wow. Apparently the majority of the people who watched this video are not educated about alternative medicine. o__O I guess you people really do always depend on drugs to heal yourselves.
Chiropractors are not Doctors, they are specialists. They didn't go through the medical school. Physician Assistants, go through more schooling than Chiropracters
I have had terrific and wonderful results with chiropractic manipulations on my neck as well as on the rest of my spine which I did not get with any other system. I know that there are many untrained, unprincipled practitioners that I would not trust or let them work on me. Besides being professional, I sincerely believe that the person doing this kind of therapy must be firmly convinced and love what he or she is doing.
Mirtz et al, Chiropractic & Osteopathy 2009, 17:13. There is a significant lack of evidence in the literature to fulfill Hills criteria of causation as regards chiropractic subluxation. No supportive evidence is found for the chiropractic subluxation being associated with any disease process or of creating suboptimal health conditions requiring intervention. Regardless of popular appeal this leaves the subluxation construct in the realm of unsupported speculation.
@jjhaywood Why can't you leave the gutter talk outside and simply discuss this on the level of an educated person, using a scientific basis as the point around which the discussion can take place?
The chiropractic profession has an obligation to actively divorce itself from metaphysical explanations of health and disease as well as to actively regulate itself in refusing to tolerate fraud, abuse and quackery, which are more rampant in chiropractic than in other healthcare professions (Foreman SM Stahl MJ: Chiropractors disciplined by state chiropractic board and a comparison with disciplined medical physicians. J Manipulative Physiol Ther 2004, 27(7):472-476).
Thanks very much for this presentation. It was very informative, very helpful, and very well done from start to finish. Jeff did a great job in explaing the procedure.
Stroke from chiropractic neck manipulation occurs when an artery to the brain ruptures or becomes blocked as a result of being stretched. The vertebral artery is vulnerable because it winds around the topmost cervical vertebra (atlas) to enter the skull, so that any abrupt rotation may stretch the artery and tear its delicate lining.
@ospreylookout the theory of dissecting the Vertebral Artery has been debunked within the past 2 years. I am a PT and we perform spinal manipulations regularly as needed, but only to treat nerves, muscles, and bones. Not the 10 systems that chiros claim to treat. I will be more than happy to provide you with references to the studies done by PTs which are in Spine journal.
@AthleticsJunkie: I am also a PT (PhD), and there is no evidence anywhere that says that c-spine manips are not traumatic to the vertebro-basilar artery complex. What is it that you claim to be "debunked"?
Guardian UK: Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes. Now even the General Chiropractic Council has disowned the claims of the BCA the same claims that lie at the centre of its libel action against Simon Singh. In a new report, it concludes that the evidence does not support claims that chiropractic treatment is effective for childhood colic, bed-wetting, ear infections or asthma, the very claims that Singh was sued for describing as "bogus".
chiro: Show us the evidence if it exists. Every legitimate piece of published research found in peer-reviewed journals is stored in databases such as Medline. There are searched by using the information: author, year, title of study, Journal name, so why won't you provide any evidence to the public? Why are you lying to the people? You are hiding the truth--there is no evidence for most of the garbage you claim. You are a fraud.
chiro: Why is it that you are unable to demonstrate education in health science at a level of a high school graduate, nor can you apparently be bothered to provide any indication that you know anything about evidence-based practice. Is it simply a matter of lack of education or are you really trying to defraud the public with unsubstantiated claims? You have yet to provide a single searchable citation (author, title, yr, Journal) that supports your claims.All you seem to be able to do is swear.
I suggest that anyone interested, Google the Guardian UK for the story entitled, Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes; One in four chiropractors in Britain are under investigation as a result of campaign by Singh supporters, by Martin Robbins.
chiro: Once again, don't get lost in prose, just provide the evidence that you claim exists or STOP LYING TO THE PUBLIC. If there is no evidence, then learn about research methodology and do some so that you can answer the question with more than pathetic insults and side-steps. Provide the searchable citations to the research articles that support the claims you have made on chiro. Where is this evidence you sad liar?
chiro: As I have said, when you know that you have nothing else, all you can do is to resort to profanities. What a sad profession that lets liars like you through the doors only to rip people off who just don't know any better. When asked to provide the evidence for your claims, you refuse, and swear at me. PATHETIC. Dr. Wannabee.
Study: 100 infant randomised, blinded, placebo controlled clinical trial concluded that Chiropractic spinal manipulation is no more effective than placebo in the treatment of infantile colic (Olafsdottir, Forshei, Fluge & Markestad; 2001; Arch Dis Child. 2001 Feb;84(2):138-41).
scottrichardson, would you mind if an MD jabbed you with the full compliment of vaccinations? Do you believe they will make you sick (they will either shortly after recieving them or years later)? We know most drugs and vaccinations have maimed or killed...because they are stupidly legal does this make them good? because medicien killed 800,000 Americans last year does this make it right? Let chiropractic into your life...it's for the best scotty.
chiro: You are so full of crap. You spread this bag full of lies and propaganda like leaves falling from trees in the fall. There is not one stitch of evidence for what you are cliaming. I have asked you to offer searchable citations of research and you don't have a clue where to look. There is no legitimate research doen that has shown the efficacy of a small fraction of chiro. QUACKERY!!
744: Do you know what placebo is? How do you know what caused you to feel better? Maybe just having someone pay attention to you or put what you consider to be caring hands on you....maybe that is all it takes? So why pay some quack to perform sometimes dangerous maneuvers on your spine as a maater of routine and out of some unsubstantiated theory...? So, I am saying, provide the evidence or stop being dishonest, that is all. We all expect honestly, so this should be no different.
having a chiropractor crack your body is causing/andmore likely og getting authritis at a young age because when you crack your bomes theres empty space for authritis to get into your body
i went to a chiroprator last year with neck and back pain . Nothing was fixed , actually I now get this annoying pinched nerve in my head that first started just minutes after getting home from a chiroprator visit . Biggest mistake of my life.
lol, watching the part where he cracks her neck always bothers me. Lol, it reminds me of the movies where they twist their neck and kill them. *shutters*
Its really sad how people fall for this. I think think the benifits of an education only apply to how much money you might make later on. But there is a "dumb tax" that uneducated people will pay every day for the rest of thier lives, falling for people like this guy.
