XL Airways Boeing 737-800 landing Lourdes cockpit view

[AR123457]

May I use the sound from this video in an FSX vid ?

[riki334]

the first officer just has two bars?! Usally it's three or am I wrong??

[gusyboyy]

@riki334 He's a junior first officer - Second officer with the company

[riki334]

@gusyboyy Ok. Nice! Thx!!

[skunky1112]

nice smile

[aaddrriiaannwwiill]

i would get annoyed after pressing all them buttons

[sub2010zeroo]

i would like to ask a Questions please .......when do u use Fuel Pump switches and turn them on????

[djknightmare666]

@sub2010zeroo The fuel pumps are turned on prior to engine start and after engine shut down...fuel pumps can only be turned on when there is a minimum of 453KG in the tank.

One fuel pump is left on in normal operation to assist the APU when its in use.

[turbine1013]

Autopilot taken out at 0:34

[turbine1013]

Dude, you forgot to flare at 20 feet Radio. And I do have over 3000hrs....

[totallyairplanecrazy]

@turbine1013 it could just be autoland seemingly forgetting it

[9GaBeE0]

the first officer looks very young. how old can he be??

[gtreephwood]

My touchdown speed is mostly being 137-140 knot in 737-800 is this too slow for landing?And ı want to learn when ı ll use reverse thurst .in fsx passengers when ı use reverse it says me this is dangerous.Thanks u all.

[PanagiotisTsioufis]

@gtreephwood i think your landing speed (vref) should be a a little bit higher than that. However, it depends on your currenet fuel and payload. If you setup the FMC correctly, then it will tell you automatically what's the right speed. Finally, as for the reverse, pilots engage it as soon as the aircraft touches down and DISENGAGE it at 60 knots! That's why you get a warning in FSPassengers ;) Hope I've helped!

[aaronman6188]

I play with Fs passengers... and landing in it with that rate of descent causes a tyre blow out!. must find out how to get it more realistic!

[jonnydelajonny]

3:40 the smile of the first officer ^^ it is lollig

[MrZacadinho]

@specops3866 Actually the standard landing (ILS or manual) flap setting for the boeing 737-800 is 30 degrees. The only time when full flaps is selected is when the pilot is executing an auto land.

[dnhug]

very nice, good vid!!

greets, dom

[MyFallenIdolMusic]

Man the FO looks really young. ;D

[specops3866]

on a short runway like this what do you think the flaps were set to?

[PuffMac]

@specops3866 30

[MyFallenIdolMusic]

@specops3866 FUll flaps. no matter how big or small the runway is the flaps should go to full. it help increase drag to slow the plane down.

[specops3866]

@MyFallenIdolMusic according to a 737 pilot I met, he said it varies on the runway when taking off. I guess I thought the same for landing.

[Viikkasota]

What is the safe landing speed with 737-800? And how down the flaps should be? Fully down?

[bodkins01]

GOOGLE

[zonky91]

I'm pilot and fly on 737

so...

You have two possibility:

flaps 30 or 40, and speed 130 or 140 kts.

I recommend 737'checklist, look on vref

[ElektroBoyRoma]

= )

[thedudewithoutabrain]

if ur a pilot is it ok if i ask u aquestion ok here it is:are people aloud to film when the plane is landing?

[PhantomBadass]

There is many more than two possibilities flaps are used for very specific circumstances and the speed is more than just 130 or 140 its cna be anything between. It is calculated on the weight of the aircraft as to what speed should be used to land and how long the aircraft will take to stop at that speed. (it is also to ensure as safe margin above the stall speed which obviously changes with varying weight)

[Feuerwaffen]

Fully down. And like 140 to 160 knots. Thats what i do with Flightsim with the PMDG.

[PhantomBadass]

160 KIAS is way over a normal landing speed in fact 160 KIAS is where the landing gear is lowered usually above 1000 ft QFE and you final approach speed would normally be in the region of 145 KIAS and the landing speed will vary but will obviously be below 145 KIAS.

[linkapus]

@PhantomBadass what is the speed for 777-300?

[PhantomBadass]

@linkapus For the 777-300 the landing speed obviously varies dependant on weather and aircraft weight etc but usually is in the regoin of 150 KIAS. :)

[atomicflex]

@PhantomBadass so it wouldnt vary depending on weight/flap/weather then? dont forget concorde landed in excess of 180kts. saying below 145Kias is too broad a sweeping statement given the massive amount of variables.

