Metal Gear Solid-Death is Not Defeat

[ftorresdiaz]

even now im afraid to press select in the torture room

[asorlonnn]

DEATH IS DEFEAT ERNEST HEMINGWAY THAT IS PRIDE FUCKING WITH YOU!!!

FUCK PRIDE!!

[Ellisthemechanic]

This is a classic. I cannot stress this statement, or even fact enough. FUCK Call of Duty. That game is for the weak new generation pussies and it's so fucking lame compared to Metal Gear Solid. Call of Duty has no feeling, no characters, no story, nothing. It's just a lame FPS. Metal Gear Solid has got to be the best game in the world. It's more than just a video game in my opinion.

[Xxandrew01]

@Ellisthemechanic Same goes for halo its the same as cod and battlefield its about MGS.

[MrChappyJunior]

Liquid: if you cross this line, you will fall. at this height, it will kill even you! however, if I fall, i will miraculously survive.

[MichaelMorales2010]

@MrChappyJunior LMAO i know right!!

[ftorresdiaz]

@MrChappyJunior he had de dominant genes, the dominant genes are stronger than he thoughts

[CrimsonHybrid6VI6]

Kojima really IS fit to make movies. I mean, look at the MGS series. Sure, we may dislike some characters, but the series as a whole is like a movie.

I mean, how many times have fans cried over the scenes? (*remembers Otacon crying for Naomi over his laptop* ...)

Or-or.... Laughed at the immense amount of comedy? And of course, don't forget the action.

It's like all the movie genres rolled into one! :D

[vincent834]

@CrimsonHybrid6VI6 Interactive Movie, 'Nuff Said.

[CrimsonHybrid6VI6]

@vincent834 You said it. :D



[lorenzo89theking]

HAve a break have a SNaaake!

[TheJDMsamuraiwarrior]

I like this ending

[matthewtanga]

this is better than the other ending in my opinion cuz the other ending is kinda cheesy, but that is just me talking :D

[tupac56334]

NO i do NOT want to buy mac donalds go away ads -.-

[skittles25]

This is what I would consider the TRUE ending to Metal Gear Solid before the time paradox kicked in...

[holydeamonhunter]

The Snake's death by Mei ling means, "No...Snake! SNAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAKEE!" or Naomi means, "Snake, answer me. Snake! SNAAAAAAKE!"

Yes, seriously! Solid Snake, is kill that is playing right after the defeat him, "Metal Gear Solid 1 (pc, or ps1)".

[molibladeworks]

MEROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!­

[NPRoland]

I don't care if this ending is canonical or not..This ending was leaps and bounds above the ending where she lives. This ending truly develops the fact that Snake is indeed human, and can be affected by the tragedy of losing someone whom you loved. I think it took Meryl's death to make him realize this feeling, which just solidifies my point wish this ending was canonical .I don't have anything against Meryl, but this just made Snake seem so much more real. Fucking poetry. That's what this is.

[Lvke666]

To be honest with all of you... I have always cried at this part of game... Think what you want, but it was really emotional...

[jec1234]

Great music

[christlubas]

Death is not defeat, Not as long you have Liquid's arm hehehe.

[TheBigWhiteGun]

I hate the fact that love can break you down SO much, and even for a tough guy like Snake.

[ZeroSuitSamus2008]

@TheBigWhiteGun It can also slow down a story unless done well.Most people just put in a love intrest for the sake of it.

[NPRoland]

@TheBigWhiteGun

I know this is four months late, but I think this is one of the most valid statements I've ever read, just saying. :P

[wallesshelby]

this was amazing as knife said this was my first game and the only one i have actually practically memorized every scene literally everyone, especially this one and gray fox's death great game sad scene I LUV MGS

[yamaharider58]

@wallesshelby i beat this game 22 times and everytime i spoke the lines perfectly with the cutscenes :)

[gator159]

what would be the name to the sad background music

[Blade9218]

@gator159 Enclosure

[TheOnikei]

T_TTTTTTTTT

[knifewrenchowns]

This scene was amazing...

In the first one. In Twin Snakes, I didn't feel any emotion at all. Like there was no emotion in their words. It's sad.

[KazuoKiriyama666]

Hayter's best delivery. Ever.

[garrettlance92]

video game moments ive cryed in. THIS ONE. FF7 when aeris dies. and thats it i think.

