Che la Sutherland sia la più grande cantante di tutti i tempi mi sembra ovvio! Qui vorrei ricordare la grandezza di Tatiana Troyanos, una cantante favolosa che ha spaziato attraverso un repertorio immenso, cantandolo tutto benissimo!
r u the guy who was REALLY mean and VERY disrespectful to Nat from community channel? cos if u r outsider2402. then u R ABSOLUTELY NOT A TRUE AUSSIE cos ur NOT kind or caring & overrall ur just a cruel, no hearted person who gets their kicks out of b'in mean to other ppl. sorry if ur not this person & i have posted this video on this site even though it may be wrong! i just say to everyone STAY AWAY FROM OUTSIDER2404!! theyr a VERY bad influence & is a discrimination 2 our country Australia.
just read your response (belatedly) Babs22h, and around the time i wrote the comment Sutherland had a fall at her house in Switzerland and broke her legs, hence 'hope her legs are alright'
Yes. This is a whole step higher than the normal version. I can't tell whether they sang it that way or whether it's a synching issue (like playing a tape too fast). Since it's just a whole step, it wouldn't be too much faster than the normal speed.
It's in F. It's in Eb in the score. Sutherland always took it up, forcing mezzi partners to do the same. Troyanos is a great singer. It is wrong to compare singers to one another, such as Troyanos and Horne. Their voices work very different ways, and are centered differently.
Any comparison between the great Sutherland and Caballe is SO ridiculous.Sutherland is the greatest Norma, the only one Norma.For great voice and perfect interpreation and power Sutherland owned Norma.
Caballe voice is mediocre in size and hollow, Caballe middle is hollow, low notes are pushed and Caballe high notes are really ugly screamed and spanish soprano interpreation is awful, vulgar and boring
These comments are so ridiculous that the writer is totally disqualified. They betray an unfamiliarity with singing style and technique so absolute they create a mini-farce here. A Met Norma from January of 1973 shows Caballe the grand mistress of this role in all recorded history. Sutherland, after 1959, assimilated Zeffirelli's conception of Lucia into absolutely everything she ever did for the next 30 years, most of it severely hampering style, and causing her singing to droop eternally.
Am I talking with Renata Scotto ? Do you use Steinweg9 as your nick ? Because you think you are a great vocal teacher as the disastrous Scotto and Caballe!.Caballe Norma is the mistress of the "falsetto" cheating the public all her career, with her mediocre, samll, hollow voice with dreadful screamed high fortes and NO fff
Crazy, man. Deaf person. Caballe's voice was built on its fundament, and remained hooked to it all of her career. She sang with energy until 1973, after which the mechanism began to sag. She'd been singing professionally 17 years by then, and was 40. Refer to Rasponi's "The Last Prima Donnas." Unanimously, the highest-ranking professional singers vote Caballe's technique prodigious, and name her the last great soprano.
Their voices blend, their acting blends and they are in magnificent voice, At least here, I prefer Trayonos more beautuful and substantial tone to Horne's. JS is more inspired in the vocal charerization.
De esta hermosa versión es inolvidable el mo-mento en que ADALGISA (Troyanos)le relata que ha sido seducida,el rostro de NORMA(Sutherland)quien recuerda su propio momento de abandono es de una belleza única.
Unfortunately I found this video recording didn't capture Sutherland's later voice as well as some other live recordings and videos I've heard. Despite that she still shines in the duets and especially in the last Act when she's very, very moving! Please don't make comparisons with Callas. Callas was a great Norma until 1960 (37 years old) - maybe the greatest - but Sutherland is 55 here so it's so unfair to compare them... And she's still amazing for ANY age.
I do agree with you about Ms Sutherland's voice. I never heard her live but have heard that, although she fared well in her studio recordings, one had to hear her voice live to appreciate the sheer size of it. I still think that she is amazing. Troyanos is untouchable in almost everything she does. However, I'm not sure that the voices blend as well as others that I've heard. I would have loved to hear Cerquetti and Troyanos together in Norma.
I've never been much of a Sutherland fan, but I did hear her in 1974 as Lucia. She had the most amazing voice I've heard live. I was near the back of the house, but she sounded like she was sitting next to me - but without sounding "loud." And if you haven't checked out the clip of Troyanos and Caballe in this same duet, do yourself a favor and go there now.
Troyanos is incredible, like a soprano, she sustains this height, which is higher than usually in the duet. The voice and artist is really top class. Nothing to say about Sutherland, she is the same solid belcantist and exceptional technician.
Please stop comparing your glowing memories of a young Callas to Sutheland in the latter portion of her career. It is certainly not fair. Maria was great, not doubt, but her voice was failing by her mid-thirties. She was dead at an age when Dame Joan was still very busy with her career. What would the Norma of Callas sound like after age 50? Very, very sad.....and thats the truth.
please rememberwhat dame Joan has meant for all opera lovers. She was, for me, the greatest of them all. In the later days of het career she could still move me... she still moves me to tears..
