the garment doesn't help anything. Women all over the world wear veils and hair covers, and they are still being raped and abused. Children wearing full body covers are still being raped brutally. The garment is another tactic of control by men. People need to wake up.
The NOI is not true Islam, wallahi. Elijah Muhammad was not a messenger of God and the organization taught some really ridiculous thing like God came in the body of a man. My God cannot be encapsulated by human features. And they don't cover as Muslim women are supposed to. I just don't have respect for NOI "Muslims" because they make all of us REAL Black Muslims look bad. In the US we sunni Muslims get called "bean pie" Muslims b/c of the NOI and real Muslims don't take us serious, b/c of NOI.
Sister, Allah is the only one who can determine whether my expression of faith is 'true' or 'real'. If there's something that you don't 're-spect' or want to look at again because you don't want to understand then just leave it alone Sister. You enjoy your Islam - I'm grateful as I already enjoy mine!
@JanetIcha I forgot I even wrote this. Alaysa Allahu bi-ahkami alhakimeen? I have left NOI to NOI because we both have our differences with each other. I don't care anymore. As long as you follow Arkin-al-Islam and love Nabi and Allah swt!
Black people haven't needed to cover themself because it was purely for the people of the dessert? What about the black people of sub saharan Africa? The Saharan dessert? doesn't make sense.
am sorry but your a sister but your mad,a man will see you and he will want sex just like that .just put cloth over you and he can't see you thats just mad talk tell the truth i just want to stand out sister archer must run with some bad men it all starts at home were mum will show you and dadwill show the son's rap songs tv shows have ten girl at home why can we not tell them life is what mum and dad tell you
@Askar590 NAIROBI, Kenya, A 17-year-old girl in Somalia who converted to Christianity from Islam was shot to death last week in an apparent "honor killing," area sources said.
Nurta Mohamed Farah, who had fled her village of Bardher, Gedo Region to Galgadud Region to live with relatives after her parents tortured her for leaving Islam, died on Nov. 25.
@Askar590 Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
Bukhari (83:37) - "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."
Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"
This proves that islam commands the death of those who leave islam.
your not muslim, your part of a racist black supremacy cult, your as worse as the kkk, true musims believe that all humans are equal, the only thing that distinguishes them from the rest is their piety and their faith. for we're all creations of god, and the true god, not an idiot man called w.fard.muhammed.whats most disgusting about you racists is the fact you use the name of the beautiful religion of islam. you're all just filthy kafirs!!!
tamara I am suprised of you to post something like this I am speaking from NOI, we are not trained sto speak to any muslims that way, Allahgh sees you. what ever their faults are, you are not to judge, lease you be judged.
In every society or community, men and women must respect societal boundaries, regardless of what they perceive or encounter. Otherwise they should face consequences. It is as simple as that. Women must exist on this planet alongside men. and women should not have to completely cloak their identities in order to receive respect from the men in their communities. Period.
I may not condone women of any age dressing in ways that are overly provocative, but a woman can wear more or less clothing and still be deemed as provocative, because it's a person's character that really determines how she or he will be received by others. I think women in such communities have socioculturally givien up on expecting the men in their communities to respect them and respect societal boundaries regardless of what the women wear or how they adorn themselves.
This was an interesting and informative perspective of why women in the Muslim community have chosen this dress code. However, I do wonder at what point do women in this community not defer to the shortcomings of men? When you have to completely cover nearly every vestige of your identity as a way to suppress what you believe are the natural instincts of men, there is a serious issue. The people such a community must get to the root of the issue, which is lack of respect for women.
I hate to say this, as a sister, I don't mean to insult you. But nearly everything you said about the reasons behind Allah's laws, as if it needs excusing, was wrong. I mean, referring to the times of Rasuli Akhram (saw), all wrong. sorry. just an fyi
It troubles me that as women, we often try to "come hard" like the Brothers. What is even more sad is when we speak loud and don't lknow what we are talking about. I am not into what type of Muslim someone is, just they practice the faith daily. But I do know that no MGT is taught speak in vulgar terms. It does not matter if you are in the NOI or Sunni, neither should judge are call anyone out of their name. If you are going to claim a group don't misrepresent the group.
im sorry to say sister but the nation of islam is not the true islam. As a muslim you must fallow the teachings of the Prophet muhammad (s..w.a.s) follow the Quran and Sunnah
Shut up! You probably go on here just looking for NOI videos! Don't worry about us,worry about yourself,and it would be a better world. You orthodox muslims so focus on other groups when your little girls can't wait to be little hoes! (Excuse my language but it's the truth) I know this because of the sunni muslims that goes to the same school as my daughters and their out there! Drees like tramps in school but see them with their families and they're covered up! Again worry about YOU!