Wow I get an email from some bully telling me to shut up, 8 months after my post lol. I read some of the posts tonight and thankfully it looks like the majority already see chiropractic medicine for what it is - psuedoscience. So you are right, they dont need my help.
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@machnumber2 Don't feel intimidated...there are lots of goofs out there who think that they can bully people. Cowards. Speak your mind and anchor your thoughts in science...and you will be fine.
@machnumber2 youre a douche.. i have 2 friends that eliminated a lifetime of migraines through chiropractic methods... how does a drug or surgery even begin to compare to getting to the actual issue?!
I have been to many doctors and they could not tell me one flip of what was really wrong with me. One time at a Chiro and they knew exactly what was wrong with me and how to fix it. I have spinal disease, pinched nerve, beginning of Scoliosis in my lower spine. No wonder I was always in such pain. Thank God for docs like you that can help adjust the spine or I would be in a wheelchair by now! Thanks for sharing!
I seriously don't understand why you're so much against chiropractics. YES, it's evidence based. I'm from Denmark, and the education here is COMBINED with the medical education, which means that we study for 5 years at the university TOGETHER with the medical students, taking all of their classes, exams etc. I dont know how it is in the US, but the techniques we're taught are from evidence based research. Besides, I hope you aren't so naive that you think everything a MD does is evidence based!
Chiropractors don't go to medical school here. It's a couple year program. However, MDs must go to 4-5 years of medical school PLUS at least 3-12 more years of study depending on the residency program.
Ok, but that just shows how important it is to examine the facts before saying that chiropractors are frauds. In DK we are taking an evidence- and medicine based approach, and work closely together with MD's at hospitals etc. Of course, with different schools, there will always be some that are more qualified than others - but that's the same with doctors (MD's) - some are in the top of their class while others barely graduate. But that doesn't mean that chiropractors overall are frauds :-)
I don't see why chiroprators have to do that extensive exam. If the patient is that messed up, they should just go to a doctor. If you're stiff in your neck or back, go to the chiropractor and let them release it with some adjustments.
I've been to a chiropractor twice in my life because of a severely stiff back and getting adjusted did the trick. But I think these chiropractors who do all these test are trying to seem like expert doctors, which they are not.
"I don't see why chiroprators have to do that extensive exam"
Well as you your self said "if the patient is that messed up, they should just go to a doctor", but don't you think it's important for the chiropractor to be able to decide if it's something he should treat, or if the symptoms are (for example) caused by a motoneuron lesion, tumor, aorta aneurism etc. - prette important to know if he should treat the patient or send him off to the hospital...
Chiropractic looks like the kind of stuff that kids do when they play doctor.
Their sheer lack of understanding of physiology, and their audacity to merely fill in knowledge gaps with vague descriptions of imaginary effects, is both tragic, and hilarious.
Chiropractors are their own worst enemy. The more they speak in public, and attempt to defend, and explain their silly ideas, the more out of touch they seem to the average person.
To karlito1983; The reason for doing a neuroexam is to screen for things like silent prolapsed discs, spinal tumors, neurological diseases such as MS etc etc. This is very important, and it does not take too long to undertake. I discovered a spinal tumor a few years ago in a patient who "only" had neck pain...
The original post was that neuro exams do NOT need to be done on every patient. An accurate subjective, including questioning with regard to red flags, should guide your physical exam. Detection of MS, a rarity I imagine, with symptoms such as blurred vision, affected gait etc does justofy a neruo exam. But not all patients as was originally suggested.
I am an osteopath and physical therapist from Europe. I am ashamed of bjs8145, who clearly has issues. No D.O would behave like that. Get a life. One cannot really generalise when it comes to the various professions. There are some good D.O's and there are some good D.C's - one can compare it to carpenters, not all carpenters are just as good. It's all in the hands of the practitioner (the ability to palpate (feel) and diagnose and treat correctly).
But think about this shogun, all carpenters creating something tangible and real. Two carpenters make two cabinets, one is obviously better. But both perform the same function.
There are no good D.Cs there is no medical documentation that their 'treatments' do anything.
To bjs8145 DO's evolved into what? MD wannabes. Did you call me a bitch because I struck a nerve with you? Appears the truth hurts you.Fact is medicine kills more people every year than a chiropractor could ever imagine. And I don't want to be that kind of dr. or I would have gone to med not osteo school. If you want to read what your AMA says about chiro edu go to website: humblewellnessdotcom backslashchiropracticunderscoreeducationdotshtm The truth is the truth. Still holding my head high.
Secondly, we know that Lumbar spine xrays cause a huge amount of radiation for something that you should be able to diagnose clinically. And what is this crap about subluxations, what research is there to show this. Studies have shown that nearly half the population, on MRI, have signs of disc bulge but are asymptomatic.
I would say that a full exam allows the chiropractor charge more.
What bull. A chiropractor does not have the same qualifications as a medic. What is the point of doing a full neuro examination on every patient, or a lumbar xray (even if you have the right and qualification to read it - a radiologist is the only person qualified to review it)
It a patient does not present with uni or bilateral radiating pain to below the buttock crease then it is moot to perform a radiological examination.
Huh? First of all, I personally do not take x-rays on every patient and secondly, radiologists read x-rays for pathologies, chiropractors look for both pathologies and structural problems. The point of doing an exam is to rule out things like infections, fractures, etc. FYI--some people go to the chiro before the m.d. with a problem. A good chiro will make sure it is a problem they can treat by doing an exam first. .
Again, more bull. rule out infections and fractures. What crap. If you suspect an infection, then you do not have the abiiity to take bloods and send to the lab, nor have you the ability to precribe meds. PRICE regime is also you can administer. As for fractures. unless its glaringly obvious, I'm gonna take my chances with a radiologist ('who reads only pathologies - more crap) or an orthopod. You know real doctors.
Now Karlitob1983--no one ever said radiologists ONLY read for pathologies Read what I said again above. Why is it so hard for people like you to grasp the concept that there are different types of doctors in the world. Look at the Chinese for instance, Check your facts before you speak.. Go to::humblewellness.combackslashchiropractic_education.shtm. A study by the AMA no less.
radiologists read x-rays for pathologies, chiropractors look for both pathologies and structural problems - is what you said, thereby alluding that chiropractors read x rays better than qualifies radiologists who do nothing but read xrays. "Check my facts" about all the different 'types of doctors in world" like the chinese. What a ridiculous statement.
