31 dislikes those people most properly listen to Lmfao, lil wayne and the general shit you get in todays clubs, this is why Drum n Bass and dubstep was created to listen to some real music, not something which any fucker could of made and repeat the same line throughout the song "sexy and you know it". People need to stop listening to beats which you should be listening to in primary school and accept that this is true club music. DnB Domination I will drink to that!
Could everybody shut the fuck up about Pendulum on every freaking Sub Focus video already?
Seriously, stop connecting them to eachother, they're both great, PERIOD.
That and WOOPWOOP kick-arse song, was hoping he'd come to Elements festival in Belgium, would've made the line-up even sicker ..
Atm the headlines DnB and dub-wise are BSE, Spor, Borgore, Radium, Counterstrike, Panacea, Broken Note and I:GOR, if he joined .. it'd be too freaking awesome O.O
@noxzorz ha ha ha ha. 'Vault', 'Back to you' & The 'Hold your colour' album DONE. 90% of the rest of the pish they make isn't worth listening to. Can't say the same for Sub-Focus though! They're bloody legendary! For all the haters: I'm a liquid DnB fan so don't give a shit what you call Drums PLUS Bass.
pendulum have lost alot of shine, think back to terminal epic tune and epic sets now its all turned to shit although they are good just cant respect them as much anymore
@greena987 pendulum are mainstreem now, they quit being underground...because it sucked and it didnt get them half the money and popularite they have now
you cant really compare pendulum and sub focus. for one your comparing a band to one person obviously the band has the upper hand. 2 theyre to different styles so you cant say one is better than the other. when it comes down to it its just preference and everybody likes different things.
The term "commercial" is probably one of the most missused terms on the whole wide world.
Personally i can't compare Penudlum to Subfocus, they've a very diffrent style. For me Pendulum has a harder, more edgy style while Subfocus uses "gentle" and smooth tunes even for his harder tracks.
And about Pendulums development: Like it or leave it.
Reading the comments under Sub´s videos makes me wonder...is everything mainstream crap for u "real" dnb lowers? What if some ppl like mainstream dnb more then ur "deep" or if u like underground dnb? Big bucks = mainstream, 99% of u guys here dont have the slithest idea about showbizz. Dont like it - dont listen to it, why the fuck are u crying under a utube video??
I dunno why do you all talk about Pendulum here lol :D Pendulum aren't even real DnB, they suck. Too commercial. Sub Focus starts to be commercial too, but he still has a big talent, and his tracks still have some special power in it. Keep rollin' babe! :D
The main problem i have with Sub Focus music is that it builds up and then lets you down, it needs a grander, phatter beat after the build up (0.55 onwards) see what i mean? The tune is great but it really needs a kick in the face beat as the music just sounds too thin. . Same can be said bout rock it, fuckin great track but it lets u down after an awesome build up. .
@Levymk But what happens the 99% of the time when you just listen to it thru headphones? Pendulum manage it with most of their tracks so why can't this kid? Oh well goin to see them both soon so i don't care lol, it'll still be mint =D
@Barnsleyfc4life Dude download an early version of this track in a proper bitrate. All the stuff on his album sounds so much softer, I wasnt keen on rock it.
well it is but I also disagree all of the songs I have heard from sub focus are insane especially the remix or mixed ones those just blow my head.....
@dntyuwshyrgfwsrwlkme I dunno man, Pendulum has seem to have gone down the tube lately, theres only 2 or 3 good songs off of their new album (Immersion). The rest just sounds like watered down tracks from their other album In Silico. Their old old stuff is legendary but I don't think they will be able to return to that sound, they're more of a band type now. Before you break your teeth from rage and retaliate on my youtube post, this is simply my opinion; nothing more.