Islam means peace; not just words, but our actions, and the way that we relate with others.
Islam dignifies; it teaches us how to conduct ourselves with dignity, grace and patience. Eg, as Muslims, we don't call ourselves or others out of our names and NEVER, EVER refer to ANY female as 'hoe' or 'tramp'!!!
It's so easy for us to 'tear down' but it is time for us to 'build up' ourselves and one another up in order for each of us to be worthy of the Grace of God.
@tamaradaluvgoddess tamara I am suprised of you to post something like this I am speaking from NOI, we are not trained sto speak to any muslims that way, Allahgh sees you. what ever their faults are, you are not to judge, lease you be judged. We are better than what you just displayed - How to act at home and abroad.
Thank you for your comments... Allah states in the Quran the righteous walk the earth in humility. Making assumptions about others' expression of Islam generally leads us into conflict. Asking questions; Do you follow the Quran? Prophet Muhammad? The Sunnah? Just by asking questions, you may find we have more in common than we do in conflict...
@JanetIcha I disagree. BasimaNislam is right. It's not like basimNislam is asking are you religious or do you follow every law. She is making a point. If you are a true muslim you follow the Quran and Muhammad. Muhammad is the true prophet, not Elijah Muhammad or Fard.
@1pitchblack Nation of Islam is not true Islam. Nation of Islam is a Black Supremacist, Racist, False, UFO-Religion, Offshoot of Islam.
Muslims believe that Muhammad was the last Prophet, that there wil be none that come after him, yet Nation of Islam Muslims claim that Fard is "Allah" and Elijah Muhammad is a Prophet. That is heresy according to common-Muslim thought AND The Koran.
@basimaNislam In Surah #2 Allah set the acceptance of belief and no belief. And that is, Belief in Allah, His Word, His Prophets and the Hereafter etc. Any who believes in this words and deeds has nothing to fear. Matters if they are Muslim, Jew, Christian and or Sabian. So s/he who is truely a Believer says "WE hear and WE obey"!
@basimaNislam ASA: Sis. IF this is true who did Isa(Jesus), Solomon, David, Moses, Abraham Follow. Truly al Islam isn't represented in it's complete glory by todays communities, possibly since Prophet Muh.(PBUH) walk the earth.
@basimaNislam The nation of Islam is Islam but with different twist it is the history of black people which has taken its slant on Islam. Our history is not one to be ignored and has influenced the practice of Islam, Shiekh's from Arabia dont really understand the jihad of the Black Muslims so we have our own sheikhs who can guide us to retrain our faith before we join mainstream.
What do you think that the cause of the problem is that causes many sisters to not wear head pieces at all, or partially?
I understand that the hist. of Black chattel slavery in the U.K. is different than in my country. Is it that it was abolished much earlier than in the U.S.? Would you please expound upon that sister? Thank you for answering my questions.
We have a problem with many of the sisters that follow the Hon. Elijah Muhammad covering their heads entirely not permitting one strand of hair on their head to be seen in the United States. I have noticed from several videos of the believers inside and outside of the mosque and the girls in Muhammad's University of Islam in the U.K. who do not wear any head pieces or a bandana simply.
Are there many followers of THEM in the UK who disagree with this & do they have their heads fully covered?
The Teachings given to us in the UK is the same as the US.
The unique style of dress given to us from Allah, through THEM is a part of the prescription (the healing) to help restore balance within ourselves,families, community and Nation.
Any misrepresentation or misinterpretation is ours. We all have struggles to overcome; whether it's the diet, study, prayer, we have to learn how to sacrifice what we want in order for us to become more productive members of our Nation.
I think this is an perfect explaination of our refind cultural uniqueness.This is why we are Muslim.Great video! Al-Maidah 5:2Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour:
the garment doesn't help anything. Women all over the world wear veils and hair covers, and they are still being raped and abused. Children wearing full body covers are still being raped brutally. The garment is another tactic of control by men. People need to wake up.