Obviously you are uneducated and angry. I stand by my statements. Furthermore, you read into what I said above. Does the word interpretation mean anything to you?? Ridiculous is all you could come up with? As I said, go to the website I gave you about chiro ed put out by the AMA. Also take a look at what an osteo said below. If you don't have anything intelligent or informed to say, then go talk to someone who is as narrow minded as yourself. I am finished with this "ridiculous" conversation.
Listen sir, you can't even type a coherent complete sentence. You are obviously a moron. Please leave and take your scam artist "health-care" with you. I suggest you go to china.
Come back when you have actually proven that chiropractic can cure something.
What nomisil says is not true. You don't have to have pain to have a problem. For instance, high blood pressure is a silent disease. The same with your spine. You won't always have pain. Only a chiropractic exam can tell you if you have a problem.
Dear Dr Echols, do you know spinal mouse? i have made these test and the trainer said that there are some "mistakes" but - he didn t say what i can do to help my spine!! would it be possible to send the details by email? greetings from eureope!
What a *GREAT In Depth view of the outstanding Job~Care The Chiropractors* do! The most problem eradicating alternative health care approach~in every possible way...to a NEW healthy *YOU*! And yes I have Chiropractic treatments & I would Highly recommend it! Read the report from the WHO 2006 guidelines on Chiropractic. :O)
My dad is a chiropracter he went to Palmer. where did you go, online? Now he's roll'in sweat in da dough! You're a JOKE! Go to my dads practice and actually learn somthing! No really, DO IT!!!
I have a question i saw another one of his videos it said take your kids to the chirapractor for check ups or something. Im 15 and never been to a chirpractor. Should i go even though i have no problems?
"I f any of you haters want to know what scientific literature says about chiropractors go to my channel DrJDavid. Before you try to comment be aware that you may need more than two neurons firing at the same time to comprehend the message.I challenge ANY to defy the truth. Bring it on Mr. P.T.M.D. whatever education you think you have. I 'll eat you guys for lunch. Anybody can have an opinion. Treating opinions as facts is ridiculous. Come check it out.....I DARE YOU"
Hey Dr. Isn't it amazing how these people make it their mission to bash us chiropractors? Glad to see you are here helping to educate the misled public about health. Keep up the good work!
Dont worry docdb1, bjs8145 is a total SHE-TROLL. He is no doctor. He told me he was an obstetritian on another video, now he's an osteopath. He also said the heart can function without nerves after a transplant. Total tool and I made him my Bee-atch!!
well it dependes on the doctors some are mine was 40 to start but then it whent down to like 15 cuzz i go so much if i wher u id just check out a few around your area then compare them. ~hope i helped u =]
Assuming you grant that the rigors of the 1st and 2nd year equate (which I dont), chiropractic students are still sitting around a classroom for their 3rd and 4th years when MD/DO students are out on 60-80 hr/week clerkship.
That is to say nothing of the 3-5 years of postgraduate residency's that MD/DO's do. Chiropractic has nothing like this.
Claims like this are just self delusion on the part of profession desperate to believe that they are "real" doctors. Sad..
To: bjs8145 You make me chuckle. Awfully worked up over something you apparently know nothing about. What is your education exactly? Ever attended medical or chiropractic school? Do you even know what the meaning of the word "doctor" is? It is TEACHER. Every day in my practice I have at least one patient tell me that I've helped them and in many cases, given them their life back because they can now function normally again. This is what lets me hold my head high regardless of your ignorance.
I hold a degree on Osteopathic Medicine w/ residency training and board certification. I have over 10 years of practice under my belt and Ive done my share of teaching.
I find it interesting that you dont dare challenge the validity of the facts regarding chiropractic vs MD/DO training above... just content to pump up your inflated ego. Im sure reflexologists and magnetic healers get the same feedback from their victums... its called the placebo effect so keep your head held high big boy!
#1 Osteopaths sold out to be "elevated" to status of md's. so you are in essence an md wannabe
#2 An osteopathic "doctor" as you call yourself misdiagnosed my father and he died of cancer 10 years ago. (great education!)
#3 We are only given 500 characters on this thing or I would take the time to tell you about my education "big boy" but I don't find it necessary to defend myself to an md wannabe that most likely doesn't know what he's doing with his patients.
Osteopathy was capable of evolving... unlike that 100+ years of chiropractic history that are unbridled by progress.
Makes me wonder about the throngs of chiropractors being our state legislature for prescribing rights every year... I guess your all just a bunch of wanna-be DO wanna-be's.
You are the biggest douche on youtube. You arent a doctor of any kind. You have proven your gross stupidity. "the heart functions without ANY nerves". Is that what they teach osteopaths? No wonder nobody has ever heard of them.
I just want to say that if it wasn't for Dr. Edna Lay DO I would have never walked as a child! She is the leader in cranial manipulation in babies. As a baby my parents took me to see her often for my hip dysplasia and thankfully due to her work, and a few DCs I have had a nice normal life, and have been able to ride horses during that time!
My back, and shoulders are chronically tense and knotted. I was also diagnosed with a mild scoliosis before I was a teenager. Should I look into chiropractic treatment?
Chiro first, then see a masseur the same day. The combination of osteomanipulation and muscular manipulation can actually help correct the bad postural habits you've built up over the years and will help prevent pain in future.
-Number one cause of back pain in Americans is an underdeveloped abdomen. Crunches!
A weak core is a real problem for low back pain. I would NOT recommend crunches due to the very real possibility to damage disc and the lumbar spine. Front planks, side planks, dead bug, and bird dog are all safe no compression way to build a strong core. Yes, sit ups and crunches are not really needy in most cases. Remember, Chiropractic is about a properly functioning nervous system and when you have a good nervous system you have a much greater chance to heal from any disease or condition.
Bah! No wonder my back hurts :P Core excersizes are hard.. what you've suggested there, that's yoga? I'll give it a try because I've got horrible lower back pain(Mostly from being too tall in a world built for 5'8 people :( Bending over all the time = bad with a weak core!). I'll give your suggestions a try and hope for the best :)
When i was 2 i feel out of a swing and landed on my head. I recently noticed my neck and upper (sometimes lower) back aches and hurts. I also have asthma (if thats significant). Should I do something about it?
