hey rustysliver, you are a funny little operaboy. and I am so impressed with your classical voice knowledge that i am going to go stand in line to buy your book or stay up late to watch your infomercial, bc i wanna be like you and love the greatest president and the best tenor ever!
i can hear bocelli tonight too, on PBS for the billionth time, and hear Foster call him, " the greatest voice of forever, genius, Mozart, heir to Caruso, Pavarotti...
Well , if he's not a REAL opera singer , then he's not a sellout ...ha-ha . What what you do if in the middle of your opera studies you get a deal to sing some pop tunes that will make you FAMOUS (forget rich ) ? The three "goons" were all real critically acclaimed operatic tenors and did it ...even Caruso sang pop songs . I did hear some "real'"tenors , live in theaters , with no mike . Which ones would you suggest for me to hear -TODAY ?
@87redsilver Yes, some opera singers can successfully perform pop songs too if they don't mix genres and do it in the pop style! If they try to sing light music in the serious classical manner like opera it sounds absurd. But if a POP SINGER without proper CLASSICAL TRAINING, proper TECHNIQUE to sing classical stuff, without proper BREATH CONTROL ventures to sing OPERA he should be judged by OPERA STANDARDS as arpeggio says! What here is presented as a REAL OPERA SINGER is just a FAKE, FRAUD!
@serenaluce Serena , l'unica persona che puo' cantare tutt'e due i generi decentemente per me e' Andrea . Opera tenors can't sound pop enough and pop singers REALLY don't have technique . I can't hear his presumed lack of technique , but I will defer to you only IF you are a professional opera singer . His breath control though is better than every other tenor I ever heard . I haven't heard anybody in the history of singing who can hold notes that long and I have studied voice ,too .
@87redsilver I'm a classically trained singer and I can tell you that Bocelli lacks the voice, volume, technique, breath control and interpretation to be an opera singer. As for holding notes for long periods of time, have you ever heard operatic bass, Samuel Ramey? He's got the best breath control of any singer I've ever heard. He can float very long passages on one breath and not run out of air. He can also sustain one note for a seemingly impossible length of time.
You'd be like Lanza and throw away all his potential and become a sellout. At least Lanza had a great voice. No serious opera singer becomes a sellout because they remain true to their art. Your logic makes no sense. Caruso did sing popular music on occasion but he was NEVER a sellout - he remained the principle tenor at the Met until his death. I never did mind Pav or Carreras (always hated Domingo) when they actually sang primarily OPERA and only did popular music on occasion and for fun.
@GermanOperaSinger See , i like his sound better than Lanza's and sorry , even Caruso ((oh , you're gonna kill me now!) and truth is Pavarotti and Corelli SINCERELY liked it too . Whether he doesn't have enough tecnique for "real" opera , I can't quite hear it , but who knows the volume thing may be true , although I can't hear it in the videos , and it DOES NOT sound like he's miked ....
@87redsilver If Pavarotti really liked Bocelli's voice so much, why didn't he ever help Bocelli get a role in an actual opera and why didn't he have Bocelli sing in one of his Pavarotti Plus concerts which, unlike the Pavarotti and Friends concerts, only featured classical and opera performers?
87redsliver-genius is not being operatic?--great. he got rid of things that make a real voice like overtones, resonance and dynamic control--yes most tenors are nasal and whatever, but bocelli is great at pop with the blindness etc to keep critics away--like Obama's blackness. he did not save opera-, now "opera" is when a BS singer sings Nessun Dorma--he saved his bank account, that is it! technique? it is called "NOT SINGING" . his voice barely reaches the Mic. the Obama of Opera, a faker.
@btsg He's got plenty of overtones and hits full high C anytime he wants now , I heard him again tonight and his technique is even better than it was .. So you jealous miserable haters stop putting him him down . Plenty of people love him because he's got a great voice and he can sing opera and he can sing pop , which normally does not happen in one person . And leave Obama alone . And blindness and blackness too . Hater .
@87redsilver I dohn't have Mr. Bocelli. I'm just saying that he isn't an opera singer. He hs noit the voice or technique for opera. He's a pop singer who sings opera arias. I have nothing against him, but he isn't an opera singer.
