1. The main layer (the original scan) still PROVES he was born in the USA.
(even if everything else was "faked")
2. As a "designer" you should also recognize that things get re-touched for legability. You can see the "ghosted" font of the original (likely unlegable) still matches the shape of the "faked" font. There is no sign that the letters were changed, simply enhanced.
-''The main layer (the original scan) still PROVES he was born in the USA.''''
You're very wrong. There is no 'main layer', it's gone. It's been replaced with digitally created fonts that COULD be manipulated. That defeats very meaning of a photocopy altogether.
It must be untouched photocopy, or it's not legit. Period.
Its is pathetic that a grown up person like you will be spending your life attacking what some other person has done. I dont know your age, but I am am sure you an adult. Why haven't you realize that you cannot progress in life when your life goal is to put others down? You are more knowledgeable than FBI or CIA who would have discovered that the Birth Certificate is fraud?Common, grow up and high time you wake up and stop your myopic views.
A scan is a flat-file, one-layer image that requires no OCR software, Adobe Illustrator or other application to generate. It is simply a photo-copy of the piece of paper that was layed onto the scanner. The fact that the document presented to the world has ANY sort of layering or 'imagery', (aside from the singular and foundate layer generated in a scan), is proof that some level of deception is afoot.
Opened on Photoshop, why is there a green, water-mark mask portion to this document at all?
@ErnieJMerrill he was born on a military base which is essentially American land. Where's the justification in denying the child of a soldier citizenship in the land his\her parent fights for?
Hey here's your common sense dose of the day. You can SCAN the original and edit it in the Adobe products and yes, it will have everything he talks about in here - and it will recognize the text and you can even correct it to recognize other sections. I know. I do this all the time with school projects and important paperwork. This isn't a scandal, it should be common knowledge for every single person who has ever worked with Adobe. This guy's just preying on most people's ignorance.
As long as his mother is American he would be a citizen if he were born in Tmbuktu.Otherwise if someone got Pregnant on vacation and had a kid they wouldnt be a citizen. What if his mother were in the service and had a kid in Iraq. Would the kid not be American?
As per the constitution, In order to be president both of your parents have to be American citizens at the time of your birth. Regardless of the birth certificate issue, even Obama freely admits that his father was not an American citizen when he was born. Therefore, he is not eligible to president. End of story.
Comment from someone whose friend used to be a designer at Adobe.
"When a PDF is created in certain programs, OCR - optical character recognition - is run. In other words, the system looks at the image and tries to recognize words. If it finds some, it changes the images into searchable text.
Any PDF that has had OCR performed will, when opened in Illustrator, show layers that display the text that has been recognized."
@nick10463 You're very wrong nick. I use Illustrator for years and scanners for years. Maybe longer than you have. This information also comes from someone from Adobe. It's actually not a surprise that you're so ignorant :) of the software. The reason why this is OCR is for the document to be searchable. Yes it could have simply been an image but they did it this way for SEO. OCR does recognize fonts and tries to recreate them. Lol and really, just a $500 software? Go back to school.
So first Obama gets Osama, and a later development is Fox News says his birth certificate is real. He's on a roll! This is really funny.
Fox first explains what our birthing doubters THINK they're seeing--and then concludes the certificate is REAL. I can't show the url, so add the punctuation: foxnews com politics 2011 04 29 expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit
I could see skepticism if this endorsement came from MSNBC or HP, but Fox? Those birthers should really get a day job.
I have been a designer for 10+ years in photoshop and illustrator. This kid is SPOT ON with his assessment of this document. It's obvious, if you even UNDERSTAND layers you can see he found an exploit in the software to figure out how to bring the layers back from the PDF. Way to go dude, I hope someone pays you a boat load of crash for putting this out there.
@nick10463 Check your facts. Congress declared in 1790 that "the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States.".
Not exactly. Natural born means he had to be a citizen from the moment of his birth. That's what the compound adjective 'natural born' means in the English language. A natural born killer is someone who is born a killer. A natural born leader is someone who is born a leader. A natural born citizen is someone who is born a citizen.
Seriously. Your comment is the defining reason that the US is the laughingstock of the entire world. You may want to google "natural born citizen" before touting the term around as though you know what it means.
@lightblueyeball You might want to look up the definition of an argument. Please provide counter evidence, or I'm going correctly assume you're admitting that I am right.
--""This is the dumbest shit I have ever seen""--
Does it mean you didn't understand the evidence, or it means you just don't care that your President has pulled the greatest con in history of America on you? Do you really enjoy having your face covered with a scum substance even if it comes from your Messiah? I find it disturbing.
