor in the wealthiest nation on earth? Brainwashed people like you are what is wrong with this country.
Another person on YouTube not capable of having a Civil Dialogue.
The goal of the Great Society was to win the "War on Poverty. 45 years later were still fighting this War and Poverty is still a major issue in America. So in that sense the Great Society has failed or hasn't accomplished its mission.
The New Deal along with the Great Society created a "Culture of Dependence" on Public Assistance. When it instead of should've created a Culture of Empowerment for poor people.
@FrsBigeasy It depends on your perspective as to what success. There is a culture of bigotry that creates an under class. LBJ's great Society has been a huge sucess.
If you think I am being uncivil now just give me a chance. You are speaking fantasy such a place does not exist. It may never. You live in an alternate world wherin fantasy is a living breathing thing. There are many oppressed people
here and for nothing they have done ,it is a circumstance of birth.You cannot seem to understand.
The "War on Poverty", what does that mean the LBJ declared War to wipe out Poverty. You declare War on something or against someone to win not to lose. 45 years later were still fighting the "War on Poverty". Thats your first clue that we haven't won the "War on Poverty" yet. So to this date it at best has been a mission unaccomplished. Thats not success. You want to win the "War on Poverty" you Empower poor people out of Poverty.
@FrsBigeasy To the contrary in particular medicare is a huge success.
Ask the bottom tier whether or not it was a success, there will be your answer. In particular because you say not it is so.
One cannot wipe out poverty any more than disease or war but it alleviated
much...poverty and misery and suffering. Wars are never won , you are indeed one misguided individual. I feel very sorry for you. You look for suffering people
and then condone it. May God have mercy on you.....
I already mentioned that Medicare which was part of the Great Society has been successful needs to be reformed but that different. So I don't know who your trying to convince there.
"War on Poverty" again 45M americans 1/6 live in Poverty how you call that a success is beyond me and I think thats based in Ideology not fact. Mission Unaccomplished at best
Your insults only amuse me so I appreciate the laughs, keep up the good work your one hell of a comedian.
@FrsBigeasy What you mentioned does not matter and I am not trying to convince you or anyone on here. These people are also without medical ins. but soon not so. This huge part of poverty will be alleviated. Things are much better for G.S. programs now, particularly the community mental health services. Children would be hungry etc...Fed student loans, truth in lending, clean air and water,civil rights, voting rights, These are only a very tiny fraction of G.S.
Sure the "War on Poverty" was declared 45 years ago and now there 45M americans living in Poverty today. But hey that doesn't matter because you say so. By the way that 1M poor people per year something to think about.
Children are hungry something the Agriculture DEPT is looking at. You have your history mixed up, the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts were passed before the Great Society. Or maybe your just speaking up in favor of the Johnson Administration in general.
@FrsBigeasy These pieces of legislation were all a part of the great society programs. Looking for loopholes, desperation? Over one thousand pieces of legislation were passed into law during that time, to help.. MLK and the marches forced civil rights to the front burner. LBJ wanted to be the best pres. of them all. The history channel, in a program aired not long ago rated him in the
top five. Wash,. Lincoln, T.R. FDR and LBJ. Johnson came from poverty
Poverty in America was 19% in America when the "War on Poverty" was declared in 1965. Today officially its 15% 45M people but its probably closer to 17% 50M people or 1/6. Most people who would look at that issue objectively wouldn't say drop of 2% points with all of those billions spent is Progress. That would be called failure or Mission Unaccomplished.
You want to debate LBJ Legacy find, but don't call everything Great Society.
@FrsBigeasy Poverty would be at 25 % without LBJ. It is all great society.With the exception of the FDR legacy programs. LJB carried on the New Deal. Which was a continuation of the Square Deal started by TR- FDR's hero and cousin- it all emanates from TR. The Trust Buster , another hero of the commoner. I believe you do not know any of this. Corporate influence was
even worse than it is now back in T.Rs' s day. In ruins- standard oil, railroads,
"Poverty would be at 25% today without LBJ", we'll never know that will we thats called an estimation. We do know it was 19% in 1965 and 17% today. Unless you have an Ideological "Big Government" view of solving problems which by the way created the "Culture of Dependency" then its hard to call a 2% point drop in Poverty over 45 years successful. Especially considering all of the money we've spent.
Facts are stubborn you shouldn't let them get in the way of a good debate.
Where you get the 23-13 figure, LBJ was only President for about three years after the Great Society was implemented. Plus the Economy started slowing down in the Late 60's.
In the 1990's the Clinton Administration had a different approach to fighting Poverty because they new "Culture of Dependency" wasn't working. Generations after generations of people were growing up in Poverty.
They decided to take a different approach by Empowering poor people to get themselves out of Poverty through Education and Job Training, Welfare to Work.