@arpeggio1358 I don't know , Corelli and pavarotti liked him , it clearly sounds to me like he can sing opera , and he did that in more than one occasion without a mike ; he also sang Rossini directed by Placido Domingo . but there still people on youtube saying he doesn't have the voice or the technique!. To me , he may not be the best at opera , but , because there are many legit opera singers out there who certainly are not better at all , he can definitely be called also an opera singer ...
@87redsilver Corelli and Pavarotti were being diplomatic to a blind man. I can't think of a legitimate opera singer who isn't better than Bocelli. Bocelli has a pop voice, but he hasn't the voce, training, technique, or volume to be an opera singer in my opinion and that of many others.
@arpeggio1358 Nobody gives too much importance whether he's blind or not, not even he does , in fact he plays that down so much that often I don't even remember he is . I guess we just have different opinions, so that's it . He has a pop voice , yes , and also an operatic voice which nobody in his right mind would call or consider pop . Pavarotti said 9his words ) that who didn't understand Bocelli is a great singer "has their ears covered with prosciutto' . That about sums it up .
@87redsilver You don't understand at all what arpeggio says. We don't hate Bocelli, neither her or me, and don't put too much attention to his blindness, but if some popular REAL opera singers are just being diplomatic with the blind man or just not being honest presenting their collegues who serve the MARKET, and THE MARKET dictates its conditions that everybody has to be POLITE with artists who only make MONEY... it doesn't mean that Bocelli is a REAL OPERA SINGER! He is good as a POP SINGER!
that is his genius ..."he's not very operatic", someone said above ...he maintained the tenor sound , but got rid of all those vocal mannerisms that made a tenor "too operatic" in the modern world ...so now you have lots of people back to the theaters ...he saved opera and made the tenor more modern...still keeping a beautiful sound and all the technique ...plus , who said you can not hear him without a mic ? I can hear him perfectly on this one .
ok i don´t like his singing stile... it´s not very operatic or emotional to the outside ... wich coul be a disatvantage because of his blindnes. If the Director was a little more creative, he could have made a little more contact with the audience, or just act a little more!! This looks like ... well... not good and sounds... well not good in my opinion. but hey! He sells records, and that´s what the classical world needs!
@atzedeno1 he's a "modern traditional tenor"...he's singing style sounds too "cool" for opera purists , but that's exactly what brought masses back to opera . He got rid of what modern pop and jazz music listeners found "funny'- because it was antiquated- in operatic siniging . He renovated opera singing and at the same time applied the technique to pop making pop singing better and bringing pop singers back to studying some real technique . That's what the snobbish purists don't see .
Posso capire la critica alla voce, ma se alcuni di voi criticano il fatto di essere statico sul palco ho come l' impressione che vi scordiate un piccolo particolare: è cieco, e non è facile muoversi!
Io non capisco neanche la critica alla voce ...ha un suono migliore di tanti grandi tenori ...forse dipende da che tipo di musica si ascolta di solito ...
Why bother to sing a real opera? Everyone knows he can't project his voice enough to be heard efficiently in a real opera production. Bocelli needs to stick to popera and concerts and recording albums.
Putting aside Andrea's many musical talents, playing about seven musical instruments as well as singing like an angle, remember his is also a Doctor of Laws, those who critcize should ask themselves;
"What have I accomplished?" He is truly inspirational to us all.
@GermanOperaSinger You knew well the guy just mispelled angel , so don't giive us your tight ass sarcasm . You are just jealous because he's making a lot of money . If he sounded just like another opera asinger , he would have not been that successful . Success does not always mean talent . In his case he does . He can't project enough ? He can still sing better than a lot of opera singers .
@87redsilver I'm not jealous of anyone. I could care less about money. He is a sellout, plain and simple. I will agree that some aspects of his technique are better than many professional operatic tenors TODAY (not those of 60 years ago), but he has zero support which is why he can't be heard without a mike. And his voice is really nothing special. Have you actually HEARD real operatic tenors? And no the '3 goons' concerts don't count.
