This guy is so... american. Sound like a catholic. Religion are something personal, Something you keep close to your heart, safe. What he should have said is: What you need to do is go into yourself and find out what you yourself believe. That is the core in Lutheranism. What YOU believe, not what someone wants you to believe. They can help and teach but what you believe is yours. No person believe the same. .That's why God Jesus and the Holy spirit are the only holy things in Lutheranism!
This guy is so... american. Sound like a catholic. Religion are something personal, Something you keep close to your heart, safe. What he should have said is: What you need to do is go into yourself and find out what you yourself believe. That is the core in Lutheranism. What YOU believe, not what someone wants you to believe. They can help and teach but what you believe is yours. No person believe the same. .That's why God Jesus and the Holy spirit are the only holy things in Lutheranism!
This guy is so... american. Sound like a catholic. Religion are something personal, Something you keep close to your heart, safe. What he should have said is: What you need to do is go into yourself and find out what you yourself believe. That is the core in Lutheranism. What YOU believe, not what someone wants you to believe. They can help and teach but what you believe is yours. No person believe the same. .That's why God Jesus and the Holy spirit are the only holy things in Lutheranism!
How different is an Lutheran mass from a catholic mass, Im not too happy with the changes in the church. I know that Catholic, Episcopal, and Lutheran churches are all similar.
There is no god. The mainline protestant churches are shrinking away faster than a pizza in front of Michael Moore. By this man's own admission, the ELCA will be gone by 2050 given the membership trends of the past 30 years. Their parent churches in Scandinavia and Germany and the Baltic have shrunk away to barely 5% of their host populations and now hang on due to tax subsidies, funerals and some vague interest at Christmas in small towns. Mainline Protestantism is going the same way here
@NixonisLord dude go to google and type in "Protestantism is dying." in the google search bar. THE STATISTICS DONT LIE!!!!!! PROTESTANTS ARE F*CKING DYING OUT FASTER THAN POLIO UNDER JONAS SALK!!!!!!
@shmunski101 No argument here; but there will probably be enough ex-catholics and ex-baptists to shore up some of the numbers. But in general, you are right; it's shrinking away faster than the polar ice caps.
Uriah, you must take comfort or get satisfaction from the fact that herpes isn't going away, either. And the cockroaches are doing just fine, too. The persistence of idiocy and tedium do not reflect well on you in particular or our species in general.
Why do I need to waste Sunday mornings and 3-10% of my income to become a better person? Do you know that there are fewer atheists/agnostics in prison than in the general population? That atheist/agnostic populations are more law-abiding and safer than places and cultures "big" on religion? If not, check it out.
Why do I need an identity? Do you think I'm shameless enough to claim tax breaks based on fantasy or that I want to wear weird clothes in public and mince around and get paid for it? I care that you choose to believe because you try to get me to pay for your idiocies in some way or another almost every day.
I missed the point where he explained why he's a Lutheran. He made a case for being Christian. There is an old saying in the Lutheran Church, "If you don't know why you are not Catholic then you won't know why you are Lutheran."
So HOW do you know there's a god in the first place? Did you know that Mainline Protestantism is shrinking away? The Missouri Synod is also shrinking, so it's not the theology or the poltics. Why bother with this church thing? Why should I bother to listen to you?
The Gospel isn't going away, Nixon. Christianity isn't going away. Even then, true atheist cannot exist without theism. That is one of the downfalls of having a belief system based on a negative. Take away what you don't believe and there is no identity. Even then, if there is no God, why should you care that some of us choose to believe there is? Part of being human is the freedom to believe or not believe. If that makes you feel superior, so be it. :-)
For all these atheists, God IS out there! He has proven it to me. On a time when I was a great sinner, God took pity on me. He then commanded me to love and have faith, for God's love and forgiveness is great. He even loves and forgives those who were killed by the death penalty. He's there all right.
So I'm an atheist because of the word "and". You can be nice to your neighbor without having to wear a giant metal X on your chest; if you died by crucifixion, you think you'd like to see crosses everywhere? Do you think Jackie Kennedy would've felt better if we'd all worn rifles around our necks?
"I want to keep my money AND I don't believe in someone I can't see AND I think you and the fundies deserve each other AND I know that you're shrinking away faster than snow in July."
very ethnocentric...I'm sure Buddhists, Hindus, Japanese Shinto, Sikhs and the thousands of different religious faiths all have their own answer. But I'm sure this man believes these non Christians will be punished for eternity in a lake of fire.
@jackooboy1 lol...ok. You tell me, what does the Bible say about not believing in Jesus Christ? Don't pretend that Lutherans, and the rest of the Christian world, do not proscribe to the belief that people burn in hell for eternity. That is not being prejudiced, it is simply an accurate observation based on empirical observation, and written documentation in the Bible. Christians do believe Ghandi is burning in hell, Christians do believe Jesus Christ is the only way too Heaven.