Tatiana, fuiste GRANDE.
Gruberovito 2 months ago
Che la Sutherland sia la più grande cantante di tutti i tempi mi sembra ovvio! Qui vorrei ricordare la grandezza di Tatiana Troyanos, una cantante favolosa che ha spaziato attraverso un repertorio immenso, cantandolo tutto benissimo!
leprincebeaumont 10 months ago
Goospimpels and instant tears.
leovaneechoud 1 year ago
Troyanos-- magnificent. Miss her so much.
drtmuir 1 year ago
Troyanos is an excellent Adalgisa. I keep watching it again and again... Thank you so much for posting.
Absolutely wonderful!
fairlytaleofnewyork 1 year ago
@fairlytaleofnewyork I agree with you, thank you for sending my way
ditogam 1 year ago
i like it very much .This version is one of the rarest i have ever heard cause you can hear both of the voices in their vocal extesntion ,braveee
operaclassicc 2 years ago 2
r u the guy who was REALLY mean and VERY disrespectful to Nat from community channel? cos if u r outsider2402. then u R ABSOLUTELY NOT A TRUE AUSSIE cos ur NOT kind or caring & overrall ur just a cruel, no hearted person who gets their kicks out of b'in mean to other ppl. sorry if ur not this person & i have posted this video on this site even though it may be wrong! i just say to everyone STAY AWAY FROM OUTSIDER2404!! theyr a VERY bad influence & is a discrimination 2 our country Australia.
maeve1996 2 years ago 3
im here for nat TOO!
Sexiless 2 years ago
inguardabili.......
chambersgif 2 years ago
OUTSTANDING !!
trendyyy 2 years ago
awesome, just awesome
spizzell1 2 years ago
wow!!!Tatiana Toryanos sang superbly!!! Her high notes are strong enough to complement Joan's...is the aria a note higher?
tanynzh 3 years ago
Tatiana Troyanos was a wonderful Adalgisa. Such a beautiful phrasing and voice!!!!!!
Klassizismus 3 years ago 2
poor love hope her legs are alright
BGSourgas 3 years ago
why thy didnt have her siting crosslegged or in some other position ??? hopefully she found a more comfortable position on different nights...
Babs22h 2 years ago
just read your response (belatedly) Babs22h, and around the time i wrote the comment Sutherland had a fall at her house in Switzerland and broke her legs, hence 'hope her legs are alright'
best wishes
gas
BGSourgas 2 years ago
Love tatiana
agabusdawatchman 3 years ago 7
This is lovely. just one question.. Is this in a higher key than normal? It sounds higher than in other versions I've heard on here.
syrinx79 3 years ago
Yes. This is a whole step higher than the normal version. I can't tell whether they sang it that way or whether it's a synching issue (like playing a tape too fast). Since it's just a whole step, it wouldn't be too much faster than the normal speed.
smrr5624 3 years ago
It's in F. It's in Eb in the score. Sutherland always took it up, forcing mezzi partners to do the same. Troyanos is a great singer. It is wrong to compare singers to one another, such as Troyanos and Horne. Their voices work very different ways, and are centered differently.
Steinweg9 3 years ago
Yep, she wanted that top C I guess. It seems brighter in this key to me though.
BeauTenor 3 years ago
This is the way was originally written, one tone up.
Wotan123456789 1 year ago
Any comparison between the great Sutherland and Caballe is SO ridiculous.Sutherland is the greatest Norma, the only one Norma.For great voice and perfect interpreation and power Sutherland owned Norma.
Caballe voice is mediocre in size and hollow, Caballe middle is hollow, low notes are pushed and Caballe high notes are really ugly screamed and spanish soprano interpreation is awful, vulgar and boring
jerodo4330 3 years ago
These comments are so ridiculous that the writer is totally disqualified. They betray an unfamiliarity with singing style and technique so absolute they create a mini-farce here. A Met Norma from January of 1973 shows Caballe the grand mistress of this role in all recorded history. Sutherland, after 1959, assimilated Zeffirelli's conception of Lucia into absolutely everything she ever did for the next 30 years, most of it severely hampering style, and causing her singing to droop eternally.
Steinweg9 3 years ago
Am I talking with Renata Scotto ? Do you use Steinweg9 as your nick ? Because you think you are a great vocal teacher as the disastrous Scotto and Caballe!.Caballe Norma is the mistress of the "falsetto" cheating the public all her career, with her mediocre, samll, hollow voice with dreadful screamed high fortes and NO fff
jerodo4330 3 years ago
Crazy, man. Deaf person. Caballe's voice was built on its fundament, and remained hooked to it all of her career. She sang with energy until 1973, after which the mechanism began to sag. She'd been singing professionally 17 years by then, and was 40. Refer to Rasponi's "The Last Prima Donnas." Unanimously, the highest-ranking professional singers vote Caballe's technique prodigious, and name her the last great soprano.
