Effect of the Wing Chun Punch with Xingyi principles

[SifuWongShunLeung]

Yes...you are a good...

[Elfrania]

@SifuWongShunLeung Are you really Sifu Wong S.L. or just having similar names? :D

[Ankoku15]

Good power! but try not to lean and enter using your footwork instead of reaching, you should be able to slam that bag against the wall with proper form!

[TheAstoria88]

Good Punch... i believe you could do it better if your back is Straighten up. don't bow, it wil reduce the Chi power. Greetings from Wing Chun Lover! @elfrania who is your sifu?

[Elfrania]

Hi @TheAstoria88, for the reason of my injury, I have to adjust to avoid the forces from passing through parts of my body, and indeed, the power is lessen because of that. It's just to demonstrate the difference even under a disadvantageous situation. I have several shifu(s), some of them wish to remain anonymous, as they do not want to be known as part of the martial society.

[TheAstoria88]

@Elfrania well, it was just a suggestion as a wingchun lover, coz i believe no matter how great we are, we still need suggestion. hehe! nice to know you though! i am from SamKwok Lineage, and greetings from Wing Chun Lover :)

[Elfrania]

Thank you @TheAstoria88. Please do send me your thoughts. I am looking and gathering for ideas. We can discuss more via inbox.

[TheAstoria88]

@Elfrania I cannot make any thoughts if you are not making more video, and also, i am still practicing a.k.a beginner, just becoz i always ask suggestion from sihung Samuel Kwok, so that i know the basic principles.,but,, anyway, let me know if you need something! :),

[LoneSoul4ever]

@Elfrania good punch, but it seems that in order to deliver this punch effectively, one would need time to concentrate and then wait for the right timing to throw it. How do u use it against a moving target who is also waiting to throw punches at you? I'm not a wing chun practitioner because where I live I could not find a sifu. Anyways, I had engaged in sparrings with a few wing chun practitioners and easilly defeated them with MMA fighting skills.

[Elfrania]

@LoneSoul4ever We can't wait for the right moment. The moment is anticipated, what is demonstrated is only physics of launching a strike. When to use it depends on the practitioner. The question of anticipation depends on the experience. My shifu once said, we have less than 7 secs to know the opponent, but within the ambush, we have none. It is just as the same as drawing a bow on a moving target, when will you draw on multiple targets? When will you release the arrows?

[Elfrania]

@LoneSoul4ever I agree that there is not many good fighters, perhaps they are not well-schooled. MMA itself is a misnomer. Most ancient arts itself had been mixed. The UFC MMA, perhaps is the 1 u mentioned, is never tested in the battlefields. If you read martial history, the dead becomes the testimony of bad forms of martial arts. There is a reason how these forms survived the bloodbath of the battlefields for centuries.

[Elfrania]

@LoneSoul4ever I recommend Grandmaster Gary Lam if you can meet him. He teaches more than mere fighting. He teaches how we may use the same principles in life. A good martial art excels you beyond the ring or battlefield. There is a larger ground outside, and it's a tough one. It's called 'life'. My students excel both in combat rings and life, I hope you can understand how to leverage the same. There is a difference between fighting art and martial art. It's a grand difference.

[PHANTOMZ0NE]

It looks like the punching is done almost entirely with the body and the fist being only the point of contact.

[Elfrania]

@PHANTOMZ0NE Excellent. You got 1 of the main parts. The principle is to "speak to the body" to pack that power behind that punch. We load the body mass, and the difficulty is in delivering it only at the point of contact. The inertia returns as a back propulsion. I am discussing with my students if the return reaction may cause certain injuries to the body. This is especially a consideration for aging people.

[MrVaxlVang]

Very nice. No hating here. I do the same concept but different way then yours. You look like you know your stuff. I enjoy watching other persons techniques. Thank you.

[Amanultra]

@elfrania I thank you in advance.

[Amanultra]

I must say I love physics as much as martial arts. I have taken a few lessons in wing chun and have been practicing the little I know for a while. I cannot afford it but I love the scientific study of martial arts and I greatly appreciate this gentleman for his efforts to further that study.

[Elfrania]

@Amanultra I teach at no charge. If I am in US, I would be happy to impart you the skills.