The results were Poverty fell to 13% because poor people were getting Educated and going to work perhaps the 1st time
@FrsBigeasy The effect was the result of corruption of the govt. by wall street.
Now banks show profits by not keeping toxic mortgages on their balance sheets, a new law. So TO give themselves(CEO's ,exec.) bonuses. You are extremely naive, extermely naive. Uninformed people like you are what is ruining this country. 97% of wealth is owned by three percent of the pop. here and it is getting worse,don't keep your head in the sand. Bush tax cuts accelerated this process.Get informed, wake up.
You said that Poverty fell during the Clinton Administration because of the Economic Boom of the 90's. I've heard that argument so many times and I wasn't impressed the first time I heard it and less impressed by it now. Because its been repeated and proven wrong.
The simple counter to the Economic Boom argument is that Economic Growth means nothing to poor people if they don't have the Skills and Education they need to get a good job. Which is why Welfare to Work is so important.
@FrsBigeasy Boom times means a low unempl rate. Whomever wanted to work would work, it was a false though economy of course. Held aloft by the real estate bubble all the soon to be- toxic mortgages etc, insider trading ie. selling bad dervatives,, etc,,etc. I believe you don't know anything of which I speak.
The mothers of head starters would learn how to read taking their children to this program, "For the first time". Wall street has run amock beginning with the reagan era via the S.E.C.
Boom times mean nothing if you don't have an Education and the Skills needed to get a good job. Which is why Welfare to Work is so important. Otherwise your working at a Fast Food joint or a Grocery Store or in Retail lucky if your working there Full Time making 7-8$ an hour.
But if you Empower poor people and give themselves an opportunity at getting an Education and Job Training and Job Placement, then they can get themselves out of Poverty with a good job.
@FrsBigeasy Thank you yes I am known as a funny person. However I will have to word this in a way such as that you will be able to understand, I guess. Poverty was much worse before,discrimination, much worse, health care much worse, dishonesty by finance much worse. Don't you understand this? This is a country of great wealth in comparison what does it say if we don't care for its' most defenseless citizens? It would be immoral, some of us cannot be successes
I'll just lay it out for you and just part of this sinks in I'l consider it a success.
The New Deal and Great Society have created generations of poor people. Why because the Federal Government had this idea that if you give poor people a check then Poverty would go away on its own or that were giving them checks so now we don't have to worry about them now.
So parents raise their kids in Poverty and they go to bad schools or drop out and have kids, the same Cycle of Poverty
@FrsBigeasy You think that a govt. program created poverty ? That a preposterous premise. The poverty which black people arose from was unspeakable. Poverty exists everywhere and far worse than here. Believe this or not this poverty was created by circumstance and not legislation. Old age before medicare and S.Sec. meant destitution and bad health with no health care.
What are we if we cannot care for the most defenseless of our citizens. Children,
When Bill Clinton became President he understood that the way the FEDS were fighting Poverty wasn't working. Poverty was still a big deal when he became President in 1993 as it is now.
Bill Clinton's vision was an "Opportunity Society" where they would Empower poor people to get themselves the Education, Skills and Job Training that they need to lift themselves out of Poverty and break the Cycle Of Poverty and no longer be dependent on Public Assistance for their daily survival.
@FrsBigeasy Great solution as in job corps, fed student loans, head start, civil rights act, affirmative action etc. Bill Clinton was not in the same league
as LBJ as a professional politician.Or even close, he landed in a time of prosperity
and was a shrewd operator yes. LBJ's political genius changed the country
within in five years- for the people at the bottom rung of society.
@huckstered You have no idea of what you are talking about. You "claim" others give no facts to back up their points. We you give no proof or make cite any historical sources. You are a joke and need to read some real history, not that slanted crap you learned from your progressive liberal teachers. You have nothing but a skull full of mush!
@ardenspanzers What would you like to know? What facts ? You just spout nonsense with no intellectual premise at all, c'mon counter with something,
at least something. If you want a transfer of knowledge just ask. I took business admin. in college, all conservative instruction. All info in this video can be comprehended by someone with a little knowledge of politics, can't you ?
I will list what you want from memory but not everything of course, over
@FrsBigeasy The War on Poverty failed because it didn't completely eradicate poverty but Johnson's programs have been the most successful and have done the best job and the closest we have gotten to an all time low and eliminating poverty. Long live this man.
I love Lyndon Johnson. So sad we can't have such fierce populist liberalism like that these days... I desperately hope Obama takes a couple of pages from the Lyndon Johnson playbook to push his domestic agenda in the months ahead. It's the only way he'll avoid disastrous midterm losses, it's the only way he'll get reelected with a real mandate and it's the only way he'll make a true mark on american history and secure his place alongside LBJ and FDR. I'm still hopeful :)
As history goes on...Johnson will raise in terms of one our most effective presidents in American history! He cared for the people...Johnson created the conditions for the longest economic upturns in our history. Plus he worked for the working people as well as those crooks in Wall Street. He kept them in line...We need a Lyndon Johnson... History will judge him well!