@dntyuwshyrgfwsrwlkme what the fuck you talkin bout. i mean they TOTALLY sold out and even tho Sub Focus is famous. HE KEEPS IT REAL. Fame doesnt mean shit unless you sign with warner like them dbags who ruined their name
Pendulum.. do you mean rob swire? I think he produce all the pendulum stuff alone in his chamber xD Hold your colour on Breakbeat Kaos is the best album.. in silico and inmmersion.. maybe.. all the same..wont be like hyc =)
@TheJnor psssssssssssssh whatever man pendulum kicks ass not cos of genre but because of pure invention. music is meant to be listened to not analyzed their new album is the shit look up "Pendulum- Set Me On Fire" dope ass track coming out soon
Sub Focus performing at the launch of Together Season One Friday 12th March @ The Coronet, Elephant and Castle, London. Other performances including Mylo, Zombie Nation and Kode 9.
Do not miss out on one of the freshest and hottest club nights of the year!
For more information head to the Together website (together-club) or Ticketweb.
KENION WILL LIVE FOREVER.
Justfebreezeit 1 week ago
I love Drum and Bass. Is anyone here a Hardcore fan as well?
Coml3teBliss 2 weeks ago
this track is just timeless!!
kalaandroid 3 weeks ago
31 dislikes those people most properly listen to Lmfao, lil wayne and the general shit you get in todays clubs, this is why Drum n Bass and dubstep was created to listen to some real music, not something which any fucker could of made and repeat the same line throughout the song "sexy and you know it". People need to stop listening to beats which you should be listening to in primary school and accept that this is true club music. DnB Domination I will drink to that!
y103269j 2 months ago
love em
Shizzlebag 2 months ago
temazooooooooooo!!!
inti8819 3 months ago
This is my phone model. X-Ray
InvisibleLTU 3 months ago
FFS stop changing youtube dammit
bassjunkie223 4 months ago
Kenion #1
ghazwan573 4 months ago
Thumbs up if you listen to this in your car driving top speed.
closer2greatness 4 months ago 2
GO!
trnupmydubstep 6 months ago
drum n bass is all dance laid bare only, the only true form of pure music at its most basic.... so shurrup haters...lol
777jamieh 6 months ago
at 1:22 I checked my skype
cyborgchimpy 7 months ago
@cyborgchimpy ... why ? ......
adamanFTtitwell 6 months ago
atm, couldnt give a shit bout dustep or dubwise wot is it, music for D&B heads who cant dance fast enuf ????????????????????????
rickribz1 8 months ago
nice. very fun to listen to
constantupgrader 9 months ago
this tune is in every set i do standard u wud have to be anne frank not to like this lol
ryanbabbage 9 months ago
LONG LIVE ALL DUBSTEP/JUNGLE/DRUM&BASS ETC
777jamieh 9 months ago
@777jamieh dubstep needs to die already or go back to its roots
karenski420 6 months ago
So glad I have this on vinyl
aznhator 9 months ago
xray is the best
ZDINNER 10 months ago
nirvana- breed, influence right there, boh !
MrScopedj 11 months ago 3
it makes me wings !!!!!!
xMissyXInkdx 11 months ago
if you hear carefully you will hear nirvana's Breed in the background !1!!! nice
popeterito 1 year ago
pendulum ownes =). and before we get into a debate. i didnt say i dont like sub focus =D
boffinindahouse 1 year ago
I've been listening to DNB since 1993 and SUB FOCUS is by far one of the best! Big Up 2 All The Rest!
rszocs 1 year ago
i am fish
22NoReSnToBtL 1 year ago 59
@22NoReSnToBtL fish - bone =D
johanessik 5 months ago
@22NoReSnToBtL Do you like fishdicks?
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@501stCZ i'm a gayfish!
GRADLU 1 month ago
how can you keep comparing? its like saying someone does rap and then everyone else raps? same type, different beats so shush... DnB 8)
justfunnythings 1 year ago
Like this if you listened to it in Eviscerape 2!
JandLbros 1 year ago 3
@JandLbros one of my favorite pvp vids ever
taurezBWR 1 year ago
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xdeadpoolx11 1 year ago
Pendulum old albums> Sub focus
Pendulum new album<pile of dog shit<sub focus
mathwiz114 1 year ago
@mathwiz114 fuck you you cunt sub focus is so much better than pendulum
huwjc 1 year ago
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Mayuroses 1 year ago
quality choon but they stole the bass line from the nirvana song breed.