[griqs]

@Elfrania :o if you ever come to the us could you train me? where are you located at? china, if so imma go there one day to learn. and then i could just come to you.

[Elfrania]

@griqs Let's discuss this gradually. I was in States, and had taught at no charge. My only request is for students to study hard and make themselves excellent people to succeed in life, and reform humanity from its current backward state. My school teaches beyond simplistic combat, it makes anyone, faster, stronger, smarter and, most importantly, kinder. There are a lot of work to in my classes, and they are not merely physically training, you have to be prepared for that.

[ndrwplussine]

@Amanultra its more biology than physics

[Elfrania]

@ndrwplussine, Biomechanics.

[Elfrania]

Hi @aroundWorld365days,

I have left US now, however, I may be back later. My student replies on my behalf sometimes on martial matters. I am also teaching in different parts of the world at no charges (I have free teaching units set up globally). My only requirement is that students must work hard on their character, and have the will to dare to push the human race forward towards a more progressive civilization which we think we are not living in one yet.

[MichaelTrystorm]

i wish there was a wing chun school near me:(But until i move to a bigger city ill be taking karate taekwondo and aikido:)im purple belt in taekwondo green belt in karate and 6th kyu in aikido but id give all up just to learn wing chun

[Elfrania]

Hi @MichaelTrystorm,

I was also doing other forms until, I met some old teachers who gave me a paradigm shift. I would also recommend you to try taiji, though its application is the hardest, according to personal experience.

[MichaelTrystorm]

@Elfrania hmmm ill look into that:),ty

[darkdrake13]

@MichaelTrystorm all knowledge is useful, dont give up anything, keep practicing till the day comes when you'll be able to learn wing chun, it'll be easier for you since you'll be an experienced martial artist.

[tallset2]

Guy in the video looks young as hell. Probably 30 years old.

[Elfrania]

@tallset2 Would it surprise you to say that he is in his late 30's? It was just a casual demo for his students. He had shown a more powerful striking demo in his classes. He teaches with no charge, but he's more a martial philosophy teacher, and he picks his students based on character and merits.

[aublitius]

TEACH ME!!!!!!

[Elfrania]

@aublitius You may wish to read the comments and commentaries posted. Currently, he's a mathematician and scientist. You can post in the inbox, he checks that sometimes.

* Note: He would prefer students to have a background or interest in physics.

[sangtawon]

Your motion and method of generating power is very similar to Bak Mei. I'd recomend looking into it if you have a nearby school. Check their lineage and dont go by youtube. Lineage is very important in Bak Mei. It's technically important in all martial arts, but especially Bak Mei.

It may helo you get a grasp on the idea if you can find a legitimate school.

[Elfrania]

@sangtawon Very good observation.

[Elfrania]

Martial Benevolence is a movement to influence the central value of martial arts - justice.Everyone who believes in bringing better persons to this world should focus on intellectual and humanitarian concerns to solve real world problems. Every martial artists should refine themselves and others in making an egoless and caring society. We make people stronger, faster, smarter and - kinder.This is the martial justice we must uphold.Ego is poison.Pride is pollution.They are the cancer to humanity.

[sickness324]

@Elfrania Very inspiring. I totally agree.

[WingChunHard]

@Elfrania we are actualy loosing the biggest fight to humanity: peace

[Elfrania]

@WingChunHard I guarantee to you, that not a single day goes by, that I am not working on this.



[WingChunHard]

@Elfrania good to know there are soldiers in the same camp as i

[grazzsm0ker]

@Elfrania u need to get rid of the media then, but thats not gona happen

[grumpyae86]

@Elfrania Thank You Wong Fei Hung

[whiplashlightning]

@Elfrania well said.

[SteveYangChannel]

OH DAMN!



[henochtheman]

I have 3 thing to say to you.

1. Thanks för the video:)

2. You and Bruce lee are the only ones that did not cheat while doing the one inch punch.

3. How on earth did you do that? Where, how and by who did you learn that?

Please respond:)

[dung159]

@henochtheman Actually what i know about xingyi is they inhale first and exhale and hit at the same time. Wing chun is you relaxed your fist without tighten it when come in contact than you tighten up your fist and hit it at the same time to generate more power and uses lesser strength to produce it.