[bezia12]

DEATH IS NOT DEFEAT true words i think mgs is not a game for me for others is it just a stupid game but for real MGS fans its more than a game sorry for my bad English

[oxoConstantinEoxo]

jeezus christ i cried so hard at this T_T

[dirtyhyde8]

So anybody has a source for that quote:"death is not defeat". I think this ending was much more emortional than the other one. Notice how Meryl doesnt appear in any of the other until MGS4, Kojima probably wanted to make this the official ending.

[Tatchi0glass0bender]

Honestly i wish it was. it fits the story better than Meryl living as well as... my god its just fantastic :(

[Momentum139]

For the time period, this was considered FAR FROM NORMAL, you didn't have games with plots as deep and intertwining as this. For us, or you and others, its just a slightly easier to understand story with less military knowledge and less things to think about apart from character development.

[Momentum139]

"Homo Raiden?" ha, what a bullshit fan statement, no offense but I'm sick of hearing it. MGS1 AND 2 are the mid-age Solid Snakes, that's the thing, Ocelot, Liquid, and Roy ALL comment that Snake was getting worse in his old age (to them, 30-40 is not a good year to be at for a soldier), shown by the feats he accomplished in the first two NES titles to Solid itself.

[YuraT0w3l]

ok, homo is a strong word for him i guess. just a really off placed character at the wrong time in my opinion. all this conversation on mgs makes me wanna whip out the ol' ps2 and play some shit. most definetly the best titles made on the sony platform..even if the story gets a little too science fiction for my taste. props to you for knowin your shit too dude..not many people do

[Momentum139]

I'm actually trying to "ungay" that thought through logic. See, MGS borders on the line of realism and fourth wallism without ever truly breaking either, most of the world Snake submerses in is black ops that we will NEVER hear about.

Cobra Unit? The Pain controlled phereomones on a supernatural level, all of the Cobras were underneath the Boss for being the "best" of their position. Bees inside of his body? A little wack and crazy, but such Nazi experiments could be heralded in that time.

[Momentum139]

So it wasn't impossible. The Fear? He was REALLY acrobatic, and you have to remember, Snake was basically drugged during that fight, and taking it from his perspective, the REALLY high camouflage suit Fear wore not only produced the Fear's "spider" effect but many other unnatural feats from SNAKE'S perspective. Most of what he did isn't too unexpectable, he skittered across the ground and used a crossbow.

The End? A REALLY good sniper who was taking his vitamins, not too MAGICY, just abnormal.

[Momentum139]

The End is very much like Solid Snake, they both retained their skills in battle to their respective old ages, imagine what the End was like when he could pad around, make less noise, and didn't wheeze himself out of energy.

The Fury? NOTHING SPECIAL HERE, just some interesting fireworks and a condition that prevents the "feeling" of physical pain in human reaction.

The Boss? A psuedo-female version of G.I Joe, loyal and EXTREMELY TALENTED. Volgin is the only supernatural thing about...

[Momentum139]

MGS3 as well as the Sorrow, which can both be attributed as video game elements to kepe things interesting. I would have been bored with the game had the Cobras not featured extroadinarily supernatural abilities and skills. It just shows how far Kojima knows the military/humans can bring things without going too far.

And the Sorrow? One answer: PSYCHO MANTIS.

[YuraT0w3l]

k, the fear has super jumping ability and can go invisible, the pain is some weirdo with the ability to control bees and summon 'bullet bees', the end is a photosynthetic sniper who draws energy from the sun, volgin is some magical electric dude, and the sorrow is some unlucky bastard who was killed by the boss. the fury and the boss are probably the only normal ones in the game.

[300MUSIC]

MERRRRYYYYLLLLLL!!

when i was little, this made me cry. its such a sad moment ]:

[CidHighwindRocks]

:`( This is my bad ending face

[celtics8402]

Great sad music.

[Eikkanen]

It's interesting that Otacon is speaking the love between him and Wolf... umm... when did Wolf say she loved Otacon? She was just nice to him...

[dlausactor6373]

David Hayter deserves an Oscar for this scene!

[DjKardinal]

heh ya David is like the best XD

[RocktheSocks]

As much as I loved Meryl, and loved her living, this ending was just so much cooler. That, and you got stealth after you viewed it. :)

[Eikkanen]

I agree. I usually play the game with this ending.

[CidHighwindRocks]

I also agree, in a cinematic sense it's much more powerful and it breaks the Hollywood tradition of saving the girl, not to mention Hayters voice acting for this scene is so emotional as well.