This March, Rev. Jason Cooper (ELCA) in Strawberry Point, Iowa, gave a sermon on the topic of sexual immorality using scripture from the lectionary on 1 Corinthians 10.
...a former church council president approached the microphone and voiced his disagreement...and claimed that Rev. Cooper had violated his "Letter of Call" for stating that the ELCA's new policies oppose God's directive in Scripture.
To read more google: exposing the elca homosexuality Rev. Jason Cooper
I really appreciate Mark's answer. We relate to God by how we relate to our neighbor -- Love the lord your God ... this is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it. You shall love your neighbor as yourself." If you read Martin Luther, he clearly sees that our relationship with God is utterly connected with how we relate to our neighbor. They cannot be seperated.
I disagree with Mark. How we are a Christian is about how we relate to God. Hansen is right how we relate to others is the foundation of being Lutheran. The entire Augsburg Confession is about how we relate to other who agree and disagree with us
@dsillik Really?? The whole AC is about how we relate to each other?? That must be why article IV on justification is considered the chief article because it's all about how we relate to each other. Oh wait that's right justification is about how we relate to God. Do yourself a favor, go through confirmation again.
@dsillik Like I said. Go through confirmation again. Lutheranism is not about how we relate to each other. It is about how we relate to God. Why do you think article IV (Justification) of the AC is considered the chief article? Because it is about how we relate to God.
Horrible answer. Being Lutheran does not begin with how we relate to each other, it begins with how we relate to God; as sinners in need of redemption. Hanson may have at some point known what it means to be Lutheran but he has obviously long since forgotten.
This guy is so... american. Sound like a catholic. Religion are something personal, Something you keep close to your heart, safe. What he should have said is: What you need to do is go into yourself and find out what you yourself believe. That is the core in Lutheranism. What YOU believe, not what someone wants you to believe. They can help and teach but what you believe is yours. No person believe the same. .That's why God Jesus and the Holy spirit are the only holy things in Lutheranism!
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This guy is so... american. Sound like a catholic. Religion are something personal, Something you keep close to your heart, safe. What he should have said is: What you need to do is go into yourself and find out what you yourself believe. That is the core in Lutheranism. What YOU believe, not what someone wants you to believe. They can help and teach but what you believe is yours. No person believe the same. .That's why God Jesus and the Holy spirit are the only holy things in Lutheranism!
TheLordofNorwegians 1 month ago
This guy is so... american. Sound like a catholic. Religion are something personal, Something you keep close to your heart, safe. What he should have said is: What you need to do is go into yourself and find out what you yourself believe. That is the core in Lutheranism. What YOU believe, not what someone wants you to believe. They can help and teach but what you believe is yours. No person believe the same. .That's why God Jesus and the Holy spirit are the only holy things in Lutheranism!
TheLordofNorwegians 1 month ago
Nice
DidacticEno 2 months ago
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How different is an Lutheran mass from a catholic mass, Im not too happy with the changes in the church. I know that Catholic, Episcopal, and Lutheran churches are all similar.
Mauser2012 2 months ago
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TheOldBeef 4 months ago
Good to know.
UnaverageAdam 5 months ago
There is no god. The mainline protestant churches are shrinking away faster than a pizza in front of Michael Moore. By this man's own admission, the ELCA will be gone by 2050 given the membership trends of the past 30 years. Their parent churches in Scandinavia and Germany and the Baltic have shrunk away to barely 5% of their host populations and now hang on due to tax subsidies, funerals and some vague interest at Christmas in small towns. Mainline Protestantism is going the same way here
NixonisLord 5 months ago
@NixonisLord dude go to google and type in "Protestantism is dying." in the google search bar. THE STATISTICS DONT LIE!!!!!! PROTESTANTS ARE F*CKING DYING OUT FASTER THAN POLIO UNDER JONAS SALK!!!!!!
shmunski101 4 months ago
@shmunski101 No argument here; but there will probably be enough ex-catholics and ex-baptists to shore up some of the numbers. But in general, you are right; it's shrinking away faster than the polar ice caps.
NixonisLord 2 months ago
yo dawg i put a video in your video so you can learn about lutheranism while you learn about lutheranism
BillySchaeffer 6 months ago
Uriah, you must take comfort or get satisfaction from the fact that herpes isn't going away, either. And the cockroaches are doing just fine, too. The persistence of idiocy and tedium do not reflect well on you in particular or our species in general.
NixonisLord 6 months ago
Why do I need to waste Sunday mornings and 3-10% of my income to become a better person? Do you know that there are fewer atheists/agnostics in prison than in the general population? That atheist/agnostic populations are more law-abiding and safer than places and cultures "big" on religion? If not, check it out.
NixonisLord 6 months ago
Why do I need an identity? Do you think I'm shameless enough to claim tax breaks based on fantasy or that I want to wear weird clothes in public and mince around and get paid for it? I care that you choose to believe because you try to get me to pay for your idiocies in some way or another almost every day.