[sickness324]

@dung159 I actually practice Wing Chun. Would it be a problem if I put my 2 cents in? I think you're right but there's a bit more to it. The One Inch Punch and the Wing Chun punch don't use much muscle. They rely heavily, if not, totally on body structure. Because the fist acts like a nail, the elbow in front of the body and behind the wrist utilizes the body structure to create a hammer and nail affect. This makes the style easy for women to learn as it uses little muscle.

[Elfrania]

Hi @henochtheman

I had several teachers guiding me, the method was derived from mainly Xingyi and WingChun. The mechanisms are worked upon on Newtonian physics. I hope to bring enthusiasts to support the Martial Scientists Movement, I am working with some students to find ways to investigate on multi-folding striking power. Most importantly, this is part of Martial Benevolence, to refine people into focusing on intellectual and humanitarian concerns to solve real world problems.

[henochtheman]

@Elfrania Thanks for the answer. I tried this and it actually worked! But it felt like I was pushing it as well as striking. Did I do something wrong?

I probably can not help you, since my only knowledge within physics is different forms of energy and basic light and acoustic.

Ps. What does Martial Benevolence mean?

[Elfrania]

Hi @henochtheman,

There are 2 indicators to benchmark if u may have done it correctly.

1. There has to be a loud bang sound. (unless u can move in the speed of light to break the bag before the air pressure can change). You can't produce a penetrating impact with a bang if u are pushing it.

2. Check with a video (u can see the sudden withdrawal of my strike).The impact is sudden,a push is seen if contact force stays for a long time.This would be clearly visible.

Could u please send me a video?

[henochtheman]

@Elfrania @Elfrania I was not capable to make a video of me punching a bag, but I can say that this video is not the only source of information that I had to learn this punch. I have read about 10 articles about the wing chun punch and seen about five other videos about it as well, but only practiced for about 10 minuets. I have not mastered it, but it is better than all my other punches. I was not pushing the bag, but punching it did hurt my hand after a while.

[Elfrania]

@henochtheman Very good, henochtheman. It'll take about 2 years. My most talented student, with a strong background of physics, took 1.5 years. Yes, punching the bag does hurt the arm, as it is an avenue of force transmission. If you push the bag, there will not be a loud 'bang' impact, as the force is exerted on a single point for a very short time.

[Elfrania]

@henochtheman, I would be very amazed if u could derive the principles from the observation of this video n the comments I made,as well as to be able to orchestrate ur body to master the dynamics.My smartest student took 1.5 year to get part of the effect,he so obsessed about mastering this, he took every chance to reflect on it - whether on the bus or during meals.He had strong physics background n I adjusted him for several months to align the forces n he got the feel of the projections.

[thach8salem8]

That Like my style - :x

[Elfrania]

@SyncTheInternet We can discuss along the way. It shouldn't be too difficult. Currently, I am trying to draw attention to the work done by Dr Sheila Patek. You may wish to read the paper, Claverie, T., Chan, E. and Patek, S. N. (2011). Modularity and scaling in fast movements: power amplification in mantis shrimp. Evolution 62, 443-461.

If we can derive some insights from this, we may be able to unlock the physics of a formidable striking power. Let me know your thoughts.

[Elfrania]

@SyncTheInternet I am also looking for people who may be interested in helping us to drive forward a movement which I set up with my students years ago. Currently, we are evolving it into a pragmatic philosophical and scientific movement. It's what I termed as martial scientist movement. The end result is a cleaner, kinder and smarter pugilistic world.

[Elfrania]

@SyncTheInternet, You got it. It's all in the physics.

Martial arts teach us to think in terms of paradox, because the universe is filled with them, as well because our perception is not somehow not well evolved to grasp the idea of how the laws work.

Every time, I begin to understand some lore in martial arts, I begin to understand physics in a deep level, and vice versa. I have been actively working on getting martial artists to study science, and perhaps possibly pursue it academically.

[Zelgraz1]

only the ones who understand power get this...