This guy was an artist, not an IT tech. Scanners detect what it believes are groupings and puts them into separate layers.
The digital senders we worked with at Dell and our account did this, even. I'm in Bartlesville right now, but I can go onto campus in Norman and scan a complicated form to .pdf and send it to you. I guarantee it does the same thing.
--""I can scan a complicated form to .pdf, I guarantee it does the same thing""-
Please do that, we promise we will hold our laughs. Let us know where we can find video of you replicating what the WH did, we will enjoy the show.
Hint: Do what they say they did - print the birth cert on paper first, then scan it into computer, then do your OCR magic to make 95% of original handwritten text disappeared and replaced with digitally created fonts.
@nick10463 Since posting a link in a comment seems to be blocking my post, take this except from Wireupdate. No photoshoping required. No OCR required. What was done was simply optimizing the PDF for distribution and separating the text from the background and surrounding areas helps with file compression and thus produces a smaller sized document for dissemination.
@nick10463 What this artist is showing as proof is invalidated by the fact that this can be duplicated by simply altering some settings on the scanned document. If it IS fake, this video is not proof of that.
hurr durr. someone doesn't know anything about Optical character recognition(OCR). and i can't help but lol @ your CIA conspiracy. i had no idea the CIA was still the modern day boogeyman.
I voted for that lier. Has any president of any country in the word ever faked such a thing? this is pure insanity. why don't they impeach him? 2012, man 2012.
adobe illustrator tries to guess where the layers are by the shading. you can try the same trick with any scanned document. the part where the written part changes is when the pen had to be replaced because if its running out of ink.
I am an expert in all Adobe products and believe this document is real. When you set your scanner there are multiple setting based on the scanner you use that scans the document in the format that we see above. I opened the pdf myself in adobe illustrator and when you turn off all the layers except for the last one you can still see what it says and you can tell that the document is legit. I am republican and would have been very happy to see that this was a fake unfortunately it's not.
For more detail: You will notice how most of the typed text is on the same layer (that is because it is recognized) and is jet black, not shades of dark grey and black (which suffers many black scanned images, be they from pen or inkjet). The exception is the word Date in the lower right hand corner. This is because the "AUG" stamp touches it, making it very difficult to recognize as a word. Scanner software isn't perfect.
P.s. I disagree with the posting, but I'm glad he's looking closely.
Welcome to Adobe: this is an unfortunate (but common) result of the text recognition options they failed to disable before scanning the document. It always ends up this way. I would be more suspicious if this affect wasn't there. You don't think the CIA knows about Adobe layers?
Sec. 21 still kills me,...UKLLEE= UKULALEE,....mwahahahahahaha. They are playing us for fools. If you think about it,...... IT REALY SHOULD JUST PISS ANYONE OFF!!!
this seriously scares me ... its either done by some amateur person who doesn't know what they're doing ... or it was manipulated on purpose - for what means, who knows !
I think it was faked by the CIA. Why do you think CIA Leon Penetta was promoted yesterday into Pentagon Boss? Just the guy who was editing it left layers unlocked either intentionally, so people can find out the truth, or by mistake. Hard to figure.
I think we’re in serious crisis where ELITE is spitting at everyone else and don’t even care if you know that they’re crooks.
They don’t care anymore whether you know the truth or not, they think they got us by the balls.
I want this video on my 7260 unit.
marcuswlnd3 3 weeks ago
you're a dumbass
arzgania 8 months ago
You say "... After Bush and Cheney wiped their asses with it." could you give me a specific example to back up your point?
lightblueyeball 9 months ago
What you fail to mention:
1. The main layer (the original scan) still PROVES he was born in the USA.
(even if everything else was "faked")
2. As a "designer" you should also recognize that things get re-touched for legability. You can see the "ghosted" font of the original (likely unlegable) still matches the shape of the "faked" font. There is no sign that the letters were changed, simply enhanced.
joshpit2003 9 months ago
@joshpit2003
-''The main layer (the original scan) still PROVES he was born in the USA.''''
You're very wrong. There is no 'main layer', it's gone. It's been replaced with digitally created fonts that COULD be manipulated. That defeats very meaning of a photocopy altogether.