Peace and love.
2012lavender 3 weeks ago
The NOI is not true Islam, wallahi. Elijah Muhammad was not a messenger of God and the organization taught some really ridiculous thing like God came in the body of a man. My God cannot be encapsulated by human features. And they don't cover as Muslim women are supposed to. I just don't have respect for NOI "Muslims" because they make all of us REAL Black Muslims look bad. In the US we sunni Muslims get called "bean pie" Muslims b/c of the NOI and real Muslims don't take us serious, b/c of NOI.
Amatallah2008 7 months ago
@Amatallah2008
"Lay me not under an obligation by YOUR Islam; rather ALLAH lays you under an obligation by guiding you to the faith, IF you are truthful.":
Holy Quran 49:17
Sister, Allah is the only one who can determine whether my expression of faith is 'true' or 'real'. If there's something that you don't 're-spect' or want to look at again because you don't want to understand then just leave it alone Sister. You enjoy your Islam - I'm grateful as I already enjoy mine!
JanetIcha 1 month ago
@JanetIcha I forgot I even wrote this. Alaysa Allahu bi-ahkami alhakimeen? I have left NOI to NOI because we both have our differences with each other. I don't care anymore. As long as you follow Arkin-al-Islam and love Nabi and Allah swt!
Amatallah2008 1 month ago
Black people haven't needed to cover themself because it was purely for the people of the dessert? What about the black people of sub saharan Africa? The Saharan dessert? doesn't make sense.
umnafi 8 months ago
am sorry but your a sister but your mad,a man will see you and he will want sex just like that .just put cloth over you and he can't see you thats just mad talk tell the truth i just want to stand out sister archer must run with some bad men it all starts at home were mum will show you and dadwill show the son's rap songs tv shows have ten girl at home why can we not tell them life is what mum and dad tell you
deanlelie3000 8 months ago
who sings the song at the end of clip?
pj4kds 10 months ago
@Askar590 NAIROBI, Kenya, A 17-year-old girl in Somalia who converted to Christianity from Islam was shot to death last week in an apparent "honor killing," area sources said.
Nurta Mohamed Farah, who had fled her village of Bardher, Gedo Region to Galgadud Region to live with relatives after her parents tortured her for leaving Islam, died on Nov. 25.
BurnQuranSept11 10 months ago
@Askar590 Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
Bukhari (83:37) - "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."
BurnQuranSept11 10 months ago
@Askar590 So you refuse to answer?
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"
This proves that islam commands the death of those who leave islam.
BurnQuranSept11 10 months ago
@Askar590 No, just answer yes or no.
Are people killed for leaving islam?
BurnQuranSept11 10 months ago
@Askar590 So do you claim that no one is killed for leaving islam?
Do you dare to answer this question?
BurnQuranSept11 10 months ago
@Askar590 So are you claiming that people are not killed for leaving islam?
(this should be good)
BurnQuranSept11 10 months ago
@Askar590 The penalty for apostasy in islam is death. Many people have been killed for this.
Do you deny this??? I will be glad to prove that it is true.
;)
BurnQuranSept11 10 months ago
@Askar590 Islam commands that all who choose to leave islam must be killed.
Explain to me how this is good.
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rahanamadawi 1 year ago
Islam is evil shit.
BurnQuranSept11 1 year ago
your not muslim, your part of a racist black supremacy cult, your as worse as the kkk, true musims believe that all humans are equal, the only thing that distinguishes them from the rest is their piety and their faith. for we're all creations of god, and the true god, not an idiot man called w.fard.muhammed.whats most disgusting about you racists is the fact you use the name of the beautiful religion of islam. you're all just filthy kafirs!!!
Omarh96 1 year ago
tamara I am suprised of you to post something like this I am speaking from NOI, we are not trained sto speak to any muslims that way, Allahgh sees you. what ever their faults are, you are not to judge, lease you be judged.
SisLtWam 1 year ago
In every society or community, men and women must respect societal boundaries, regardless of what they perceive or encounter. Otherwise they should face consequences. It is as simple as that. Women must exist on this planet alongside men. and women should not have to completely cloak their identities in order to receive respect from the men in their communities. Period.