[LLexP]

pretty good... it was well done

[rajdts]

do u hav any books on dis...i seriously wanna learn WING TSEN

[Elfrania]

@rajdts I can send you a book.

[Elfrania]

@rajdts 1 of my students is in India, let me know if you are keen to learn. I can see if I can arrange for him to teach you free-of-charge.

[rajdts]

@Elfrania oh,.,,,really

im a student..it will b cool if u post me any book!!

[sotorarroz]

man i would love to punch like that, how can i learn ? i can sense real power in the punch...

[Elfrania]

@sotorarroz you may like to start with understanding the Wing Chun concepts which implicate principles of biomechanics. I spent many hours reading physics and human anatomy itself even before getting to this stage. The method I used is modified from Wing Chun, XingYi and Bakua principles (I believed some1 else might have also figured it as well). U'vb to orchestrate the entire body to pack all that power in 1 single punch. If just 1 breath is wrong or 1 twitch is misaligned, the power is leaked.

[sotorarroz]

@Elfrania i am a brown belt karate... i can understand what you are saying because besides a karate punch is not so strong like that, if it is not align with the shoulders and back muscles, the power is leaked also. but you project the bag with low effort. what is the tecnic behind that, and what basic theories do you recommend me ?

[Elfrania]

@sotorarroz

1. power rise from the ground

2. the arms are the weakest, project the power from your body instead, every inch u move must be a burst (u have to breath in the way like u'r "pulling the bow to launch the arrow")

3. the body must be seamless (this part is abit difficult to explain)

4. never lock ur arms, the biceps are the "brakes", again power comes from synchronizing all joints to transfer the power into 1 single projection (make sure ur power does not leak from the joints)

[angeriod]

@Elfrania very well you described what my master trys to tell me. a wing chun master would destroy mike tyson.

[Elfrania]

@sotorarroz

5. focus 6 inches behind the target, do not let ur force spread over the surface

6. ensure that the punch does not travel more than 6 inches, and launch from the heart in a straight line (a common punch is a like swinging bat, a kungfu strike is akin a straight hammer from a rifle butt)

7. ur body must never be rigid before the strike or transition, like the arm, ur body must not be "locked down" during the launching

[sotorarroz]

@Elfrania so the body is always relaxed since the beginning of the movement, and the contraction of muscles and alignment of joints only happens in the instant immediately before of impact ?

[Elfrania]

@sotorarroz yes, you'r right.

[TheRelentlez]

@Elfrania so basically its zhuan ma + chong quan?

[mcdrummonkey]

@Elfrania amazing power in your punches! im lookin to take a kind of martial arts i want to learn how to hit harder and fast and how to take blows can u recommend any kind of martial arts for me please

[hazardkamal]

Pfffffffffffffffff......since when do you punch like that in yongchun?

[Elfrania]

@hazardkamal you don't. I modified it. The stance is not WingChun, it's part of "半步崩寸", half step bursting inch. I combined certain principles. It's Wing Chun Punch with Xingyi principles. The subtle elbow tucked in to deter power loss is the basis of WingChun's. This differs from common striking used in western boxing. However, since I am not a grandmaster, the theory cannot be accepted to be complete.

[hazardkamal]

@Elfrania Oh now i understand...as you may have seen on my teabag video..i live in china and been doing 咏春 for 3 years now so you may understand my confuse...I dont know much about Xingyi..i'll google and wikipedia..but thanks for clearing my doubt.

[gorfjorf2112112]

Effective short distance striking doesn't belong just to Wing Chun. Pretty much all Chinese kung fu has it. And maybe some other martial arts too.

[Elfrania]

@gorfjorf2112112 yes, this is true.

[shioku21]

Hey, what is some good reading I can do for Taiji?? Great video and punches by the way!! Wing Chun for life!!

[Elfrania]

@shioku21 Taiji is much more difficult. 1 of the good combat taiji I know is by Dr Yang. He focuses on Taiji Qin Na.

The best way is to look for really good teachers. Sometimes, language is an issue. Usually, some grand teachers and masters don't speak much English, and in translation, the meaning can be lost.

[shioku21]

@Elfrania

Wow!! Thank you so much!! I am definitely going to study this!!!