[Momentum139]

Its too bad Twin Snakes didn't fare as well. Poor David Hayter, spending half of his salary to get all these ungrateful actors back, they should have just reused the audio from this game.

[harrydoyle8815]

fuck off you stupid perv you add these comments on loads of mgs videos(i really hope your just messing round)

[ToastedWormEater]

0:35 - 1:11

I masturbated.

[SNAAAKE]

whoa no homo??

lol

[harrydoyle8815]

im a HUGE MGS FAN BY THE WAY I THINK I OWN ALL THE MGS,MGA GAMES.

[Gameguru86]

So does anybody know what gives with Snake's personality change in MGS4? Why does he act like such a douche bag toward her in that game as opposed to the first one? Did he just wake up one day and decide to be more of an asshole than usual?

[Momentum139]

Why is it no one's paying attention. First of all, he's OLD, and getting older, for unknown reasons, and there's already a lot of pressure between that and the war he is sneaking in. Like a douche bag? That doesn't sound right, you didn't have a better word? He talks assertively to her in MGS4 because their romance is over, and she was leading her troops to their deaths, which inadvertently came to pass due to Liquid's scheming. Did you just wake up and forget all of the cut scenes in the game?

[harrydoyle8815]

i like meryl in mgs 1 but she changes alot in mgs 4

[RhanC777]

I'm fucking crying man....

[sashimituna]

if meryl died how could she be in mgs4?

[bigbobbobson]

This is one of two possible endings, she survives in the other.

[AzEvanz]

mgs4 is based on the good ending of mgs1

[hybridRace92]

Im sorry if anybody thinks im exagerating, but not only is this one of the best games made, this is truly the best PlayStation game ever, toping Tekken 3, Crash, Spyro, and anything, this is the reason why you bought a PSOne, and MGS4 is the reason why you bought a PS3.

P.S. Twin Snakes may not be as innovative or as cool as the original, but its still cool, should b in every GameCube collection.

[MGOSnakeLiquid]

I agree with you. Well said.

[kawasakimadman450]

This scene can make youtear or cry, I know it did to me. This is a really sad scene.

[idkfa7500]

Este final es mejor que el original.

[Snake0072801]

puedo verlo millones de veces y jamas perdera su belleza ..

su tristeza..todo ...nunca me cansare de verlo :S

[thewarriors1972]

This is truely a very upsetting song but yet it is so strong. I will always love the but when snake says" I gave into my fear, i gave into my pain, im not the hero u thought i was, im NOTHING!!!!"

[AzEvanz]

me too.. mgs was the first game that i took serious when emotions came into it

[ForcheAlex]

Death is not defeat....I've kept hold of this quote, its very true.

[batoneta]

metal gear solid tought me a lot about life...for me its not only a game..is something more..

[alaskanviper]

i agree i agree

[mackdee911h3]

amen

[BlackOps2014]

i definitely agree with you

[sarpedonia]

totally agree

[Darkydrago]

I so agree with what you're saying. The Metal Gear series contains so much philosophy that one can use in everyday life. It gave me alot to think about. Love, war, violence...good and evil...this series has it all.

[CrimsonHybrid6VI6]

@batoneta It's life's truth embedded in a work of art. :')

[liamsevil]

One of the best scenes ever from a game

[dissent88]

If this became a film, this music and scene should win an oscar. Great cinematic scene.

[RomeoWest2002]

"I'm not the hero you thought I was!! I'm nothing!!" the way he shouts it out like that is really emotional....

[Momentum139]

I think "I gave into my fear. I gave into my pain. I'm a loser! I'm not the hero you thought I was. I'm NOTHING!" was the most powerful line in the game, probably in Playstation history.

For the time period this game was made in, as Kojima directly addresses in one documentary about how Metal Gear changed the gaming genre with the idea that you "don't kill every enemy", stereotypical gamers who can't handle certain tasks would have given up Meryl to continue the game thoughtlessly. However...

[Momentum139]

This scene shows how human and involving the character and the world itself is, its not like a typical game where you can make that decision willingly solely for the pleasure in achieving victory (ie - submitting to Ocelot's torture to move on and forget about Meryl, who Snake DID care about).

He is essentially directly addressing the player and his or her selfish action made of fear that you can't continue, the mindset of this would really screw with the general logic of "save your own hide".