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2:28 How does it feel to die, bitch?
hurrderpdurrherp 2 months ago
0:09.... WHATCHU WANT BITCH
d34dm4u5XI2ay 3 months ago
This guy looks a bit like Kurt Russell.
sirtinycreep 11 months ago
I don't know why, but whenever I see this guy i seem to think of a big nice bear.
JackofTrades75 11 months ago
@JackofTrades75
haha yes! I always think he's like Lotso from Toy story 3 lol
RowsOfHouses 9 months ago
6:07....rofl
DevilOnHog 1 year ago
Confession. I basically am watching these clips to read the comments.
CarlaLR74 1 year ago 4
i bet he gets alot of ass from his female clients lol
15551cue 1 year ago
6:07, that pimp makes the ladies giggle
WildBillHickums 1 year ago
His career in the tank after the Jar Jar Binks debacle, George Lucas pursues a new career in chiropractics...
TheTNridgerunner 1 year ago 5
@TheTNridgerunner hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
nicknadimi 1 year ago
wow. Apparently the majority of the people who watched this video are not educated about alternative medicine. o__O I guess you people really do always depend on drugs to heal yourselves.
TinhMaiKhongPhai92 1 year ago
good video
ceasey0xoogurl 1 year ago
omg at 2:39 he says a if a tumour is discovered it needs to be mentioned before treatment... is he trying to cure cancer with chiropody?!
DBaHProductions 1 year ago
Chiropractors are awesome! Great detail as to what a doctor of chiropractic looks for and why.
alphaditto 1 year ago
I just use my sons feet they are free ))
sarahata22 1 year ago
Chiropractors are not Doctors, they are specialists. They didn't go through the medical school. Physician Assistants, go through more schooling than Chiropracters
lty2k84 1 year ago
@lty2k84 they are doctors of chiropractic.
LaurenAlexandra711 1 year ago
does anyone else think 4:40 looks a bit suggestive?
knutini 1 year ago 57
@knutini LOL i was just about to post something about that!
wtfbroskie 1 year ago
@knutini now we finally know where the term 'boner' comes from. :-)
arvy1983 1 year ago
@knutini he's hung all sorts of crooked.
WildBillHickums 1 year ago
@knutini
hahahahahha
007DEL93 1 year ago
@knutini LMAO,Yeah,it does.Maybe he wanted to "Show her some BONE"....lol
Foolishpleazure 1 year ago 3
@knutini
haha thnx man you made my day
DevilOnHog 7 months ago
@DevilOnHog LOLOL
Tyannalyn 3 months ago
I have had terrific and wonderful results with chiropractic manipulations on my neck as well as on the rest of my spine which I did not get with any other system. I know that there are many untrained, unprincipled practitioners that I would not trust or let them work on me. Besides being professional, I sincerely believe that the person doing this kind of therapy must be firmly convinced and love what he or she is doing.
souldado 1 year ago 7
beautiful woman!
007DEL93 1 year ago
Mirtz et al, Chiropractic & Osteopathy 2009, 17:13. There is a significant lack of evidence in the literature to fulfill Hills criteria of causation as regards chiropractic subluxation. No supportive evidence is found for the chiropractic subluxation being associated with any disease process or of creating suboptimal health conditions requiring intervention. Regardless of popular appeal this leaves the subluxation construct in the realm of unsupported speculation.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
@ospreylookout psychiatry too. no evidence of anything. now please go masturbate.
jjhaywood 1 year ago
@jjhaywood Why can't you leave the gutter talk outside and simply discuss this on the level of an educated person, using a scientific basis as the point around which the discussion can take place?
ospreylookout 1 year ago
The chiropractic profession has an obligation to actively divorce itself from metaphysical explanations of health and disease as well as to actively regulate itself in refusing to tolerate fraud, abuse and quackery, which are more rampant in chiropractic than in other healthcare professions (Foreman SM Stahl MJ: Chiropractors disciplined by state chiropractic board and a comparison with disciplined medical physicians. J Manipulative Physiol Ther 2004, 27(7):472-476).
ospreylookout 1 year ago
chiro's are jokes my uncle now has worse pain and has to go or his back cramps up
Zujfsn 1 year ago
@Zujfsn tell your uncle to look into Rolfing therapy. Chiroquacks are useless. Wriet back if you need any info
lerxt42 1 year ago
Thanks very much for this presentation. It was very informative, very helpful, and very well done from start to finish. Jeff did a great job in explaing the procedure.
Thanks you veryt much for this,
Sincerely Yehudi
yehudiadelphos 1 year ago
Stroke from chiropractic neck manipulation occurs when an artery to the brain ruptures or becomes blocked as a result of being stretched. The vertebral artery is vulnerable because it winds around the topmost cervical vertebra (atlas) to enter the skull, so that any abrupt rotation may stretch the artery and tear its delicate lining.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
@ospreylookout the theory of dissecting the Vertebral Artery has been debunked within the past 2 years. I am a PT and we perform spinal manipulations regularly as needed, but only to treat nerves, muscles, and bones. Not the 10 systems that chiros claim to treat. I will be more than happy to provide you with references to the studies done by PTs which are in Spine journal.
AthleticsJunkie 1 year ago
@AthleticsJunkie: I am also a PT (PhD), and there is no evidence anywhere that says that c-spine manips are not traumatic to the vertebro-basilar artery complex. What is it that you claim to be "debunked"?
ospreylookout 1 year ago
Guardian UK: Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes. Now even the General Chiropractic Council has disowned the claims of the BCA the same claims that lie at the centre of its libel action against Simon Singh. In a new report, it concludes that the evidence does not support claims that chiropractic treatment is effective for childhood colic, bed-wetting, ear infections or asthma, the very claims that Singh was sued for describing as "bogus".
ospreylookout 1 year ago
ospreyyousprey, your stumbling in your posts. Slow it down, your PC's keys must be melting from your fruror to bullshit. Chiropractic!