[sniperzealot]

sorry, i think that the last punch looks the strongest is because it is when you actually worked on your pivot from your lower body to your punch... a principle of a basic punch

[Elfrania]

@sniperzealot There are 12 principles in ancient striking. The last punch was 1 inch burst. The Wing Chun punch was supposed to be locked down with minimal pivot, rather a fulcrum was used, and Xingyi uses a coordinated superposition of forces. It's all matter of common basic physics.

[NapoleonLenker]

@Elfrania could you tell me more about the superpositioning of the body and how the arm relates to the torso as a fulcrum and minimizing pivot. I feel like I know what you mean from experience, but am trying to break down the fundamentals to better generate power. Any new insights would help.

-Napoleon

[Elfrania]

@NapoleonLenker It's simple physics yet there are many details in it, we can speak offline. The key is to feel for the alignment of forces 1st, the body must synchronized with each other. 1 misalignment, and the energy is 'leaked'. There is a fair amount of control during the direction of the forces, yet rooting and drawing from the ground poses the dilemma of stability with mobility. Never do fast when tuning the power, only when it becomes part of you, then you accelerate.

[kazesamurai1000]

that was cool, good on ya!

[Elfrania]

@kazesamurai1000 Thank you for your encoruagement, kazesamurai1000. My aim for imparting the art to my students is to motivate them to understand physics, and to imbue the mentality that brute force does not connote fully utilized direction of energy. In most mechanical systems today, the efficiency is hardly 70% of the energy issued. I hope that my students may come to understanding of ways to solve problems in life, and in their designs, in the most educated and elegant ways.

[kwang0429]

keep your back straight and don't move your shoulder when you punch, you move the horse to punch instead.

[Elfrania]

Hi @kwang0429, it's not a horse nor goat stance used, it's Xingyi burst principle modified for Wing Chun inch strike.

For Wing Chun application, the shoulders do not move at all, it's locked down. This is not very well-known somehow. Your remarks shows that you have studied alot in Wing Chun.

[kwang0429]

@Elfrania yes, I have studied wing chun for over 6 years. xiao nien tao alone took me a whole year to learn to get the good foundation down.

[Elfrania]

@kwang0429, xiao3 nian4 tou2 will take at least 1 year for a good understanding. It took me awhile to understand some intricacies, ie. how certain structures are designed for "launching" certain vectoral strikes, or how certain geometrical considerations are covered in the design of the form. For my case, I understand some of these details after working with some teachers in taiji, ba gua and xingyi. Perhaps, this is what the chinese meant by "温故知新" (gain new insights by revising fundamentals).

[Hotora86]

Great, now show me some WC in MMA.

[Elfrania]

@Hotora86 Hi, If you notice Anderson Silva in his career has incorporated many wing chun principles into his traditional Muay Thai techniques, especially evident in his fight against Patrick Cote and Thales Laites (the push kicks to the knee). He also uses the wing chun hand trapping technique (as correctly pointed out by Joe Rogan) but this may be more for confusing his opponent.

[Hotora86]

@Elfrania The same principles can be found in Karate and TKD. Anderson using those arts is more plausible since he trained TKD as a kid and never trained Wing Chun in his life.

[Elfrania]

@Hotora86 Similar perhaps in certain aspects, thought Karate and TKD does not address triangle principle which is unique and used to be family-kept secrets in certain ancient arts. It is true to say that many people are beginning to address this, not in striking, but in locking. Thank you for pointing out the fact that Anderson never trained in WC. There may be discrepancies in commentaries as this account is an accrual advisory of different advisors. MMA aspects was given by another advisor.

[Anandfulness]

@Hotora86 ; WC focuses less on power and more on speed and target area. This makes wing chun not only dangerous but also highly impractical in competition. Example; Think about how much force you need to punch with gloves to the nose, Now think how much force you need to punch without gloves to the throat. This is the difference between competition-minded martial sports and non-competition martial arts. Main difference is target area so the techniques are adapted to this.

[Hotora86]

@Anandfulness Karate is mainly self-defense oriented, relies more on speed than power and focuses on specific target areas - similarly to WC - but it has been successfully used in all forms of kickboxing including K-1. Some Karate fighters have even found success in MMA - using a traditional stance and specific target areas (watch Katsunori Kikuno deliver his crescent kick to the liver). Some techniques from TKD and Sanda are also used effectively.