Mayuroses 1 year ago
@Mayuroses
its called sampling not stealing
loads of artists have been doin it for years.
xdeadpoolx11 1 year ago
Love this song!
D3xLes51n 1 year ago
i hate pendulum!!!
danekearney323 1 year ago
pendulum and sub focus, both are great, end of discussion!!!
marcoroman123 1 year ago
u guys shud check out concord dawn pure nz dnb
xXJOSHY59Xx 1 year ago
Wtf, are people really discussing about pendulum being better than sub focus.. :D u kidding me...
tekoheko 1 year ago
used this in my latest mix
check it out,
Tunne!
stillbillstillbillst 1 year ago
The best song ever in DnB
LittleBird841 1 year ago
Thumbs up if ....... oh wait, I'm not a dickhead
TheRobobum 1 year ago
the best
wrobel1980r 1 year ago
zajebisty kawalek zawsze jan na imperie ten kawalek leci to dodatkowy przyplew enerig we mnie wstepuje
wrobel1980r 1 year ago
@wrobel1980r
Hell yeah; you're talking true shit man!
spread the word
engelsetuin 1 year ago
this is sick!!!
marta02225 1 year ago
wow
Paitro202 1 year ago
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F2289 1 year ago
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dizzydan111 1 year ago
Nirvana Breed + Sub Focus = JUMPING ALL NIGHT!
jeli780 1 year ago
awesome! <3
111misza111 1 year ago
weee, first DnB song I ever heard :D it made me addicted :)
dickmaas 1 year ago
@dickmaas mine was slam- by pendulum
ThreeDaysOfDan 1 year ago
@ThreeDaysOfDan blood sugar by pendulum but im only just starting to fund stuff cos im lazy
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@ThreeDaysOfDan blood sugar by pendulum but im only just starting to find stuff cos im lazy
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111misza111 1 year ago
This is a very nice tune! Reminds me of Pendulum when they were a hardcore D&B band.
Boynky 1 year ago
The bassline seems to be stolen from Nirvana - Breed
Doesn't make this song less awesome tho. =D
conceit2 1 year ago
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conceit2 1 year ago
Could everybody shut the fuck up about Pendulum on every freaking Sub Focus video already?
Seriously, stop connecting them to eachother, they're both great, PERIOD.
That and WOOPWOOP kick-arse song, was hoping he'd come to Elements festival in Belgium, would've made the line-up even sicker ..
Atm the headlines DnB and dub-wise are BSE, Spor, Borgore, Radium, Counterstrike, Panacea, Broken Note and I:GOR, if he joined .. it'd be too freaking awesome O.O
noxzorz 1 year ago 39
@noxzorz in YOUR point of view OFC.
mafi0tu 1 year ago
@noxzorz The thing they have in common, is that they 'were' both good, but are now shite!!!
jumpupdnbdj 1 year ago
@noxzorz ha ha ha ha. 'Vault', 'Back to you' & The 'Hold your colour' album DONE. 90% of the rest of the pish they make isn't worth listening to. Can't say the same for Sub-Focus though! They're bloody legendary! For all the haters: I'm a liquid DnB fan so don't give a shit what you call Drums PLUS Bass.
MajorComedown 10 months ago
@noxzorz pendulum is like shit
69BigMac96 7 months ago
Tbh every one im into sick dnb wid da wobble bassline like
the force - Killyoukiller
brapgeorge 1 year ago
pendulum r shitt loool sub focus r the bestt!!
thiss iss a sickkkleee tuneee
dann1232008 1 year ago
i love how ths song starts
SALT909 1 year ago
pendulum have lost alot of shine, think back to terminal epic tune and epic sets now its all turned to shit although they are good just cant respect them as much anymore
greena987 1 year ago
@greena987 pendulum are mainstreem now, they quit being underground...because it sucked and it didnt get them half the money and popularite they have now
coldplay0009 1 year ago
pendulum, fucking class....but whenu see them live fucking amazing
elwyndee 1 year ago
you cant really compare pendulum and sub focus. for one your comparing a band to one person obviously the band has the upper hand. 2 theyre to different styles so you cant say one is better than the other. when it comes down to it its just preference and everybody likes different things.
bigrudy09 1 year ago 2
OMG 13 dislikes are deaf????
avalon0101 1 year ago
@avalon0101 Nay, young squire... we have yet 14 heratics 0_0` KIIIIIIIIIILLL!!!!!