It must be untouched photocopy, or it's not legit. Period.
nick10463 9 months ago 2
Its is pathetic that a grown up person like you will be spending your life attacking what some other person has done. I dont know your age, but I am am sure you an adult. Why haven't you realize that you cannot progress in life when your life goal is to put others down? You are more knowledgeable than FBI or CIA who would have discovered that the Birth Certificate is fraud?Common, grow up and high time you wake up and stop your myopic views.
officialespa2009 9 months ago
A scan is a flat-file, one-layer image that requires no OCR software, Adobe Illustrator or other application to generate. It is simply a photo-copy of the piece of paper that was layed onto the scanner. The fact that the document presented to the world has ANY sort of layering or 'imagery', (aside from the singular and foundate layer generated in a scan), is proof that some level of deception is afoot.
Opened on Photoshop, why is there a green, water-mark mask portion to this document at all?
Cowbercy 10 months ago
bin laden is alive, he's president america Obama- explains all the problems
marvin666777 10 months ago
John McCain was born in the Canal Zone in Panama -so is he a citizen who was eligible to be president?
ErnieJMerrill 10 months ago
@ErnieJMerrill he was born on a military base which is essentially American land. Where's the justification in denying the child of a soldier citizenship in the land his\her parent fights for?
OliverKrystal 10 months ago
Hey here's your common sense dose of the day. You can SCAN the original and edit it in the Adobe products and yes, it will have everything he talks about in here - and it will recognize the text and you can even correct it to recognize other sections. I know. I do this all the time with school projects and important paperwork. This isn't a scandal, it should be common knowledge for every single person who has ever worked with Adobe. This guy's just preying on most people's ignorance.
vichesse 10 months ago
As long as his mother is American he would be a citizen if he were born in Tmbuktu.Otherwise if someone got Pregnant on vacation and had a kid they wouldnt be a citizen. What if his mother were in the service and had a kid in Iraq. Would the kid not be American?
BaronVonLichtenstein 10 months ago
@BaronVonLichtenstein
As per the constitution, In order to be president both of your parents have to be American citizens at the time of your birth. Regardless of the birth certificate issue, even Obama freely admits that his father was not an American citizen when he was born. Therefore, he is not eligible to president. End of story.
lightblueyeball 10 months ago
@lightblueyeball You mean what's left of the Constitution after Bush and Cheney wiped their ass with it.
BaronVonLichtenstein 10 months ago
@lightblueyeball you're just so freaking wrong. Seriously.
ErnieJMerrill 10 months ago
@ErnieJMerrill Ok, tell me why I'm wrong.
lightblueyeball 9 months ago
I wonder if Donald Trump saw this.... It would be funny after he was totally humiliated by Obama at the correspondents' dinner.
worldlaw 10 months ago
Comment from someone whose friend used to be a designer at Adobe.
"When a PDF is created in certain programs, OCR - optical character recognition - is run. In other words, the system looks at the image and tries to recognize words. If it finds some, it changes the images into searchable text.
Any PDF that has had OCR performed will, when opened in Illustrator, show layers that display the text that has been recognized."
JerlynThomas 10 months ago
@JerlynThomas
You need some catch up to do. We know about OCR and I know how it works.
To make it short - this is manual work, OCR cannot recognize and perfectly replace 99% of handwritten abracadabra with digitally created fonts, ever.
Even when I use $500 Abbyy OCR software, it can't do what Obama got, no way no how. And Abbyy is the best technology there is! So, put it to rest.
Besides, replacing 99% of scanned text with new digital fonts defeat meaning of photocopy altogether.
nick10463 10 months ago
@nick10463 You're very wrong nick. I use Illustrator for years and scanners for years. Maybe longer than you have. This information also comes from someone from Adobe. It's actually not a surprise that you're so ignorant :) of the software. The reason why this is OCR is for the document to be searchable. Yes it could have simply been an image but they did it this way for SEO. OCR does recognize fonts and tries to recreate them. Lol and really, just a $500 software? Go back to school.
JerlynThomas 10 months ago 2
@JerlynThomas by the way, would be interesting if he actually wasn't American for the History Books. However, who cares -- they got Osama!
JerlynThomas 10 months ago
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So first Obama gets Osama, and a later development is Fox News says his birth certificate is real. He's on a roll! This is really funny.
Fox first explains what our birthing doubters THINK they're seeing--and then concludes the certificate is REAL. I can't show the url, so add the punctuation: foxnews com politics 2011 04 29 expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit
I could see skepticism if this endorsement came from MSNBC or HP, but Fox? Those birthers should really get a day job.
remember2050 10 months ago
U.S.A. + Americans = SHIT
brunoXsalir 10 months ago
Ho hum. Who cares!
ace69er 10 months ago
@ace69er
--""Ho hum. Who cares!""--
Tens of millions of Americans do care. Not too many people are so anamorphic like you, when their main law of the Land is being brutally violated.