So why does WC fail where other TMAs succeed?

[Anandfulness]

@Hotora86 ; As I've said, WC is fully reliant on these target areas. Take those target areas away and you're left with a broken system. Compared with those martial arts you've said, wc focused more on speed. You can see it in the stances. Karate, Sanda and TKD always have (predictable) stances where the backhand and foot are for power techniques. In my own kickbox practice this was a known concept. In traditional kung fu, they try to take this predictability away, leaving you with reduced power.

[Anandfulness]

@Hotora86 ; So the great advantage wc has is unpredictability and increased speed. But the BIG disadvantage is reduced power and full reliance on weak target areas. That's why Wing Chun will never do good in modern competitions. The focus on throat punches and groinkicks is too great. And furthermore, wing chun is just a very difficult martial art. Kickboxing was easier in my opinion. But that's just me.

[Hotora86]

@Anandfulness Thank you for the detailed answer. I think you hit the nail on the head there. There's just one more thing that I'd add. Because of this reliance on weak targets in WC modern competition and almost any form of full-contact sparring is impossible. This makes WC an even harder art to learn and perfect since it cannot be safely practiced with full force. Thus we come to the Kano paradox - "safe" techniques practiced full force defeat "dangerous" techniques never practiced full force.

[Anandfulness]

@Hotora86 ; You are correct, a lot of schools do not practice full contact sparring. This is a big mistake in my opinion. They think that chi sao (sticky hands) and light contact sparring is the best way to practice. In schools of other traditional kung fu styles they practice full contact with face-, throat- and groin-protectors. I think that this is much better for realistic training... I think Wing Chun is a good system but the fact that they do not spar full contact troubles me...

[TREXZ]

@Hotora86

I completely agree with you wing chun is way too deadly to spar at 100% with. Every technique is design to cause great harm like breaking a bone, hurting internal organs, or gouging your eyes out. I think chi sao is a better way to spar in wing chun. Its not like karate or boxing.

[Elfrania]

@TREXZ The unfortunate part is that somewhat most martial education did not make clear about.

Some native fighters judges if a fighter is good with belt systems, some with points system, some with how much muscle mass the fighter has, some with how much glamour he has or how much money he earns, some with the kinds of fancy moves and flips he makes.

I judge the technical abilities of a fighter on his ability to kill, and his ability to restrain himself from doing so.

[TREXZ]

@Elfrania I can understand that too, you don't seem much performance on wing chun performance on tv because it doesn't look good based on the majority of the people's thoughts about it. However, it is very deadly. I think they don't have wing chun fighters in UFC for this reason..or maybe its not spread out enough yet. I pretty much judge how good of a fighter someone is by how fast they can get the job done..by the way how long did it take you to develop 1 inch punch?

[Elfrania]

@TREXZ Many arts have been blood-tested in the battlefields, and in civil revolution. People who don't know the history may say that it's impractical based on the poor practitioners they have seen. UFC fighters' techniques are amateurish, I can;t understand why they are termed as 'masters', but 1 thing for sure, they trained professionally.

Most fighters I met don't train the traditional way. Many of my students these days don't work hard enough too.

[halfassedfart]

@Elfrania They aren't masters of martial arts, they're simply bloody good athletes. You can generate staggering amounts of power by that alone, and it suffices for their purposes. There's many of them who just bullshit based on their physical ability. Shane Carwin, for one, is one of those blokes who're simply gifted with very heavy hands, and he can get away with shit technique and arm punching because of that.

[Elfrania]

@TREXZ Thence, I am no longer training students, I merely conduct classes.

It took me 2 years to figure out the 1 inch punch. I believe there is more to it.

I also modified my classes to study geometry and physics after I began to be able to apply the theories. Lately, I am also looking for students who may be conversant with biomechanics for further studies.

[TREXZ]

@Elfrania where do you teach i just started studying wing chun and i am in love with this art.....i just think theres something more to it compared with other styles because its the only style created by a woman...