@GermanOperaSinger May I quote that "3 goons" line,, as long as I give you credit for it? LOL! That's wonderful! I'd always wondered what they should be called.
Sei stato lì il giorno che ci sono andata anche io....effettivamente Bocelli non si sente alla lunga distanza, e pare che questo sia un "difetto" anche della Bartoli....ma me l'hanno riferito, non lo dico io, eh!!!
hey rustysliver, you are a funny little operaboy. and I am so impressed with your classical voice knowledge that i am going to go stand in line to buy your book or stay up late to watch your infomercial, bc i wanna be like you and love the greatest president and the best tenor ever!
i can hear bocelli tonight too, on PBS for the billionth time, and hear Foster call him, " the greatest voice of forever, genius, Mozart, heir to Caruso, Pavarotti...
come on people....wake up
btsg 1 year ago
Well , if he's not a REAL opera singer , then he's not a sellout ...ha-ha . What what you do if in the middle of your opera studies you get a deal to sing some pop tunes that will make you FAMOUS (forget rich ) ? The three "goons" were all real critically acclaimed operatic tenors and did it ...even Caruso sang pop songs . I did hear some "real'"tenors , live in theaters , with no mike . Which ones would you suggest for me to hear -TODAY ?
87redsilver 1 year ago
@87redsilver Yes, some opera singers can successfully perform pop songs too if they don't mix genres and do it in the pop style! If they try to sing light music in the serious classical manner like opera it sounds absurd. But if a POP SINGER without proper CLASSICAL TRAINING, proper TECHNIQUE to sing classical stuff, without proper BREATH CONTROL ventures to sing OPERA he should be judged by OPERA STANDARDS as arpeggio says! What here is presented as a REAL OPERA SINGER is just a FAKE, FRAUD!
serenaluce 1 year ago
@serenaluce Serena , l'unica persona che puo' cantare tutt'e due i generi decentemente per me e' Andrea . Opera tenors can't sound pop enough and pop singers REALLY don't have technique . I can't hear his presumed lack of technique , but I will defer to you only IF you are a professional opera singer . His breath control though is better than every other tenor I ever heard . I haven't heard anybody in the history of singing who can hold notes that long and I have studied voice ,too .
87redsilver 1 year ago
@87redsilver I'm a classically trained singer and I can tell you that Bocelli lacks the voice, volume, technique, breath control and interpretation to be an opera singer. As for holding notes for long periods of time, have you ever heard operatic bass, Samuel Ramey? He's got the best breath control of any singer I've ever heard. He can float very long passages on one breath and not run out of air. He can also sustain one note for a seemingly impossible length of time.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
You'd be like Lanza and throw away all his potential and become a sellout. At least Lanza had a great voice. No serious opera singer becomes a sellout because they remain true to their art. Your logic makes no sense. Caruso did sing popular music on occasion but he was NEVER a sellout - he remained the principle tenor at the Met until his death. I never did mind Pav or Carreras (always hated Domingo) when they actually sang primarily OPERA and only did popular music on occasion and for fun.
GermanOperaSinger 1 year ago
@GermanOperaSinger See , i like his sound better than Lanza's and sorry , even Caruso ((oh , you're gonna kill me now!) and truth is Pavarotti and Corelli SINCERELY liked it too . Whether he doesn't have enough tecnique for "real" opera , I can't quite hear it , but who knows the volume thing may be true , although I can't hear it in the videos , and it DOES NOT sound like he's miked ....
87redsilver 1 year ago
@87redsilver If Pavarotti really liked Bocelli's voice so much, why didn't he ever help Bocelli get a role in an actual opera and why didn't he have Bocelli sing in one of his Pavarotti Plus concerts which, unlike the Pavarotti and Friends concerts, only featured classical and opera performers?