[PhantomBadass]

@atomicflex Yes if you read my comment that's exactly what I'm saying it does vary, but will ALWAYS be below 145 KIAS, There are a massive amount of vairiables which is why I DIDN'T put a specific figure because there isn't one, landings will be anywhere between 130 KIAS and 140 KIAS they could even be lower than 130, but this is very rare. Concorde only landed that fast because it was very unstable at low speeds, therefore to maintain acceptable maneuverability a high landing speed was used.

[atomicflex]

@PhantomBadass I would disagree with that with heavies regurlarly landing in excess of 145kts and turbopops and RJ's regularly under 130kts. The 737-8 is a particularly "slippy" aircraft and for an example a max weight landing (144K Lbs) @ Flap 30 would give you a Vref of 150kts, and then crews usually add 5kts making a Vref of 155kts (vref +5 unless winds dictate more) so as you can see, Vrefs are not ALWAYS below 145kts. Go for a flap 15 landing are your nearer 165kts.

[PhantomBadass]

@atomicflex Ok so firstly this discussion was nothing to do with any type of aircraft other than the B737NG. Secondly very rarely will a 737-800 touch down at 150 KIAS remember Vref is FINAL APPROACH speed up to 50 feet above the threshold, Vref is the minimum maneuvering speed, once the threshold is crossed, throttles are idled and the speed would drop, to LESS than 145KIAS touch down speed. Also remember max weight landings are rare. Vref is stall speed +30% so touch down can be below Vref.

[atomicflex]

@PhantomBadass Ok you will argue every fact and figure clearly, even with those from a boeing speed graph. You may think max weight landings are rare, so are flap 40 landings! The figures are 737 NG figures, the 738 being the slipiest of them all. Get out of the PC sim and onto a real flight deck and your inferior comments may be justified.

[PhantomBadass]

@atomicflex Firstly you being incredibly childish in what was JUST A DISCUSSION secondly if you actually looked you'd see I am currently training to be a commercial pilot NO I haven't flown commerically yet, but I WILL and I have as part of (f)ATPL ground school looked at all sorts of aircraft, I took special interest in the 737NG as many of my fellow students also have. I never said flaps 40 landings weren't rare, you keep trying to prove me wrong on things I never said! What exactly do you do?

[atomicflex]

@PhantomBadass if as you claim you have a frozen ATPL you will know how wrong your statement of "vref will ALWAYS be under 145kts" is. I have worked in aviation for over 20 years and hold several tickets including the Next Gen's. the vref on the 737 Next Gens can range from 120kts to 170kts+ simple facts check the speed graphs.. End of discussion.

[PhantomBadass]

@atomicflex Ok yet again, you've taken what I've said COMPLETLEY out of context I said (f)ATPL GROUND SCHOOL if you knew anything about flight training you'd know most FTO's have you complete PPL, CPL and (f) ATPL Groud school and exams, BEFORE the flying training, as this is the least expensive part. Once (f)ATPL ground exams are passed normally the CPL flying training or hours build will start. I've tried to be civilised but now your starting to iritate me, if anyone seems full of it it's you.

[atomicflex]

@PhantomBadass come back when you have 3000+ hours and learnt how to spell manoeuver (strangely a key phrase in ATPL exams!) little one.

[PhantomBadass]

@atomicflex Ok so I don't have anywhere near 3000 hours and I never said I did, DO you?! Secondly I misspelled ONE word stop being so damn childish, it's making you look very silly. Thirdly, for your information all the exams are multiple choice, so you never really have to write the words that often, but I'm sure you'll come back saying you knew that...

[PhantomBadass]

@atomicflex Furthermore, and once again I'm CLARIFYING what I've already said, I NEVER said Vref would be ALWAYS be under 145 KIAS I said LANDINGS would be under 145 KIAS and as I also said earlier Vref would be the speed on a stabilised final approach (Vref +5 in most SOP's) once the threshold is crossed, power is idled and during the flare the speed will retard, 99% of the time to LESS than 145 KIAS. Pay more attention to what is written please.

[atomicflex]

I have paid full attention and what you have said is wrong, so a Vref of 165kts will give a TD speed of 145? Seriously, You should reconsider your career choice my friend. You have continually tried to counter an argument with argument. As for hours, oh yes my friend. Anyway, as you are starting to bore me I will be leaving it as this. Feel free to have to the last word if you wish ;) nice "discussing with you" and good luck on the ATPL.

