Why do they deserve help when they can't even speak English? Someone give me a good-realistic answer to that... Fuck these people, SHIP EM' BACK!!! d[-_-]b
I don't feel sorry for these people. No more! They could care less about my family, how hard we work our whole lives, they insult our work ethic, our race, our country, then say 'give us reform or else'.
I could care less about them. They willingly chose to break our law, they willingly choose to steal our identities, take our handouts, then have the nerve to keep asking as if we owe them more, when we never owed them in the first place. Bullshit.
Why should obama help? He doesn't help you WE the taxpayers do. Why don't you ask your own people and government to help you? If you are in our country atleast learn the language, get duel citizenship if need be. Then talk to us. These people go decades running and hiding to save afew bucks out of their pockets and plainly misuse the system here in America. Blame yourselves not America when you get the boot or can't get help ... thats the problem we help far too much.
Here is an eye-opening and very disturbing report which stands as a stark reality check against the "family values don't stop at the border" bullshit which features widespread incest and absentee fathers who very often are dropouts, criminals, gang members, drug addicts and prison inmates.
h t t p : / / w w w . city-journal . org / html / 16_4_hispanic_family_values . html
According to the Pew Hispanic Center, the cumulative cost of illegal aliens to American tax payers is approx. $8.48B+ since Jan 1, 2010. included is $5.39B+ spent to educate their children, of whom half will drop out before graduation, $282M+ spent on the incarcerated & $4.02B+ sent by aliens back to their home countries!
Aliens come for a better life at the expense of the Americans, thus they're nothing more than thieves!
WAaaaaaaa!!!! Poor fking her! How much of our tax money is paying for her kid? Send this bitch back! They come here and expect everything for free! Free welfare, foodstamps,HUD housing, free school breakfest/lunch for their kids in schools, About 100 Hospitals are closed just in Calf. due to the fact that illegals don't bother to pay their bills! GTFO!!!!!!
please, go back to your own third world country and get in the LEGAL way!!! It isn't that hard, people have obviously been doing it for a while, otherwise there wouldn't even be a country!
After being ordered to leave in 2000 she not only refused to leave but also had 2 more kids on the taxpayer's backs.Of course she wants to stay!These sponging illegals are in paradise here.A paradise run by moron's whom give them everything they want for free.Meanwhile,our medical cost soar through the ceiling while these freeloaders enjoy gold plated medical care and feed their families absolutely free with WIC and foodstamps provided courtesy of us taxpayers.ENOUGH!!!
You sound like you are living in alternate universe. Where is your compassion? Do you have it for those you deem worthy, other "legitimate Americans?" How is the view from your high horse?
Being compassionate towards criminal invaders only results in getting taken advantage of.They've already been taking our kindness for weakness to the point to where we are bankrupt in Calif.!Why don't you let them live at your house and then you can start paying for their food and medical so we can see what a self righteous and compassionate pretender you really are!
I agree with ghfan36. Also, if illegal immigrants were as much of a threat as the US gvmt. makes them out to be, they wouldn't be getting across that border in the first place, much less hanging around. Most of them are not deported when they could easily be found out. The gvmt. chooses to turn the other cheek, so that corrupt companies can exploit them for cheap labor. They are made out to be the enemy to make them even more helpless and are effectively silenced.
I agree, not to mention many illegal immigrants are performing jobs some Americans would never touch. So is it okay to employ an illegal but god forbid compassion is extended?
Very true. The US should be thanking them, because a lot of the hard labor, espcecially around where I live, is soley thanks to them. My step dad, who was illegal, worked for under minimum wage and the work tore his body apart. He would have been a worthy citizen here, much more so than the typical, lazy, apathetic American. People here can shut up and be tools for the goverment and manage to live a comfortable if empty little life.
Oh no you don't. My family are Irish. Came here LEGALLY and busted their asses. They did jobs noone else wanted and didn't complain. They had a family to feed etc. They paid into the system, wanted to be American. Thats the problem today. Everyone wants help, jobs and free stuff but don't want to be associated as an American. They live here and hoist the mexican flag and call themselves proud? Not many others do that. I'm Irish but I don't raise the Irish flag over the US flag.
Because you have class. You are a true citizen whose descendents assimilated not only physically, but in their hearts. They became true to their new nation willingly and with pride. Unlike these people today who always want something for nothing. Undeserving scumbag filthy freeloaders.
