The Spitzer Study of Ex-Gays: Flaws and Abuse - PART 1

[angelscorpio13]

APA (American Psychiatric Asotiation) practically committed a crime yielding to the lobby gay pressure of saying that Homosexuality is another option when don't. Those gays that are not happy with gay lifestyle has the right to change and this right most not be denied. Gay lifestyle is corrupt, promiscuous and filthy. Those who still keep some of that family values and morals still remain in the shadow but in pain because gay lifestyle doesn't offer a healthy way of life.

[doucetentation]

Don't you all think pure homosexuality could have psychological causes? Are people born gay? I think a minority of them are...not saying it is an illness or anything like that but from my point of view human beings are naturally heterosexuals with rare bisexual tendencies.

[leojboby]

LOl nessy!

[supaspydamn]

This is so true and scary!

[gcoppinger]

thanks!!

[ratpat]

I don't have an issue with Dr. Spitzer research, it's the way it is misused by "traditional values" groups that pisses me off. Some people have changed themselves to the point where they feel they are living a "completely" heterosexual life. Thats there choice, but his research in no way says that this means homosexuality or sexual orientation is a choice or that it should or must be changed like many of the conservative Christian groups proclaim.

[Telekenesis123]

Just because it does not happen that often does not mean people should have the CHOICE to explore mabey being gay is a problem for them. Don't you "guys" believe in....choice? Or is this more left-wing hypocricy?

[Amstelkid]

Ex-gay's are the real gays.

Thay are scared for what thay desire, get over it! You only stick to lying which is also not allowed to do as it says in the bible...

I'm born as a christian and never been to the church which i think is something that will only eat away your time god gave you to build a better world.

Ps. This might not have annything to do with the video but it does have something to do with beeing a Ex-Gay/Gay.

[electronicoffee]

LOL! You were not BORN as a Christian and to say such a thing makes you show that you are not only ignorant but a fool as well to continue to believe that.

You obviously have no reason to post on this video as your comment not only didn't make logical sense but has nothing to do with the video or the discussion. FAIL.

[CricketsChirp]

XD I lol'd @ Nessy

[MaxZyrix]

I found myself loling at that too! XD

[ecogrrl]

Thanks for these videos. I've really enjoyed your blog and am enjoying these as well.

[warrenthrockmorton]

The study had a very narrow focus. Bob Spitzer wanted to see if essentially no one could change. He believes such change to be rare but not impossible. The criticisms here could be leveled at much social science research including Shidlo and Schroeder that found harm from attempts to change.

[Lambertsonassis]

The methodological concerns of Spitzer's study that are expressed in this video are the type of limitations you would expect of this type of study, taking into consideration its purpose and the type of research. Considering the study's purpose, participant referrers, religious background, etc becomes irrelevant. This video would become more credible if it focused on the real problem of Spitzer's study, which can be inferred by the comments of Cohen and Savin-Williams.

[Emproph]

4:44: Cohen and Savin-Williams: "Spitzer selected a unique group of subjects who were decidedly invested in demonstrating the possibility and benefits of reparative therapy. This one fatal flaw seriously diminishes the internal and external validity of his study and necessarily precludes the very conclusions Spitzer offered."

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So are you saying there should have been more focus on the corruption of the study itself rather than the religious corruption that promotes it?

[leojboby]

Being a Catholic it really doesnt matter if its a small or unique group that succeeded. What really matters is believing that homosexuality is explicitly condemned in the Bible and therefore to have a homosexual life is wrong.

The RIGHT thing to do is to be celibate or CHANGE... if this proves that ppl CAN change it really doesnt matter if the group is small.

[leojboby]

Note: Homosexuals are already condemned. Being free of that is to live the biblical verse we're all familiar with, that few shall go to heaven.

[judderwocky]

oh i get it... the freedom to act and think like you....

but not act like what I want??

How is that your religion makes people free by changing their belief about an arbitrary personality trait? that sounds like the opposite of freedom to me. .. of course they used to do the same with left handed kids.