Steinweg9 3 years ago 2
love cabs(andDJ) but it did all go south noticeably
BGSourgas 3 years ago
This is good, however Jeniffer Larmore and Carol Vaness rendition of this aria is better.
Siegmund54
sunshine11978 3 years ago
WOW! Go on Tatiana!!
kamikazekate 3 years ago
Bien sur la Norma de Dame Joan est fameuse
mais son incarnation que je préfère et de loin
est celle de 1964 en studio avec l'extraordinaire Marilyn Horne.
jacquesurlus 3 years ago
i think the end was funny troyanos was like trembling with tension trying to hold that note! look at her hands! but she kept it brava
Babs22h 4 years ago
Their voices blend, their acting blends and they are in magnificent voice, At least here, I prefer Trayonos more beautuful and substantial tone to Horne's. JS is more inspired in the vocal charerization.
63Attila 4 years ago
Troyanos is amazing!
stellasapon 4 years ago
De esta hermosa versión es inolvidable el mo-mento en que ADALGISA (Troyanos)le relata que ha sido seducida,el rostro de NORMA(Sutherland)quien recuerda su propio momento de abandono es de una belleza única.
olgamarga 4 years ago
A fantastic colloratura
jhbrabander 4 years ago
Unfortunately I found this video recording didn't capture Sutherland's later voice as well as some other live recordings and videos I've heard. Despite that she still shines in the duets and especially in the last Act when she's very, very moving! Please don't make comparisons with Callas. Callas was a great Norma until 1960 (37 years old) - maybe the greatest - but Sutherland is 55 here so it's so unfair to compare them... And she's still amazing for ANY age.
OperaBR 4 years ago
I do agree with you about Ms Sutherland's voice. I never heard her live but have heard that, although she fared well in her studio recordings, one had to hear her voice live to appreciate the sheer size of it. I still think that she is amazing. Troyanos is untouchable in almost everything she does. However, I'm not sure that the voices blend as well as others that I've heard. I would have loved to hear Cerquetti and Troyanos together in Norma.
Otellogv 4 years ago 3
I've never been much of a Sutherland fan, but I did hear her in 1974 as Lucia. She had the most amazing voice I've heard live. I was near the back of the house, but she sounded like she was sitting next to me - but without sounding "loud." And if you haven't checked out the clip of Troyanos and Caballe in this same duet, do yourself a favor and go there now.
kgus123 3 years ago 3
i love the recording of thie opera,,,i listen to it many many times
remrom2 4 years ago
she is not at her prime
and still with a solid technique and clear voice
how many years does callas sang ?
and how many does Sutherland?
10 and Sutherland 40 i agree opera is not just high notes
but also you need beautifull voice it is a bel canto role you need high notes like her
if you want to see drama buy a ticket and see a good play
for God sakes leave this Queen of bel canto sutherland is... Dame Joan the best coloratura soprano of the 20th century
mdancer01 4 years ago
two wonderful singers but unfotunately the voices dont blend together as S with horne or callas/simionato,or even sutherland with caballe
franrat 4 years ago
Troyanos is one of the true artists of the 20th century. Sutherland is...well, Sutherland.
Gigglingatagas 4 years ago
sutherland is...
more than a true artist a prima donna assoluta
a supreme voice of the bel canto and for 30 years
the queen of coloratura roles
simple as that
mdancer01 4 years ago 2
Couldn't have said it better.
magicmonkichi 4 years ago
I really enjoy the opera. Thank you.
JAN5A 4 years ago
I love Tatiana Toryanos, but I found this rendition somewhat lacking in energy.
antippas 4 years ago
Troyanos is incredible, like a soprano, she sustains this height, which is higher than usually in the duet. The voice and artist is really top class. Nothing to say about Sutherland, she is the same solid belcantist and exceptional technician.
foropera 4 years ago
Please stop comparing your glowing memories of a young Callas to Sutheland in the latter portion of her career. It is certainly not fair. Maria was great, not doubt, but her voice was failing by her mid-thirties. She was dead at an age when Dame Joan was still very busy with her career. What would the Norma of Callas sound like after age 50? Very, very sad.....and thats the truth.
Hako2004 4 years ago 2
please rememberwhat dame Joan has meant for all opera lovers. She was, for me, the greatest of them all. In the later days of het career she could still move me... she still moves me to tears..
copaintje 4 years ago
I agree entirely toricaballe. Singing the notes is not enough in opera.
sevoflurane 4 years ago