59n1tr0n72 1 year ago
@59n1tr0n72 young squire?? oO?
avalon0101 1 year ago
@avalon0101 aye laddy. bring out ye muskets! (sorry on permenant high due to this song =3)
59n1tr0n72 1 year ago 3
The term "commercial" is probably one of the most missused terms on the whole wide world.
Personally i can't compare Penudlum to Subfocus, they've a very diffrent style. For me Pendulum has a harder, more edgy style while Subfocus uses "gentle" and smooth tunes even for his harder tracks.
And about Pendulums development: Like it or leave it.
They still create great sounds.
Aspartem 1 year ago
THIS is pendulum!!!!!!! WTF??
HonoriusTM 1 year ago
@HonoriusTM wat
Skullkilling 1 year ago
@HonoriusTM isnt pendulum. pendulum is a bit more quality. but this is also good :)
YourMindslush 1 year ago
FUCKING TUNE!!!!
Jsizzle181 1 year ago
Reading the comments under Sub´s videos makes me wonder...is everything mainstream crap for u "real" dnb lowers? What if some ppl like mainstream dnb more then ur "deep" or if u like underground dnb? Big bucks = mainstream, 99% of u guys here dont have the slithest idea about showbizz. Dont like it - dont listen to it, why the fuck are u crying under a utube video??
salapalake 1 year ago
sub focus around 2004 was fucking good. this sounds as gay and as commercial as pendulum
simonking195 1 year ago
@simonking195 this track was like 05
Skullkilling 1 year ago
How can you dislike it? it's an absolute tune!
julesufool 1 year ago 5
damn this sub focus has terrible songs, or if it sound cool then it will be ruined with some idiot parts...
DemeterHUN 1 year ago
I dunno why do you all talk about Pendulum here lol :D Pendulum aren't even real DnB, they suck. Too commercial. Sub Focus starts to be commercial too, but he still has a big talent, and his tracks still have some special power in it. Keep rollin' babe! :D
MrDjAltec 1 year ago
check out my Sub Focus & Rihanna "Rock It Rude Boy" Mash-Up on my youtube channel......HOBBZIFICATION.......it's S I C K ! ! ! !
Hobbzification 1 year ago
Pendulum live are awesome as are the dj sets they do, they really rock ! sub focus also, he is a clever man ;-)
shewilmartoy 1 year ago
subfocus iz badboy got the new random cocept free from bassline. o r g! wit him on cant stop listenin 2 it
langmuireiq1881 1 year ago
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chrisjones998 1 year ago
Dope!!
bull3tpr00f 1 year ago
pendulum only do it for money
sub focus do it cos they love the musik
sub focus are better
custardcup75 1 year ago
@custardcup75 actually there's only one sub focus- just the one bloke. but yeah lol :)
still better than pendulum :P
MrHathouse 1 year ago
pendulum is for little kiddys who dont understand DnB. SubFocus is more professional.
rinator 1 year ago
Pendulum S U C K S BIG OPS Subfocus!
MonsterFlo1 1 year ago
nirvana! and yeah pendulum..
good track. sub got talent
MuXaL1ch 1 year ago
this sounds like a pendulum song but im not sure what 1
jusTice95767 1 year ago
@jusTice95767 I heard this at ultra and could have sworn it was pendulm THIS SONG IS THE SHITTTT
smoke212121 1 year ago
@jusTice95767 it sounds a bit like mutiny by pendulum
monies74 1 year ago
Mono -.-
ZockerkingGold 1 year ago
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great tune !!
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DrumnBassWorld 1 year ago
THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE LISTENED TO UNLESS THERE ARE AT LEAST A MILLION WATTS DRIVING IT, DON'T YOU PEOPLE GET IT?!