[bajesus666]

@PhantomBadass your landing speed depends on your weight and such.

[PhantomBadass]

@bajesus666 Yeh thanks for that, as I stated the landing speed will vary, perhaps I should have ellaborated as to why. The landing speed will vary depending on weight, weather conditions, obstacles, ground effect, ATC requirments, aircraft type, air temperature and density and runway length.

[linkapus]

@Feuerwaffen with the posky 777-300er whats the speed?

[ducciomoon]

No, sorry artfulsermon, "Approach in minimum" is the minimum decision height to abort landing if runway is not jet visibile due fog.

[tomcatpilot1]

"Approaching Minimums" not "Approach in Minimum" ;)

[1053857]

@ducciomoon "Approching Minimums"

[totallyairplanecrazy]

@ducciomoon Actually it's 'approaching minimums"

[33themax33]

@ducciomoon No, approaching minimums indicates that you are near the minimums (normally +100 ft) so 100ft later you hear "minimums" and that is you minimum decision height ;)

[ccubsfan94]

how do you get to ride in the jumpseat. do you have to know one of the pilots/ first officer?

[tomcatpilot1]

airline pilot for a Part 121 airline (those are the US rules)

[ccubsfan94]

can you go more in depth on that

[Boost2K8]

What are minimums?

And do both pilots take control of the landing or is it only one?

[ccubsfan94]

minimums are basically the plane stating it is low and it tells you how high you are to give you a reference of your landing position. and they both do somewhat. the pilot usually uses the controlling an the co pilot or first officer does the throttle. but in some occasions they do it the other way around

[artfulsermon]

@Boost2K8 The minimums are the safe aproaching speed that the plane can hang in the air before stalling. 20-30 knots below can cause a stall. And only one pilot lands the plane not both.

[jjtc100]

only one flys the plane

[Gidien2000]

@Boost2K8 One may control the throttle while the other one focuses on flying it, but it's usually just one while the other handles atc comms. (I think)

[PhantomBadass]

@Gidien2000 Yeh basically, the responsibillities are split between the two pilots where one is Pilot Flying and the other is Pilot Monitoring, the Pilot Flying will handle only essential systems and all flying related responsibillities i.e. A/P, MCP, FMC and a small portion of the overhead panel. Everything else including ATC communications is left to the Pilot Monitoring. :)

[flyer1981]

minimums are so high b'cos of the surrounding terrain and they spent that long on the runway b'cos they were asked to continue rolling to the next exit.

[SimCrew1]

They spend too long taxiing on the runway after landing

[iiHaRRyY]

It really depends when an aicraft lands they are givin instructions in which taxiway to take or even just "Exit Runway When Able". The technical name for taxiing down the runway after landing is called rolling.

[PilotUTA]

@SimCrew1 no not at all. theres no such thing as too long on a runway. It's all about when the captain determines it is safe to exit the runway. While this was a long landing roll, they were likely asked to taxi to the end of the runway by ATC. any number of reasons (not necessarily the case in this vid.) can be a factor in a long roll including, a closed taxi way, an aircraft blocking a given taxiway, etc.

[SimCrew1]

Why does it say the minimums are so high?

[gamepro325]

that IS odd.... usually its after 500

[SimCrew1]

Its usually about 230

[HarryTheFlightGuy]

Yes i agree it is very expensive to do all the training but its a rewarding caree. Im no training for Ryanair in the 737-800

[Brnxkid653]

Why is there a horn sound before landing?

[royalmail22]

its whe they disconnect autopilot

[PilotUTA]

@Brnxkid653 the horn sounds because the autopilot is disconnected.

[brownhairdboii]

how did this guy get in here i swear ur not aloud to go in cockpit after 9/11

[lapacman26]

I agree with DaveWBedford.Every one seems to know it all on youtube.

[joel9]

well u have to be clever but u don't have to be a nerd

[Mp5xPAISLEYxMp5]

I would go with your opinion, i was a general student and doing not so bad. I was not a nerd, but i managed to become a pilot.

[fsxpilotguy]

do you llike hav to be s nerd in high skool to becum a pilot

[B757204]

You need to be relitavely good at Maths & Science but not brilliant.

No qualifications are needed to become an Airline Pilot, but the training will be easier and more airlines will want you if you have them.

Work hard at school.

The only thing thats needed is being able to pass a Medical and Determination

[mickderkskouta]

Ohh and 150 000$....