We need a president who is not obsessed with being "nice" and reaching out to a GOP that wants no part of bi-partisanship. We need a leader who can get things done domestically like LBJ did....Obama...what a disappointment.
@huckstered You are exactly right for a number of reasons, I believe,
he had a handle on the levers of power like few ever had, it is one of the great stories of history. Crooked, honest, deplorable, amazing , poorly educated &
If we want a public option we need to make it known.. we need to get more involved. For ways in which you can do this please visit the comment section of my profile. Sign the petitions and make the phone calls... become more active. You will find several resources there to help you get started. Thanks.
LBJ did much more than "the best he could". Undeerrated ? That is an unerstatement. He was the most efffective president in the history of the U.S. Passing legislation no one else
I do know a lot about LBJ he is the 4th best President we had.What you dont know is JFK set a lot of stuff up to the Johnson Administration.Civil Rights was Kennedy.War on Poverty was Kennedy.(he gave a speech. Kennedy stopped WWIII he manged the best he could over Eisenhowers Mistakes at the Bay of Pigs.I do research things before posting mind you.Kennedy set the stepping stones for Johnson.
of the issues on Truman's agenda. Civil rights legislation was intercepted by the south before it could reach the floor in the fities Anti lynching etc..One was even passed in Federal hiring during Trumans time. . Johnson introduced the war on poverty to a joint session of congress. JFK never could have
enacted the laws LBJ did. He did not have the influence in either house (Sam Rayburn).
JFK did not have the influence, acquirred over a thirty year career, that LBJ did. He was elected after a soft peddle to the u.s. over the airwaves of T.V.
The bay of pigs was a circumstance
of the cold war, nothing more. ANYONE would have had to react. Did it T.G.Society compound JFK's principles. Yes. But many others had the same concern for the dispossessed, FDR did , LBJ's mentor. Harry truman was the first medicare recipient, this was his dream too.
Trading, buying and selling politics,LBJ was out to do good..
A pragmatist or an idealist ,
A lifetime of conservative southern senator bloc voting only concealed what his true plan was. but he was a liberal in the style of the Roosvelt's underneath it all, waiting for the day......................... One of the great stories of history. This tale of history reaches beyond the U.S. It is no wonder he fought
for south Viet Nam, he believed in the good of democracy for all peoples.
In LBJ's first year in office, he accomplished more than many presidents did in their entire administration. Vietnam was his nemesis, and hindered his ability to focus upon domestic issues from 1966 onward. A graceful exit from Vietnam during his Presidency would have had LBJ on a coin by now.
Ronald Reagan (or Nixon depending on your point of view) fought a war on drugs and drugs won.
The War on Poverty did not fail, it was no longer funded by a congress disenchanted by urban riots. Lawmakers essentially said, via the vote, that if you riot, you get no more federal aid. Elements of the war on poverty and the great society remain a vital part of American life from clean rivers (remember how polluted the great lakes were in the 60s?) to gaurunteed student loans. LBJs enduring impact.
i'm so sick of the reagan myth that the great society somehow failed. poverty rates fell from 22.2% to 12.6% between 1963 and 1970. poverty rates among african americans fell from 55% to 27%. poverty rates for the elderly dropped by 67%. underprivileged kids can go to college. the civil rights and voting rights acts were monumental successes. anyone who says the great society was a failure is distorting history and defiling the greatest president in us history.
He was rated as one of the top five pres. of all time on a history channel documentary some while back. He is finally getting his just due. He was one of the top three I think. He just was the last soldier in the anti-communist cold war
He had many times the political acumen of Truman. Not always ethical but always in control. Harry was ethical
but Johnson used the means to justify the end. It was the most remarkable political period of history in the U.S.
wherein power was shifted toward the
people. Underneath all of the manuevering behind the scenes was a plan to help everyone. Something only LBJ could have done with such an accumulation of power , it was the best thing to happen to the U.S. ever.
Yeah, Harry S. Truman was quite underrated as well, even though he had to use common sense into making his decisions, ie. Atomic Bomb usage. LBJ was also a great president just cause he carried out JFKs dreams through death...except for Vietnam, that is.
all would know. THis is the way republicans cover it up. Using Nam as a smoke screen. Have you noticed how many times LBJ's legacy has been invoked since Obama. Finally.