[Momentum139]

Making you actually regret that choice, Snake could have endured it and if you tried harder you could have too. I don't know, that just really spoke to me, don't always take the easy route because you think there won't be consequences.

And DON'T GET ME STARTED ON OTACON'S POWER here, this is the best scene with him in all of MGS, not just him being support or whimpering or being dramatic, being outwardly serious and forcing Snake to accept the his/the player's actions.

[BiGRiCeD]

This part shows a more emotional side of Snake, and shows that he is not just a cold blooded killer.

[AllLivingLegend]

snake is not a cold blooded killer dude?

he fights for a case and doe's what he have to do.

[Resimaster]

I admit, I agree snake is cold blooded to an extent. Like all through the game hes shouting at Meryl and Otacon to pull themselves together, killing gets easier the more you do it, some people just need killing, etc.

But i prefer the ending where Meryl dies, because it just unleashes all Snakes emotions that hes kept suppressed for so long. Incredible game.

[cosmochagas]

I think this is the canonical ending. It explains how Otacon escaped from the island and became Snake's partner.

And in the end of the game Ocelot says that he has female prisoner, probably it's Meryl that was under the effect of the fake-death-pill during this cutscene.

[blargd]

The canonical ending was the one where he escapes from Meryl, as meryl dies in this ending yet in MGS4 she's alive and well, also the other ending explains Otacon's survival briefly when snake tells the colonel to go send a team to go back and look for Otacon.

[rickengothic]

I'm so happy that music Enclosure was appear in mgs4 act 4 :)!!

[ResidentEvil4044]

when was enclosure in act 4?

[BaronVonHerzensberg]

Best movie I ever played...

[Sephy7777]

Thats a great comment dude

[AegisKHAOS]

I really thought this should've been the canonical ending. All the scenes after the torture scene leading up to this point made Snake even more likable.

[alster724]

You can unlock the Stealth if you gave in to Ocelot's torture

[SpikeConstantine]

Not to mention if it was a canon ending then there would be no Meryl for MGS4, which would eliminate the worth while reason for Rat Patrol 1...which would suck if it was led by Johnny or something.

[AegisKHAOS]

And what's to say that a new character can't be introduced? It's not like Kojima isn't capable of doing such. Meryl's death weighed heavily on the man that could've made an even more lasting impression if it were allowed to develop further.

And, yes, I prefer the stealth camo over the bandanna, yet another big reason why I prefer Meryl's death. :P

[filipeflower]

You make me sick.

[cfhussain]

Agreed. I suppose the idea that Snake couldn't handle torture was unlikely considering he's well trained for it (and he must've failed it for Meryl to die) but my biggest complaint over MGS4's story is it was just too happy at the ending. If they wanted a realistic storyline around War, people should have died.

Raiden should've died at the end of Act 4 and Meryl shouldn't have been in it. Scenes like this and Grey Fox's death were what made MGS1 amazing to be a part of.

[DarthSolid9]

i defonintly see where ur going with that. but another annoyance is mgs is......DAM hal cries like a bitch!!! LOL

[harrydoyle8815]

i agree with your comment of raiden dieing at act 4 and the overly happpy ending.

when raiden was almost killed at act 4 i thought that it was a cool ending and a good way for him to die.

then at the end he has both arms back and a son called LITTLE JHON and i was like WTF is going on when lil jhon starts playng with his toy sword and being a dick.

i almost forgot i was playing an mgs game it was that bad.and the whole thing about sonny and her eggs when she goes"they look....YUMMY"is pointles

[cfhussain]

Otacon's a really underappreciated character of MGS. I didn't play MGS 3 but in all the other 3 he loses someone, but he's still there at the end. MGS 4 is epic, if you have a PS3 i strongly recommend buying it.

[Ericson1305]

2:00

[scotty2707]

I prefer this to the other one, more feeling to it. But the other had to happen or therd be no MGS 4

[scotty2707]

Another of the all time greatest game scenes

[TheRustedDaora]

:'(

[TexasTom87]

lol 50 seconds in it looks like Meryl was naked.

I'm on the part trying to beat Ocelot

[MetalGearWarrior2]

very emotional

although i prefer the other ending, meryl is alive in MGS4 =D

[Darkhelmet7236]

Anyone happen to know the name of the song playing in the background during the Cutscene? And whether or not its on the soundtrack?

[Feromonix]

the name of song is enclosure..

