Poor conductor and the orchestra. It must be a nightmare - to play with such a soloist who does not has an idea about such a basic thing of a musicianship as rhythm and playing what is in the score - not this rubbish he is doing in all of his performances. This guy is mad.
Also, i dont quite understand the statement that vengerov is somehow inferior to hilary hahn. both are quite brilliant, so it simply comes down to personal taste and opinion. I would prefer vengerov because of his richer sound, but i must say that its simply, again, a matter of opinion. saying that one is "better" than the other is ridiculous.
The orchestra is so incompetent that even if i were the soloist i would have been annoyed and purposely do some crazy stuff. it sounded like in the end li was indeed irritated, and i don't blame him. some blame li that his notes do not sound clean in this piece. however, i believe that it isn't that big of an issue, since we're talking about sarasate here, not mozart, so in this case, cleanliness isn't the major issue...some notes are just there for the effect.
chuanyun li has his own styles...but i dun like it sometimes altho his technique is vry good...bcoz sometimes it's not clean...n sometimes the timing n the rhythm is incorrect...but i agreed too...the orchestra is not good in accompaniment...is it hongkong sinfonietta?i dunno...by the way...i love vengerov,hahn,midori even,n oso my big idol SARAH CHANG 's version...
the asian woman re too beautiful, i think the musician went flirt them in some bar or department store. Acally the Asianer are serious person i can not understand what happened! : )
It's so painful watching this...the orchestra is just cringe-worthy. Such a pity cuz Chuan Yun is such an awesome violinist and I somehow feel he wasn't very happy playing this with this orchestra either.
YEAH FOR REAL WHAT WAS WITH THOSE PIZZES IN THE BEGINNING? HAH! So much for accompianiment right? Soloist was amazing. Love the rubato. Drama and getting carried away are what makes this piece come alive. I think this is a good example of how it should be done. Too bad for the orchestra. Maybe they only had like one rehearsal. BUT STILL..????
great soloist bad orchestra really! That's the truth. Li Chuanyun is amazing and deserves better. He is just as good as Vengerov or Hahn. He should have a bigger name!
Haha. Yeah. You put Vengerov and Hahn in the same category? It's a shame 'cause she's so amazing and he's so mediocre. Plus, Hahn and Li are on par. They simply have radically different playing styles. Within each's chosen style, each is a master.
poor Chuanyun Li, you had to fight against the difficult piece, and also a stupid conductor who seems not to have listened to the piece before, who is that ? you deserve to play this piece with Andre Previn.
Gil Shaham's rendition is much better, and its not because of this guys accompaniment. Shaham is alot more clean with his playing, and I don't personally like this guys outrageous phrases sometimes. He is a good player though.
yes. he is a great player. However, keep in mind that Gil Shaham is plays...let's say...in a more "standard" manner. Chuanyun Li plays with more feeling..and almost all of his pieces are "emotion-fed" (his technique is also amazing)
Everybody cites Shaham's cleanliness, but I think sometimes his playing lacks fire. It seems like Li Chuanyun sometimes gets bored with playing a piece and so he finds insane ways to phrase. Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't.
totally agree with you! also, the quality of sound, and the orchestra is just pitifull. i've seen him live, and he has the cleanest sound. this piece should be as "dirty" as he does it..c'mon..we've heard enough arpeggio/scale/fat vibrato interpretations, or should i say imitations.
It's sad seen this, do you not think he deserves a too much better orchestra AND CONDUCTOR???, the conductor seems not even knowing the score!!!!, exelent guy too good for this accompaiment.
Anybody knows the orchestro sucks so stop wining about it!
Just admire this godlike violinist = D
SomeAnimeOtaku 1 month ago
oooooo chuanyun li was looking the music from a music stand!! cheater!! haha still one of the best
spiked415 4 months ago
is he tryin' to play like Leila Josefowicz ???? with very bad taste...
Josefowiczfan 1 year ago
Poor conductor and the orchestra. It must be a nightmare - to play with such a soloist who does not has an idea about such a basic thing of a musicianship as rhythm and playing what is in the score - not this rubbish he is doing in all of his performances. This guy is mad.
mkviolin 1 year ago
get it together orchestra!
cablechannel 2 years ago
Conductor and orchestra should be shot. They are the epitome of incompetence.
yimbecile 2 years ago
@yimbecile The soloist is the one to blame for this! This guy couldn't keep a steady beat if his life depended on it.
Rcoppin91 1 year ago
everything in the orchestra comes in late....wtf, ruined a good performance
prayformercy4 2 years ago
Also, i dont quite understand the statement that vengerov is somehow inferior to hilary hahn. both are quite brilliant, so it simply comes down to personal taste and opinion. I would prefer vengerov because of his richer sound, but i must say that its simply, again, a matter of opinion. saying that one is "better" than the other is ridiculous.
narnia1232000 2 years ago 3
yes, somebody finally gets it. good job man!
gnatural 2 years ago
The orchestra is so incompetent that even if i were the soloist i would have been annoyed and purposely do some crazy stuff. it sounded like in the end li was indeed irritated, and i don't blame him. some blame li that his notes do not sound clean in this piece. however, i believe that it isn't that big of an issue, since we're talking about sarasate here, not mozart, so in this case, cleanliness isn't the major issue...some notes are just there for the effect.
narnia1232000 2 years ago
Agree with the orchestra problem, but Chuan always do some crazy stuff with almost every composition he performs. He is great though.
billythekid20 2 years ago
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takafumi2999 2 years ago
hes very unique :->
bobeyun 2 years ago
Regardless, Li is a master!
humourlayers 2 years ago
XDDD
the orchestra needs more practice
art1987 2 years ago
they both don't know what they are doing
the violinist is a vulgar player who mistakes getting around the fiddle for artistry -really pathetic
Jan2ek 3 years ago
YEAH!!! and Bach improvised too much! and Paganini played too fast!
you tell em, brother!...
greasyjeezus 2 years ago
last statement was a reply to mr./ms. jan2ek
greasyjeezus 2 years ago
Dr. Yip Wai Hong get another job!!!!!!!!!