chiropractic47 1 year ago
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chiro: Show us the evidence if it exists. Every legitimate piece of published research found in peer-reviewed journals is stored in databases such as Medline. There are searched by using the information: author, year, title of study, Journal name, so why won't you provide any evidence to the public? Why are you lying to the people? You are hiding the truth--there is no evidence for most of the garbage you claim. You are a fraud.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
chiro: Why is it that you are unable to demonstrate education in health science at a level of a high school graduate, nor can you apparently be bothered to provide any indication that you know anything about evidence-based practice. Is it simply a matter of lack of education or are you really trying to defraud the public with unsubstantiated claims? You have yet to provide a single searchable citation (author, title, yr, Journal) that supports your claims.All you seem to be able to do is swear.
ospreylookout 1 year ago 2
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I suggest that anyone interested, Google the Guardian UK for the story entitled, Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes; One in four chiropractors in Britain are under investigation as a result of campaign by Singh supporters, by Martin Robbins.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
QUACK! QUACK! QUACK!
ospreylookout 1 year ago
ospreylookout! You sat on a duck and now its sticking out of your ass! QUACK! QUACK! LOL! You tryin to fuck ducks medic? LOL! Chiropractic!
chiropractic47 1 year ago
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chiro: Once again, don't get lost in prose, just provide the evidence that you claim exists or STOP LYING TO THE PUBLIC. If there is no evidence, then learn about research methodology and do some so that you can answer the question with more than pathetic insults and side-steps. Provide the searchable citations to the research articles that support the claims you have made on chiro. Where is this evidence you sad liar?
ospreylookout 1 year ago
chiro: As I have said, when you know that you have nothing else, all you can do is to resort to profanities. What a sad profession that lets liars like you through the doors only to rip people off who just don't know any better. When asked to provide the evidence for your claims, you refuse, and swear at me. PATHETIC. Dr. Wannabee.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
@ospreylookout i have had the same argument with quack47.....lovely use of medical terms he has..............not
lerxt42 1 year ago
Study: 100 infant randomised, blinded, placebo controlled clinical trial concluded that Chiropractic spinal manipulation is no more effective than placebo in the treatment of infantile colic (Olafsdottir, Forshei, Fluge & Markestad; 2001; Arch Dis Child. 2001 Feb;84(2):138-41).
ospreylookout 1 year ago
scottrichardson, would you mind if an MD jabbed you with the full compliment of vaccinations? Do you believe they will make you sick (they will either shortly after recieving them or years later)? We know most drugs and vaccinations have maimed or killed...because they are stupidly legal does this make them good? because medicien killed 800,000 Americans last year does this make it right? Let chiropractic into your life...it's for the best scotty.
chiropractic47 1 year ago
chiro: You are so full of crap. You spread this bag full of lies and propaganda like leaves falling from trees in the fall. There is not one stitch of evidence for what you are cliaming. I have asked you to offer searchable citations of research and you don't have a clue where to look. There is no legitimate research doen that has shown the efficacy of a small fraction of chiro. QUACKERY!!
ospreylookout 1 year ago
I don't need research to know that I feel better.
744682532 1 year ago
744: Do you know what placebo is? How do you know what caused you to feel better? Maybe just having someone pay attention to you or put what you consider to be caring hands on you....maybe that is all it takes? So why pay some quack to perform sometimes dangerous maneuvers on your spine as a maater of routine and out of some unsubstantiated theory...? So, I am saying, provide the evidence or stop being dishonest, that is all. We all expect honestly, so this should be no different.
ospreylookout 1 year ago 2
Chiropractic is mainstream. All who post here require chiropractic care becuase everyone needs chiropractic.
chiropractic47 1 year ago
@chiropractic47 Being overweight is mainstream; does not make it right.
Scottrchrdsn 1 year ago
great pair of heels on her
chloroheel 1 year ago
from 4:01-4:34 its like hes got his dick out lool
enemy85 1 year ago
7:15 someone coughs "bullshit"
DudeofRock1112 1 year ago
very good for my Technical English classes
amarcosdurock2009 2 years ago
i was just watching stone cold steve austin videos and this video was in the related videos box
TheWonderboy1999 2 years ago
6:21 "and the person can start to return to Hell" LOL
ZipYourNoiseMaker 2 years ago
Hi, I'm Kenny Rodgers. If I had glasses I'd be Col Sanders.
haymaker710 2 years ago 2
At 6:23 it sounds like he says, the patient can start and return to HELLL... !!!
Haha, thats what i heard...
livefastdieyoung2012 2 years ago 68
@livefastdieyoung2012 i thought he said that to
dragonfitter 1 year ago
@livefastdieyoung2012 hahaha, after reading that and listening, it does!
slowandeasy 1 year ago
@livefastdieyoung2012 I does sound like he is saying return to hell, but it is actually health.
MrJtr75 1 year ago
@livefastdieyoung2012 lmao it did sound like it. we all know he meant health :)
bennidproduction 1 year ago
Who is that playing that little guitar thing at the very end?
marcusvolk1 2 years ago
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having a chiropractor crack your body is causing/andmore likely og getting authritis at a young age because when you crack your bomes theres empty space for authritis to get into your body
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i went to a chiroprator last year with neck and back pain . Nothing was fixed , actually I now get this annoying pinched nerve in my head that first started just minutes after getting home from a chiroprator visit . Biggest mistake of my life.
stevepwnz 2 years ago
i think the biggest mistake of you life was that after a year you never again had somebody look into that problam again.
Marvin2788 2 years ago
My Chiropractic care is helping my Scoliosis a great deal.
dezzra78 2 years ago
It seems like the adjusting is just joint cracking but more specifically, one joint, instead of a bunch.
TMundo 2 years ago 2
5:55 is lovely
TheGhazy 2 years ago
lol, watching the part where he cracks her neck always bothers me. Lol, it reminds me of the movies where they twist their neck and kill them. *shutters*
ShutUpAndLetMeGo94 2 years ago 2
I would love the neck twist like he does
thejokeriscool 2 years ago 3
You know that people do that in real life too, right?
CinematicDuckBoy 2 years ago
haha well yeah, but I only seen it happen in movies..