[Darkhelmet7236]

thank you

[Bozofreak]

Yeah. You also hear it during Wolf's final moments.

[BlackSadness13]

This video made me cry... *ç* Everytime i see this... =(

[KoO4AQX]

@ MetalGearSolidYee

There are tewo endings in MGS1, and in the alternate ending, both Meryl and Otacon survives.

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This is the best MGS moment ever! This proves to all, that even though Snake is a mercenary, he still got a heart and feelings, just like everyone else.

[MetalGearSolidYee]

I know let.... IDK that kind like cutscene after meryl were dead alright!! when real act started Otacon after meryl appeared alive!? Go MGS4 meryl alive WTF meryl alive!? What the hell else meryl alive!!...

[the21stsergeant]

just like rambo when he breaks down in first blood

[MetalGearSolidYee]

MGS4 how Meryl alive!? Why Meryl get dead?

[daghik15]

I you do not submit to the torture, Meryl survives in the end. ^^

[UnrealSlayer92]

So what happens to Otacon in the end since you survive the torture?

[daghik15]

He says on the Coded he'll stay behind to give you and Meryl a chance to escape. However, the bombing was cancelled, and Snake asked Campbell to send someone in to free Otacon. That's the canonical ending.

[ShadowDwiller]

I still remember Otacon's words "death is not defeat" and that what keep me go too

[anth00000]

David Hayter's got a brilliant voice. MGS1 on PSX is my fave MGS of all

[anth00000]

Merrrrryyyylllll !

[Ericson1305]

A man can be distroyed but not defeated for death is not defeat -Ernest Hemingway

[ThePinkKitty]

I LOVE David Hayter's VOICE!!

[mackdee911h3]

i ca imitate it real good

[Tottltei]

hey upload a video of yourself doing that! :D

[grnt12]

that song made me cry when I got this years ago

[CelesteDealcroix]

"David Hayter is GOD...he just went emotional in this scene."

I just have to agree with Bash316, David Hayter RULES. He did so good in this scene. The Bad Ending is sad, sure, but the better one in my opinion.

[TheJambo]

agree with xtruth, this IS more emotional than the GC one

[XTruth]

death is not defeat. that was a great quote. mgs is more than a game. I believe this ending is much more developed than the one with mery. it is also more emotional than the gc version.

[thingy2812]

much more emotional than the twin snakes version IMO

[Deeznutz5150]

This was the first ending I got. I remeber feeling like a piece of shit for 2 days before I got the other one. These Metal Gear games really mess your head up, man.

[jackass315]

that game was so emotional

[gaunt24]

to true man

[jec1234]

whats the piece of music called?

[Jimmyvalentino]

it is called Enclosure

[jec1234]

better than twin snakes

[WHATISUTUBE]

Yeah, because this ending doesnt exist in Twin Sna-OH SHI

[filipeflower]

WHATISUTUBE ,I'm sorry about replying to this comment of yours after 1 year, but...'Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes' also has two endings like in the original version. It even has the hidden costue appearances for Snake, Gray Fox and Meryl.

[WHATISUTUBE]

......I know...I was being sarcastic

[eften113]

I love this scene, this is the reason I play the game. Otacon is my favorite character.

[Bash316]

David Hayter is GOD...he just went emotional in this scene.

[Onashiro]

I really love this scene. That's why I always make Meryl die (oh yeah...and I hate her...lol). I can't beleive Snake says "What the hell do you know!" Snake, you killed his girlfriend!

Thanks for uploading it the original game footage rather the new version.

[universaladdress]

she's not his girlfriend

he's sad and deluded and thinks she is, he's a creepy insane fuck like everyone else who likes his japanese animes

[rhynerisdead]

hahaha

[Deeznutz5150]

That wasn't his girlfriend he just jacked off to her and became obsessed with her like Borat with Pamela Anderson.

[121Adamthecritic]

why couldnt otacon die instead? :p

[jasonloseefu]

So how come Meryl is in Metal Gear Solid 4 if she is dead?

[RockManXxX]

this is one of two different endings, the other ending she's alive,this must be the truth

[LanfeustDeGlinin]

this wasn't the true chronological ending of it... Meryl lives and Otacon stay in Shadow Moses, without the ending bombing... :)

[the21stsergeant]

theres two possible outcomes, the real outcome being that snake it man enough to resist torture and meryl lives, but somewhere along the line they split up