Did I answer your question?
nick10463 10 months ago
I have been a designer for 10+ years in photoshop and illustrator. This kid is SPOT ON with his assessment of this document. It's obvious, if you even UNDERSTAND layers you can see he found an exploit in the software to figure out how to bring the layers back from the PDF. Way to go dude, I hope someone pays you a boat load of crash for putting this out there.
Nicka317 10 months ago
Even if he wasn't born in the US, he's still a natural born citizen. Which means he is still eligible to be President.
j1mbug 10 months ago
@j1mbug
--""Even if he wasn't born in the US, he's still a natural born citizen.""--
I'm afraid with such dumbed down citizenry like you, this country is going to hell.
nick10463 10 months ago 2
@nick10463 Check your facts. Congress declared in 1790 that "the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States.".
Apology accepted =)
j1mbug 10 months ago
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boowho322 9 months ago
@boowho322
Not exactly. Natural born means he had to be a citizen from the moment of his birth. That's what the compound adjective 'natural born' means in the English language. A natural born killer is someone who is born a killer. A natural born leader is someone who is born a leader. A natural born citizen is someone who is born a citizen.
Mystylplx 4 months ago
Seriously. Your comment is the defining reason that the US is the laughingstock of the entire world. You may want to google "natural born citizen" before touting the term around as though you know what it means.
lightblueyeball 10 months ago
@lightblueyeball You might want to look up the definition of an argument. Please provide counter evidence, or I'm going correctly assume you're admitting that I am right.
j1mbug 10 months ago
@j1mbug lol do you know what natural born citizen means
thekoollemon 8 months ago
obama is a fake! get out of our country u illegal immigrant, u should NOT be our president!!!
ASQEW55 10 months ago
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Nice to know that the White House employs graphic designers to waste their time faking birth certificates. Riiiiiiiight.
koshermama 10 months ago
Nice to know that the White House employs graphic designers to waste their time faking birth certificates. Riiiiiiiight.
koshermama 10 months ago
This is the dumbest shit I have ever seen
rallymonkey150 10 months ago 2
@rallymonkey150
--""This is the dumbest shit I have ever seen""--
Does it mean you didn't understand the evidence, or it means you just don't care that your President has pulled the greatest con in history of America on you? Do you really enjoy having your face covered with a scum substance even if it comes from your Messiah? I find it disturbing.
nick10463 10 months ago
@nick10463 are you a dum shit specialist?
adam9997100 10 months ago
@adam9997100
--""are you a dum shit specialist?""--
If in your little world it translates into: whether I know how to use Adobe Illustrator, then answer is yes.
And may I suggest you to quit using Ebonics and learn English?
Do you have any other questions?
nick10463 10 months ago
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@nick10463 are you a dumb shit specialist?
adam9997100 10 months ago
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@nick10463
--""This is the dumbest shit I have ever seen""--
so i anderstand you are a dumbe shit specialist
adam9997100 10 months ago
@rallymonkey150 clear u r not a graphic designer
michalliw 10 months ago
This guy was an artist, not an IT tech. Scanners detect what it believes are groupings and puts them into separate layers.
The digital senders we worked with at Dell and our account did this, even. I'm in Bartlesville right now, but I can go onto campus in Norman and scan a complicated form to .pdf and send it to you. I guarantee it does the same thing.
xenocore01 10 months ago 2
@xenocore01
--""I can scan a complicated form to .pdf, I guarantee it does the same thing""-
Please do that, we promise we will hold our laughs. Let us know where we can find video of you replicating what the WH did, we will enjoy the show.
Hint: Do what they say they did - print the birth cert on paper first, then scan it into computer, then do your OCR magic to make 95% of original handwritten text disappeared and replaced with digitally created fonts.
Let us know how it is going.
nick10463 10 months ago
@nick10463 Since posting a link in a comment seems to be blocking my post, take this except from Wireupdate. No photoshoping required. No OCR required. What was done was simply optimizing the PDF for distribution and separating the text from the background and surrounding areas helps with file compression and thus produces a smaller sized document for dissemination.
If you look for boggymen, you will find them.
xenocore01 10 months ago
@xenocore01
It is sad to see that people like you still wasting valuable time trying to prove that OCR can do what they say it did on Obama's birth certificate.