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
87redsliver-genius is not being operatic?--great. he got rid of things that make a real voice like overtones, resonance and dynamic control--yes most tenors are nasal and whatever, but bocelli is great at pop with the blindness etc to keep critics away--like Obama's blackness. he did not save opera-, now "opera" is when a BS singer sings Nessun Dorma--he saved his bank account, that is it! technique? it is called "NOT SINGING" . his voice barely reaches the Mic. the Obama of Opera, a faker.
btsg 2 years ago
bravo
anthonisenscheisse 2 years ago
@btsg He's got plenty of overtones and hits full high C anytime he wants now , I heard him again tonight and his technique is even better than it was .. So you jealous miserable haters stop putting him him down . Plenty of people love him because he's got a great voice and he can sing opera and he can sing pop , which normally does not happen in one person . And leave Obama alone . And blindness and blackness too . Hater .
87redsilver 1 year ago
@87redsilver I dohn't have Mr. Bocelli. I'm just saying that he isn't an opera singer. He hs noit the voice or technique for opera. He's a pop singer who sings opera arias. I have nothing against him, but he isn't an opera singer.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 That should have read I don't hate Mr. Bocelli.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 I don't know , Corelli and pavarotti liked him , it clearly sounds to me like he can sing opera , and he did that in more than one occasion without a mike ; he also sang Rossini directed by Placido Domingo . but there still people on youtube saying he doesn't have the voice or the technique!. To me , he may not be the best at opera , but , because there are many legit opera singers out there who certainly are not better at all , he can definitely be called also an opera singer ...
87redsilver 1 year ago
@87redsilver Corelli and Pavarotti were being diplomatic to a blind man. I can't think of a legitimate opera singer who isn't better than Bocelli. Bocelli has a pop voice, but he hasn't the voce, training, technique, or volume to be an opera singer in my opinion and that of many others.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 Nobody gives too much importance whether he's blind or not, not even he does , in fact he plays that down so much that often I don't even remember he is . I guess we just have different opinions, so that's it . He has a pop voice , yes , and also an operatic voice which nobody in his right mind would call or consider pop . Pavarotti said 9his words ) that who didn't understand Bocelli is a great singer "has their ears covered with prosciutto' . That about sums it up .
87redsilver 1 year ago
@87redsilver I still stand by what I said. Bocelli isn't an opera singer and shouldn't be singing opera.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@87redsilver You don't understand at all what arpeggio says. We don't hate Bocelli, neither her or me, and don't put too much attention to his blindness, but if some popular REAL opera singers are just being diplomatic with the blind man or just not being honest presenting their collegues who serve the MARKET, and THE MARKET dictates its conditions that everybody has to be POLITE with artists who only make MONEY... it doesn't mean that Bocelli is a REAL OPERA SINGER! He is good as a POP SINGER!
serenaluce 1 year ago
@serenaluce Well said, serenaluce.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
that is his genius ..."he's not very operatic", someone said above ...he maintained the tenor sound , but got rid of all those vocal mannerisms that made a tenor "too operatic" in the modern world ...so now you have lots of people back to the theaters ...he saved opera and made the tenor more modern...still keeping a beautiful sound and all the technique ...plus , who said you can not hear him without a mic ? I can hear him perfectly on this one .
87redsilver 2 years ago
@87redsilver Listen to the sound. He's miked!
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358
I'm listening . He's not .
87redsilver 1 year ago
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ahmad123987 2 years ago
@ahmad123987 Bravo !
87redsilver 1 year ago
merda
giacintogranditenori 3 years ago 2
pezzo di merda
bobrideout 3 years ago 4
si pezzo di merda
antitenor 3 years ago 2
ok i don´t like his singing stile... it´s not very operatic or emotional to the outside ... wich coul be a disatvantage because of his blindnes. If the Director was a little more creative, he could have made a little more contact with the audience, or just act a little more!! This looks like ... well... not good and sounds... well not good in my opinion. but hey! He sells records, and that´s what the classical world needs!
atzedeno1 3 years ago
But his voice in Carmen is still very good !!
tranxuannghia 2 years ago
@atzedeno1 he's a "modern traditional tenor"...he's singing style sounds too "cool" for opera purists , but that's exactly what brought masses back to opera . He got rid of what modern pop and jazz music listeners found "funny'- because it was antiquated- in operatic siniging . He renovated opera singing and at the same time applied the technique to pop making pop singing better and bringing pop singers back to studying some real technique . That's what the snobbish purists don't see .