Sub Focus was INSANE in Miami @ Ultra 2k'10
spacexhysteria 1 year ago
subfocus iz amazin got the new random concept free from bassline. o r g! wit him and what an album!
sylowdyt20 1 year ago
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sylowdyt20 1 year ago
The main problem i have with Sub Focus music is that it builds up and then lets you down, it needs a grander, phatter beat after the build up (0.55 onwards) see what i mean? The tune is great but it really needs a kick in the face beat as the music just sounds too thin. . Same can be said bout rock it, fuckin great track but it lets u down after an awesome build up. .
Barnsleyfc4life 1 year ago 2
@Barnsleyfc4life
Totally agree :(
H34DLOCK 1 year ago
@Barnsleyfc4life
That's Because the soundquality of the bass is very poor. If you hear it in a venue or festival it's awesome. See also spacexhysteria's comment
Levymk 1 year ago
@Levymk But what happens the 99% of the time when you just listen to it thru headphones? Pendulum manage it with most of their tracks so why can't this kid? Oh well goin to see them both soon so i don't care lol, it'll still be mint =D
Barnsleyfc4life 1 year ago
@Barnsleyfc4life Dude download an early version of this track in a proper bitrate. All the stuff on his album sounds so much softer, I wasnt keen on rock it.
hobofuture 1 year ago
@Barnsleyfc4life Exactly! He lays out these great build ups and can't ever seem to every hit you hard
thatguy0693 1 year ago
HAH! at last I find this track :P 2 years after kenion (evicerape 2) used it in his movie
Tiaan90 1 year ago
lol, subfocus, pendulum, go listen to Fresh, TeeBee, Ed Rush or Noisia :P
Aenemaful 1 year ago 2
Sub Focus or Old Pendulum? I know what I'd pick
Playingkyle2k9 1 year ago
MENTAL !
MiniManiMuH 1 year ago
fuck off pendulum this is actually good!!!!
D1FunKD 1 year ago
wtf is wrong with you? Pendulum is sick as hell!
usandthem88 1 year ago 3
yeh but pendulum isnt true drum and bass, they use drums and guitars and make metal signs on stage nd its gay as fuck
pendulumharry 1 year ago
@pendulumharry that's why it's called instrumental drum and bass
kipieslim 1 year ago
well it is but I also disagree all of the songs I have heard from sub focus are insane especially the remix or mixed ones those just blow my head.....
Tomovski08 1 year ago
Timeless Chooooooooon!
fick die bude kaputt!
Play that Tune and u can get sure the pepps destroy the floor
MonsterFlo1 2 years ago
Help me plz
#5 nAME SOng Epic!!!
/watch?v=0EtSgIMsFwo
MilagritosLince19 2 years ago
i disagree, pendulum is still awesome
dntyuwshyrgfwsrwlkme 2 years ago 94
@dntyuwshyrgfwsrwlkme U wont see Pendulum at proper
D&B nights
dynamicz108 1 year ago 3
@dntyuwshyrgfwsrwlkme I dunno man, Pendulum has seem to have gone down the tube lately, theres only 2 or 3 good songs off of their new album (Immersion). The rest just sounds like watered down tracks from their other album In Silico. Their old old stuff is legendary but I don't think they will be able to return to that sound, they're more of a band type now. Before you break your teeth from rage and retaliate on my youtube post, this is simply my opinion; nothing more.
Elixus 1 year ago
@dntyuwshyrgfwsrwlkme what the fuck you talkin bout. i mean they TOTALLY sold out and even tho Sub Focus is famous. HE KEEPS IT REAL. Fame doesnt mean shit unless you sign with warner like them dbags who ruined their name
247porkchop 1 year ago
@dntyuwshyrgfwsrwlkme thanks, i think so too they are so great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YourMindslush 1 year ago
@dntyuwshyrgfwsrwlkme
pendulum is better then ever ;)
coldplay0009 1 year ago
@dntyuwshyrgfwsrwlkme
Pendulum.. do you mean rob swire? I think he produce all the pendulum stuff alone in his chamber xD Hold your colour on Breakbeat Kaos is the best album.. in silico and inmmersion.. maybe.. all the same..wont be like hyc =)
Marktyy 1 year ago
@dntyuwshyrgfwsrwlkme Pendulums last album was total crap, theyve changed into MTV shit...
jejek1994 1 year ago 2
@dntyuwshyrgfwsrwlkme pendulum just owns all other dnb
boffinindahouse 1 year ago
@boffinindahouse
haha your joking right???
danekearney323 1 year ago
I think EZ Rollers is better than Pendulum.