@ghfan36 - BULLSHIT !!! Dont even start with your " But those are jobs that Americans wont even touch BULLSHIT . " Ive got about a ton of used tools that I cant use thanks to your " amigos " screwing up the wages by undercutting everyone by 1/ 2 to 2/3 of a livable. Fuck her and her family every step of the way back home !!! Get the fuck out of MY COUNTRY !!!!!!
@ghfan36 That is a fairy tale. WHAT job are Americans not going to touch - FOR A DECENT WAGE? You see, in the past, the pesos was worth far less than the dollar so it was possible for the law breakers to live here and send money back to Mexico. The only reason illegals have these jobs is they are cheaper. Americans just can't afford to do the jobs they get.
BS they don't. Illegals take every and any job they can. This is the false diversion used to make it sound like ILLEGALS are the victims. You are in our land taking from us. If people are so egar to work then why do it undocumented? It doesn't matter if mexicans believe they still own this land or we owe them something ... we don't. They owe us and explaination for the problems they cause us financially and yet blame us for their problems.
@loveusorleaveus - Your point is valid - WHY exactly cant they come to the US LEGALLY & then they can work to achieve the exact same rights as any other American citizen? Mexicans do indeed believe that they still own this land ! They are taught that schedule at the Highest levels of mexican government = Calderon & Fox have both said this publically. They want tension between our countries to exist & they want their citizens to work in the US so that they will send billions back to mexiscum !
@veerasix - A small portion of that planet called The United States Of America is where I live. We have laws in that country which have determined that hiring , harboring and being an ILLEGAL ALIEN is CRIMINAL. These laws are made to be enforced such that anyone residing here within its borders must follow them. 12-20,000,000 ILLEGAL ALIENS are just now beginning to understand that these laws are intended for them also. La Raza , their " Voice to the Media " , is aiding & abetting the enemy !!!
@BoxGuy1951 Sir, as far as I am concerned, you are the enemy until you see a good, earnest people for what they are. Have you forgotten how America was formed? It is duty to disobey unjust laws.
@veerasix - I see " these people " as exactly who & what they are. They are Criminals & ENEMIES of the US and should betreated accordingly !!! Your beliefs are fostered in sympathy for them which has evidentally led you to comment that " It is duty to disobey unjust laws ." I have had my work displaced from vieing with others that would hire them ( ALSO ILLEGAL ) & had to close my doors & let my employees go. For some reason that doesnt bother you & you choose ILLEGAL over LEGAL ! FUCK YOU !
@BoxGuy1951 Take it up with our government, which purposefully exploits them for hard labor often under minimum wage. If it were even remotely possible for them to become citizens, they would, and that would solve a lot of problems. Maybe that's what you should focus on, because the government is never going to really regulate them coming here-- you should know that by now. They'll continue to keep their faces in the dirt, and cause you all this trouble as well. Thanks cupcake.
veerasix- The US is still today allowing approx. 75,000 immigrants per month into our system ( ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR EVEN ONE TO COME HERE DUE TO OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS ) and therefore is much more than remotely possible. These people are entering the US LEGALLY & will almost all become US citizens. Your points are ALL invalid under the LAWS of the US & also because the majority of Americans DO NOT WANT THEM HERE. If you have sympathy for them YOU PAY FOR THEM in mexiscum !
@BoxGuy1951 Those immigrants have money. It is not possible for a desperate, impoverished people to come up with that sort of money. My mother, who is an American citizen, was married to an illegal immigrant for ten years, and all 3 of us together could not afford his papers in all that time.
1. Caps lock doesn't make a point; it makes you look like a dumbass. 2. Saying a point is invalid is not proving so; it's avoiding the core subject matter. 3. "Mexiscum" is very telling of your character.
veerasix- That sounds like its """" YOUR PROBLEM """". I like to use the CAPS LOCKS for their intended purpose !Mexiscum tells EXACTLY the way I feel about that sesspool south of the US. Guess why its the way it is? Its because the people that live there DONT CLEAN IT UP AND PUT PEOPLE IN OFFICE THAT WILL WORK FOR THEM !!! YOU avoid the TRUTH at all costs and run away in your mexican mentality of finger pointing and crying about " The Bad ". FUCK YOU you ignorant BITCH & your ALIEN FAMILY too !