NixonisLord 6 months ago
There is no case for the Lutherans, case and point
MaestroInfernus 7 months ago
I missed the point where he explained why he's a Lutheran. He made a case for being Christian. There is an old saying in the Lutheran Church, "If you don't know why you are not Catholic then you won't know why you are Lutheran."
tmaclure3 7 months ago
So HOW do you know there's a god in the first place? Did you know that Mainline Protestantism is shrinking away? The Missouri Synod is also shrinking, so it's not the theology or the poltics. Why bother with this church thing? Why should I bother to listen to you?
NixonisLord 7 months ago
The Gospel isn't going away, Nixon. Christianity isn't going away. Even then, true atheist cannot exist without theism. That is one of the downfalls of having a belief system based on a negative. Take away what you don't believe and there is no identity. Even then, if there is no God, why should you care that some of us choose to believe there is? Part of being human is the freedom to believe or not believe. If that makes you feel superior, so be it. :-)
uriah768ok 8 months ago
There is nothing that comforts my heart like the gospel of Jesus Christ. AMEN!
1kyboard 9 months ago
For all these atheists, God IS out there! He has proven it to me. On a time when I was a great sinner, God took pity on me. He then commanded me to love and have faith, for God's love and forgiveness is great. He even loves and forgives those who were killed by the death penalty. He's there all right.
NeoCorinthian 9 months ago
So I'm an atheist because of the word "and". You can be nice to your neighbor without having to wear a giant metal X on your chest; if you died by crucifixion, you think you'd like to see crosses everywhere? Do you think Jackie Kennedy would've felt better if we'd all worn rifles around our necks?
NixonisLord 11 months ago
"I want to keep my money AND I don't believe in someone I can't see AND I think you and the fundies deserve each other AND I know that you're shrinking away faster than snow in July."
NixonisLord 11 months ago
Im Catholic but this is a profound message not only on why becoming Lutheran or Christian but becoming better human being... Amen!
mariatinaza 1 year ago
very ethnocentric...I'm sure Buddhists, Hindus, Japanese Shinto, Sikhs and the thousands of different religious faiths all have their own answer. But I'm sure this man believes these non Christians will be punished for eternity in a lake of fire.
HelloWalterSobchak 1 year ago
@HelloWalterSobchak I would invite you to contact Bishop Hanson on this, you might be surprised!
motstraumen 1 year ago
@HelloWalterSobchak How do you know... Seems you may be a little pre-judgmental.
jackooboy1 1 year ago
@jackooboy1 lol...ok. You tell me, what does the Bible say about not believing in Jesus Christ? Don't pretend that Lutherans, and the rest of the Christian world, do not proscribe to the belief that people burn in hell for eternity. That is not being prejudiced, it is simply an accurate observation based on empirical observation, and written documentation in the Bible. Christians do believe Ghandi is burning in hell, Christians do believe Jesus Christ is the only way too Heaven.
HelloWalterSobchak 1 year ago
@HelloWalterSobchak Who or what is Jesus Christ?
jackooboy1 1 year ago
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Fuck Lutheranism!
beatlefied70 1 year ago
This March, Rev. Jason Cooper (ELCA) in Strawberry Point, Iowa, gave a sermon on the topic of sexual immorality using scripture from the lectionary on 1 Corinthians 10.
...a former church council president approached the microphone and voiced his disagreement...and claimed that Rev. Cooper had violated his "Letter of Call" for stating that the ELCA's new policies oppose God's directive in Scripture.
To read more google: exposing the elca homosexuality Rev. Jason Cooper
torkelson100 1 year ago
I really appreciate Mark's answer. We relate to God by how we relate to our neighbor -- Love the lord your God ... this is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it. You shall love your neighbor as yourself." If you read Martin Luther, he clearly sees that our relationship with God is utterly connected with how we relate to our neighbor. They cannot be seperated.
pkcHainsaw 1 year ago 3
I disagree with Mark. How we are a Christian is about how we relate to God. Hansen is right how we relate to others is the foundation of being Lutheran. The entire Augsburg Confession is about how we relate to other who agree and disagree with us
dsillik 1 year ago
@dsillik Really?? The whole AC is about how we relate to each other?? That must be why article IV on justification is considered the chief article because it's all about how we relate to each other. Oh wait that's right justification is about how we relate to God. Do yourself a favor, go through confirmation again.
MackLeeGreen 1 year ago
@dsillik Like I said. Go through confirmation again. Lutheranism is not about how we relate to each other. It is about how we relate to God. Why do you think article IV (Justification) of the AC is considered the chief article? Because it is about how we relate to God.
MackLeeGreen 1 year ago
Horrible answer. Being Lutheran does not begin with how we relate to each other, it begins with how we relate to God; as sinners in need of redemption. Hanson may have at some point known what it means to be Lutheran but he has obviously long since forgotten.
MackLeeGreen 1 year ago
A great answer and thanks Keith for making it available on YouTube.
pastorstevect 1 year ago 6