The funny thing is that by addressing poverty...one deals a death blow to a significant cause of crime. Asserting any other means of dealing with crime is mere blown smoke.
cut down and destroyed by reagan and repubs
sayanroy36 3 months ago 3
EPIC FAIL
fargonbastedge 4 months ago
The black folks on the video should be ashamed of themselves. It wasn't "Great Society", that got you where you are! You got yourself to where you are. Great Society has made things worse for many people because the plan wasn't long term nor good in the first place.
vernell26 6 months ago
Great Society and many other government implementations are not about the results. They are about the agenda of getting many powerful interests paid billions and billions more.
Like if you were to cut all these implementations made back then, Wall Street would dive faster and further than any other time on record. Hundreds of industries would crash and create a ripple effect, affecting almost every corner of industrialization here in America.
Cold facts. I don't like it either.
aaronbfischer 8 months ago
If it wasn't for the war on poverty parts of America would look like the old days of Ethiopa and people would be on tv asking you to adopt a child. If it wasn't for medicare this world would be a mess. Sickness...death...pain..misery...all because of no health care. No medicaid? Same thing? The Fair Labeling act made it that food makers put the ingredients of food on their labels. Look how often we use this. Those are just a few things we use and the many things the republicans voted against.
dannyd1572 8 months ago 2
The Great Society planted the seeds for America's destruction. Since its passage the poverty level has skyrocketed, single parent households increased, and the black community has largly become dependant. With the intention of sacraficing liberty for equality and the rights of the individual for the rights of the collective, Great Scociety programs such as Medicare, food stamps and welfare, has placed this nation in trillions of dollars of debt to the effect of making us an Ungreat Society.
CWSmith03111982 10 months ago
@CWSmith03111982 Utter nonsense. Bush tax cuts robbed the coffers of the u.s. Between
that and the Toxic liar loans that is what ruined the u.s. We were in the black until then.
huckstered 8 months ago 2
this is what I call a Social Revolution!!!!!!! in Democracy!
less01 11 months ago
Should say "In horror of LBJ's 100th".....he scared the crap out of me as an 8 year old watchin mom's t.v....somehow I knew he was an evil potentate even at that age.!!
oreokookie1000 1 year ago
@zobielamouche1
Ignore all the good he's done and focus on some retarded anti government rhetoric. Have fun with life good sir
PwnageSoul 1 year ago
The Great Society was Communism at its best in th 60's, but then again we need it.
BranIL28 1 year ago
@BranIL28 The United States exists as a mix of socialism and democracy. Communism will be in full force when the elite take over complete control
of Washington. Representative government will wither and die. Corporate wealth
runs the country now to a great degree. Corruption is rampant now and greed is pandered to openly by politicians in favor of Wal-Mart, pharmaceutical companies,big oil, Health care giants and of course the biggest leeches of all
Wall Street.
huckstered 1 year ago
Its shameful how liberals have air-brushed this Great President from history.
The difference between Liberals and cannibals...cannibals only eat their enemies.
Sadly,I get the impression Obama is one of those Liberals.
stevenv1992 1 year ago
@stevenv1992 The liberals have not air brushed ... it has been the conservatives.
The conservatives will fight these and any other entitlement programs
tooth and nail. Liberals and progressives will fight for the disadvantaged to a
degree. They are marginally better than conservatives in influenced peddling D.C.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered I'm referring more to the person responsible for the Great Society: LBJ.
When liberals/most Democrats hear that name they see Vietnam only.
I include Obama in that.
stevenv1992 1 year ago
@stevenv1992 Yes. This is true of the general population, Nam ,Nam,Nam and LBJ knew the war would leave a bad legacy for him. But....the most liberal agenda ever is not forgotten by liberals. Particularly not Obama. A pres. who has passed the biggest liberal social reforms since LBJ cannot be unaware of what happened in D.C. during that time. Obama's preidency is possible because
of sixties legislation.It was a watershed administration for blacks and the country.
Obama knows this.
huckstered 1 year ago
People need to see this video. One of the best presidents ever!
AlecBoy006 1 year ago 2
The Great Society accomplished some good things like Medicare, Aid to Education, Head Start & a few other things. But if its goal was wipe out Poverty which I believed it was then so far it has failed because Poverty is still a big issue in America today.
The Great Society along with the New Deal created a "Culture of Dependency" when it should've Empowered poor people to lift themselves out of Poverty with Education, Job Training & Job Placement so they wouldn't be dependent on Tax Payers.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy The greatest reduction of any poverty rate happened in LBJ's administration from 23% to 12%. It is fiction to believe otherwise. Third world conditions would exist here if not for entitlement programs, you are deluded
into thinking otherwise by media propaganda as are so many others.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
3rd World Conditions do exist in America, ever been to Appalachia or the Mississippi Delta to use as examples? Can you show me those Regions are much better off today then they were 45 years ago? The "War on Poverty" is still an issue in America 45 years later.