PowerfulMindsofWomen 1 year ago 2
I may not condone women of any age dressing in ways that are overly provocative, but a woman can wear more or less clothing and still be deemed as provocative, because it's a person's character that really determines how she or he will be received by others. I think women in such communities have socioculturally givien up on expecting the men in their communities to respect them and respect societal boundaries regardless of what the women wear or how they adorn themselves.
PowerfulMindsofWomen 1 year ago
This was an interesting and informative perspective of why women in the Muslim community have chosen this dress code. However, I do wonder at what point do women in this community not defer to the shortcomings of men? When you have to completely cover nearly every vestige of your identity as a way to suppress what you believe are the natural instincts of men, there is a serious issue. The people such a community must get to the root of the issue, which is lack of respect for women.
PowerfulMindsofWomen 1 year ago
I hate to say this, as a sister, I don't mean to insult you. But nearly everything you said about the reasons behind Allah's laws, as if it needs excusing, was wrong. I mean, referring to the times of Rasuli Akhram (saw), all wrong. sorry. just an fyi
Galfriday23 2 years ago
Why is this Haraam music playing with the video. Common muslims stick to the Quran and Sunnah. Stop trying to imitate the kafirs.
Muhammad90000 2 years ago
LOL!
kheir03 2 years ago
Very well communicated Sista.
Zeeceei 2 years ago
Wow ! What a Beautiful Intelligent Woman! I am interested in this Islam!
microwitchvoodooyou 2 years ago
It troubles me that as women, we often try to "come hard" like the Brothers. What is even more sad is when we speak loud and don't lknow what we are talking about. I am not into what type of Muslim someone is, just they practice the faith daily. But I do know that no MGT is taught speak in vulgar terms. It does not matter if you are in the NOI or Sunni, neither should judge are call anyone out of their name. If you are going to claim a group don't misrepresent the group.
UNoe60 2 years ago
does anyone know wher i can find the song plaing in the background (This si why im muslim)? Who is it?
muslima0ashia 2 years ago
"This Is Why I'm Hot" is the song
DavidOwenWard 2 years ago
that song is off da chain! i wanna hear more,where can i find it?
muslima0ashia 2 years ago
which culture invented the minimally provocative "belly dance"?
lvildos 2 years ago
im sorry to say sister but the nation of islam is not the true islam. As a muslim you must fallow the teachings of the Prophet muhammad (s..w.a.s) follow the Quran and Sunnah
basimaNislam 3 years ago 6
Shut up! You probably go on here just looking for NOI videos! Don't worry about us,worry about yourself,and it would be a better world. You orthodox muslims so focus on other groups when your little girls can't wait to be little hoes! (Excuse my language but it's the truth) I know this because of the sunni muslims that goes to the same school as my daughters and their out there! Drees like tramps in school but see them with their families and they're covered up! Again worry about YOU!
Peace
tamaradaluvgoddess 2 years ago
As Salaam Alaikum
Islam means peace; not just words, but our actions, and the way that we relate with others.
Islam dignifies; it teaches us how to conduct ourselves with dignity, grace and patience. Eg, as Muslims, we don't call ourselves or others out of our names and NEVER, EVER refer to ANY female as 'hoe' or 'tramp'!!!
It's so easy for us to 'tear down' but it is time for us to 'build up' ourselves and one another up in order for each of us to be worthy of the Grace of God.
JanetIcha 2 years ago
cool sister a real sista ;-) peace..
nigarkubra 2 years ago
Very well said.
sunsugar35 2 years ago
That was very beautiful Sister.
UNoe60 2 years ago
@JanetIcha beutiful sister from your brother at MUHAMMAD MOSQUE 15 ATL,keep bareing witness that ALLAH IS IN THE PERSON OF MASTER FARD MUHAMMAD!
blackmessiah1930 1 year ago
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@JanetIcha If the teachings of NOI are the true of path of Allah (swt), could you give me the evidence from Al-Kitap Al-Quran?
SuperMuslimas 1 year ago
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@JanetIcha If the teachings of NOI are the true of path of Allah (swt), could you give me the evidence from Al-Kitap Al-Quran?
SuperMuslimas 1 year ago
@tamaradaluvgoddess tamara I am suprised of you to post something like this I am speaking from NOI, we are not trained sto speak to any muslims that way, Allahgh sees you. what ever their faults are, you are not to judge, lease you be judged. We are better than what you just displayed - How to act at home and abroad.