Are you suggesting that American citizens aren't good, earnest people? It sounds like it. And it is an American's duty to disobey unjust laws according to the US Constitutuion. Illegal aliens are not citizens so what's your point.
@Metallicat100 I am an American citizen, and obviously don't suggest such a thing. See, i judge by a person-by-person basis, and don't generalize an entire population by place of birth-- nor cast them away to rot in poverty when they are willing to work hard. What is unjust is that the immigrants are exploited by our government. They work hard. They deserve citizenship, want it, but it is virtually impossible. Ergo I join the good fight for the sake of humanity.
That's great that your heart is bleeding for them. Maybe their millions can all come stay with you and your family. It's a slap in the face to suggest they are the only people who work hard, and that because of this reason they should be granted amnesty. It is possible for them to become citizens-by doing it the right, legal way as millions have done before them. Demanding something you aren't entitled to doesn't endear you to the folks who are paying your way against their own wills.
No, it is not. My American mother was married to an illegal immigrant for ten years and the three of us together could not afford to get his papers in all that time. Why? Big corporation actually loves cheap hard labor, and doesn't give a shit about you, or them. You should know by now that they're never /really/ going to regulate them coming here.
If it's so expensive, why do millions do it the right way without bitching? That's an excuse to break our laws. Obviously American citizens are being screwed from both sides. But giving a blanket amnesty has never helped us like it was supposed to, has it? It's been a complete disaster and only encouraged MORE illegals to come here; it hasn't encouraged anyone to come here legally, because they know they can get away with slithering over our border & nothing happens to them.
@Metallicat100 Because they have money, don't they? Do you think they just woke up in the morning like, "I could be an American citizen, it's oh-so possible. But instead I'm going to walk across a desert with my family to be an illegal alien criminal."
I don't feel sorry for them. They have choices in life, like the rest of us. I have no desire to reward them for this. Nobody forces them to come here & put their kids in the middle of it; that's their choice. Shame on them for using their kids as pawns for amnesty.
@Metallicat100 The point wasn't for you to feel sorry. The point is they have no way to come here legally, so they will do so illegally. That's just a fact, and disagreeing doesn't change it.
You cannot say one of the biggest points they try to make is the family separation thing. Sure they try to work it. As to your other point, of course they will come here illegally; they're doing it, aren't they? Unchecked and even aided by our own citizens. Of course I don't have to like it, and I know that won't change anything. But I believe in borders, laws and the sovereignty of my nation, and if the current laws won't be enforced, what's the point of reform? It has to start with that.
@Metallicat100 "You cannot say one of the biggest points they try to make is the family separation thing." What statement of mine are you referring to exactly in this conversation? Quote it, or stop changing the subject and putting words in my mouth.
You admit it's not changing anything. "What's the point of reform?" Well then, what's the point of your position? It's simply not going to work your way. You can't know how well reform will work until it is given a chance.
I wasn't referring to a statement of yours when I said that. Just giving an opinion.
My position has a point. Whether or not it will work remains to be seen. I don't have to accept reform; that's my choice, and I've given you some reasons why. So obviously I will agree to disagree with you.
@Metallicat100 Not a "blanket of amnesty". Something we can agree on: they're going to be here, one way or another. Do you want them to be off the record and work for such low wages that Americans can't compete with, or do you want them to be allowed a real chance at citizenship, so they can carry their own load?
I want them OUT. They don't carry their own load; how can they? They have too many kids. I get rewarded for this by paying taxes to support them, thus reducing my ability to support a bigger family of my own, if I so desire to have one. Just because there are millions here doesn't mean we have to accept them and grant them amnesty; that's what they're hoping for, overwhelming by numbers. Our country is broke; how can anyone justify supporting them at a time like this? There's no work.
@Metallicat100 Well, the reality is that isn't going to happen. You did not address the point of my previous comment. So you can continue in your way, work with the system as it is-- flawed-- and get nowhere.
@ghfan36 - That is the LITERAL TRUTH. SHE and her anchor babies and family are all CRIMINALS. Save those tears for the people south of the US border and get packing so you wont miss your chance to get there without being thrown into jail. GO HOME !!!
should be deported... putting on this theater does not change the fact, she is sponging of the American taxpayer for medical care, her country should provide this, not US...