America is a Great Society except for 45M americans who live in Poverty. The "War on Poverty" has been the 2nd longest declared war in American History behind the Cold War.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy Of course they are, Duh, can you imagine how much worse it would be for children at the bottom without public assistance, paticularly right now? Detroit inner city is in the same shape. Crime would be rampant,hunger, chaos, the rich have gotten richer- wealth disparities are much worse than in the sixties. Hve you no vision or hae you forgotten the poor in the wealthiest nation on earth? Brainwashed people like you are what is wrong with this country.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
Another person on YouTube not capable of having a Civil Dialogue.
The goal of the Great Society was to win the "War on Poverty. 45 years later were still fighting this War and Poverty is still a major issue in America. So in that sense the Great Society has failed or hasn't accomplished its mission.
The New Deal along with the Great Society created a "Culture of Dependence" on Public Assistance. When it instead of should've created a Culture of Empowerment for poor people.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy It depends on your perspective as to what success. There is a culture of bigotry that creates an under class. LBJ's great Society has been a huge sucess.
If you think I am being uncivil now just give me a chance. You are speaking fantasy such a place does not exist. It may never. You live in an alternate world wherin fantasy is a living breathing thing. There are many oppressed people
here and for nothing they have done ,it is a circumstance of birth.You cannot seem to understand.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
If nothing else your comment is amusing.
The "War on Poverty", what does that mean the LBJ declared War to wipe out Poverty. You declare War on something or against someone to win not to lose. 45 years later were still fighting the "War on Poverty". Thats your first clue that we haven't won the "War on Poverty" yet. So to this date it at best has been a mission unaccomplished. Thats not success. You want to win the "War on Poverty" you Empower poor people out of Poverty.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy To the contrary in particular medicare is a huge success.
Ask the bottom tier whether or not it was a success, there will be your answer. In particular because you say not it is so.
One cannot wipe out poverty any more than disease or war but it alleviated
much...poverty and misery and suffering. Wars are never won , you are indeed one misguided individual. I feel very sorry for you. You look for suffering people
and then condone it. May God have mercy on you.....
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
I already mentioned that Medicare which was part of the Great Society has been successful needs to be reformed but that different. So I don't know who your trying to convince there.
"War on Poverty" again 45M americans 1/6 live in Poverty how you call that a success is beyond me and I think thats based in Ideology not fact. Mission Unaccomplished at best
Your insults only amuse me so I appreciate the laughs, keep up the good work your one hell of a comedian.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy What you mentioned does not matter and I am not trying to convince you or anyone on here. These people are also without medical ins. but soon not so. This huge part of poverty will be alleviated. Things are much better for G.S. programs now, particularly the community mental health services. Children would be hungry etc...Fed student loans, truth in lending, clean air and water,civil rights, voting rights, These are only a very tiny fraction of G.S.
programs which changed our lives.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
Sure the "War on Poverty" was declared 45 years ago and now there 45M americans living in Poverty today. But hey that doesn't matter because you say so. By the way that 1M poor people per year something to think about.
Children are hungry something the Agriculture DEPT is looking at. You have your history mixed up, the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts were passed before the Great Society. Or maybe your just speaking up in favor of the Johnson Administration in general.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy These pieces of legislation were all a part of the great society programs. Looking for loopholes, desperation? Over one thousand pieces of legislation were passed into law during that time, to help.. MLK and the marches forced civil rights to the front burner. LBJ wanted to be the best pres. of them all. The history channel, in a program aired not long ago rated him in the
top five. Wash,. Lincoln, T.R. FDR and LBJ. Johnson came from poverty
and never forgot the people.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
Here some facts in case your interested in them.
Poverty in America was 19% in America when the "War on Poverty" was declared in 1965. Today officially its 15% 45M people but its probably closer to 17% 50M people or 1/6. Most people who would look at that issue objectively wouldn't say drop of 2% points with all of those billions spent is Progress. That would be called failure or Mission Unaccomplished.
You want to debate LBJ Legacy find, but don't call everything Great Society.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy Poverty would be at 25 % without LBJ. It is all great society.With the exception of the FDR legacy programs. LJB carried on the New Deal. Which was a continuation of the Square Deal started by TR- FDR's hero and cousin- it all emanates from TR. The Trust Buster , another hero of the commoner. I believe you do not know any of this. Corporate influence was
even worse than it is now back in T.Rs' s day. In ruins- standard oil, railroads,
sugar and child labor exploitation ,gone.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
"Poverty would be at 25% today without LBJ", we'll never know that will we thats called an estimation. We do know it was 19% in 1965 and 17% today. Unless you have an Ideological "Big Government" view of solving problems which by the way created the "Culture of Dependency" then its hard to call a 2% point drop in Poverty over 45 years successful. Especially considering all of the money we've spent.
Facts are stubborn you shouldn't let them get in the way of a good debate.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy Again the rate drop was from 23% to 13% during LBJ admin.