SisLtWam 1 year ago
As Salaam Alaikum,
Thank you for your comments... Allah states in the Quran the righteous walk the earth in humility. Making assumptions about others' expression of Islam generally leads us into conflict. Asking questions; Do you follow the Quran? Prophet Muhammad? The Sunnah? Just by asking questions, you may find we have more in common than we do in conflict...
JanetIcha 2 years ago
@JanetIcha I disagree. BasimaNislam is right. It's not like basimNislam is asking are you religious or do you follow every law. She is making a point. If you are a true muslim you follow the Quran and Muhammad. Muhammad is the true prophet, not Elijah Muhammad or Fard.
XtreemMetalMan 1 year ago
@XtreemMetalMan who gives you the Authority to say what true Islam is?
1pitchblack 1 year ago
@1pitchblack Nation of Islam is not true Islam. Nation of Islam is a Black Supremacist, Racist, False, UFO-Religion, Offshoot of Islam.
Muslims believe that Muhammad was the last Prophet, that there wil be none that come after him, yet Nation of Islam Muslims claim that Fard is "Allah" and Elijah Muhammad is a Prophet. That is heresy according to common-Muslim thought AND The Koran.
XtreemMetalMan 1 year ago
@XtreemMetalMan you realy don't have an clue, just leave it alone!
1pitchblack 1 year ago
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XtreemMetalMan 1 year ago
@1pitchblack: If the teachings of NOI are the true of path of Allah (swt), could you give me the evidence from Al-Kitap Al-Quran?
SuperMuslimas 1 year ago
@1pitchblack and @JanetIcha: Could you guys give me the proves from Al-Quran that your sect is righteous?
SuperMuslimas 1 year ago
@basimaNislam In Surah #2 Allah set the acceptance of belief and no belief. And that is, Belief in Allah, His Word, His Prophets and the Hereafter etc. Any who believes in this words and deeds has nothing to fear. Matters if they are Muslim, Jew, Christian and or Sabian. So s/he who is truely a Believer says "WE hear and WE obey"!
firstummahalislam 1 year ago
@basimaNislam ASA: Sis. IF this is true who did Isa(Jesus), Solomon, David, Moses, Abraham Follow. Truly al Islam isn't represented in it's complete glory by todays communities, possibly since Prophet Muh.(PBUH) walk the earth.
firstummahalislam 1 year ago
@basimaNislam yaw niggas who follow Islam from the East are behind times
MrWorldbefree 1 year ago
@basimaNislam The nation of Islam is Islam but with different twist it is the history of black people which has taken its slant on Islam. Our history is not one to be ignored and has influenced the practice of Islam, Shiekh's from Arabia dont really understand the jihad of the Black Muslims so we have our own sheikhs who can guide us to retrain our faith before we join mainstream.
ummayesha2009 9 months ago
What do you think that the cause of the problem is that causes many sisters to not wear head pieces at all, or partially?
I understand that the hist. of Black chattel slavery in the U.K. is different than in my country. Is it that it was abolished much earlier than in the U.S.? Would you please expound upon that sister? Thank you for answering my questions.
As-salaam Alaikum mam.
TribeofShabazz 3 years ago
We have a problem with many of the sisters that follow the Hon. Elijah Muhammad covering their heads entirely not permitting one strand of hair on their head to be seen in the United States. I have noticed from several videos of the believers inside and outside of the mosque and the girls in Muhammad's University of Islam in the U.K. who do not wear any head pieces or a bandana simply.
Are there many followers of THEM in the UK who disagree with this & do they have their heads fully covered?
TribeofShabazz 3 years ago
Peace,
The Teachings given to us in the UK is the same as the US.
The unique style of dress given to us from Allah, through THEM is a part of the prescription (the healing) to help restore balance within ourselves,families, community and Nation.
Any misrepresentation or misinterpretation is ours. We all have struggles to overcome; whether it's the diet, study, prayer, we have to learn how to sacrifice what we want in order for us to become more productive members of our Nation.
JanetIcha 3 years ago
Praise Allah(God)!!
Thank You for this video
JoinTheNationofIslam 3 years ago
Asalam Alaikum fam,
I think this is an perfect explaination of our refind cultural uniqueness.This is why we are Muslim.Great video! Al-Maidah 5:2Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour:
exfoi34 3 years ago