Plain and simple: OCR cannot pick up and replace 99% of handwritten abracadabra with such high precision and accuracy.
It does not work this way, it's been proved already many times.
Besides, even if it did, doesn't it defeat the meaning of photocopy all together?
You don't know if text was digitally replaced or not - it's not legit.
nick10463 10 months ago
@nick10463 What this artist is showing as proof is invalidated by the fact that this can be duplicated by simply altering some settings on the scanned document. If it IS fake, this video is not proof of that.
xenocore01 10 months ago
@xenocore01 I just tried scanning a document and it does not do this at all. It shows up as a flat image. This seems real!
michalliw 10 months ago
hurr durr. someone doesn't know anything about Optical character recognition(OCR). and i can't help but lol @ your CIA conspiracy. i had no idea the CIA was still the modern day boogeyman.
beallhigh26 10 months ago 2
I voted for that lier. Has any president of any country in the word ever faked such a thing? this is pure insanity. why don't they impeach him? 2012, man 2012.
DrScopeify 10 months ago
illustrator tries to guess where the layers are. try this same trick with ANY scanned document, it will do the same thing. try it, i dare you.
BoringAaron 10 months ago
adobe illustrator tries to guess where the layers are by the shading. you can try the same trick with any scanned document. the part where the written part changes is when the pen had to be replaced because if its running out of ink.
BoringAaron 10 months ago
@BoringAaron LOL nice try. Learn to use the software before commenting.
DrScopeify 10 months ago
OMG! checked it you are right!!!!
this is going to be the scandal of the century !!!
Prowler1 10 months ago 7
Great Analysis. It is a great lecture. I am sure it was done by none official body. Some friend of a friend of Obama. No CIA here.
Love it. Lucky all the people are now with Bin Laden Thing. So we need to wait a few days now..
peled1 10 months ago
checked it myself on illustrator cs5, it's true. i seriously doubt a scanner broke it into layers.
DaRksHaDoW7686 10 months ago
I am an expert in all Adobe products and believe this document is real. When you set your scanner there are multiple setting based on the scanner you use that scans the document in the format that we see above. I opened the pdf myself in adobe illustrator and when you turn off all the layers except for the last one you can still see what it says and you can tell that the document is legit. I am republican and would have been very happy to see that this was a fake unfortunately it's not.
shmoollee 10 months ago
I can scan to paint... who uses fancy software for a SIMPLE scan...
btw.. a scanner cannot run BW and Color at the same time.. faked scan is fake...
Vangrungy 10 months ago
That's pretty neat, but I don't really care if he's a foreigner
dickinson1027 10 months ago
@dickinson1027
The Constitution of the US does.
Machefsky 10 months ago
So his name is fake too. He must be a lizard creature from space.
JonB83 10 months ago 9
@JonB83 reptilians
spidez8407 9 months ago
For more detail: You will notice how most of the typed text is on the same layer (that is because it is recognized) and is jet black, not shades of dark grey and black (which suffers many black scanned images, be they from pen or inkjet). The exception is the word Date in the lower right hand corner. This is because the "AUG" stamp touches it, making it very difficult to recognize as a word. Scanner software isn't perfect.
P.s. I disagree with the posting, but I'm glad he's looking closely.
kvtchr 10 months ago
Welcome to Adobe: this is an unfortunate (but common) result of the text recognition options they failed to disable before scanning the document. It always ends up this way. I would be more suspicious if this affect wasn't there. You don't think the CIA knows about Adobe layers?
kvtchr 10 months ago 3
Sec. 21 still kills me,...UKLLEE= UKULALEE,....mwahahahahahaha. They are playing us for fools. If you think about it,...... IT REALY SHOULD JUST PISS ANYONE OFF!!!
catnkaboodle 10 months ago
Wait, so you can take the signature layer and forge documents?
AviatorStudios 10 months ago
this seriously scares me ... its either done by some amateur person who doesn't know what they're doing ... or it was manipulated on purpose - for what means, who knows !
disengagejam 10 months ago
@disengagejam
I think it was faked by the CIA. Why do you think CIA Leon Penetta was promoted yesterday into Pentagon Boss? Just the guy who was editing it left layers unlocked either intentionally, so people can find out the truth, or by mistake. Hard to figure.
I think we’re in serious crisis where ELITE is spitting at everyone else and don’t even care if you know that they’re crooks.
They don’t care anymore whether you know the truth or not, they think they got us by the balls.
.
nick10463 10 months ago