ShutUpAndLetMeGo94 2 years ago
Yeah. I did type it out too quickly. Repeated a word, used wrong word and maybe some misspelling. BTW its spelled intelligence.
machnumber2 2 years ago
Its really sad how people fall for this. I think think the benifits of an education only apply to how much money you might make later on. But there is a "dumb tax" that uneducated people will pay every day for the rest of thier lives, falling for people like this guy.
machnumber2 2 years ago 6
you show your intellegence level by that comment right there!
mtwdy8 2 years ago
@machnumber2 please shut up. you can't help these people. worry about yourself.
jjhaywood 1 year ago
Wow I get an email from some bully telling me to shut up, 8 months after my post lol. I read some of the posts tonight and thankfully it looks like the majority already see chiropractic medicine for what it is - psuedoscience. So you are right, they dont need my help.
machnumber2 1 year ago
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@machnumber2 Don't feel intimidated...there are lots of goofs out there who think that they can bully people. Cowards. Speak your mind and anchor your thoughts in science...and you will be fine.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
@machnumber2 youre a douche.. i have 2 friends that eliminated a lifetime of migraines through chiropractic methods... how does a drug or surgery even begin to compare to getting to the actual issue?!
glycoboy 1 year ago
Some of you obviously have never visited a chiropractor, if you think it's a crock.
FrozenEclipse 2 years ago
I have been to many doctors and they could not tell me one flip of what was really wrong with me. One time at a Chiro and they knew exactly what was wrong with me and how to fix it. I have spinal disease, pinched nerve, beginning of Scoliosis in my lower spine. No wonder I was always in such pain. Thank God for docs like you that can help adjust the spine or I would be in a wheelchair by now! Thanks for sharing!
Ladyhawkwright 2 years ago
I seriously don't understand why you're so much against chiropractics. YES, it's evidence based. I'm from Denmark, and the education here is COMBINED with the medical education, which means that we study for 5 years at the university TOGETHER with the medical students, taking all of their classes, exams etc. I dont know how it is in the US, but the techniques we're taught are from evidence based research. Besides, I hope you aren't so naive that you think everything a MD does is evidence based!
aleg01 2 years ago
Chiropractors don't go to medical school here. It's a couple year program. However, MDs must go to 4-5 years of medical school PLUS at least 3-12 more years of study depending on the residency program.
mrdude999 2 years ago 3
Ok, but that just shows how important it is to examine the facts before saying that chiropractors are frauds. In DK we are taking an evidence- and medicine based approach, and work closely together with MD's at hospitals etc. Of course, with different schools, there will always be some that are more qualified than others - but that's the same with doctors (MD's) - some are in the top of their class while others barely graduate. But that doesn't mean that chiropractors overall are frauds :-)
aleg01 2 years ago
lol seems like hes gonna kill her with that neck technique
roughryder5 2 years ago 3
I don't see why chiroprators have to do that extensive exam. If the patient is that messed up, they should just go to a doctor. If you're stiff in your neck or back, go to the chiropractor and let them release it with some adjustments.
I've been to a chiropractor twice in my life because of a severely stiff back and getting adjusted did the trick. But I think these chiropractors who do all these test are trying to seem like expert doctors, which they are not.
ryanseabass 2 years ago
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Wynterseke 2 years ago
"I don't see why chiroprators have to do that extensive exam."
Especially when the treatment is apparently always exactly the same.
ConradZaar 2 years ago
@ ryanseabass
"I don't see why chiroprators have to do that extensive exam"
Well as you your self said "if the patient is that messed up, they should just go to a doctor", but don't you think it's important for the chiropractor to be able to decide if it's something he should treat, or if the symptoms are (for example) caused by a motoneuron lesion, tumor, aorta aneurism etc. - prette important to know if he should treat the patient or send him off to the hospital...
aleg01 2 years ago
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MDs really have a pressing need to feel superior, don't they? Whatever helps them sleep at night, I suppose...
schmoleica 2 years ago
Quack quack . chiroquacktor
peterm3964 2 years ago 5
siempre haces lo mismo???? dame trabajo y te enseñare mas cosas jajajajajajajajajajaajajajaja
luisborn 2 years ago
Chiropractic looks like the kind of stuff that kids do when they play doctor.
Their sheer lack of understanding of physiology, and their audacity to merely fill in knowledge gaps with vague descriptions of imaginary effects, is both tragic, and hilarious.
Chiropractors are their own worst enemy. The more they speak in public, and attempt to defend, and explain their silly ideas, the more out of touch they seem to the average person.
itheuser 2 years ago 2
orly? as a pathologist, i have never once prescribed any drug at all. so that disproves your theory that modern medicine= pharmaceutical sales
nuzzo14 2 years ago 2
To karlito1983; The reason for doing a neuroexam is to screen for things like silent prolapsed discs, spinal tumors, neurological diseases such as MS etc etc. This is very important, and it does not take too long to undertake. I discovered a spinal tumor a few years ago in a patient who "only" had neck pain...
shogunladdie 2 years ago
The original post was that neuro exams do NOT need to be done on every patient. An accurate subjective, including questioning with regard to red flags, should guide your physical exam. Detection of MS, a rarity I imagine, with symptoms such as blurred vision, affected gait etc does justofy a neruo exam. But not all patients as was originally suggested.
karlitob1983 2 years ago
I am an osteopath and physical therapist from Europe. I am ashamed of bjs8145, who clearly has issues. No D.O would behave like that. Get a life. One cannot really generalise when it comes to the various professions. There are some good D.O's and there are some good D.C's - one can compare it to carpenters, not all carpenters are just as good. It's all in the hands of the practitioner (the ability to palpate (feel) and diagnose and treat correctly).
shogunladdie 2 years ago
Your carpenter metaphor is great.
But think about this shogun, all carpenters creating something tangible and real. Two carpenters make two cabinets, one is obviously better. But both perform the same function.
There are no good D.Cs there is no medical documentation that their 'treatments' do anything.
J3arc 2 years ago
To bjs8145 DO's evolved into what? MD wannabes. Did you call me a bitch because I struck a nerve with you? Appears the truth hurts you.Fact is medicine kills more people every year than a chiropractor could ever imagine. And I don't want to be that kind of dr. or I would have gone to med not osteo school. If you want to read what your AMA says about chiro edu go to website: humblewellnessdotcom backslashchiropracticunderscoreeducationdotshtm The truth is the truth. Still holding my head high.
docdb1 2 years ago
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docdb1 2 years ago
Secondly, we know that Lumbar spine xrays cause a huge amount of radiation for something that you should be able to diagnose clinically. And what is this crap about subluxations, what research is there to show this. Studies have shown that nearly half the population, on MRI, have signs of disc bulge but are asymptomatic.