If it hadn't dropped it would have been higher today because it was reduced then.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
Where you get the 23-13 figure, LBJ was only President for about three years after the Great Society was implemented. Plus the Economy started slowing down in the Late 60's.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy It is what happened.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
You know this how?
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy What is it you ask?
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
In the 1990's the Clinton Administration had a different approach to fighting Poverty because they new "Culture of Dependency" wasn't working. Generations after generations of people were growing up in Poverty.
They decided to take a different approach by Empowering poor people to get themselves out of Poverty through Education and Job Training, Welfare to Work.
The results were Poverty fell to 13% because poor people were getting Educated and going to work perhaps the 1st time
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy The effect was the result of corruption of the govt. by wall street.
Now banks show profits by not keeping toxic mortgages on their balance sheets, a new law. So TO give themselves(CEO's ,exec.) bonuses. You are extremely naive, extermely naive. Uninformed people like you are what is ruining this country. 97% of wealth is owned by three percent of the pop. here and it is getting worse,don't keep your head in the sand. Bush tax cuts accelerated this process.Get informed, wake up.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
Just a question what does all of this have to with the Great Society which is what this video is about?
Perhaps your changing topics because you know I'm right about the Great Society and getting tired of talking about it.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy If you have to be informed on what this video is about
I can't help you.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
You said that Poverty fell during the Clinton Administration because of the Economic Boom of the 90's. I've heard that argument so many times and I wasn't impressed the first time I heard it and less impressed by it now. Because its been repeated and proven wrong.
The simple counter to the Economic Boom argument is that Economic Growth means nothing to poor people if they don't have the Skills and Education they need to get a good job. Which is why Welfare to Work is so important.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy Boom times means a low unempl rate. Whomever wanted to work would work, it was a false though economy of course. Held aloft by the real estate bubble all the soon to be- toxic mortgages etc, insider trading ie. selling bad dervatives,, etc,,etc. I believe you don't know anything of which I speak.
The mothers of head starters would learn how to read taking their children to this program, "For the first time". Wall street has run amock beginning with the reagan era via the S.E.C.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
Boom times mean nothing if you don't have an Education and the Skills needed to get a good job. Which is why Welfare to Work is so important. Otherwise your working at a Fast Food joint or a Grocery Store or in Retail lucky if your working there Full Time making 7-8$ an hour.
But if you Empower poor people and give themselves an opportunity at getting an Education and Job Training and Job Placement, then they can get themselves out of Poverty with a good job.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy Give themselves an opportunity ? Write back when you have learned
how to construct a sentence properly.That was ridiculous. What grade are you in?
huckstered 1 year ago
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FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy Thank you yes I am known as a funny person. However I will have to word this in a way such as that you will be able to understand, I guess. Poverty was much worse before,discrimination, much worse, health care much worse, dishonesty by finance much worse. Don't you understand this? This is a country of great wealth in comparison what does it say if we don't care for its' most defenseless citizens? It would be immoral, some of us cannot be successes
because of circumstance.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
I'll just lay it out for you and just part of this sinks in I'l consider it a success.
The New Deal and Great Society have created generations of poor people. Why because the Federal Government had this idea that if you give poor people a check then Poverty would go away on its own or that were giving them checks so now we don't have to worry about them now.
So parents raise their kids in Poverty and they go to bad schools or drop out and have kids, the same Cycle of Poverty
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy You think that a govt. program created poverty ? That a preposterous premise. The poverty which black people arose from was unspeakable. Poverty exists everywhere and far worse than here. Believe this or not this poverty was created by circumstance and not legislation. Old age before medicare and S.Sec. meant destitution and bad health with no health care.
What are we if we cannot care for the most defenseless of our citizens. Children,
mentally ill etc.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered
When Bill Clinton became President he understood that the way the FEDS were fighting Poverty wasn't working. Poverty was still a big deal when he became President in 1993 as it is now.
Bill Clinton's vision was an "Opportunity Society" where they would Empower poor people to get themselves the Education, Skills and Job Training that they need to lift themselves out of Poverty and break the Cycle Of Poverty and no longer be dependent on Public Assistance for their daily survival.
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy Great solution as in job corps, fed student loans, head start, civil rights act, affirmative action etc. Bill Clinton was not in the same league
as LBJ as a professional politician.Or even close, he landed in a time of prosperity
and was a shrewd operator yes. LBJ's political genius changed the country
within in five years- for the people at the bottom rung of society.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered You have no idea of what you are talking about. You "claim" others give no facts to back up their points. We you give no proof or make cite any historical sources. You are a joke and need to read some real history, not that slanted crap you learned from your progressive liberal teachers. You have nothing but a skull full of mush!
ardenspanzers 1 year ago
@ardenspanzers What is it you would like to know? I can tell you.