Her son that was receiving treatment has died. Not to mention there are plenty of American citizens who cannot afford healthcare or who benefit from the Shriners.
yeah, and sending most of that money to her 3rd world country, not investing it into our system... so she has no right to ask the president for anything other than a speedy deportation...
@ghfan36 - Youre right . What was she thinking when she actually left her family here in the US. Why would ANYONE leave their children for ANY reason for someone else to take care of when they are completely able themselves ? How does she look to you now pedro ?
Another example of a burden to taxpayers without whom the U.S. would be much better off ...
DerailAmnestydotcom 1 year ago
Why do they deserve help when they can't even speak English? Someone give me a good-realistic answer to that... Fuck these people, SHIP EM' BACK!!! d[-_-]b
venictos 1 year ago
GTFO of my country
jimmyjames133 1 year ago
Shoot to kill!
REWHBLCAIN 1 year ago
do you have to be in church to plea for help to obama? it's more like praying because many think obama is god...
b4dan92 1 year ago
Call Obama! See where that gets you! Same place it's gotten the rest of us!
Uncle Sam owes you shit if you are illegal.
Metallicat100 1 year ago
I don't feel sorry for these people. No more! They could care less about my family, how hard we work our whole lives, they insult our work ethic, our race, our country, then say 'give us reform or else'.
I could care less about them. They willingly chose to break our law, they willingly choose to steal our identities, take our handouts, then have the nerve to keep asking as if we owe them more, when we never owed them in the first place. Bullshit.
Metallicat100 1 year ago
Why should obama help? He doesn't help you WE the taxpayers do. Why don't you ask your own people and government to help you? If you are in our country atleast learn the language, get duel citizenship if need be. Then talk to us. These people go decades running and hiding to save afew bucks out of their pockets and plainly misuse the system here in America. Blame yourselves not America when you get the boot or can't get help ... thats the problem we help far too much.
loveusorleaveus 1 year ago
If mexishitco is so hot, why isn't this ugly bitch back there?
mbabist01 1 year ago
Here is an eye-opening and very disturbing report which stands as a stark reality check against the "family values don't stop at the border" bullshit which features widespread incest and absentee fathers who very often are dropouts, criminals, gang members, drug addicts and prison inmates.
h t t p : / / w w w . city-journal . org / html / 16_4_hispanic_family_values . html
cwp91206 1 year ago
According to the Pew Hispanic Center, the cumulative cost of illegal aliens to American tax payers is approx. $8.48B+ since Jan 1, 2010. included is $5.39B+ spent to educate their children, of whom half will drop out before graduation, $282M+ spent on the incarcerated & $4.02B+ sent by aliens back to their home countries!
Aliens come for a better life at the expense of the Americans, thus they're nothing more than thieves!
Illegal immigration is a FEDERAL crime!
GTFO of my country, bitch!
TheTankinTortuga 1 year ago 2
WAaaaaaaa!!!! Poor fking her! How much of our tax money is paying for her kid? Send this bitch back! They come here and expect everything for free! Free welfare, foodstamps,HUD housing, free school breakfest/lunch for their kids in schools, About 100 Hospitals are closed just in Calf. due to the fact that illegals don't bother to pay their bills! GTFO!!!!!!
Tremleypt 1 year ago 6
What about an update on her family and if her son and partner are still being held, or if they have been deported?
ghfan36 2 years ago
please, go back to your own third world country and get in the LEGAL way!!! It isn't that hard, people have obviously been doing it for a while, otherwise there wouldn't even be a country!
LordWhorfinX 2 years ago
After being ordered to leave in 2000 she not only refused to leave but also had 2 more kids on the taxpayer's backs.Of course she wants to stay!These sponging illegals are in paradise here.A paradise run by moron's whom give them everything they want for free.Meanwhile,our medical cost soar through the ceiling while these freeloaders enjoy gold plated medical care and feed their families absolutely free with WIC and foodstamps provided courtesy of us taxpayers.ENOUGH!!!
Willstruth 2 years ago
You sound like you are living in alternate universe. Where is your compassion? Do you have it for those you deem worthy, other "legitimate Americans?" How is the view from your high horse?
ghfan36 2 years ago
Being compassionate towards criminal invaders only results in getting taken advantage of.They've already been taking our kindness for weakness to the point to where we are bankrupt in Calif.!Why don't you let them live at your house and then you can start paying for their food and medical so we can see what a self righteous and compassionate pretender you really are!