You have to stop conducting right away!!!!
This was unacceptable!
parapar12345 3 years ago
Man the orchestra was WAY off...lol
gaedry 3 years ago 4
chuanyun li has his own styles...but i dun like it sometimes altho his technique is vry good...bcoz sometimes it's not clean...n sometimes the timing n the rhythm is incorrect...but i agreed too...the orchestra is not good in accompaniment...is it hongkong sinfonietta?i dunno...by the way...i love vengerov,hahn,midori even,n oso my big idol SARAH CHANG 's version...
ablents 3 years ago
the asian woman re too beautiful, i think the musician went flirt them in some bar or department store. Acally the Asianer are serious person i can not understand what happened! : )
sandroinbkk 3 years ago
bad orchestra
090gtt 3 years ago
bad orchestra xxcked up everything!
bad recording also need to be blamed
zzfinance 3 years ago
shure, bad orchestra...but thers a
solist without any timing
Aletidus87 3 years ago
It's so painful watching this...the orchestra is just cringe-worthy. Such a pity cuz Chuan Yun is such an awesome violinist and I somehow feel he wasn't very happy playing this with this orchestra either.
AndromedaAiken 3 years ago
Whata fuck is up with this orchestra????even my school orchestra is better...terrible orchestra
amati59 3 years ago
Orchestra is unbelievably terrible. It seems that they're constantly playing catch-up during the entire piece.
I agree about the left hand pizz though, it was a little too articulated.
iSkylla 3 years ago
he walks around when he plays like me~~ hahaa
dxhaloxc 3 years ago
YEAH FOR REAL WHAT WAS WITH THOSE PIZZES IN THE BEGINNING? HAH! So much for accompianiment right? Soloist was amazing. Love the rubato. Drama and getting carried away are what makes this piece come alive. I think this is a good example of how it should be done. Too bad for the orchestra. Maybe they only had like one rehearsal. BUT STILL..????
fiddlinmatt 3 years ago
great soloist bad orchestra really! That's the truth. Li Chuanyun is amazing and deserves better. He is just as good as Vengerov or Hahn. He should have a bigger name!
jeffsmith1800 3 years ago 2
vengerov is a phenomenal soloist and Hahn is completely overated. Li is about infinitely better than Hahn. go figure
black0jackass 3 years ago
vengerov is overated especially when mentioning his name with hahn.
sourmaxxi 3 years ago
Haha. Yeah. You put Vengerov and Hahn in the same category? It's a shame 'cause she's so amazing and he's so mediocre. Plus, Hahn and Li are on par. They simply have radically different playing styles. Within each's chosen style, each is a master.
johntomfoolery 3 years ago
Blasphemy!!!!!!!!!! I've played with both Vengerov and Hahn. Both are top tier musicians and to talk shit on them is just plain wrong.
violatione 3 years ago
BAD ORCHESTRA good Solist !!!!
had9s8888 3 years ago
Very difficult play whit this conductor..and this orchestra! Quote Dostc 100%!!
rebeccalabionda 3 years ago
poor Chuanyun Li, you had to fight against the difficult piece, and also a stupid conductor who seems not to have listened to the piece before, who is that ? you deserve to play this piece with Andre Previn.
dostc 3 years ago
Gil Shaham's rendition is much better, and its not because of this guys accompaniment. Shaham is alot more clean with his playing, and I don't personally like this guys outrageous phrases sometimes. He is a good player though.
sirus804 4 years ago 3
yes. he is a great player. However, keep in mind that Gil Shaham is plays...let's say...in a more "standard" manner. Chuanyun Li plays with more feeling..and almost all of his pieces are "emotion-fed" (his technique is also amazing)
jimqa2 3 years ago
Everybody cites Shaham's cleanliness, but I think sometimes his playing lacks fire. It seems like Li Chuanyun sometimes gets bored with playing a piece and so he finds insane ways to phrase. Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't.
Zhou9 3 years ago 3
totally agree with you! also, the quality of sound, and the orchestra is just pitifull. i've seen him live, and he has the cleanest sound. this piece should be as "dirty" as he does it..c'mon..we've heard enough arpeggio/scale/fat vibrato interpretations, or should i say imitations.
fiberbliss 3 years ago
ya this accompaniment licks nuts...Li Chuanyun is amazing tho
tennisballer17 4 years ago 2
Hmm.. Something is wrong with the accompaniment..
shookie2002 4 years ago 6
It's sad seen this, do you not think he deserves a too much better orchestra AND CONDUCTOR???, the conductor seems not even knowing the score!!!!, exelent guy too good for this accompaiment.
hopffiddleplayer 4 years ago