I would say that a full exam allows the chiropractor charge more.
karlitob1983 2 years ago
What bull. A chiropractor does not have the same qualifications as a medic. What is the point of doing a full neuro examination on every patient, or a lumbar xray (even if you have the right and qualification to read it - a radiologist is the only person qualified to review it)
It a patient does not present with uni or bilateral radiating pain to below the buttock crease then it is moot to perform a radiological examination.
karlitob1983 2 years ago
Huh? First of all, I personally do not take x-rays on every patient and secondly, radiologists read x-rays for pathologies, chiropractors look for both pathologies and structural problems. The point of doing an exam is to rule out things like infections, fractures, etc. FYI--some people go to the chiro before the m.d. with a problem. A good chiro will make sure it is a problem they can treat by doing an exam first. .
docdb1 2 years ago 2
Again, more bull. rule out infections and fractures. What crap. If you suspect an infection, then you do not have the abiiity to take bloods and send to the lab, nor have you the ability to precribe meds. PRICE regime is also you can administer. As for fractures. unless its glaringly obvious, I'm gonna take my chances with a radiologist ('who reads only pathologies - more crap) or an orthopod. You know real doctors.
karlitob1983 2 years ago
Now Karlitob1983--no one ever said radiologists ONLY read for pathologies Read what I said again above. Why is it so hard for people like you to grasp the concept that there are different types of doctors in the world. Look at the Chinese for instance, Check your facts before you speak.. Go to::humblewellness.combackslashchiropractic_education.shtm. A study by the AMA no less.
docdb1 2 years ago
radiologists read x-rays for pathologies, chiropractors look for both pathologies and structural problems - is what you said, thereby alluding that chiropractors read x rays better than qualifies radiologists who do nothing but read xrays. "Check my facts" about all the different 'types of doctors in world" like the chinese. What a ridiculous statement.
karlitob1983 2 years ago
Obviously you are uneducated and angry. I stand by my statements. Furthermore, you read into what I said above. Does the word interpretation mean anything to you?? Ridiculous is all you could come up with? As I said, go to the website I gave you about chiro ed put out by the AMA. Also take a look at what an osteo said below. If you don't have anything intelligent or informed to say, then go talk to someone who is as narrow minded as yourself. I am finished with this "ridiculous" conversation.
docdb1 2 years ago
Listen sir, you can't even type a coherent complete sentence. You are obviously a moron. Please leave and take your scam artist "health-care" with you. I suggest you go to china.
Come back when you have actually proven that chiropractic can cure something.
J3arc 2 years ago
you are a fool !
mg200442000 2 years ago
can chiropractic fix the levator scapulae syndrome problem???...or what kind of trearment should be done???
thebeachboy10 2 years ago
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unclejohn2007 2 years ago
like the sounds of popping and cracking.
jaeshim1 2 years ago 2
How much would a session usually cost?
fatimmortal 2 years ago
Depends on the clinic, your insurance, whether it's a PPO or HMO. Look on the back of your insurance card for your "SPECIALIST" or "REFERRED" copay.
You're looking at, usually.. $30
SkanRashke 2 years ago
What nomisil says is not true. You don't have to have pain to have a problem. For instance, high blood pressure is a silent disease. The same with your spine. You won't always have pain. Only a chiropractic exam can tell you if you have a problem.
docdb1 2 years ago
Wait for it, 6:07. Good afternoon! HAAHAHAH. This dude does a great job on here.
jimmy1time 2 years ago 2
She looks kinda cool
VicariousReality7 2 years ago 2
Dear Dr Echols, do you know spinal mouse? i have made these test and the trainer said that there are some "mistakes" but - he didn t say what i can do to help my spine!! would it be possible to send the details by email? greetings from eureope!
dancingfire87 2 years ago
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granthill50 2 years ago
i went for a horrible headache, 2 twists of the neck and a TON of loud pops and it was instantly gone!! what a relief!!
roudy1689 2 years ago 4
What a *GREAT In Depth view of the outstanding Job~Care The Chiropractors* do! The most problem eradicating alternative health care approach~in every possible way...to a NEW healthy *YOU*! And yes I have Chiropractic treatments & I would Highly recommend it! Read the report from the WHO 2006 guidelines on Chiropractic. :O)
caz99 2 years ago
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My dad is a chiropracter he went to Palmer. where did you go, online? Now he's roll'in sweat in da dough! You're a JOKE! Go to my dads practice and actually learn somthing! No really, DO IT!!!
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pimpdoctor2008 2 years ago
I have a question i saw another one of his videos it said take your kids to the chirapractor for check ups or something. Im 15 and never been to a chirpractor. Should i go even though i have no problems?
izod12345678 2 years ago
NO WAY! A waste of time and money AT BEST! Dangerous at worst!!
Scottrchrdsn 2 years ago
So your saying i shouldnt go rite
izod12345678 2 years ago
rite
Scottrchrdsn 2 years ago
Okay then
izod12345678 2 years ago 2
"I f any of you haters want to know what scientific literature says about chiropractors go to my channel DrJDavid. Before you try to comment be aware that you may need more than two neurons firing at the same time to comprehend the message.I challenge ANY to defy the truth. Bring it on Mr. P.T.M.D. whatever education you think you have. I 'll eat you guys for lunch. Anybody can have an opinion. Treating opinions as facts is ridiculous. Come check it out.....I DARE YOU"
DrJDavid 2 years ago
Hey Dr. Isn't it amazing how these people make it their mission to bash us chiropractors? Glad to see you are here helping to educate the misled public about health. Keep up the good work!
docdb1 2 years ago
Dont worry docdb1, bjs8145 is a total SHE-TROLL. He is no doctor. He told me he was an obstetritian on another video, now he's an osteopath. He also said the heart can function without nerves after a transplant. Total tool and I made him my Bee-atch!!