Willstruth 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I am not self-righteous or a pretender but I am human. "Criminal invaders?" Give me a break. It is sad how angry you are.
ghfan36 2 years ago
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veerasix 2 years ago
I agree with ghfan36. Also, if illegal immigrants were as much of a threat as the US gvmt. makes them out to be, they wouldn't be getting across that border in the first place, much less hanging around. Most of them are not deported when they could easily be found out. The gvmt. chooses to turn the other cheek, so that corrupt companies can exploit them for cheap labor. They are made out to be the enemy to make them even more helpless and are effectively silenced.
veerasix 2 years ago
I agree, not to mention many illegal immigrants are performing jobs some Americans would never touch. So is it okay to employ an illegal but god forbid compassion is extended?
ghfan36 2 years ago
Very true. The US should be thanking them, because a lot of the hard labor, espcecially around where I live, is soley thanks to them. My step dad, who was illegal, worked for under minimum wage and the work tore his body apart. He would have been a worthy citizen here, much more so than the typical, lazy, apathetic American. People here can shut up and be tools for the goverment and manage to live a comfortable if empty little life.
veerasix 2 years ago
Oh no you don't. My family are Irish. Came here LEGALLY and busted their asses. They did jobs noone else wanted and didn't complain. They had a family to feed etc. They paid into the system, wanted to be American. Thats the problem today. Everyone wants help, jobs and free stuff but don't want to be associated as an American. They live here and hoist the mexican flag and call themselves proud? Not many others do that. I'm Irish but I don't raise the Irish flag over the US flag.
loveusorleaveus 1 year ago 2
Because you have class. You are a true citizen whose descendents assimilated not only physically, but in their hearts. They became true to their new nation willingly and with pride. Unlike these people today who always want something for nothing. Undeserving scumbag filthy freeloaders.
Metallicat100 1 year ago
@ghfan36 - BULLSHIT !!! Dont even start with your " But those are jobs that Americans wont even touch BULLSHIT . " Ive got about a ton of used tools that I cant use thanks to your " amigos " screwing up the wages by undercutting everyone by 1/ 2 to 2/3 of a livable. Fuck her and her family every step of the way back home !!! Get the fuck out of MY COUNTRY !!!!!!
BoxGuy1951 1 year ago
@BoxGuy1951 on your side my friend gtfo
millionairat31 1 year ago
@ghfan36 That is a fairy tale. WHAT job are Americans not going to touch - FOR A DECENT WAGE? You see, in the past, the pesos was worth far less than the dollar so it was possible for the law breakers to live here and send money back to Mexico. The only reason illegals have these jobs is they are cheaper. Americans just can't afford to do the jobs they get.
vivalaleta 1 year ago
BS they don't. Illegals take every and any job they can. This is the false diversion used to make it sound like ILLEGALS are the victims. You are in our land taking from us. If people are so egar to work then why do it undocumented? It doesn't matter if mexicans believe they still own this land or we owe them something ... we don't. They owe us and explaination for the problems they cause us financially and yet blame us for their problems.
loveusorleaveus 1 year ago
@loveusorleaveus - Your point is valid - WHY exactly cant they come to the US LEGALLY & then they can work to achieve the exact same rights as any other American citizen? Mexicans do indeed believe that they still own this land ! They are taught that schedule at the Highest levels of mexican government = Calderon & Fox have both said this publically. They want tension between our countries to exist & they want their citizens to work in the US so that they will send billions back to mexiscum !
BoxGuy1951 1 year ago
@veerasix - THese people are ILLEGAL ALIENS. GO HOME and stop whimpering. Make a better life for ypourself south of the US border !
BoxGuy1951 1 year ago
@BoxGuy1951 I am home, thanks. I was born on planet earth. Where the fuck do you hail from?
veerasix 1 year ago
@veerasix - A small portion of that planet called The United States Of America is where I live. We have laws in that country which have determined that hiring , harboring and being an ILLEGAL ALIEN is CRIMINAL. These laws are made to be enforced such that anyone residing here within its borders must follow them. 12-20,000,000 ILLEGAL ALIENS are just now beginning to understand that these laws are intended for them also. La Raza , their " Voice to the Media " , is aiding & abetting the enemy !!!