87redsilver 1 year ago
Posso capire la critica alla voce, ma se alcuni di voi criticano il fatto di essere statico sul palco ho come l' impressione che vi scordiate un piccolo particolare: è cieco, e non è facile muoversi!
latinlov88 3 years ago
Io non capisco neanche la critica alla voce ...ha un suono migliore di tanti grandi tenori ...forse dipende da che tipo di musica si ascolta di solito ...
87redsilver 2 years ago
disgusting....
cleanears 3 years ago
the guy is right
antitenor 3 years ago
Why bother to sing a real opera? Everyone knows he can't project his voice enough to be heard efficiently in a real opera production. Bocelli needs to stick to popera and concerts and recording albums.
GermanOperaSinger 3 years ago
Putting aside Andrea's many musical talents, playing about seven musical instruments as well as singing like an angle, remember his is also a Doctor of Laws, those who critcize should ask themselves;
"What have I accomplished?" He is truly inspirational to us all.
sandicatt 3 years ago 2
I'm not sure what an 'angle' sounds like...didn't pay attention in high school geometry.
What have I accomplished? Well, enough.
GermanOperaSinger 3 years ago
@GermanOperaSinger You knew well the guy just mispelled angel , so don't giive us your tight ass sarcasm . You are just jealous because he's making a lot of money . If he sounded just like another opera asinger , he would have not been that successful . Success does not always mean talent . In his case he does . He can't project enough ? He can still sing better than a lot of opera singers .
87redsilver 1 year ago
@87redsilver I'm not jealous of anyone. I could care less about money. He is a sellout, plain and simple. I will agree that some aspects of his technique are better than many professional operatic tenors TODAY (not those of 60 years ago), but he has zero support which is why he can't be heard without a mike. And his voice is really nothing special. Have you actually HEARD real operatic tenors? And no the '3 goons' concerts don't count.
GermanOperaSinger 1 year ago
@GermanOperaSinger May I quote that "3 goons" line,, as long as I give you credit for it? LOL! That's wonderful! I'd always wondered what they should be called.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
crap he cannot sing opera he should stick popshit
antitenor 3 years ago
We attended this opera and thoroly enjoyed it. Bocelli can sing opera for us any time.
His interpretation of the Flower Song was perfection.
cdpar 3 years ago
@cdpar Why don't the jealous purists listen do people like YOU ?!
87redsilver 1 year ago
poor
kalimakis 3 years ago 6
freak show
anthonisenscheisse 3 years ago 5
You are a sicko! get a life!
sandicatt 3 years ago
he should start reading the score the freak
bobrideout 3 years ago
bravo freak show
antitenor 3 years ago
you too dumdum
antitenor 3 years ago
he should study the score while singing
baritonosloman 3 years ago 8
very true, he cannot read a score
antitenor 3 years ago 7
And your point is ?
carolina1954 3 years ago
He is blind you morons, how is he suppose to study the score while singing. You should keep your mouths shut about what you know nothing about.
Lorilie1154 3 years ago
you know fucko lorilie1154 Bocelli sucks
antitenor 3 years ago
orrore voce di merda
antitenor 3 years ago 7
Bravo antitenor CATTIVO
bobrideout 3 years ago 7
@antitenor grande voce
87redsilver 1 year ago
Sei stato lì il giorno che ci sono andata anche io....effettivamente Bocelli non si sente alla lunga distanza, e pare che questo sia un "difetto" anche della Bartoli....ma me l'hanno riferito, non lo dico io, eh!!!
grafab2001 3 years ago 2
Orrendo!!Ho avuto la sfortuna di essere li alla prima recita.
Voce piccolissima(non si sente a 10 metri)Francese indescribibile,antimusicale e si muove-purtroppoessendo cieco-come un automata.
Qualcuno lo ferme prima che continue a fare cose che non sa fare!
Va bene col microfono e per canzonette da disco-bar ma la lirica...
Vergogna Teatro dell'Opera di Roma che avete dato un contratto a questo disastro di cantante.
Vergogna Ernani,vergogna Trombetta!
lacaf1 3 years ago 6
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Grazie, meravglioso sentire la voce senza microphone.
ellainvt 3 years ago