Tehmuumi 2 years ago
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fuck pendulum!!!!!
voron94 2 years ago
@voron94 fuck you
alyal6969 1 year ago
Trackz amazing its on the new drum n bass awards I got free from bassline.o rg albumz sickkk
TheKatieb90 2 years ago
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subfocus iz smashin it jus got the new dnb awards free from bassline.oorg with him on and its badboy!
amybroth1990 2 years ago
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Sub Focus is playing at the launch of TOGETHER: Season One Friday 12th March @ The Coronet, Elephant and Castle, London.
Line-up includes Mylo, Zombie Nation, Kode 9, Doorly, and many more!
Do not miss out on one of the freshest and hottest club nights of the year!
For more information head to the Together website
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LockNLoadEvents 2 years ago
Sub Focus <3
THEpostel26 2 years ago
omg :)
Thianyta 2 years ago
I must grudgingly agree that pendulum has lost a bit of shine
TheJnor 2 years ago 39
@TheJnor
pendulum lost a bit of shine about 4 years ago lol
chibiryuhe 2 years ago 2
@TheJnor psssssssssssssh whatever man pendulum kicks ass not cos of genre but because of pure invention. music is meant to be listened to not analyzed their new album is the shit look up "Pendulum- Set Me On Fire" dope ass track coming out soon
JohnnyCrust 1 year ago
@TheJnor Have you heard 'Immunize'?! That's the definition of awesome!
BlueVane 1 year ago
@TheJnor a bit?!?!?!
DjShock94 1 year ago
they sound a bit different than before
coolgames14 1 year ago
@TheJnor immersion was a good album :) no match to Spor, Nero, Noisia, Sub Focus and stuff though... but they're still good
0Skate4Jesus0 1 year ago
@TheJnor which is lame, bc they still are pretty bad ass.. .but i unfortunately have to agree with you a little..
Zombs123 1 year ago
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Do not miss out on one of the freshest and hottest club nights of the year!
For more information head to the Together website (together-club) or Ticketweb.
LockNLoadEvents 2 years ago
You gotta love the Nirvana riff! Sub Focus at his best!
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subfocus is one of the best! Just got the new drum n bass anthems free from bassline. org with em on friggin sick!
basslinegirl12 2 years ago
OMG love this song!!!!
anyone got DJ hero?
I love Noisia - Ground hog. Thats got a sik bass!!!!
Playingkyle2k9 2 years ago
this sounds like something from Pendulum Ive heard
HExtab12 2 years ago 2
@HExtab12 Why does everyone think that any drum and bass with some synth in it sounds like pendulum?!? You suck, man!
postingmycomments 2 years ago
It sure does
Griushe 2 years ago
Long Live The DnB!!!
tudorsk8 2 years ago 3
-.-'
MrJako96 2 years ago
pendulum. awful
montg2perfection 2 years ago
yawn at the new-gen happy crappy shit.. CHEEESSEEE.. 90's jungle & hardcore ftw
jimingtonswellies 2 years ago
look guys. Sub Focus is totally awesome, but he is PLASTIC Drum'n'Bass
that doesn't make it bad, his music is totally great
jani972 2 years ago
Whats that mean then?
Lewisly1 2 years ago
I always get an adrenaline rush of this track!
Yippeekiyay82 2 years ago
DRUM N BASS~!!!
samuscold 2 years ago
cool tune
lancieboi1 2 years ago
fucking awesome i dont even usually listen to this stuff but sub focus is a beast
PrivateRyan798 2 years ago
YT SIRUS1571 FOR UNRELEASED DNB
SIRUS1571 2 years ago
stfu
WilleOMG 2 years ago 4
tune
knightzy2009 2 years ago
real classic but real love it
R0x0r1990 2 years ago
guitar riff from nirvana - breed
sub focus ftw.
dubmention 2 years ago 9