[Elfrania]

@TREXZ I am teaching in Texas, US. Currently, I am teaching at no charges. However, I require my students to be committed to refine their character,& to be activistic in social emancipation, ie. such as to give succor to the poor & ill, and to educate and motivate delinquents. I used to teach in Germany as well.

Wing Chun was smartly designed indeed. History hinted that it may be the invention of a council which Nun Ng Mui was part of. She later named her student after the council - Wing Chun.

[carnienatas]

Yes Fa-jin also incorporates the "shaking" or "vibration" of the hips and body to expunge all Qi,Chi,Ki,Prana and so on out the body to your opponent and send shockwaves through them. But doesn't boxing do this also unknowingly? I took up boxing for a while and after quitting i found out i already knew how to do this technique,its what you use to come out of a break and knock a bitch out!

[Elfrania]

@carnienatas boxing has evolved since it's primordial irish form. boxers has learnt to used their waist, and project their punch, however the structure does not follow adhere to the laws of triangles.

The Wing Chun strikes has several principles. Forming the triangles gives stability to the execution even before the launch. Fa-jin is an internal management, this concept does not address structures directly. The 2 concepts can be combined, of course, to create an impact.

[AARONBOEYKHG]

can you show us the blocking technique,please

[Elfrania]

Hi Aaron,

please allow sometime, as I am having some injury relapse for the moment. I will keep you posted for sure. ; )

I am also waiting for your Mong Yan Jong's demo. : )

[zionlion777]

So in wing chung the force is generated from the hips versus in the shoulders in a regular style strike? It looks as though you are producing power from pivoting your base instead of rotational torque at the shoulders that is generated from a common boxing strike.

[Elfrania]

力从地起

[zionlion777]

I am guessing mandarin or cantonese, yet unfortunately I speak neither.

[Elfrania]

I have sent some explanatory notes to you via the utube inbox. it is important to study the cultural philosophy, because the way the chinese think or structure their thoughts allows them to model and conceptualize in a certain manner which may form a foundation for discovery or development.

[zionlion777]

Unfortunately I didn't recieve the notes. Please resend. Youtube has been really sketchy as of late. Many messages and comments I have posted recently have'nt been showing up. I am eager to read what you are going to send though. Thank you friend.

[yin0625]

@Elfrania

it's the basic concept of most martial arts

[Elfrania]

yin0625 is correct.

The way it is taught is different. I was surprised to have found out that the true essence of it is only expounded in detail in a few forms. Most teachers doesn't seem to address it well or certain schools omit/ neglected the concept. It is very important to teach and represent it in the right way.

Particularly, some cultures express certain things more well-structured than others, especially in certain science(s).

[jkdpupil71]

I have done some boxing, then wing chun, and now jeet kune do for 5 years. Center line punching with proper body mechanics has such tremendous speed and power. The centerline, vertical fist chain punching also has a lot of penetration to its force. The punch goes deep into the target blowing them back and knocking the air out of them. Its very powerful and internal.

[Elfrania]

Indeed, jkdpupil71, all the more we have to becareful when we execute the strike on our opponents. We may be giving more than what is intended.

Wing Chun was very smart, she found the technique that could optimized the power of the body to launch that power. Imagine a petite lady then who rendered that strike.

The principle is also similar to some particular strikes in Xing Yi and Taiji. It took me several years to figure that out.

[jkdpupil71]

I have noticed that too. I see a lot of similarities with wing chun and fa jing or taiji and the internal arts. I worked in jail and had one of the local cops telling me what I studied was worthless. He volunteered to let me tap him in the chest. I even let him keep his Kevlar vest on. And I still knocked him 3 feet back and took the wind out of him.

[DSotWall]

Great vid. I'd like to see more of this kind of demos.

[Elfrania]

Thanks, DSotWall, I am however reluctant to do instructional vids for attacks.

Nonetheless, I may do 1 later for blocking/ defense. I developed a technique for blocking fast and heavy kicks. Most people get kicked, especially near the head attempting to block such attacks. Can you guess why?

In 1 of my combat experience, while blocking such a kick in 1 instance when I could not get out of the way, it nearly knocked me over. Hence, a technique was designed and empirically tested.