I had no progressive liberal teachers. But I did live use the Texas Electrical Co-op
grid which LBJ set during the New Deal. You are an idiot , you use New Deal programs everyday and do not eve know of it you are so uninformed.
When your times comes do not accept social security or medicare.
huckstered 1 year ago
@ardenspanzers What would you like to know? What facts ? You just spout nonsense with no intellectual premise at all, c'mon counter with something,
at least something. If you want a transfer of knowledge just ask. I took business admin. in college, all conservative instruction. All info in this video can be comprehended by someone with a little knowledge of politics, can't you ?
I will list what you want from memory but not everything of course, over
1000 laws were passed during LBJ admin.
huckstered 1 year ago
@FrsBigeasy The War on Poverty failed because it didn't completely eradicate poverty but Johnson's programs have been the most successful and have done the best job and the closest we have gotten to an all time low and eliminating poverty. Long live this man.
AlecBoy006V2 11 months ago 2
I love Lyndon Johnson. So sad we can't have such fierce populist liberalism like that these days... I desperately hope Obama takes a couple of pages from the Lyndon Johnson playbook to push his domestic agenda in the months ahead. It's the only way he'll avoid disastrous midterm losses, it's the only way he'll get reelected with a real mandate and it's the only way he'll make a true mark on american history and secure his place alongside LBJ and FDR. I'm still hopeful :)
micesy 1 year ago 3
As history goes on...Johnson will raise in terms of one our most effective presidents in American history! He cared for the people...Johnson created the conditions for the longest economic upturns in our history. Plus he worked for the working people as well as those crooks in Wall Street. He kept them in line...We need a Lyndon Johnson... History will judge him well!
steveforsane 2 years ago 2
Vietnam ruined LBJ's legacy, but I still believe President Johnson was THE most successful leader on the domestic front.
teamofrivals1 2 years ago 12
Had Vietnam never happened, the good times as the late 1940s to early 1970s could have lasted us more years.
janissary211 2 years ago
We need LBJ!
MadisonInChains 2 years ago 13
After tomorrow those goddam Kenndey's will never embarass me again, that's no threat , that's a promise"
Johnson said that one day before JFk was slaughtered.
045781 2 years ago
@MadisonInChains
We need a president who is not obsessed with being "nice" and reaching out to a GOP that wants no part of bi-partisanship. We need a leader who can get things done domestically like LBJ did....Obama...what a disappointment.
johnlouisville 2 years ago 4
@johnlouisville John, I think the pres. does not have the control over congress,
the influence that LBJ did, it would be near impossible to duplicate LBJ's accomplishments. He will be unique in history I would guess. One of a kind=
no has ever been able to do what was done for all , back then.
huckstered 1 year ago
@huckstered You are exactly right for a number of reasons, I believe,
he had a handle on the levers of power like few ever had, it is one of the great stories of history. Crooked, honest, deplorable, amazing , poorly educated &
Genius...all apt adjectives describing LBJ.
huckstered 1 year ago
If we want a public option we need to make it known.. we need to get more involved. For ways in which you can do this please visit the comment section of my profile. Sign the petitions and make the phone calls... become more active. You will find several resources there to help you get started. Thanks.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
Everything Kennedy would of done (besides Veitnam)Johnson did and im proud of him.
Nacho2333 2 years ago
I love Kennedy, and I think Johnson did the best he could. Truly one of the most unrrated president.
God bless you LBJ.
YanesAlexander 2 years ago 2
LBJ did much more than "the best he could". Undeerrated ? That is an unerstatement. He was the most efffective president in the history of the U.S. Passing legislation no one else
coulld have he was the greatest.
huckstered 2 years ago 3
He way out-Kennedy'd Kennedy.
LBJ was many times the politician Kenedy was.
huckstered 2 years ago 2
Nacho you must know nothing about LBJ, he was not the footnote to the JFK
administration.LBJ was the original.
He out Kennedy'd Kennedy. YOU are very naive about history and should research before posting. Vaya Con Dios
huckstered 2 years ago 2
I do know a lot about LBJ he is the 4th best President we had.What you dont know is JFK set a lot of stuff up to the Johnson Administration.Civil Rights was Kennedy.War on Poverty was Kennedy.(he gave a speech. Kennedy stopped WWIII he manged the best he could over Eisenhowers Mistakes at the Bay of Pigs.I do research things before posting mind you.Kennedy set the stepping stones for Johnson.
Nacho2333 2 years ago
Civil Rights legislation was one
of the issues on Truman's agenda. Civil rights legislation was intercepted by the south before it could reach the floor in the fities Anti lynching etc..One was even passed in Federal hiring during Trumans time. . Johnson introduced the war on poverty to a joint session of congress. JFK never could have
enacted the laws LBJ did. He did not have the influence in either house (Sam Rayburn).
huckstered 2 years ago 3
JFK did not have the influence, acquirred over a thirty year career, that LBJ did. He was elected after a soft peddle to the u.s. over the airwaves of T.V.