BoxGuy1951 1 year ago
@BoxGuy1951 Sir, as far as I am concerned, you are the enemy until you see a good, earnest people for what they are. Have you forgotten how America was formed? It is duty to disobey unjust laws.
veerasix 1 year ago
@veerasix - I see " these people " as exactly who & what they are. They are Criminals & ENEMIES of the US and should betreated accordingly !!! Your beliefs are fostered in sympathy for them which has evidentally led you to comment that " It is duty to disobey unjust laws ." I have had my work displaced from vieing with others that would hire them ( ALSO ILLEGAL ) & had to close my doors & let my employees go. For some reason that doesnt bother you & you choose ILLEGAL over LEGAL ! FUCK YOU !
BoxGuy1951 1 year ago
@BoxGuy1951 Take it up with our government, which purposefully exploits them for hard labor often under minimum wage. If it were even remotely possible for them to become citizens, they would, and that would solve a lot of problems. Maybe that's what you should focus on, because the government is never going to really regulate them coming here-- you should know that by now. They'll continue to keep their faces in the dirt, and cause you all this trouble as well. Thanks cupcake.
veerasix 1 year ago
veerasix- The US is still today allowing approx. 75,000 immigrants per month into our system ( ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR EVEN ONE TO COME HERE DUE TO OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS ) and therefore is much more than remotely possible. These people are entering the US LEGALLY & will almost all become US citizens. Your points are ALL invalid under the LAWS of the US & also because the majority of Americans DO NOT WANT THEM HERE. If you have sympathy for them YOU PAY FOR THEM in mexiscum !
BoxGuy1951 1 year ago
@BoxGuy1951 Those immigrants have money. It is not possible for a desperate, impoverished people to come up with that sort of money. My mother, who is an American citizen, was married to an illegal immigrant for ten years, and all 3 of us together could not afford his papers in all that time.
1. Caps lock doesn't make a point; it makes you look like a dumbass. 2. Saying a point is invalid is not proving so; it's avoiding the core subject matter. 3. "Mexiscum" is very telling of your character.
veerasix 1 year ago
veerasix- That sounds like its """" YOUR PROBLEM """". I like to use the CAPS LOCKS for their intended purpose !Mexiscum tells EXACTLY the way I feel about that sesspool south of the US. Guess why its the way it is? Its because the people that live there DONT CLEAN IT UP AND PUT PEOPLE IN OFFICE THAT WILL WORK FOR THEM !!! YOU avoid the TRUTH at all costs and run away in your mexican mentality of finger pointing and crying about " The Bad ". FUCK YOU you ignorant BITCH & your ALIEN FAMILY too !
BoxGuy1951 1 year ago
Are you suggesting that American citizens aren't good, earnest people? It sounds like it. And it is an American's duty to disobey unjust laws according to the US Constitutuion. Illegal aliens are not citizens so what's your point.
Metallicat100 1 year ago
@Metallicat100 I am an American citizen, and obviously don't suggest such a thing. See, i judge by a person-by-person basis, and don't generalize an entire population by place of birth-- nor cast them away to rot in poverty when they are willing to work hard. What is unjust is that the immigrants are exploited by our government. They work hard. They deserve citizenship, want it, but it is virtually impossible. Ergo I join the good fight for the sake of humanity.
veerasix 1 year ago
That's great that your heart is bleeding for them. Maybe their millions can all come stay with you and your family. It's a slap in the face to suggest they are the only people who work hard, and that because of this reason they should be granted amnesty. It is possible for them to become citizens-by doing it the right, legal way as millions have done before them. Demanding something you aren't entitled to doesn't endear you to the folks who are paying your way against their own wills.
Metallicat100 1 year ago
@Metallicat100 Yeah, that's totally what I'm going for.
No, it is not. My American mother was married to an illegal immigrant for ten years and the three of us together could not afford to get his papers in all that time. Why? Big corporation actually loves cheap hard labor, and doesn't give a shit about you, or them. You should know by now that they're never /really/ going to regulate them coming here.
veerasix 1 year ago
If it's so expensive, why do millions do it the right way without bitching? That's an excuse to break our laws. Obviously American citizens are being screwed from both sides. But giving a blanket amnesty has never helped us like it was supposed to, has it? It's been a complete disaster and only encouraged MORE illegals to come here; it hasn't encouraged anyone to come here legally, because they know they can get away with slithering over our border & nothing happens to them.