9pt9 2 years ago
What a piece of work he is! You know if he is a real doctor he wouldn't be throwing such a hissy fit when I challenge him. Thanks for the info 9pt9.
docdb1 2 years ago
its not necessary to go to a chiropractor if you dont have any problems. just go to your regular doctor and ask for a physical.
nomisil 2 years ago 2
yeah u helped me [thanks]
but what do they do 2 you when you go cuz im kinda nervous!
spongebob341 2 years ago
just do x rays then show u wat they will work on then after that start ur ajustment.
pimpdoctor2008 2 years ago
6:00
BBBnickBBB1 2 years ago
i have scoliosis and my back really really hurts..should i go to a chiropractor?
spongebob341 2 years ago 3
yes you should they will keep you in line i have it to and i got on a week,it feels so nice :]
pimpdoctor2008 2 years ago
but how much does it cost?
spongebob341 2 years ago
well it dependes on the doctors some are mine was 40 to start but then it whent down to like 15 cuzz i go so much if i wher u id just check out a few around your area then compare them. ~hope i helped u =]
pimpdoctor2008 2 years ago
how rough is chiropractic school compared to a university or med school
brutussteel 2 years ago
Chiropractors learn everything medical doctors learn minus drugs and surgery. Seven years of school total to become a chiropractor.
docdb1 2 years ago
Thats a lie and you know it.
Assuming you grant that the rigors of the 1st and 2nd year equate (which I dont), chiropractic students are still sitting around a classroom for their 3rd and 4th years when MD/DO students are out on 60-80 hr/week clerkship.
That is to say nothing of the 3-5 years of postgraduate residency's that MD/DO's do. Chiropractic has nothing like this.
Claims like this are just self delusion on the part of profession desperate to believe that they are "real" doctors. Sad..
bjs8145 2 years ago
To: bjs8145 You make me chuckle. Awfully worked up over something you apparently know nothing about. What is your education exactly? Ever attended medical or chiropractic school? Do you even know what the meaning of the word "doctor" is? It is TEACHER. Every day in my practice I have at least one patient tell me that I've helped them and in many cases, given them their life back because they can now function normally again. This is what lets me hold my head high regardless of your ignorance.
docdb1 2 years ago
I hold a degree on Osteopathic Medicine w/ residency training and board certification. I have over 10 years of practice under my belt and Ive done my share of teaching.
I find it interesting that you dont dare challenge the validity of the facts regarding chiropractic vs MD/DO training above... just content to pump up your inflated ego. Im sure reflexologists and magnetic healers get the same feedback from their victums... its called the placebo effect so keep your head held high big boy!
bjs8145 2 years ago
#1 Osteopaths sold out to be "elevated" to status of md's. so you are in essence an md wannabe
#2 An osteopathic "doctor" as you call yourself misdiagnosed my father and he died of cancer 10 years ago. (great education!)
#3 We are only given 500 characters on this thing or I would take the time to tell you about my education "big boy" but I don't find it necessary to defend myself to an md wannabe that most likely doesn't know what he's doing with his patients.
#4 I am a female "big doctor"
docdb1 2 years ago
Osteopathy was capable of evolving... unlike that 100+ years of chiropractic history that are unbridled by progress.
Makes me wonder about the throngs of chiropractors being our state legislature for prescribing rights every year... I guess your all just a bunch of wanna-be DO wanna-be's.
Female or not, you are a bitch...
bjs8145 2 years ago
your rambling on about random bullshit
shut up
jonlscott 2 years ago
You are the biggest douche on youtube. You arent a doctor of any kind. You have proven your gross stupidity. "the heart functions without ANY nerves". Is that what they teach osteopaths? No wonder nobody has ever heard of them.
9pt9 2 years ago
I just want to say that if it wasn't for Dr. Edna Lay DO I would have never walked as a child! She is the leader in cranial manipulation in babies. As a baby my parents took me to see her often for my hip dysplasia and thankfully due to her work, and a few DCs I have had a nice normal life, and have been able to ride horses during that time!
my0arabs 2 years ago
My back, and shoulders are chronically tense and knotted. I was also diagnosed with a mild scoliosis before I was a teenager. Should I look into chiropractic treatment?
KaterTater23 3 years ago 3
YES
BLAKKMAJIKK14 3 years ago 2
Chiro first, then see a masseur the same day. The combination of osteomanipulation and muscular manipulation can actually help correct the bad postural habits you've built up over the years and will help prevent pain in future.
-Number one cause of back pain in Americans is an underdeveloped abdomen. Crunches!
SkanRashke 3 years ago
A weak core is a real problem for low back pain. I would NOT recommend crunches due to the very real possibility to damage disc and the lumbar spine. Front planks, side planks, dead bug, and bird dog are all safe no compression way to build a strong core. Yes, sit ups and crunches are not really needy in most cases. Remember, Chiropractic is about a properly functioning nervous system and when you have a good nervous system you have a much greater chance to heal from any disease or condition.
freedum123 2 years ago
Bah! No wonder my back hurts :P Core excersizes are hard.. what you've suggested there, that's yoga? I'll give it a try because I've got horrible lower back pain(Mostly from being too tall in a world built for 5'8 people :( Bending over all the time = bad with a weak core!). I'll give your suggestions a try and hope for the best :)
SkanRashke 2 years ago
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NO!!
Scottrchrdsn 3 years ago
Would diffrent places like legs arms are sore
would it to do with the spine?
gunnipig1 3 years ago
the body is interconnected
"the kinetic chain"
the hip is the foundation of spine
the legs are connected to the hips
and the hips are connected to the spine the muscles and tendons interconnect them all
the same goes for the arms, elbows, wrist etc.
Energyium 3 years ago
i want him to adjust me
pimpdoctor2008 3 years ago 6
i went to one yesterday for my recent headache and neckpain.. glad they are gone now :D
s3110950 3 years ago
When i was 2 i feel out of a swing and landed on my head. I recently noticed my neck and upper (sometimes lower) back aches and hurts. I also have asthma (if thats significant). Should I do something about it?
LeftFootRocket 3 years ago
If you have pain in your neck or spine, a chiropractor can most likely alleviate the pain.
Why be in pain if you don't have to?
psychetruth 3 years ago
doesn't it build character?
jacobssandy 3 years ago
Only if you grow a beard
Raginmonky 3 years ago 4
i need to go like 1-2 times a week
pimpdoctor2008 3 years ago
my god that neck adjusment was scary.
Anas786 3 years ago
IT FEELS GREAT.
BLAKKMAJIKK14 3 years ago 5
i slept wrong and my neck hurts and i cant turn it :(
jovabo112 3 years ago