And yes you can go to the bank for that but its a gamble and it comes with great risks

[crazypilot123]

Geeze... I don't know what country you live in but you can get your GFPT, PPL, CPL, instrument rating, ATPL theory and an instructor rating for around $60,000- $70,000 here in Australia...

[mickderkskouta]

that's so cheap! I live in the netherlands, the costs for a full pilot education are always around 100k$> here in Europe..

[uploader1010]

nice, why wansn't the gpws making callouts between 500 and 50 ft ?

[avemariascott]

it would get kindof annoying

[uploader1010]

lol

[CMore2324]

Hello I fly a 737-200 and I don't know why some people just guess about the funtion of the aircrat... In this airplane you taxi with control wheel on the captain side and after landing you don't use it until you've to exit the runway, for take off you just use the rudder that deflects the nose whell about 7 degrees just enogh to mantain the aircraft in the runway. with the control wheel you can turn the wheel about 78 degrees.

[crazypilot123]

It's called the tiller handle

[yohan01]

Great video!

thanks for the posting

[klocknerdeutz]

Braking can be done on either side, the rudder pedals swivel forward for braking.

You put the airplane on the runway with the tiller wheel (only on captain's side) and then on takeoff you just use the rudders to maintain direction, and once you're in the air you never touch the rudders again till landing.

[manchesterbob92]

unless your in a crosswind condition you have to use rudder in the air some times

[klocknerdeutz]

In the air you don't use rudder for crosswind conditions. You'll always have some crosswind up high. Only when you have to straighten the nose on landing in crosswind, you use them again. I sometimes touch them by accident in the air and it's way too powerful.

[Captainindiada]

ah ok i see, thanks..you sound like your a pilot or something?

[klocknerdeutz]

Yes I am :) on the 737-800.

[DaveWBedford]

Don't be silly! Everyone watching an aviation video on Youtube is a pilot! I wonder how any planes get flown sometimes with all these airline pilots sitting watching videos on youtube.

[crazypilot123]

Are mentally fucked up or something...?

[swa5297]

crazypilot123, it was sarcasm dumbass. And that sentence made no sense whatsoever.

[gamepro325]

lol that is so true im not a pilot but i know these things because of simulators i know how to do all this stuff but im not a certified pilot

[IslandWorshipper]

You NEVER touch the rudders again?

You're talking about a perfect flying day right?

[klocknerdeutz]

yep, only on landing....

[crazypilot123]

No, he's talking about NEVER EVER during the flight... Perfect day or not. Ever heard of yaw damper...?

[Renatodonadio]

Turns can be done also by raising one of the engines

[DVA0670]

yea true

[Renatodonadio]

Probably that actually brakes one of the rear wheels when rudder is not airborne, so that the aircraft turns "pinpoint" on the locked wheel.

[crazypilot123]

No. The top part of the rudder is for brakes and the whole thing is just for rudder in puts whether your in the air or not.

[DJAntonetti]

No monster... when on the ground pilots taxi using the rudder pedals. Left Rudder for left and right rudder for right and both pushed together will brake the wheels.

[crazypilot123]

And the tiller handles......

[themonster75]

when the plane started to taxi in the pilots didn't even touch the yoke!

[ryanabert]

That is because pilots control the aircraft by the rudder pedals when on the ground.

[themonster75]

don't they taxi by turnin' the yoke?

[jbboudrey]

No in fact on the 737 as on many other airliners once under 80 Knots you taxi the aircraft using a little wheel on the left side . This little wheel is like a handle that you use to taxi on the ground up to +/- 80 knots which is the speed when you can use the rudders . Before 80 knots you don't use them because they are not efficient enough to maintain horizontal control due to the lack of speed .

Regards

[crazypilot123]

Yes and the tiller handle as well.

[braneden]

isnt the third guy supposed to be helping fly too not holding the camera or no.

[crazypilot123]

That third guy is just a visitor. there are only 2 pilots in the cockpit. sometimes on really long flights they might have a releif pilot.

[crazypilot123]

Has anyone seen the go flight cockpit videos?? It's in 3 parts. if u have, what happened to them they're not there

[u124202]

Nice one buddy! Not as good as mine in MAN hehehe!!!

[crazypilot123]

Kool video! I love the B738.

[joshuamckee]

that was fast landing

[flyer1981]

no, its a British charter airline, XL Airways

[wstocker]

what airline is this? Is it COPA?

[paulstorey84]

Good one Stu