Metallicat100 1 year ago
@Metallicat100 Because they have money, don't they? Do you think they just woke up in the morning like, "I could be an American citizen, it's oh-so possible. But instead I'm going to walk across a desert with my family to be an illegal alien criminal."
veerasix 1 year ago
I don't feel sorry for them. They have choices in life, like the rest of us. I have no desire to reward them for this. Nobody forces them to come here & put their kids in the middle of it; that's their choice. Shame on them for using their kids as pawns for amnesty.
Metallicat100 1 year ago
@Metallicat100 The point wasn't for you to feel sorry. The point is they have no way to come here legally, so they will do so illegally. That's just a fact, and disagreeing doesn't change it.
veerasix 1 year ago
You cannot say one of the biggest points they try to make is the family separation thing. Sure they try to work it. As to your other point, of course they will come here illegally; they're doing it, aren't they? Unchecked and even aided by our own citizens. Of course I don't have to like it, and I know that won't change anything. But I believe in borders, laws and the sovereignty of my nation, and if the current laws won't be enforced, what's the point of reform? It has to start with that.
Metallicat100 1 year ago
@Metallicat100 "You cannot say one of the biggest points they try to make is the family separation thing." What statement of mine are you referring to exactly in this conversation? Quote it, or stop changing the subject and putting words in my mouth.
You admit it's not changing anything. "What's the point of reform?" Well then, what's the point of your position? It's simply not going to work your way. You can't know how well reform will work until it is given a chance.
veerasix 1 year ago
I wasn't referring to a statement of yours when I said that. Just giving an opinion.
My position has a point. Whether or not it will work remains to be seen. I don't have to accept reform; that's my choice, and I've given you some reasons why. So obviously I will agree to disagree with you.
Metallicat100 1 year ago
@Metallicat100 Not a "blanket of amnesty". Something we can agree on: they're going to be here, one way or another. Do you want them to be off the record and work for such low wages that Americans can't compete with, or do you want them to be allowed a real chance at citizenship, so they can carry their own load?
veerasix 1 year ago
I want them OUT. They don't carry their own load; how can they? They have too many kids. I get rewarded for this by paying taxes to support them, thus reducing my ability to support a bigger family of my own, if I so desire to have one. Just because there are millions here doesn't mean we have to accept them and grant them amnesty; that's what they're hoping for, overwhelming by numbers. Our country is broke; how can anyone justify supporting them at a time like this? There's no work.
Metallicat100 1 year ago
@Metallicat100 Well, the reality is that isn't going to happen. You did not address the point of my previous comment. So you can continue in your way, work with the system as it is-- flawed-- and get nowhere.
veerasix 1 year ago
@ghfan36 - That is the LITERAL TRUTH. SHE and her anchor babies and family are all CRIMINALS. Save those tears for the people south of the US border and get packing so you wont miss your chance to get there without being thrown into jail. GO HOME !!!
BoxGuy1951 1 year ago
@ghfan36 - Yeah its called REALITY FUCKWAD. Why dont YOU join us in it someday WITHOUT these ILLEGAL ALIENS !
BoxGuy1951 1 year ago
@Willstruth - Well spoken Sir. Your comment is appreciated !
BoxGuy1951 1 year ago
should be deported... putting on this theater does not change the fact, she is sponging of the American taxpayer for medical care, her country should provide this, not US...
gothicvega 2 years ago 3
She and her family have been working here in the U.S. for years. So technically that is not "sponging off the American taxpayer."
ghfan36 2 years ago
Technically, it is. She is not paying for the treatment for her son. WE are.
pr05 2 years ago 4
Her son that was receiving treatment has died. Not to mention there are plenty of American citizens who cannot afford healthcare or who benefit from the Shriners.
ghfan36 2 years ago
yeah, and sending most of that money to her 3rd world country, not investing it into our system... so she has no right to ask the president for anything other than a speedy deportation...
gothicvega 2 years ago 3
Also important that a light is shone on an issue that is often misunderstood and overlooked.
ghfan36 2 years ago
A very powerful and sad story. It is not right to tear a family apart.
ghfan36 2 years ago
when she gets deported, she decides on whether or not to take her son with her.
pr05 2 years ago 2
@ghfan36 - Youre right . What was she thinking when she actually left her family here in the US. Why would ANYONE leave their children for ANY reason for someone else to take care of when they are completely able themselves ? How does she look to you now pedro ?
BoxGuy1951 1 year ago