The bay of pigs was a circumstance
of the cold war, nothing more. ANYONE would have had to react. Did it T.G.Society compound JFK's principles. Yes. But many others had the same concern for the dispossessed, FDR did , LBJ's mentor. Harry truman was the first medicare recipient, this was his dream too.
huckstered 2 years ago
Trading, buying and selling politics,LBJ was out to do good..
A pragmatist or an idealist ,
A lifetime of conservative southern senator bloc voting only concealed what his true plan was. but he was a liberal in the style of the Roosvelt's underneath it all, waiting for the day......................... One of the great stories of history. This tale of history reaches beyond the U.S. It is no wonder he fought
for south Viet Nam, he believed in the good of democracy for all peoples.
huckstered 2 years ago 4
In LBJ's first year in office, he accomplished more than many presidents did in their entire administration. Vietnam was his nemesis, and hindered his ability to focus upon domestic issues from 1966 onward. A graceful exit from Vietnam during his Presidency would have had LBJ on a coin by now.
NordyMark0594 2 years ago 23
@NordyMark0594 exactly failure in vietnam and excessive rollback rather than detente is what ended the liberal crusade.
soorayHOMS 10 months ago
@NordyMark0594 I agree and to think that he inherited Viet Nam is a shame.
dannyd1572 8 months ago
Ronald Reagan (or Nixon depending on your point of view) fought a war on drugs and drugs won.
The War on Poverty did not fail, it was no longer funded by a congress disenchanted by urban riots. Lawmakers essentially said, via the vote, that if you riot, you get no more federal aid. Elements of the war on poverty and the great society remain a vital part of American life from clean rivers (remember how polluted the great lakes were in the 60s?) to gaurunteed student loans. LBJs enduring impact.
joflo82 2 years ago 5
i'm so sick of the reagan myth that the great society somehow failed. poverty rates fell from 22.2% to 12.6% between 1963 and 1970. poverty rates among african americans fell from 55% to 27%. poverty rates for the elderly dropped by 67%. underprivileged kids can go to college. the civil rights and voting rights acts were monumental successes. anyone who says the great society was a failure is distorting history and defiling the greatest president in us history.
texasliberal11 2 years ago 8
Her, Here ! I am from the New Brounfles area myself and there of millions of political neanderthals around here.
huckstered 2 years ago
He was the greatest!!
Mayofour 2 years ago 3
if not for Vietnam he would have been in the top 5 presidents of all time
crackmonster99 3 years ago 5
He was rated as one of the top five pres. of all time on a history channel documentary some while back. He is finally getting his just due. He was one of the top three I think. He just was the last soldier in the anti-communist cold war
left over from Korea and carried it on.
He should have not.
huckstered 2 years ago 2
The History channel ran a documentary which claimed that he was
in the top five. I agree.
huckstered 2 years ago 3
The greatest persident the US has ever had
less01 3 years ago 8
AMEN to that!
Suprkit 3 years ago
Lyndon Baines Johnson is probably the most underrated president.
AresCitadel 3 years ago 33
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dhLord64 3 years ago
He had many times the political acumen of Truman. Not always ethical but always in control. Harry was ethical
but Johnson used the means to justify the end. It was the most remarkable political period of history in the U.S.
wherein power was shifted toward the
people. Underneath all of the manuevering behind the scenes was a plan to help everyone. Something only LBJ could have done with such an accumulation of power , it was the best thing to happen to the U.S. ever.
huckstered 2 years ago 5
Who's Truman.
huckstered 2 years ago
and james k. polk
texasliberal11 2 years ago
Yeah, Harry S. Truman was quite underrated as well, even though he had to use common sense into making his decisions, ie. Atomic Bomb usage. LBJ was also a great president just cause he carried out JFKs dreams through death...except for Vietnam, that is.
russle360 2 years ago 4
Without a doubt. You can safely bet
it is the way it is. If it hadn't been for Nam
all would know. THis is the way republicans cover it up. Using Nam as a smoke screen. Have you noticed how many times LBJ's legacy has been invoked since Obama. Finally.
But even Obama does not an LBJ make.
I hope he wins his public option battle,
truly.
huckstered 2 years ago
The funny thing is that by addressing poverty...one deals a death blow to a significant cause of crime. Asserting any other means of dealing with crime is mere blown smoke.
mowriter 3 years ago
Well said , friend. Republicans
couldn't care less.
huckstered 2 years ago 5
pretty good video lots of good information about the president during those times of struggle
Rootsta 3 years ago 2
God bless President Johnson and his legacy.
Suprkit 3 years ago 5